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Title: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: King Of The Greater Los Angeles Area on July 16, 2012, 08:33:19 PM
discuss if you must. i already know
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 16, 2012, 08:59:50 PM
well it depends on what you prefer

long term success vs short term


i'll take the Bill Russell Celtics over any Lakers team
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: BabyBird on July 16, 2012, 09:47:31 PM
dwhite howard and Andrew Bynum , pfft
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 16, 2012, 11:14:08 PM
I'd agree. Best duo ever.
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 17, 2012, 02:52:48 PM
we gotta wait till kobe retires to make this assessment. kareem>shaq, but when kobe retires, he will be in GOAT discussion (magic's already there). so this is a tough one.
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: King Of The Greater Los Angeles Area on July 17, 2012, 08:40:01 PM
Shaq Diesel >>> Kareem
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 17, 2012, 11:12:43 PM
I look at it from this view, the 1984 Lakers vs. the 2001 Lakers. I'd pick the 2001 Lakers every single time. Kareem over Shaq, but not by much. The key is that Kobe would own Magic. Magic was not a great defender, but Kobe was lock down. The 84 Lakers do stay in it though, as Kobe allows Magic to pass, which opens Kareem who has the advantage over Shaq. But on the other end Kareem may have an advantage over Shaq but he has to help Magic with Kobe and this opens the big man, or they just let Kobe score. I with Kobe and Shaq over Magic any day of the week, except the 2004 Lakers because I doubt Shaq and Kobe can even be on the same court without hurting each other.
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 18, 2012, 12:16:13 PM
Shaq Diesel >>> Kareem

LOL, good 1
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 18, 2012, 01:54:55 PM
Shaq Diesel >>> Kareem

LOL, good 1

Hakeem > both of them  8)
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 18, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Shaq Diesel >>> Kareem

LOL, good 1

Hakeem > both of them  8)


Kareem >>> Shaq & Hakeem. Shaq vs. Hakeem...now thats a good discussion.
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 18, 2012, 02:28:46 PM
Hakeem is the best ever son


dude wouldve school everyone playing soccer if the NBA didnt exist
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 18, 2012, 03:21:19 PM
Hakeem is the best ever son


dude wouldve school everyone playing soccer if the NBA didnt exist


kareem was still better
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 18, 2012, 03:29:12 PM
naw


kareem needed to play with two of the three greatest point guards ever to win all his titles.  not that Kareem wasn't a HOFer himself because he was but he couldn't do it alone



Hakeem meanwhile personally shit on Ewing and Shaq in the finals  8)
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 18, 2012, 03:30:46 PM
naw


kareem needed to play with two of the three greatest point guards ever to win all his titles.  not that Kareem wasn't a HOFer himself because he was but he couldn't do it alone



Hakeem meanwhile personally shit on Ewing and Shaq in the finals  8)


Hakeem won in a much easier era...he used 2 get shit on by Kareem in the 80s
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 18, 2012, 03:40:26 PM
except in the 85-86 playoffs, right?


lol the joke that year was that the Celtics were too good for the Lakers so the Lakers lost to Houston on purpose :D
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 18, 2012, 04:25:57 PM
except in the 85-86 playoffs, right?


lol the joke that year was that the Celtics were too good for the Lakers so the Lakers lost to Houston on purpose :D


lol.. the lucky bounce of doom. ralph sampson saved the day on that 1.
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 18, 2012, 04:26:19 PM
wait a minute, you know Kareem won an NBA title with the Bucks before joining the Lakers? Hell, he even won an MVP award without Magic or Oscar Robinson well being a Laker. Kareem is the best center in the history of the game, any level. College, Pro, Kareem was the best center ever.
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 18, 2012, 05:15:40 PM
wait a minute, you know Kareem won an NBA title with the Bucks before joining the Lakers? Hell, he even won an MVP award without Magic or Oscar Robinson well being a Laker. Kareem is the best center in the history of the game, any level. College, Pro, Kareem was the best center ever.

"he even won an MVP award" lmao  i never questioned his great status


i'm just saying all his rings came with Oscar or Magic and that Hakeem didn't have anyone that good to get his rings.  Hakeem had to lead his teams.  Magic lead the Showtime teams and we all know that.
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 18, 2012, 11:45:37 PM
wait a minute, you know Kareem won an NBA title with the Bucks before joining the Lakers? Hell, he even won an MVP award without Magic or Oscar Robinson well being a Laker. Kareem is the best center in the history of the game, any level. College, Pro, Kareem was the best center ever.

"he even won an MVP award" lmao  i never questioned his great status


i'm just saying all his rings came with Oscar or Magic and that Hakeem didn't have anyone that good to get his rings.  Hakeem had to lead his teams.  Magic lead the Showtime teams and we all know that.


Kareem led the Bucks more than Hakeem led the Rockets
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 19, 2012, 10:36:41 AM
no way.


btw peep this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h4CzVAQo8I
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 19, 2012, 02:16:44 PM
no way.


btw peep this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h4CzVAQo8I


Kareem '71 Championship Season: 31 ppg 16 rpg on 57% from the field >> Hakeem 94' Championship season: 27 ppg 12 rpg on 52% from the field
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 19, 2012, 07:14:15 PM
i'd reckon it was a lot easier to put them stats up in the early 70s than the mid 90s
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 19, 2012, 08:15:22 PM
Just let it be known, I have gone on record, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, greatest NBA center ever.

Statistics:
Games played – 1560 (2nd most in NBA history)
Field goal % – 55.9 (10th highest in NBA history)
Free throw % – 72.1
Three-point % – 5.6
Rebounds – 17,440 (3rd most in NBA history)
Rebounds per game – 11.2 (23rd highest in NBA history)
Assists – 5,660 (34th in NBA history)
Assist per game – 3.6
Steals – 1,160
Steals per game – 0.74
Blocks – 3,189 (3rd most in NBA history) (Note: blocks were not officially tabulated until the 1973–74 season)
Blocks per game – 2.57
Points per game – 24.6 (14th highest in NBA history)

Holds NBA career record for:
Most points (38,387)
Most minutes played (57,446)
Most field goals made (15,837)
Most field goals attempted (28,307)
Most All-Star selections (19)
Most All-Star games played (18)

40 point games
70 times in the regular season
55 with Milwaukee Bucks
15 with Los Angeles Lakers

http://www.youtube.com/v/njLKmDGwLGE?version=3&hl=en_US

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=olajuha01&p2=abdulka01

This is a link of Kareem and Hakeem head to head. Though Hakeem had better stats one on one, remember Hakeem was a young player and Kareem was 37 at the time of Hakeem's rookie year. Kareem during Hakeem's rookie year OWNED him. Overall they averaged 22 point against each other, which I'd say is a push. In the playoff's Hakeem had a 31 to 27 point advantage, though Kareem was 39 and Hakeem was entering his prime. If a very old Kareem gave Hakeem that much problems, imagine young Kareem. Young Kareem, coming off the great college basketball career ever, would dominate young Hakeem. Case close.
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 19, 2012, 08:18:05 PM
just imagine Kareem having to go against Hakeem in his prime  8)



btw Bill has 11 rings...he's the best ever. 
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 20, 2012, 04:12:08 AM
Hakeem could never stop the sky hook
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 20, 2012, 08:39:53 AM
Hakeem could never stop the sky hook

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r09WtKVwaMU


can'tfind Hakeem's but hakeem did it too
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: King Of The Greater Los Angeles Area on July 20, 2012, 11:11:35 AM
SHAQ is the best
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Sccit on July 20, 2012, 11:38:42 AM
Hakeem could never stop the sky hook

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r09WtKVwaMU


can'tfind Hakeem's but hakeem did it too

hakeem never blocked it...and that was a baby-hook, anyways, not really a sky hook.
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 20, 2012, 12:22:58 PM
All these statistics are pointless. Who has more rings?
Title: Re: Kobe & Shaq >>> Kareem & Magic
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 20, 2012, 12:27:20 PM
All these statistics are pointless. Who has more rings?

Robert Horry