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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: mellowman on February 07, 2003, 05:00:27 PM
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what's up y'all? damn, this board has undergone a michael jackson facelift and nosejob since the last time i was here. i barely recognize any of the names here anymore. damn. i apologize if i'm posting in the wrong section. fuck it, who cares. i won't get audited by the IRS if i post in the wrong place. anyway, i just wanted to post my report for the first half of 2003. i've been and will be so busy the next 3 to 4 months i figured i better do my report today since i'm done working for the week. i've decided to post only twice a year on this board. unless the people on the board who are familiar with me don't want me here anymore. if so i'll gladly stop for good. I left this place with a bad taste in my mouth last time and really didn't want to come back ever again. i got called a hypocrite by a person on this board that i had had a great respect for, because i came on here telling you to go support positive rap albums by the roots and talib kweli. the reasoning was that since i'm a member of the aftermath team, i was a hypocrite for supporting positive rap music, when aftermath and especially dre were promoting negativity and the root of evil in rap music. you do know me motherfuckers so don't judge me. you don't know Dre, so don't judge him. sure some of the music we do may be negative, but thats the music. that isn't us as people. as people, and as a organization, i don't know of any label that's doing more positive things. dre and the aftermath family do a lot of things in the community that you never hear about. what do you do in the community? as a label we donated 1.2 million dollars to the 3 main foundations that helped families of the 9-11 victims. what did you do motherfuckers? we donated thousands of dollars to the foundation supporting jam master jays family. what did you do? as a label we do things the right way. we give all the artists and musicians proper credits, publishing credits, pay great contracts even if an artist never releases an album, etc. we ain't funding this label through criminal funds. fuck it, i could go on and on but whats the use. people will think what they want to think regardless. i post to the people who support and appreciate what we do. i don't give a fuck about the haters, the non-believers. i don't give a fuck about all the people on this board that are ungrateful, spoiled, unrealistic, closed minded, ignorant, and inmature . there are a lot of good people here, but there are also a lot of people who need to grow the fuck up and treat people with respect. if you don't believe me, or you hate me or you disagree with me, or you don't like what i like, or you don't like the music we do - fine. thats okay. but if your gonna comment, do it with respect. if your gonna criticize, do it with constructive criticism and in a positive way. if you don't got something good to say, don't say anything. i don't got a problem if you hate dre or 50 or em, fine. i wouldn't want everyone to like the same thing. thats what makes music the greatest form of artisitic expression ever. by all means disagree and offer varied opinions but do things in a respectful and positive way. treat people on this board and the artists that rap music represents with respect.
sorry for the rant but the last board visit was very sad and disappointing. i just wanted to say my peace. NOW, lets get to the real shit, the music. i'll continue this post with a reply to this thread. i'll do that in a few minutes. i gotta go work on an idea that just popped in my head.
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good to see you back
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alrighty then. lets get to the shit that really counts. first up, let me comment on 50 cent. the last time i posted i didn't mention 50. at the time i did not really agree with signing 50. we have enough beef against our label, without adding more by signing 50. i had heard of 50, but i hadn't really ever listen to much of his stuff. i'm bored to death with 98 percent of rap music anyway. i wasn't sold on 50 til i listened to some of his music. even then i still was kind of agaignst it. dre went through the process of why he signed 50 and the reasonings behind it. i was satisfied with his explanation. dre gushed about 50's charisma, his sing song style and his talent. 50 was an
unpolished diamond as he likes to call his young talent that he molds into superstars. dre wasn't even sold on 50 when em first brought it up. it wasn't til dre met with 50 the first time. dre said 50 was extremely inteligent and had a vision for what he wanted to do. Andre quickly realized that unlike his own Dr. Dre alter ego 50 cent was a real life "ghetto vietnam soldier". the brothers on
the street think so highly of 50 that dre knew that people from all corners and classes of the record buying public would love 50's music. my biggest concern was the we were putting 50 in front of rakim. i want so badly for Oh My God to get finished i can barely stand it. i respect rakim so so much i want his record to get out as soon as possilbe. i was also uneasy about Aftermath's future
direction. dre told me that rakim would be out by late spring or early summer 2003. he also promised me that he would keep a diversified mix of artists, ranging from innovative r and b to hard rap to conscious rap. he even told me he'd start to reexplore his long running idea of a black "ghetto metal" band (which i've been constantly chattering in his ear). so i was satified with the future of our increasingly powerful label. the money is gonna be there. i wanted to make sure the music was gonna be better than ever. dre wanted to get 50 cent out asap to capitalize on his enormous buzz. dre is incredibly conscious about his legacy( which is silly cause he could make shit music for 5 years and still be on the greatest producers ever). dre does not want to be remembered as the one who fucked up rakim's reputation and career by putting out a crappy album. dre wants to take his time until its good enough to go down in history as a classic album. i'll talk about rakim later.
i was sold on 50 cent when we finished up In Da Club. from there on i was extremely excited about the project.
it seems like a lot of people passionately hate 50 on this site. i am surpised but yet i'm not. i am really surprised to hear people complain about the album. it may have been a bit rushed. and no its not a classic album. dre said himself that he was really proud of the album, but that he was a bit overstaded when he called it a classic. however that may change. the only songs i would have left off were blood hound and like my style. other than that i am extrmemely proud and happy with the results. my favorite tracks were many men, in the club, patiently waiting, if i can't and the pre gunshot to the mouth 50 track life's on the line. i thought dre was on fire on his 4 tracks. heat
was probably the weakest but even that was straight "heat". but that instrumental had been sitting
around forever. dre never found a song or artist to attach that to beat until 50. but anyone who complains about dre's production on grodt is crazy. but then again, i am biased cause i worked on a lot of the tracks on the album. i thought 50 came through and did what dre and em knew he could do. its amazing how great the album turned out all things considered. first of all it was really
rushed by Dre standards. plus all of the patchwork of the album makes the final mix really satisfying. a lot of the songs were recorded in 3 different studios. 50 and dre were hardly in the studio together. shit got mailed and fedex'ed back and forth so much i think we got frequent flyer discounts forever. dre would sent 50 an instrumental, 50 would put vocals on it and send it back.
dre would mix it, send it back with recommendations and sent it back. some songs were sent back and forth a dozen times til dre was happy with it and did his final mix of his satisfactory vision of the songs.
if you hate 50 or hate the album, that's great cause it don't matter. a lot of cats from the hardest of the hard and softest of the soft, black and white, love and respect 50 and will love the album. today steve told us that first week (or 5 days in this case) sales will be close to 700,000 copies. so hate 50 and his album if you want but you can't stop the unstoppable. a lot of you have a pre conceived notion of something before you listen. for instance if you hate 50 you're gonna go in with a negative opinion of it already. because you're coming in with a close mind you've already made up your mind. or you listen to an album on a computer and pass judgements on it. if you don't listen to it the way a record is suppose to be heard don't pass judgement. if you keep an open mind and still don't like 50 or the album that's fine. just give it a fair chance. if you aren't going to don't listen to it. the fact is that i don't care if you like it or not. just give it a fair chance.
one more response will follow to give you an update of Aftermath's near future. c you then.
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Go on then Mellow.. ;D
Great kick to the 50-haters btw.. they come in all sizes & shapes on this board..
Tell us a bit more about Rakim maybe..
And Cube's plans/projects..
The Game & Joe Beast.. ??
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Damn, good to see you back Mellow. Thanks for the words so far.
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a lot of you probably accuse me of overhyping things when it comes to dre and aftermath. you may be right. but i am passionate about our music and am extremely proud and excited about how its doing. so i apologize if i get your hopes up to unrealistic levels. but if I didn't believe what us and Dre are doing is as good as anything out there, we might as well quit, burn all the tapes and cds we record the music on and switch jobs. a lot of you will complain about dre, about us. go ahead. so many people are spoiled rotten by dre that you aren't happy with anything he does anymore. a lot of knuckleheads think dre should be able to create a new sound every week. thats so fuckin dumb thinking its laughable. first of all there is only so much you can do with music. and most
importantly, dre is a innovator and a leader, not a follower like 99 percent of producers out there.
he will unleash a new sound when he's confident it will be good enough and creative enough that the 99 percent who are followers will start to try to recreate and copy the new dre sound. dre's upcoming revelation will not be new. nothing will ever be brand new in music ever again. dre is just going to mix, arrainge and create sounds and instruments in a way that has never been heard before- a Andre Mozart Young orchestral piece. like i mentioned before dre is always concerned about his legacy. Detox is going to be the last thing they remember dre with as an artist. he wants to drop music that people will remember forever. there is always a chance dre will play it safe and release Detox as a great final album thats nothing special. yes the instrumental tracks for In Da Club and If I Can't were made with Detox in mind. both those tracks are as good as anything dre's done the last few years. but in the end dre decided that 50 might as well have them, because Detox would be so much different. dre has changed his mind on Detox so many times he may change his mind back to something safer than the shit we are doing now. if he does play it safe, dre may disappoint you with a very dope album, thats great but not the mind bender you were hoping for. the last time dre played it safe was on truth hurts album. i sill like the released version, but the version i was thinking would be released was so much better. for some reason dre decided against using a lot of his own produced tracks for truth's album. if he would have released what i thought he was going to release only 5 songs would have stayed. so that may happen with Detox - but i doubt it ;D . cause the shit we've been doing lately for Detox is bonkers man. we got a great team back together. plus there will be some great new additions, including some really eclectic musicians. i really can't describe the sound. just think of a wall of sound being shaken by a cali earthquake. i don't know what else to say. i just find myself laughing at some of the stuff cause its so goofy. but the aggression of the pace combined with the crazy instrumentations and swirling arsenal of sounds makes for some funky
and crazy shit. plus Detox will include by far the best collection of mc's for any of his solo albums. so things are looking very interesting. but there is a long way to go. and since i have no idea what will make the album i have no idea what the end result will be. all i know is that if dre
plays it safe it will be a dope album. but if dre goes crazy with this helterskelter yet incredibly funky and musical sound we're doing now - you will literally be blown away. so i hope i don't get your hopes up too much. but if things end up the way i think they will watch out. right now i don't know our final destination, but i am enjoying the journey more than anything i've ever done. plus
plans are back on for a 5.1 version of Detox on sacd, and eventually dvd-audio. if that happens you better get lined up for that musical expreience. if you like rock music i'd get dvd-audio right now and enjoy metallica's black album, stp's core and linkin park's reanimation. dre can't wait to play with the surround sound. i guarantee that dre will mix it better than anyone. Detox will be the
first 5.1 release, but eventually dre hopes to remix and release the entire Aftermath catalogue.
Detox may disappoint, but it might, just might be the most incredible thing you've ever heard. but don't get your hopes up on my account.
and don't give up on Rakim's Oh My God. those who stay patient and keep the faith will be rewarded. dre has about 10 tracks he thinks are good enough to make the final cut. if the rest of the tracks equal these 10 you will have a classic. even if they don't your still gonna be very very happy.i wish i had better answers for you. but i don't. even if i did i couldn't tell you anyway. I am 100 percent certain Oh My God will be released this year and it will be as good as you think it will be.
outside of rakim and detox, the other 2 releases for the year are brooklyn's really musical album and ice cube's return. cube's album is in its early stages but dre has teamed up with cream of the crop producers to work with cube and make a great album for later this year. dre is ep'in brooklyn's album and will make the decisions of the final track lsiting but only 1 or 2 songs will be dre's. so thats a positive sign. dre has a lot of great young and veteran producers signed on. i think this will lead to a quicker release of a good number of album's. but i'll believe that when i see it. dre has 4 other young and talented artists right now that will be out in 2004 and 2005. right now the focus is on making Oh My God and DETOX the musical atomic bombs you all are fiending for. please believe that Dre and the entire Aftermath are giving our heart and soul to these projects and everything else we do. i just hope you appreciate the incredible amount of work we do. and those of you who are underestimating or being ridiculously critical of dre, remember your words when Dre detaches your head from your neck with Detox. someday when dre is not making music anymore, maybe you'll appreciate the genius of arguably the most influential, creative, consistent and innovative producer of all time. but i won't get my hopes up.
thats it till i come back the second half of next year. right now i need to get home so i can take my queen out for a beautiful evening. i've been logging so many hours in the studio she might not remember what i look like. but how can you not keep working, when the micheal jordan of music is working 72 straight hours in the studio, when he doesn't have anything left to prove. there's a reason he's number one. his greatness cannot be acheived without making music his life and his passion. a big reason he's working so hard is for you - all of you. just remember that next time you criticize.
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real quick, The Game is a big talent. hopefully you'll hear from him on detox. you should hear all of our new artists in some form or another soon. however, kids like the game are a ways off so dre don't want to put them in your ears too quickly cause you're gonna have to wait for a while. joe beast is melvin's project. yes mel is alive and kicking. but his future is still up in the air. we love mel and will support him as he goes through some things. but hes fine. we want to make sure he's fine as a person first before anything else. i'm confident he will be. melvin's situation is personal. if he wants to address it he will on his own accord. but until he does just leave him alone. the music he's doing is as good as ever so no worries there. damn, i gotta go. thanks for all your support. we appreciate it more than you know. peace. oh yeah props to the guys at dubcnn. keep it up and dre may do something with ya down the line. but don't get your hopes up ;)
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Thanks for the dope infos
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Thanks for the news, mellow ;D
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Don't get upset and shit with the peeps that question Dre and basically talk shit, cause they all love the music and they expect big things from Aftermath cause all the talent that's there. We just gotta have discussion about this till then.
I really don't care how long it takes for Oh My God and Detox as long as the finished products are what we expect. I got enough dope music to listen to till then.
Also, I'm too tired to read all 3 statement there (it's 2:30am) so if you mentioned this forgive me, but, it's bullshit that Dre rejected Premo's beat for Ra's album right? They are just trying to suprise the audience and create mystery for the album, right?
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wooo thanks mellow always a pleasure.. glad to hear mel-man isn't out of the picture. theres been a few whispers here and there.
you might not recog peoples names atm because we've been playing a silly game... lol
Overseer
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Thanks For All The Info & Comments. Like C2Knuckles Said, I Dont Think People Here Hate Dre & Aftermath Its Just Discussions People Bring Up That Can Escalate...Other Than That Its Often Expectations Are Soooooooo High That Its Hard For People Not To Be Dissapointed!
Thanks Again Mellow, And The Fact You Know Of & Mentioned dubcnn Almost Made Me Fall Off My Chair! ;D Thanks!
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Thanks For All The Info & Comments. Like C2Knuckles Said, I Dont Think People Here Hate Dre & Aftermath Its Just Discussions People Bring Up That Can Escalate...Other Than That Its Often Expectations Are Soooooooo High That Its Hard For People Not To Be Dissapointed!
Thanks Again Mellow, And The Fact You Know Of & Mentioned dubcnn Almost Made Me Fall Off My Chair! ;D Thanks!
yeah lol same here!
again, gotta give it up for you for takin the time to hit us with all this info once more, its amazing. your posts are as informative as 25 mtv news reports about dre.. IM LOVIN IT!!!
oh yeah, about our names, like overseer said we're just playin a silly game so our names are a lil twisted!
Nima
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Yo, thanks for stoppin by again Mellowman, it always a pleasure to hear what you have to say.
-Suga Foot
Oh yeah and "what's the difference" was sampled too.
Charles Aznavour "La Boeme" ;D
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MellowMan it's always a pleasure reading your posts, but how about getting dre to release a Presents...The Aftermath 2, with him producing maybe 2 songs and it being a comp of all the aftermath artists and producers?
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good read
thanks mellowman
your post always build up anticipation - its just a shame that all the projects are so far off - and its a shame i wont be around to see any of your future posts
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i wish i had better answers for you. but i don't. even if i did i couldn't tell you anyway.
thats the problem with u lol.. u have to read between the lines to get the facts lol.. its all good tho :)
thanx for sharing your knowledge
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Always good to hear from the one & only mellowman. Props for keepin' us updated.
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Thanks For All The Info & Comments. Like C2Knuckles Said, I Dont Think People Here Hate Dre & Aftermath Its Just Discussions People Bring Up That Can Escalate...Other Than That Its Often Expectations Are Soooooooo High That Its Hard For People Not To Be Dissapointed!
Thanks Again Mellow, And The Fact You Know Of & Mentioned dubcnn Almost Made Me Fall Off My Chair! ;D Thanks!
yeah lol same here!
again, gotta give it up for you for takin the time to hit us with all this info once more, its amazing. your posts are as informative as 25 mtv news reports about dre.. IM LOVIN IT!!!
oh yeah, about our names, like overseer said we're just playin a silly game so our names are a lil twisted!
Nima
much love mellowman......thanks for all your post......did you know you got voted as best poster on dubcc?........just lettin you know......we appreciate you.....and your knowledge...especially me cause im a huge aftermath fan.......and i cant wait for the rakim album to drop.....i already know its gonna be a classic and we dont know anything about it....lol.....anyway keep on blessing the board man.....
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Yo, thanks for stoppin by again Mellowman, it always a pleasure to hear what you have to say.
-Suga Foot
Oh yeah and "what's the difference" was sampled too.
Charles Aznavour "La Boeme" ;D
No... I jus listened to La Boheme..
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dam man, I love reading the stuff you write. Dre is a dope producer, every body that likes rap music knows that and everybody who just any kind of music knows that. I'm glad to hear work is being done tho, don;t get me wrong I never had doubt that everybody at Aftermath/Shady works hard but to hear the stuff you are currently working on and focusing on is really great. I can't wait for Oh My God, Cant wait to cop 50's, Cant wait for Detox, I cant wait for everything you guys are currently working on. Keep ya heads up, keep going strong.
We all loveee the Aftermath Staff, the Aftermath Staff, the Aftermath Staff, We All loooooooooooooooove the Aftermath Staff, SO please give me a record deal!!!
lol, Peace Mellow. Thanks again buddy.
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mellow, don't waste posts by protecting dre from the haters...use that time instead to inform us on anything you possibly can...your first post probably took you 20 minutes to write, next time use that 20 minutes to inform us more, maybe to confirm rumors such as "dre rejecting primo beats"...if that's true i think dre lost his mind...anytime ra and primo hook up for ra's cd's, they are the best tracks on it...plus primo's beats lately, well i mean always are fire...the gangstarr track from 8 mile is probably in my top 3 favorite songs off the soundtrack...and skillz is the tightest hip-hop song of 2003 without a doubt...anyway, i'm making to much about this without really knowing what's going on...so let us know next time, peace.
ps. your second and third posts were dope, peace.
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dam man, I love reading the stuff you write. Dre is a dope producer, every body that likes rap music knows that and everybody who just any kind of music knows that. I'm glad to hear work is being done tho, don;t get me wrong I never had doubt that everybody at Aftermath/Shady works hard but to hear the stuff you are currently working on and focusing on is really great. I can't wait for Oh My God, Cant wait to cop 50's, Cant wait for Detox, I cant wait for everything you guys are currently working on. Keep ya heads up, keep going strong.
We all loveee the Aftermath Staff, the Aftermath Staff, the Aftermath Staff, We All loooooooooooooooove the Aftermath Staff, SO please give me a record deal!!!
lol, Peace Mellow. Thanks again buddy.
mellow keepin it real thanks
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Thanks for the info Mike...PeACe
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who's Mike?
peace.
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who's Mike?
peace.
A musician on the Aftermath staff...
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thanx 4 the news and read mellow-man.... and CharlieBrown thats not a bad idea about the aftermath 2 compalation
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they should have an aftermath 2 compilation...between all the talent on aftermath/shady, it could be real big...rakim, dr.dre, eminem, ice cube, 50 cent, d12, obie trice, truth hurts...
even if it wasn't that great, it couldn't be worse than the original, peace.
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Ummm,
I don't want to get this started again, but I guess I'll have to. What info are you all talking about. We didn't hear anything but old news and speculation. Dre might do this and Dre might do that. Rakim may drop sooner or later. Sorry, but ya'll actin like this guy tellin us all this dope shit. I don't know. I don't care about the posts, but ya'll jockin him like he really in the camp. Call me a hater and shit, but I could have just made the same post he did.
DreDay
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Whew.................... i know i am late with this response..but shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit i dont give a fuck, im a vet on this damn forum..................and mellowman............. thanks man.....that shit was better than sex............ wait..i wont go that far...but like with anybody....information is grand.....thanks like always.....to the haters..fuck'em.....if dre listened to haters...we would of never had the NWA sound....never had DOC, never had Chronic, or Doggystyle....never had 2001.....imagine if dre listened to the haters when he told them, he had this white boy of a rapper that is better than 90% of the rappers in the game.....??? plain in simple.........much thanks...
i wish dre would release more music that he produced, but i also wish i was rich, cant always get what we want out of life..........
and for those on the board, that think they know better, produce your own shit.....stop waitin on dre.......and if u cant produce your own shit...shut the fuck up...........get off the hateraide.....its sad...u know u hatin, and u keep doing it...., hey, live the life u want.....just keep the shit to yourself......
damn im straying away from the point...............
Mellowman................keep the funk alive...shit.......Detox us with a eargasm for the future.......
Still Representin' in Seattle.............
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Ummm,
I don't want to get this started again, but I guess I'll have to. What info are you all talking about. We didn't hear anything but old news and speculation. Dre might do this and Dre might do that. Rakim may drop sooner or later. Sorry, but ya'll actin like this guy tellin us all this dope shit. I don't know. I don't care about the posts, but ya'll jockin him like he really in the camp. Call me a hater and shit, but I could have just made the same post he did.
DreDay
you got 61 post thats why you dont know who this guy is.....read all his old post and you will see why he has the respect that he has.....peace......thats why he was voted best poster on dubcc
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Hey bitch! I been around longer than most all you muthafuckas. Just ask those people that remember dreday.com I started this westcoast website shit. Don't be tellin me I dont know whats goin on just cause I dont have 2,000 fuckin posts. Like I said, you want me to type 2 pages of speculation and shit we already know. I've read all Mellowmans shit and sorry, but he hasn't told me nothin that i don't know myself. Keep jockin his shit. Just wait till the next post when he is tellin us aout Dre mixin in 5.1. That info was known about a year ago. Like I said, I don't care if you like his posts, but don't be actin like he in the camp just cause he says so. Sorry, but for me to believe this shit, how bout tracklistings or guest from Rakims new album. No mention of burt Bacharach for Detox?
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DreDay...I fully agree with you.....mellowman has not told us shit that proves he is down w/ Aftermath........think about it ppl....any of us could write what he writes......all he does is speculate.....if he was really down he would tell us stuff before it happens and not just recite shit that you can read in any magazine or find on the web.....all he does is just make shit up......and also im sorry but would someone down w/ Aftermath be online somewhere posting in a forum....highly doubtful........shit he is a joke.......and if you reading this nigga make me eat my words and say something that is not just speculation.....all u ever say is stuff that is so general and broad that anyone could write that shit......give us some info that no one would know and not just speculation but cold hard facts...then ill take back my words.....but for real DreDay im with you......ppl on here are being brainwashed.......MellowMan you are just some punk ass nerd that has nothing better to do and just post lies on the net........oh yeah Fuck You and Have a Nice Day!!!
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^^^Ya'll are dumb^^^ he did give us facts...For example, he told us that 50 and Dre weren't in the studio together for the most part...How many of ya'll knew that?...Quit being haters, aiight?...PeACe
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Props asiatic! Finally someone that doesn't have their head up their ass...
Wut the fuck? Great, he said Dre and 50 weren't in the studio for the most part. You lame mark. Here's an exclusive for your ass. Snoop Dogg may be on Detox. How bout this one....... 50 cent is probably working with Rakim on a couple tracks for "Oh My GoD". This one will make you bust a nutt.... Dre may be working with other producers to create a totally new sound on Detox.
DreDay
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Props asiatic! Finally someone that doesn't have their head up their ass...
Wut the fuck? Great, he said Dre and 50 weren't in the studio for the most part. You lame mark. Here's an exclusive for your ass. Snoop Dogg may be on Detox. How bout this one....... 50 cent is probably working with Rakim on a couple tracks for "Oh My GoD". This one will make you bust a nutt.... Dre may be working with other producers to create a totally new sound on Detox.
DreDay
How bouth this one? No one cares...
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Shit! I'm im saying is ppl think...and open your minds.....All im saying is just consider the possibility that mellowman could be a fake and stop taking everything he says as gospel.........dre and 50 cent did not work together in the studio.....damn i saw that on ten sites before and in magazines....before mellowman said that and besides that is general...i want specific facts.......you know what i got it...if he is really down w/ AFtermath....why doesn't he get us some pics of the Aftermath staff....not a stock photo but something only he would have...or get us a pic of the studio and not something we can find online.....just something that is proof...........If he gets that then ill be a believer....but until then im wit DreDay and says that mellowman is a fucking liar!
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How many of you have even considered the possibility that mellowman is lying...? From the way you all talk you take everything he says as truth........if he is truly who he says he is....he has nothing to hide.......just ask him for some cold hard proof that we can see and not just read.........i remember his last post saying that Rakim would be out by now and now he dont know....he has never mentioned any of those new Aftermath artists that are profiled in the new source like brooklyn, antonio, joe beast.....or better yet......ask him to tell us the names of Dre's kids......if he is for real then tell us that......give us a pic of inside Dre's studios....tell him to give us something that we cannot find online....................another thing how come he knows so much about things but when it comes to Rakim's album all we know about it is the name and maybe some producers......now let me ask you if he knows so much how come we dont know more than that...Nigga is full of shit........and like i said earlier, dont say come back at me with words mellowman....come back to us with proof....dont say it...DO IT! Proof NiggA!!!!
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ignorant asses.. we been around this road a zillion times.
if u aint been down -here- since day one respect those who have.
u dont have to read it,
u dont have to believe it and no amount of shouting/crying/bitching/hating will change that. dude doesnt want to be known.
ps .. how u know he's a "nigga"? ;)
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I'm not saying to identify himself...all im saying give us some proof, not just rumor and speculation........he has been on this post for so long and i have seen all of mellowman's posts....and it is all rumor and speculation...he needs needs to ante up or any credibility that he has will all but gone soon!!! Tangible proof is all i ask!!!
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thanx 4 the news and read mellow-man.... and CharlieBrown thats not a bad idea about the aftermath 2 compalation
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I'm not saying to identify himself...all im saying give us some proof, not just rumor and speculation........he has been on this post for so long and i have seen all of mellowman's posts....and it is all rumor and speculation...he needs needs to ante up or any credibility that he has will all but gone soon!!! Tangible proof is all i ask!!!
the whole point is... there will be none. you just gotta learn accept this as "rumours from that mellowman guy". not everything in life is black and white.. this is grey... just leave it as such because you wont change it.
we've seen many things he's said come true. now some are known when he posts them, and some arent. one example would be about 'the wash' soundtrack being changed from what was originally promised (this was never raised anywhere else... now mellow has said some things about the "detox sound" and a ferw other things. he doe answer -some- questions he see's raised...
anyways.. my point is. just let him do what he wants, dont hate. he's not causing any trouble.
whether you think he's wacko or is dre/mel-man/mike or whoever doesnt matter a bit because he wont acknowledge any of those.
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here's my 2 cents on this:
I'm half skeptical about all of this. I'm sorry, but as was said above, he didn't drop much info that was brand new. 50 cent said in a couple of interviews he didn't spend much time in the studio with dre. And was kinda vague on current releases. However, I think the reason he is vague about this is because he does not want too much info to leak. he just wants there to be a buzz about Aftermath to get us to talk more about upcoming shit.
but Mellowman overhypes shit WAY too much. I don't blame him, he works for Dre, but I, along with the majority of this board, was expecting "The Wash" and Truth Hurts album to be classics by the way he was talking about them, however both greatly dissapointed me, and the majority of the board. How could Dre put these albums out, yet shelve albums by King T (which was a banging album), Eve, and The Last Emperor (Hittman, although a lot of peeps like him on this board, is nothing special IMO)? If you've never heard The Last Emperor, listen to some of his shit. Him spitting over Dre's beats would be crazy. Yet, instead we got 2 dissapointing albums that.
Rakim. Rakim. Oh My God, this album is the most over hyped album I've ever heard of. For me to be satisfied with "Oh My God", it's gotta b better than Doggystyle, AEOM, and The Chronic combined. If Dre and Rakim have been working on it for 2 years, it better be the best damn album I've ever heard. If it isn't on that kind of level, I will consider it very dissapointing. Rakim made a HUGE mistake signing to Aftermath. He should have signed with another label and got Dre to produce a couple tracks. I'm sorry, but if an abum takes 3 fuckin years to make, it better be the best album in music history; anything less is dissapointing.
I would not be shocked if Rakim was pushed back til 2004 and Detox til 2005 so Dre can produce 1-2 tracks for The Game and Brooklyn's albums, which will sell 300,000-400,000 max
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thanx 4 takin time out of your busy schedule to provide us wit some nfo mellowman, please come back and post as much as u can forget the dickheads, i enjoy all of your posts!
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ps .. how u know he's a "nigga"? ;)
He's not a nigga...He said he was a white musician of the Aftermath staff in one of his posts, which can only mean one thing...Mike...PeACe
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Yo Mellow it's Incognito, thanks for the info.
If he did say he is a white musician than it has to be Mike Elizondo, Dre's only bass player since Aftermath started. I doubt it's Storch cause he departed for a while.
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who cares who it is...just keep dropping shit for us, thanks, peace.
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Word people get so star struck...They are just people .who gives a fuck who they know and connections...Mellow drops good posts ,while most on here bitch about everything.Some of my good friends are connected with the Def Jux fam and Apathy of the Demigods..(who i have battled in a club...BTW i got destroyed) Its really not a big deal.