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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Chamillitary Click on June 04, 2012, 07:32:42 PM
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I always knew there were plenty of Hip Hop fans that didn't fuck with their music. But it seems the industry is just forming up against them.
You had this diss by Pusha T & then people like Kid Cudi coming out the blue saying "Fuck those niggas". GOOD Music doesn't fuck with them. Wayne & Jay aren't cool. Then just yesterday, Peter Rosenberg said Nicki's song was "Wack as fuck" & YM decided not to perform at Summer Jam. Funk Flex came out & said he doesn't fuck with their music & won't play that fake shit on the radio anymore.
I mean, Wayne, Drake & Nicki still have strong fanbases, who will probably ride & die to the point they'll remain relevant, but I haven't seen such animosity towards big name guys in the industry since like 50 & Ja lol.
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The comparison to 50 and G Unit is on point, over saturation is a killer. Nickis a pop artist now so I don't see the hip hop scene affecting her as much as the others. I guess we'll know when Waynes next EP comes out. Drake needs to stay in his lane though, noone believes the toughy guy, catch a body act.
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You cant have a decreasing value of product and an increasing number of sales forever.
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let's hope so, but for it to happen non hip hop fans need to give up on Wayne and Drake
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let's hope so, but for it to happen non hip hop fans need to give up on Wayne and Drake
I think if they get shitted on hard enough by enough people they'd be forced to respond. Then it's obvious Wayne & Drake can't do shit in a battle. Nicki Minaj would probably make the best diss track out of that camp lmao.
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let's hope so, but for it to happen non hip hop fans need to give up on Wayne and Drake
I think if they get shitted on hard enough by enough people they'd be forced to respond. Then it's obvious Wayne & Drake can't do shit in a battle. Nicki Minaj would probably make the best diss track out of that camp lmao.
LOL I liked her style when I first heard her in a cypher with Budden and I bet you're right regarding a diss track from one of them.
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let's hope so, but for it to happen non hip hop fans need to give up on Wayne and Drake
I think if they get shitted on hard enough by enough people they'd be forced to respond. Then it's obvious Wayne & Drake can't do shit in a battle. Nicki Minaj would probably make the best diss track out of that camp lmao.
LOL I liked her style when I first heard her in a cypher with Budden and I bet you're right regarding a diss track from one of them.
Yeah, I fucked with that verse lol.
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that's actually a good question... obviously it's getting played out and their run is coming to an end. wonder what'll be the next big phase in hip hop. mixtape artists are having a nice buzz (K.R.I.T., Lamar, Curren$y, Dom Kennedy) and it seems like it's the route to choose if you wanna get respect these days. but they don't have the mainstream appeal YMCMB has and they'll never do but then again mainstream exposure isn't all that anymore as artists rely mostly on touring. i think we've reached an important turning point in hip hop.
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They need to find/make the next Drake or Nicki if they wanna stay on top.
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Good riddance. Don't see it happening though. I don't really see the people that like Drake and Nikki (and new Wayne for that matter) really caring what Jay-Z, Cudi, etc say. With the whole 50/Ja thing I think those guys had a lot of the same fans, and when Eminem jumped in on it people just decided they were cooler. Right now in terms of mainstream success I don't really see someone on the same level as those three, and their fans seem more like the type that would cry over a rapper dissing them than jumping ship.
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Eh they'll still sell 5 times as much as whoever disses them. They're still running shit until the audience gets tired of their shtick.
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Eh they'll still sell 5 times as much as whoever disses them. They're still running shit until the audience gets tired of their shtick.
It's true. But mainstream Hip Hop fans are easily can be easily manipulated. It's all about what's "considered cool". So basically if everyone in Hip Hop declared it was "cool" for everybody to rap/sound a certain way, the current sound would go obsolete. It's why Jay-Z always adjusts to the sound that sells. Probably why Wayne dresses as close as he can to Tyler, The Creator & has gone from the "hardest nigga in New Orleans" to some wanna-be Tony Hawk.
Kinda like what happened to 50 Cent & Game. Their sounds just weren't "cool" anymore.
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Eh they'll still sell 5 times as much as whoever disses them. They're still running shit until the audience gets tired of their shtick.
It's true. But mainstream Hip Hop fans are easily can be easily manipulated. It's all about what's "considered cool". So basically if everyone in Hip Hop declared it was "cool" for everybody to rap/sound a certain way, the current sound would go obsolete. It's why Jay-Z always adjusts to the sound that sells. Probably why Wayne dresses as close as he can to Tyler, The Creator & has gone from the "hardest nigga in New Orleans" to some wanna-be Tony Hawk.
Kinda like what happened to 50 Cent & Game. Their sounds just weren't "cool" anymore.
Yeah but Kid Cudi and Pusha T aren't in a position to influence the hip hop audience. If both Jay-Z and Eminem came out and shitted on Young Money, then it might have an effect. But if anything it seems like most rappers are afraid to say anything about Lil Wayne and company for fear of losing their own fanbase. Even your boys Slaughterhouse end up sucking his dick whenever his name is brought up to them.
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flex fuckin apologised anyway because he has no backbone. YM have the pop audience, they are going nowhere. dont kid yourself guys. just cause a few old heads and rival rappers dont like them means nothing.
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yeah its pretty fucked up actually..
Now when they really are the biggest in hip-hop and adding to the family with busta, bow and limp bizkit I guess people just gotta hate when people are the most succesful.
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You cant have a decreasing value of product and an increasing number of sales forever.
lol.
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YM have the pop audience, they are going nowhere. dont kid yourself guys. just cause a few old heads and rival rappers dont like them means nothing.
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If only the opening post were true. If this were the good old days then DJ's like Funk Flex and Tony Touch could dictate what was hott. But now it's 16 year old ghetto girls who get music free on their telephone dictating what is hott, so Cash Money is here to stay.
Hip-Hop was brutally assaulted on Sept. 7th, 1996. It spent many years suffering until it finally reached it's ultimate demise in late 2006, with the release of Nas Hip-Hop Is Dead album.
The game has now been taken over by the Shaytan, and the Shaytan has propped up Young Money/Cash Money to deceive the people into following something with Zero intrinsic value and benefit. People are left at the end of the day with no meaning and no substance.
Such is the state of hip-hop.
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Your a fucking idiot, in this last month we've had Ab Soul, Big KRIT, Killer Mike and Curren$y all drop dope albums with substance, there's more dope music being released than I havetime to fully absorb, you barely even need to scratch the surface to find the dope shit. Hip hop is more alive than ever, even your hero NAS is saying "Life Is Good".
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Your a fucking idiot, in this last month we've had Ab Soul, Big KRIT, Killer Mike and Curren$y all drop dope albums with substance, there's more dope music being released than I havetime to fully absorb, you barely even need to scratch the surface to find the dope shit. Hip hop is more alive than ever, even your hero NAS is saying "Life Is Good".
not sure about Killer Mike being a dope album but yes he is a complete idiot when it comes to his hip hop posts
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Your a fucking idiot, in this last month we've had Ab Soul, Big KRIT, Killer Mike and Curren$y all drop dope albums with substance, there's more dope music being released than I havetime to fully absorb, you barely even need to scratch the surface to find the dope shit. Hip hop is more alive than ever, even your hero NAS is saying "Life Is Good".
I know most of the board is illiterate. But if you ever do decide to take up the English language you will come to learn about two words. "Symbolism" and "hyperbole". I know it's above your level at the moment so I don't want to bore you.
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Your a fucking idiot, in this last month we've had Ab Soul, Big KRIT, Killer Mike and Curren$y all drop dope albums with substance, there's more dope music being released than I havetime to fully absorb, you barely even need to scratch the surface to find the dope shit. Hip hop is more alive than ever, even your hero NAS is saying "Life Is Good".
I know most of the board is illiterate. But if you ever do decide to take up the English language you will come to learn about two words. "Symbolism" and "hyperbole". I know it's above your level at the moment so I don't want to bore you.
The reason people hate on you so much is because you're so opinionated and close minded. Try not being the most biased poster on this forum and actually looking at things objectively and you wouldn't have to defend yourself all the time.
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Your a fucking idiot, in this last month we've had Ab Soul, Big KRIT, Killer Mike and Curren$y all drop dope albums with substance, there's more dope music being released than I havetime to fully absorb, you barely even need to scratch the surface to find the dope shit. Hip hop is more alive than ever, even your hero NAS is saying "Life Is Good".
I know most of the board is illiterate. But if you ever do decide to take up the English language you will come to learn about two words. "Symbolism" and "hyperbole". I know it's above your level at the moment so I don't want to bore you.
Lol it's easy to tell you aint exaggerating shit, you genuinely believe what you say and you took the symbolism of "Hip Hop Is Dead" as 100% fact, for someone who believes he is so worldy your ignorance is astounding.
(http://allhiphop.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/jay-z-made-in-america-press-conference.jpg?w=505)
See the symbolism in this pic? That's the rest of the board on the left....
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Your a fucking idiot, in this last month we've had Ab Soul, Big KRIT, Killer Mike and Curren$y all drop dope albums with substance, there's more dope music being released than I havetime to fully absorb, you barely even need to scratch the surface to find the dope shit. Hip hop is more alive than ever, even your hero NAS is saying "Life Is Good".
I know most of the board is illiterate. But if you ever do decide to take up the English language you will come to learn about two words. "Symbolism" and "hyperbole". I know it's above your level at the moment so I don't want to bore you.
you really need to stop acting like youre some sort of scholar or intellectual, youre really not that smart
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Hip-Hop was brutally assaulted on Sept. 7th, 1996. It spent many years suffering until it finally reached it's ultimate demise in late 2006, with the release of Nas Hip-Hop Is Dead album.
And was immediately revived by the KRS-One and Marley Marl Hip Hop Lives album. Brian however, being ignorant of all things hip hop, failed to be aware of this until early 2012 and ended up missing out on 6 years of music.
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Your a fucking idiot, in this last month we've had Ab Soul, Big KRIT, Killer Mike and Curren$y all drop dope albums with substance, there's more dope music being released than I havetime to fully absorb, you barely even need to scratch the surface to find the dope shit. Hip hop is more alive than ever, even your hero NAS is saying "Life Is Good".
I know most of the board is illiterate. But if you ever do decide to take up the English language you will come to learn about two words. "Symbolism" and "hyperbole". I know it's above your level at the moment so I don't want to bore you.
you really need to stop acting like youre some sort of scholar or intellectual, youre really not that smart
He's a troll. Straight up. His act got old.
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Hip-Hop was brutally assaulted on Sept. 7th, 1996. It spent many years suffering until it finally reached it's ultimate demise in late 2006, with the release of Nas Hip-Hop Is Dead album.
And was immediately revived by the KRS-One and Marley Marl Hip Hop Lives album. Brian however, being ignorant of all things hip hop, failed to be aware of this until early 2012 and ended up missing out on 6 years of music.
lmao
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And was immediately revived by the KRS-One and Marley Marl Hip Hop Lives album. Brian however, being ignorant of all things hip hop, failed to be aware of this until early 2012 and ended up missing out on 6 years of music.
KRS Hip-Hop Lives effort with Marley Marl was basically saying that hip-hop can never die. Because it lives in all of us who love the culture. Anybody who's held a spray can and drawn graffiti or spoken from their heart in a freestyle, I mean these elements are universal and will be around forever. Especially our beloved pioneers like KRS, hip-hop is in their heart and in the fabric of their being and they will continue to pass it on to the next generation of people like me, and I will pass it down to my son and so on. So on that level hip-hop lives.
However, the context in which Nas was speaking was mainstream, and also on the growth of hip-hop. Nas was trying to shock people and make them wake up. That the game had taken a wrong turn and it's essence had been lost. We all may lose ourselves at times in our lives. We may still be breathing, walking and talking but our spirit gets lost and we forget who we are. Nas was trying to remind us of that in the most shocking way by declaring hip-hop dead. And he was right on!
....It must be sad for you illiterate kids at the forum to pass by great art and really miss the beauty and depth of it all.
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KRS Hip-Hop Lives effort with Marley Marl was basically saying that hip-hop can never die. Because it lives in all of us who love the culture. Anybody who's held a spray can and drawn graffiti or spoken from their heart in a freestyle, I mean these elements are universal and will be around forever. Especially our beloved pioneers like KRS, hip-hop is in their heart and in the fabric of their being and they will continue to pass it on to the next generation of people like me, and I will pass it down to my son and so on. So on that level hip-hop lives.
However, the context in which Nas was speaking was mainstream, and also on the growth of hip-hop. Nas was trying to shock people and make them wake up. That the game had taken a wrong turn and it's essence had been lost.
You realize 99% of the music released isn't mainstream? You've cut yourself off from new hip hop, meaning you have no clue what is going on in the culture. You're not in a position to speak on it.
....It must be sad for you illiterate kids at the forum to pass by great art and really miss the beauty and depth of it all.
One of your most ironic posts over, considering you listen to the least music out of anyone here. This is coming from the guy who just heard for the first time a classic 80s Eric B and Rakim album a month ago. Someone in your position should be acting humble and trying to soak up knowledge from others, not trying to lord your limited knowledge over those of us who have listened to more music than you.