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Title: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: flatlinerz on May 29, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
I remember they had a group signed to Kurupt back in mid 90's called NME & Grench The Mean 1....they only ever released one track that I know of that was on the Tales from the Hood soundtrack easily one of the sickest joints I have heard use to bang it non stop back in the day.....anybody know any info on them?

this is the track and it was produce by Kurupt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYiBioewhVk
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Will_B on May 29, 2012, 11:19:24 PM
I read once on a MySpace profile that one of the dudes (I think Grench) had died in a car accident. It was his sisters page and she was paying tribute to him. She said Kurupt had produced a whole album for them, but the project got shelved because of the tragedy.

Wish I'd saved the link!
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: flatlinerz on May 29, 2012, 11:22:37 PM
damn man anyway you can find that link again? these dudes were fucking raw....that track had one of the sickest beats still can't believe kurupt produced that
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Sccit on May 29, 2012, 11:27:57 PM
kurupt coulda been a dope ass producer..he produced "first we pray", "never leave me alone", and the og "hos a houswife". all classics productions.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Will_B on May 30, 2012, 12:08:27 AM
kurupt coulda been a dope ass producer..he produced "first we pray", "never leave me alone", and the og "hos a houswife". all classics productions.

Yeah Kurupt got an ear for richer, more melodic sounds. Always put it down to his Philly roots.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Fraxxx on May 30, 2012, 12:12:04 AM

Wish I'd saved the link!

But then you deleted instead? ;)
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: bouli77 on May 30, 2012, 02:56:32 AM
kurupt coulda been a dope ass producer..he produced "first we pray", "never leave me alone", and the og "hos a houswife". all classics productions.

he also produced sooo much style. we dunno about these production credits though, with the ghostproducers, engineers and all that, but the songs he is credited for are indeed dope songs
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Sccit on May 30, 2012, 02:58:21 AM
kurupt coulda been a dope ass producer..he produced "first we pray", "never leave me alone", and the og "hos a houswife". all classics productions.

he also produced sooo much style. we dunno about these production credits though, with the ghostproducers, engineers and all that, but the songs he is credited for are indeed dope songs


yup...yet another classic kurupt production. coulda been as good, or better than daz behind the boards.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: flatlinerz on May 30, 2012, 06:59:20 AM
I can't find anything on google but saw a post on youtube that both of them are dead?
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on May 30, 2012, 07:48:41 AM
I remember they had a group signed to Kurupt back in mid 90's called NME & Grench The Mean 1....they only ever released one track that I know of that was on the Tales from the Hood soundtrack easily one of the sickest joints I have heard use to bang it non stop back in the day.....anybody know any info on them?

this is the track and it was produce by Kurupt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYiBioewhVk

dont think Daz was involved in that group tho, that was one of Gottis sideprojects


kurupt coulda been a dope ass producer..he produced "first we pray", "never leave me alone", and the og "hos a houswife". all classics productions.

we dunno about these production credits though, with the ghostproducers, engineers and all that,

exactly
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: HardWorker on June 01, 2012, 06:22:19 PM
believe it when i see it
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on June 01, 2012, 07:44:09 PM
Damn I really don't remember this.

Kurupt's production credits may look impressive but I never believed for a second that he really produced those songs. For 1, you notice how he just mysteriously NEVER produced a song again? And 2nd, Snoop already confirmed Suge used to have his artist jack no-name producers for their beats and take the credit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzYwv1ixNHk
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on June 02, 2012, 12:14:41 AM
Oh shit after listening to this song...I think we found Kurupt's early ghostwriters.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Sccit on June 02, 2012, 01:24:23 AM
Damn I really don't remember this.

Kurupt's production credits may look impressive but I never believed for a second that he really produced those songs. For 1, you notice how he just mysteriously NEVER produced a song again? And 2nd, Snoop already confirmed Suge used to have his artist jack no-name producers for their beats and take the credit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzYwv1ixNHk

We can speculate all day, but when it comes down to it, kurupt is credited and has never been called out for jackin bears, so that's all we can really go by
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on June 02, 2012, 01:57:17 AM
kurupt coulda been a dope ass producer..he produced "first we pray", "never leave me alone", and the og "hos a houswife". all classics productions.

Forgot Kurupt produced "First We Pray" and "Never Leave Me Alone" for Nate.  Those joints are certified classics.  But I'm not feeling this song on the origional post for the thread, and "So Much Style" was my least favorite track on Dogg Food.  He's no Daz that's for sure
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Russell Bell on June 02, 2012, 02:03:36 AM
kurupt coulda been a dope ass producer..he produced "first we pray", "never leave me alone", and the og "hos a houswife". all classics productions.

Forgot Kurupt produced "First We Pray" and "Never Leave Me Alone" for Nate.  Those joints are certified classics.  But I'm not feeling this song on the origional post for the thread, and "So Much Style" was my least favorite track on Dogg Food.  He's no Daz that's for sure

Least favorite really?
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on June 02, 2012, 02:09:34 AM
kurupt coulda been a dope ass producer..he produced "first we pray", "never leave me alone", and the og "hos a houswife". all classics productions.

Forgot Kurupt produced "First We Pray" and "Never Leave Me Alone" for Nate.  Those joints are certified classics.  But I'm not feeling this song on the origional post for the thread, and "So Much Style" was my least favorite track on Dogg Food.  He's no Daz that's for sure

Least favorite really?

yeah really
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: arubiano83 on June 02, 2012, 07:42:01 AM
didnt he produce tattoo tears for Pac?
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: bouli77 on June 02, 2012, 07:51:48 AM
kurupt coulda been a dope ass producer..he produced "first we pray", "never leave me alone", and the og "hos a houswife". all classics productions.

Forgot Kurupt produced "First We Pray" and "Never Leave Me Alone" for Nate.  Those joints are certified classics.  But I'm not feeling this song on the origional post for the thread, and "So Much Style" was my least favorite track on Dogg Food.  He's no Daz that's for sure

Least favorite really?

yeah really

same here, never really cared for soo much style.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Will_B on June 02, 2012, 08:39:13 AM
didnt he produce tattoo tears for Pac?

Yes. I believe so.



And 'This Life I lead' with Jonny J
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: MarshColin on June 02, 2012, 10:25:51 AM
That unreleased song by Kurupt called 40'z & Bud is by Grench & Kurupt. NME gets shouted out on the intro.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Will_B on June 02, 2012, 11:10:33 AM
Anyone got this?

http://www.discogs.com/Grench-The-Saturday/release/1090289

Production by Overdose on there too 8)
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Sccit on June 02, 2012, 01:05:20 PM
i love this trac:

http://www.youtube.com/v/_XCMqfFcwZ4
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: bouli77 on June 02, 2012, 02:03:55 PM
And 'This Life I lead' with Jonny J

are you talking about the Dogg Pound / Pac / Gonzoe / Nuttso cut ?? If so, although i read somewhere that Kurupt & Johnny J had produced it, SHorty B. claims he produced it with Daz. but i believe there are more than one song with this name.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on June 02, 2012, 03:50:39 PM
And 'This Life I lead' with Jonny J

are you talking about the Dogg Pound / Pac / Gonzoe / Nuttso cut ?? If so, although i read somewhere that Kurupt & Johnny J had produced it, SHorty B. claims he produced it with Daz. but i believe there are more than one song with this name.

yea probably


Anyone got this?

http://www.discogs.com/Grench-The-Saturday/release/1090289

Production by Overdose on there too 8)

i have it, but i wont upload it for you, cuz u suck
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on June 05, 2012, 06:08:56 PM
Damn I really don't remember this.

Kurupt's production credits may look impressive but I never believed for a second that he really produced those songs. For 1, you notice how he just mysteriously NEVER produced a song again? And 2nd, Snoop already confirmed Suge used to have his artist jack no-name producers for their beats and take the credit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzYwv1ixNHk

yea exactly, hes rapped on maybe, like what? - 3500 (?) songs in his lifetime, and only like 8 or 9 of em were credited to him as a producer, and they all came out during the saem period of time. i call bullshit on that one as well, he has never been a musician or beatmaker. he couldve had "input" in a song-construction, hence being a "producer" in that way though. but if i recall, Daz said somethin about this too, during the DPG-beef. but Kurupt recieved credit as the "producer" for some death row-tracks somehow. and the song "never leave me alone" (assumably prod by kurupt) for nates album, tahts kinda funny - cuz if u think about it,  "these days"  was credited to Nate Dogg as a producer, while it was produced by Dj Quik or Teddy Riley in reality. so u do the math. Death Row had alot of errors in their credits, stemming back to the "doggystyle"-days when Daz was left out
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Mak_Corleone on June 05, 2012, 08:05:34 PM
These Days was produced by: Daz & Teddy Riley. Didn't Quik mention this? Also, Just Another Day was produced by Nate Dogg
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: bouli77 on June 06, 2012, 12:59:17 AM
These Days was produced by: Daz & Teddy Riley. Didn't Quik mention this? Also, Just Another Day was produced by Nate Dogg

nah there are three conflicting views on these days 1) the official album credit : produced by Nate Dogg 2) what DJ Quik said in an interview (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/interviews/id.1691/title.dj-quik-against-all-odds) : produced by Teddy and mixed by Quik 3) Soopafly said in some topic on dubcc : produced by him & Daz.

Nate Dogg is also credited for producing Who's Playing Games on his album, and other songs I think like It's Goin Down Tonight....

but yeah as Mike said, the credit business in Death Row was shady, musicians were often left out, we didn't really know who did what
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Enigma on June 06, 2012, 01:49:01 AM
I noticed nobody mentioned "Tattoo Tearz."

2Pac at the end of the song says "Kurupt dropped the beat, we dropped the shit" - that track was another gem. I firmly believe Kurupt was producing at one point as I've read an interview with Organized Noize where they state Kurupt had a hand in some of the beats they did for him but Kurupt insisted they get all the credit.

Also, why would 2Pac say "Kurupt dropped the beat...." on the track if Kurupt didn't do the beat? That's not a case of Death Row doing janky shit in the credits, that's the artist himself shouting out the producer as they often did.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Will_B on June 06, 2012, 01:51:23 AM
If Death Row were a regular music label those tracks would probaly say something like 'Written and Arranged by Nate , music by whoever' - I think that's why Nate would get a production credit. If he had the full song written and told whoever how to put music to his words.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Sccit on June 06, 2012, 10:45:11 AM
I noticed nobody mentioned "Tattoo Tearz."

2Pac at the end of the song says "Kurupt dropped the beat, we dropped the shit" - that track was another gem. I firmly believe Kurupt was producing at one point as I've read an interview with Organized Noize where they state Kurupt had a hand in some of the beats they did for him but Kurupt insisted they get all the credit.

Also, why would 2Pac say "Kurupt dropped the beat...." on the track if Kurupt didn't do the beat? That's not a case of Death Row doing janky shit in the credits, that's the artist himself shouting out the producer as they often did.



Yea... Some of these cats go overboard with the conspiracy theories. Kurupt was credited as producer on albums that dropped on labels other than death row as well.
Title: Re: what happened to Kurupt and Daz old group from the 90's?
Post by: Will_B on June 06, 2012, 10:53:23 AM
I noticed nobody mentioned "Tattoo Tearz."

2Pac at the end of the song says "Kurupt dropped the beat, we dropped the shit" - that track was another gem. I firmly believe Kurupt was producing at one point as I've read an interview with Organized Noize where they state Kurupt had a hand in some of the beats they did for him but Kurupt insisted they get all the credit.

Also, why would 2Pac say "Kurupt dropped the beat...." on the track if Kurupt didn't do the beat? That's not a case of Death Row doing janky shit in the credits, that's the artist himself shouting out the producer as they often did.



Yea... Some of these cats go overboard with the conspiracy theories. Kurupt was credited as producer on albums that dropped on labels other than death row as well.

If these 'armchair' experts ever got a chance in a studio, and got involved in taking the lead over a making a track....because believe, they know all about rap, whats hot, and whatnot....u think they wouldn't want a producer credit (without ever picking up an instrument, or writing a lyric)?