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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Sir Petey on August 09, 2012, 11:12:00 AM
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hes spoke on how he felt relapse was meh and how he thought other things he participated in were tacky or tasteless but has he ever in an interview or on record publicly taken responsibility for the way he defecated on tupacs legacy with that awful album he helmed? that album had enough momentum behind it to change the culture but instead it falls into the bland wasteland of all the rest of his amaru produced body of work, smh.
only other person thats gone farther out of his way to derail tupacs success was the nigga that shot him
and he would have to admit at the end of the day it was true he was a self admitted junky during those times, and he let himself in that state mold and shape the very legacy of the artist he treasured more then any other. he owes hip hop an apology.
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great thread. i agree 100%, especially with the last part.
how the fuck did Afeni allow a drugged up honkey ruin some of her sons music?
maybe she should speak on it too.
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great thread. i agree 100%, especially with the last part.
how the fuck did Afeni allow a drugged up honkey ruin some of her sons music?
maybe she should speak on it too.
Speaking of drugged up..
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man afenis like 72 years old and is a basehead who the fuck was she to say?
its a shame no one that was really close with pac had more input with making those projects happen.
unfortunately the best ones were the ones deathrow had something to do with although the nu mixx things were just as bad for the most part. still i rise is a good cohesive album i just wished they left the beats alone on songs like hell 4 a hustla etc
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Im wondering what his legacy is all abou
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eminem had a few dope remixes (Ghost and Uppercut)
but most of that cd was UNLISTENABLE like his remix of Crooked Nigga Too or the Obie Trice song
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Im wondering what his legacy is all abou
money and power, riders and punks...
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The Eminem stuff is a minimal footnote on Pacs legacy. I think 2Pac fans tend to rate all the non-OG shit the same.
Almost everything Em has done since MMLP will not be shown much love as time goes on...no need for the guy to speak in it. He probably spoke out on Relapse specifically because it got such unanimous hate, which IMO is saving face as if he didn't release mostly weak shit for the longest time.
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Afeni was ordered that Eminem should do the work on Pac's Soundtrack & album. Thnx 2 Jimmy Iovine & Interscope Records + they fucked Pac's Life aswell. Why people think there hasn't been any Pac album with New material since 2006? Afeni doesnt want them Interscope fuck it up
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The Eminem stuff is a minimal footnote on Pacs legacy. I think 2Pac fans tend to rate all the non-OG shit the same.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?@!?!@??? nobody does this
R U Still Down and Still I RIse both received approval from the fans
UTEOT and Better Dayz were ruined but had some gems scattered on them
Loyal and Pac's Life? unlistenable minus Soon As I Get Home and those bonus remixes on Loyal to the GAme
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dont trip.
its will b lol his hip hop opinions are as eccentric as brians
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its will b lol his hip hop opinions are as eccentric as brians
Almost everything Em has done since MMLP will not be shown much love as time goes on...no need for the guy to speak in it. He probably spoke out on Relapse specifically because it got such unanimous hate, which IMO is saving face as if he didn't release mostly weak shit for the longest time.
I speak the truth.
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its will b lol his hip hop opinions are as eccentric as brians
Almost everything Em has done since MMLP will not be shown much love as time goes on...no need for the guy to speak in it. He probably spoke out on Relapse specifically because it got such unanimous hate, which IMO is saving face as if he didn't release mostly weak shit for the longest time.
I speak the truth.
Brian knows more about hiphop & spirituality than u, Will
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its will b lol his hip hop opinions are as eccentric as brians
Almost everything Em has done since MMLP will not be shown much love as time goes on...no need for the guy to speak in it. He probably spoke out on Relapse specifically because it got such unanimous hate, which IMO is saving face as if he didn't release mostly weak shit for the longest time.
I speak the truth.
you also think Lady of Rage is the best rapper ever
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its will b lol his hip hop opinions are as eccentric as brians
Almost everything Em has done since MMLP will not be shown much love as time goes on...no need for the guy to speak in it. He probably spoke out on Relapse specifically because it got such unanimous hate, which IMO is saving face as if he didn't release mostly weak shit for the longest time.
I speak the truth.
you also think Lady of Rage is the best rapper ever
Where did I say that, youngling?
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Lady of Rage is one of the best rappers. She would destroy most men on the mic.
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It sucks but in the grand scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal. So he messed up some scrapped, shelved songs from 1993 or so. The songs weren't all that great to begin with, and ones that fans weren't eager to hear. It's not like they gave him The World Is Mine.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely think the album was bad.
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It sucks but in the grand scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal. So he messed up some scrapped, shelved songs from 1993 or so. The songs weren't all that great to begin with, and ones that fans weren't eager to hear. It's not like they gave him The World Is Mine.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely think the album was bad.
actually most fans WERE eager to hear some unheard songs in original form
we still don't know what Uppercut or Hennessy sound like. same with Revenge of a Soulja.
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LOL, IT HAS BARELY ANY BARRING ON PACS LEGACY. MOST OF THE MUSIC RELEASED AFTER PACS DEATH WAS WATERED DOWN, AND REMIXED TO SHIT. OF COURSE, THERE ARE THE FEW GEMS, BUT I THINK PACS MUSIC SHOULDA BEEN LEFT ALONE AND RELEASED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORMAT, FOR THE MOST PART.
EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME. IT WAS AN HONOR, IF ANYTHING, AND I THINK THE ALBUM WASN'T GREAT, BUT NOT AS TERRIBLE AS YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM. OVERALL, IT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH. PAC'S LEGACY = 1971-1996
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LOL, IT HAS BARELY ANY BARRING ON PACS LEGACY. MOST OF THE MUSIC RELEASED AFTER PACS DEATH WAS WATERED DOWN, AND REMIXED TO SHIT. OF COURSE, THERE ARE THE FEW GEMS, BUT I THINK PACS MUSIC SHOULDA BEEN LEFT ALONE AND RELEASED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORMAT, FOR THE MOST PART.
EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME. IT WAS AN HONOR, IF ANYTHING, AND I THINK THE ALBUM WASN'T GREAT, BUT NOT AS TERRIBLE AS YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM. OVERALL, IT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH. PAC'S LEGACY = 1971-1996
I agree with the first part but not the end part.
Eminem WAS NEVER one of the hottest producers in the game, he just had produced on some big records. And nah, that album is that bad. He's just has some company when it comes to people who turned great 2Pac/Makaveli songs on other posthumous songs.
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Beat that cracka ass
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LOL, IT HAS BARELY ANY BARRING ON PACS LEGACY. MOST OF THE MUSIC RELEASED AFTER PACS DEATH WAS WATERED DOWN, AND REMIXED TO SHIT. OF COURSE, THERE ARE THE FEW GEMS, BUT I THINK PACS MUSIC SHOULDA BEEN LEFT ALONE AND RELEASED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORMAT, FOR THE MOST PART.
EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME. IT WAS AN HONOR, IF ANYTHING, AND I THINK THE ALBUM WASN'T GREAT, BUT NOT AS TERRIBLE AS YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM. OVERALL, IT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH. PAC'S LEGACY = 1971-1996
I agree with the first part but not the end part.
Eminem WAS NEVER one of the hottest producers in the game, he just had produced on some big records. And nah, that album is that bad. He's just has some company when it comes to people who turned great 2Pac/Makaveli songs on other posthumous songs.
LOL, COME ONE, EMINEM WAS A REALLY GOOD PRODUCER UNDER DRE, "THE EMINEM SHOW" WAS A GREAT ALBUM, AND IT WAS MAINLY PRODUCED BY EM. HE PRODUCED SOME OF HIS BEST TRACKS. NOW, HIS PRODUCTION ON "LOYAL 2 THE GAME" WAS NOT SOME OF HIS BEST, BUT I'VE DEFINITELY HEARD WORSE PRODUCTIONS AROUND THAT TIME. I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING, THE PRODUCTION SIMPLY DIDNT FIT PAC'S STYLE. LIKE I SAID, HIS POSTHUMOUS MUSIC SHOULDA BEEN RELEASED IN ORIGINAL FORMAT, FOR THE MOST PART, OR NOT RELEASED AT ALL. A REMIX HERE AND THERE WOULDA BEEN ALRIGHT, BUT INSTEAD, THEY DECIDED TO REMIX PRETTY MUCH HIS ENTIRE CATALOGUE AFTER HE DIED. SHITS BULLSHIT.
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You're right about "The Eminem Show", it was his last great album and it gets overshadowed by his nostalgia. That whole 2002/8 Mile Eminem Era was the shit. It still doesn't mean he was the hottest producer in the game at that time. He just had that machine behind him.
U still had Quik, DJ Paul & Juicy J, Kanye, Lil' Jon, Just Blaze, and alot of other muthafuckaz for the choosin'. They only went with Eminem becuz they thought it woulda been big on the charts... but as we all know it Flopped Hard and we all know why. I know what angle you're coming from and I don't wanna sound like I'm hatin on Eminem but nah son, that shit was wack. He shoulda only had like 2 beats on there at the most.
do u hear how bad he fucked up "Thug 4 Life"?
http://www.youtube.com/v/r7VvxccTLB4 http://www.youtube.com/v/9n-MaEgPKWs http://www.youtube.com/v/6KyWllGg8wE
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EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME.
100% incorrect. He wasn't handpicked... he was given the job because he had offered to do it without asking for any money (which was a big factor since Amaru Records is so fucking cheap). That's partially why Afeni wrote about him in the booklet of the album (assuming that people here who claim to be such Pac fans actually know this, unless they just downloaded it and have never seen the inside of the booklet) talking about how he stepped up the way he did and how it was a breath of fresh air since most other people who approached Afeni would do so asking for some huge payout or expecting an unreleased Pac verse in return.
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Em needs to stay away from producing anything
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Em needs to stay away from producing anything
I don't know how the fuck he got a beat on God's Son, but 'The Cross' was horrible too. :-X
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You're right about "The Eminem Show", it was his last great album and it gets overshadowed by his nostalgia. That whole 2002/8 Mile Eminem Era was the shit. It still doesn't mean he was the hottest producer in the game at that time. He just had that machine behind him.
U still had Quik, DJ Paul & Juicy J, Kanye, Lil' Jon, Just Blaze, and alot of other muthafuckaz for the choosin'. They only went with Eminem becuz they thought it woulda been big on the charts... but as we all know it Flopped Hard and we all know why. I know what angle you're coming from and I don't wanna sound like I'm hatin on Eminem but nah son, that shit was wack. He shoulda only had like 2 beats on there at the most.
do u hear how bad he fucked up "Thug 4 Life"?
http://www.youtube.com/v/r7VvxccTLB4 http://www.youtube.com/v/9n-MaEgPKWs http://www.youtube.com/v/6KyWllGg8wE
NOT SAYIN HE WAS THE HOTTEST, BUT UNDER DRE, HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST, AND WAS SOUGHT AFTER FOR BEATS..BEATS LIKE "TILL I COLLAPSE", "SUPERMAN", "CLEANIN OUT MY CLOSET", "SQUARE DANCE", "MY NAME", "LOSE YOURSELF", "PATIENTLY WAITING" ETC WERE ALL CONSIDERED TOP NOTCH PRODUCTIONS AND HIS NAME AS A PRODUCER WAS ON AN UPRISE. BEFORE ALL THAT, HE PRODUCED HALF OF "THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP"....BUT I AGREE. HIS PRODUCTIONS ON "LOYAL 2 THE GAME" WEREN'T SOME OF HIS BEST, AND DEFINITELY DIDN'T FIT PACS SOUND.
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EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME.
100% incorrect. He wasn't handpicked... he was given the job because he had offered to do it without asking for any money (which was a big factor since Amaru Records is so fucking cheap). That's partially why Afeni wrote about him in the booklet of the album (assuming that people here who claim to be such Pac fans actually know this, unless they just downloaded it and have never seen the inside of the booklet) talking about how he stepped up the way he did and how it was a breath of fresh air since most other people who approached Afeni would do so asking for some huge payout or expecting an unreleased Pac verse in return.
BECAUSE OF HIS WILLINGNESS TO DO THE ALBUM PRO BONO, HE WAS HAND-PICKED... IF HE WAS JUST SOME NO-NAME PRODUCER, HE WOULDA NEVER BEEN SELECTED. EITHER WAY, HE WAS NO SLOUCH AS A PRODUCER AT THE TIME, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY PICKED HIM SOLEY BASED ON THAT FACT.
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EMINEM WAS HAND PICKED TO REMIX THAT ALBUM, BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE HOTTEST PRODUCERS IN THE GAME AT THAT TIME.
100% incorrect. He wasn't handpicked... he was given the job because he had offered to do it without asking for any money (which was a big factor since Amaru Records is so fucking cheap). That's partially why Afeni wrote about him in the booklet of the album (assuming that people here who claim to be such Pac fans actually know this, unless they just downloaded it and have never seen the inside of the booklet) talking about how he stepped up the way he did and how it was a breath of fresh air since most other people who approached Afeni would do so asking for some huge payout or expecting an unreleased Pac verse in return.
I 4got about that. I think E.D. spoke on that