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Title: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 02, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
another Beats reference, your wack ass voice flow and voice, your shit ghost written lyrics


RAPPING ON ANOTHER PRODUCERS BEAT.... AGAIN







just stop
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Remedy360 on October 02, 2012, 06:40:23 PM
He's never been great but to this day I still don't see his rapping as a problem. Obviously present day is different than when he was in his prime producing wise but it's not like he sounds nearly as bad as guys like Kurupt and Snoop.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 02, 2012, 06:42:51 PM
He's never been great but to this day I still don't see his rapping as a problem. Obviously present day is different than when he was in his prime producing wise but it's not like he sounds nearly as bad as guys like Kurupt and Snoop.

a track called Compton and nigga too lazy to produce it, but we blessed with a ghost written Dre verse with his new corny forced flow?



stop it
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Remedy360 on October 02, 2012, 06:46:22 PM
He's never been great but to this day I still don't see his rapping as a problem. Obviously present day is different than when he was in his prime producing wise but it's not like he sounds nearly as bad as guys like Kurupt and Snoop.

a track called Compton and nigga too lazy to produce it, but we blessed with a ghost written Dre verse with his new corny forced flow?



stop it

I'm not saying a lot of the decisions he makes aren't lame, I'm just saying that his rapping isn't that bad. Does Snoop Lion sound better to you?
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Matty on October 02, 2012, 06:46:37 PM
lol.

but the vocoder bit at the end is not slick. you can't go from roger troutman to that.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 02, 2012, 06:48:26 PM
He's never been great but to this day I still don't see his rapping as a problem. Obviously present day is different than when he was in his prime producing wise but it's not like he sounds nearly as bad as guys like Kurupt and Snoop.

a track called Compton and nigga too lazy to produce it, but we blessed with a ghost written Dre verse with his new corny forced flow?



stop it

I'm not saying a lot of the decisions he makes aren't lame, I'm just saying that his rapping isn't that bad. Does Snoop Lion sound better to you?

the fuck snoop lion have to do with this?
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Remedy360 on October 02, 2012, 06:50:12 PM
He's never been great but to this day I still don't see his rapping as a problem. Obviously present day is different than when he was in his prime producing wise but it's not like he sounds nearly as bad as guys like Kurupt and Snoop.

a track called Compton and nigga too lazy to produce it, but we blessed with a ghost written Dre verse with his new corny forced flow?



stop it

I'm not saying a lot of the decisions he makes aren't lame, I'm just saying that his rapping isn't that bad. Does Snoop Lion sound better to you?

the fuck snoop lion have to do with this?

I'm just saying that even though his shit could be better there's much worse shit (like Snoop) that you could be complaining about.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 02, 2012, 06:53:59 PM
He's never been great but to this day I still don't see his rapping as a problem. Obviously present day is different than when he was in his prime producing wise but it's not like he sounds nearly as bad as guys like Kurupt and Snoop.

a track called Compton and nigga too lazy to produce it, but we blessed with a ghost written Dre verse with his new corny forced flow?



stop it

I'm not saying a lot of the decisions he makes aren't lame, I'm just saying that his rapping isn't that bad. Does Snoop Lion sound better to you?

the fuck snoop lion have to do with this?

I'm just saying that even though his shit could be better there's much worse shit (like Snoop) that you could be complaining about.

Snoop got nothing to prove, he doing EA FIFA commercials, reggae music, and whatever the fuck he wants because he can.  Kendrick Lamar about to drop his major label debut and Dre got himself rapping about Beats headphones on another niggas beat. 
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 02, 2012, 09:37:34 PM
He's never been great but to this day I still don't see his rapping as a problem. Obviously present day is different than when he was in his prime producing wise but it's not like he sounds nearly as bad as guys like Kurupt and Snoop.

a track called Compton and nigga too lazy to produce it, but we blessed with a ghost written Dre verse with his new corny forced flow?



stop it

I'm not saying a lot of the decisions he makes aren't lame, I'm just saying that his rapping isn't that bad. Does Snoop Lion sound better to you?

the fuck snoop lion have to do with this?

I'm just saying that even though his shit could be better there's much worse shit (like Snoop) that you could be complaining about.

Snoop got nothing to prove, he doing EA FIFA commercials, reggae music, and whatever the fuck he wants because he can.  Kendrick Lamar about to drop his major label debut and Dre got himself rapping about Beats headphones on another niggas beat. 


so snoop has nothing 2 prove, but dre does? .... lol thats good


Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: FUCK-YOU-BItch on October 02, 2012, 11:21:32 PM
Long Beach Iz Active, Shut The Fuck Up!!!!!!!!!!!! you just a clown for real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Raiders4Life on October 03, 2012, 12:07:43 AM
You could've gone with "Yo, Dre, stick to producin'!" as the thread title.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: ironmike on October 03, 2012, 01:38:53 AM
 

Dre is a dope producer, but i think that he's not a producer who can recreate his style of producing.
But i think most producers cant, and there's nothing wrong with that, aslong as their beats are dope.
They have their style, and they stick with it, and just keep pushing out beats.
Whereas Dre on the other hand cant recreate his style, and wont make new beats (or hardly make any beats), because he cant get that different sound and style that is tight.
I think that's the whole reason why he never released detox. From what we've been hearing, he cant get the right sound for it that sounds new, fresh and tight.
He doesnt want to make another album that sounds like chronic 2001 or his past productions he did for other peoples albums.
I for one have no problem with a chronic 2001 part 2, but i think he will be critisized as not being able to recreate if it sounds the same,
and dre cares more about that then just making some dope music. He's obviously too obssessed with keeping this false image as the ultimate master producer in the rap game,
and he just cant keeping living up to it.

Dre also tends to get other producers to co-produce beats with him, because he obviously has trouble trying to make something from scratch,
so he gets another producer to bring some ideas, melodies, sounds or some beats that need to be polished and tweeked,
and then dre will finish the beat off, adding maybe some extra sounds, bass, drums etc and make it sound even better.

I think dre has been doing this from since he started, and he's so good at it.
Back in the ruthless days, he had ghost producers that helped him with
all his beats, but never got any credit for it.
Same for his days at death row. All his beats were co-produced by
other producers, but they never got any credit for it.
The chronic and doggystyle albums were co-produced by a bunch of producers,
on different tracks, like daz and warren g, but also others like the glove,
but they never were given credit for it. Some producers claim that they
produced whole tracks in their entirety and dre didnt contribute a thing,
but all the credit was given to dre.

I think suge also encouraged this, as snoop mentioned before that when
soopafly made the "who got some gangsta shit" beat, suge approached snoop
and told him that he wanted snoop to get the credit for making the beat,
and suge would tell soopafly to go kick rocks, but snoop told suge
not to do that, and he wanted him part of his team. So there was obviously
the culture there at death row of robbing and stealing other peoples beats.

It was only when the dogg food album came out that the actual producers
were getting credit for the beats they made, even if dre played a part
with touching the tracks. The dogg food album was credited as being only
mixed by dre, but that was more or less what dre was contributing before
on the chronic and doggystyle albums, but i think with a little bit more
input.

I think dre's method as a producer is getting other producers to bring
beats to the table, and then he works the beat and polishes it up.

He's made classics, but he's not the best producer, and not even among
the best anymore to my opinion, because he can hardly put out any product.
He'll release a couple beats a year if lucky, and that doesnt cut it.
If you want to be considered the best, you have to keep pushing out product,
and he cant. He got a whole list of producers to bring beats to the table
for detox like dj pooh, battlecat, dj quik, warreng , but dre still couldnt
come out with any winning product.

you cant claim your the best if you cant keep pushing out dope beats.
You have to keep earning that title if you want to keep it.
It's like a boxer winning a champion belt, but keeps holding onto it
without accepting to fight any new challengers or fighting only smallfry.
. You cant be respected, and not earning the right to keep that title.

Dre's somehow the best producer, but he cant even release any new beats,
while other dope producers keep bringing out dope beats all the time.

Dre's time has long gone. He cant even make any beats for his own artist's
album (kendrick lamar) , but instead raps on the album because he's not
able to play the background by being just the producer, because he cant make any beats.
That's when you know dre is in trouble.

Dre aint the best no more
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on October 03, 2012, 01:45:21 AM
He's never been great but to this day I still don't see his rapping as a problem. Obviously present day is different than when he was in his prime producing wise but it's not like he sounds nearly as bad as guys like Kurupt and Snoop.

Snoop still sounds okay to me.. but your spot on in regards to Kurupt.   Actually Dre probably goes over his verses 100X times till they are perfected.  Kurupt probably freestyles most his album with little attention to detail.  I remember back in the day Kurupt was on BET when Dogg Pound was still in their prime and he said that Daz sometimes changes things over and over and that he thought he should just drop that shit.  I think Kurupt really needs a producer who is a perfectionist to make sure he puts his all into each line.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: ironmike on October 03, 2012, 02:00:51 AM
Pac been saying it from all the way back in 1996.

"He ain't made a beat in six years, swear he the shit"
2pac - Watch Ya Mouth
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2012, 02:14:09 AM
Pac been saying it from all the way back in 1996.

"He ain't made a beat in six years, swear he the shit"
2pac - Watch Ya Mouth


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: bouli77 on October 03, 2012, 02:59:21 AM
lol.

but the vocoder bit at the end is not slick. you can't go from roger troutman to that.

i like the vocoder, it's not as good as roger goin in with the talkbox on california love but it's still tight. vocoder is the shit, too.

it reminds me of the talkbox at the end of mafioso's they can't fade us  8)

http://www.youtube.com/v/7e0AAhyB2eI
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 03, 2012, 05:07:30 AM
Pac been saying it from all the way back in 1996.

"He ain't made a beat in six years, swear he the shit"
2pac - Watch Ya Mouth


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.

What beats have Dre produced in the last 5 years?
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: PhunkyDoob on October 03, 2012, 06:13:00 AM
 

Dre is a dope producer, but i think that he's not a producer who can recreate his style of producing.
But i think most producers cant, and there's nothing wrong with that, aslong as their beats are dope.
They have their style, and they stick with it, and just keep pushing out beats.
Whereas Dre on the other hand cant recreate his style, and wont make new beats (or hardly make any beats), because he cant get that different sound and style that is tight.
I think that's the whole reason why he never released detox. From what we've been hearing, he cant get the right sound for it that sounds new, fresh and tight.
He doesnt want to make another album that sounds like chronic 2001 or his past productions he did for other peoples albums.
I for one have no problem with a chronic 2001 part 2, but i think he will be critisized as not being able to recreate if it sounds the same,
and dre cares more about that then just making some dope music. He's obviously too obssessed with keeping this false image as the ultimate master producer in the rap game,
and he just cant keeping living up to it.

Dre also tends to get other producers to co-produce beats with him, because he obviously has trouble trying to make something from scratch,
so he gets another producer to bring some ideas, melodies, sounds or some beats that need to be polished and tweeked,
and then dre will finish the beat off, adding maybe some extra sounds, bass, drums etc and make it sound even better.

I think dre has been doing this from since he started, and he's so good at it.
Back in the ruthless days, he had ghost producers that helped him with
all his beats, but never got any credit for it.
Same for his days at death row. All his beats were co-produced by
other producers, but they never got any credit for it.
The chronic and doggystyle albums were co-produced by a bunch of producers,
on different tracks, like daz and warren g, but also others like the glove,
but they never were given credit for it. Some producers claim that they
produced whole tracks in their entirety and dre didnt contribute a thing,
but all the credit was given to dre.

I think suge also encouraged this, as snoop mentioned before that when
soopafly made the "who got some gangsta shit" beat, suge approached snoop
and told him that he wanted snoop to get the credit for making the beat,
and suge would tell soopafly to go kick rocks, but snoop told suge
not to do that, and he wanted him part of his team. So there was obviously
the culture there at death row of robbing and stealing other peoples beats.

It was only when the dogg food album came out that the actual producers
were getting credit for the beats they made, even if dre played a part
with touching the tracks. The dogg food album was credited as being only
mixed by dre, but that was more or less what dre was contributing before
on the chronic and doggystyle albums, but i think with a little bit more
input.

I think dre's method as a producer is getting other producers to bring
beats to the table, and then he works the beat and polishes it up.

He's made classics, but he's not the best producer, and not even among
the best anymore to my opinion, because he can hardly put out any product.
He'll release a couple beats a year if lucky, and that doesnt cut it.
If you want to be considered the best, you have to keep pushing out product,
and he cant. He got a whole list of producers to bring beats to the table
for detox like dj pooh, battlecat, dj quik, warreng , but dre still couldnt
come out with any winning product.

you cant claim your the best if you cant keep pushing out dope beats.
You have to keep earning that title if you want to keep it.
It's like a boxer winning a champion belt, but keeps holding onto it
without accepting to fight any new challengers or fighting only smallfry.
. You cant be respected, and not earning the right to keep that title.

Dre's somehow the best producer, but he cant even release any new beats,
while other dope producers keep bringing out dope beats all the time.

Dre's time has long gone. He cant even make any beats for his own artist's
album (kendrick lamar) , but instead raps on the album because he's not
able to play the background by being just the producer, because he cant make any beats.
That's when you know dre is in trouble.

Dre aint the best no more

Dre has never been a beatmaker, from my understand. Dre is and always has been a producer. There is a difference between the 2. So of courseh he not doing it from scratch.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 03, 2012, 08:28:03 AM
 

Dre is a dope producer, but i think that he's not a producer who can recreate his style of producing.
But i think most producers cant, and there's nothing wrong with that, aslong as their beats are dope.
They have their style, and they stick with it, and just keep pushing out beats.
Whereas Dre on the other hand cant recreate his style, and wont make new beats (or hardly make any beats), because he cant get that different sound and style that is tight.
I think that's the whole reason why he never released detox. From what we've been hearing, he cant get the right sound for it that sounds new, fresh and tight.
He doesnt want to make another album that sounds like chronic 2001 or his past productions he did for other peoples albums.
I for one have no problem with a chronic 2001 part 2, but i think he will be critisized as not being able to recreate if it sounds the same,
and dre cares more about that then just making some dope music. He's obviously too obssessed with keeping this false image as the ultimate master producer in the rap game,
and he just cant keeping living up to it.

Dre also tends to get other producers to co-produce beats with him, because he obviously has trouble trying to make something from scratch,
so he gets another producer to bring some ideas, melodies, sounds or some beats that need to be polished and tweeked,
and then dre will finish the beat off, adding maybe some extra sounds, bass, drums etc and make it sound even better.

I think dre has been doing this from since he started, and he's so good at it.
Back in the ruthless days, he had ghost producers that helped him with
all his beats, but never got any credit for it.
Same for his days at death row. All his beats were co-produced by
other producers, but they never got any credit for it.
The chronic and doggystyle albums were co-produced by a bunch of producers,
on different tracks, like daz and warren g, but also others like the glove,
but they never were given credit for it. Some producers claim that they
produced whole tracks in their entirety and dre didnt contribute a thing,
but all the credit was given to dre.

I think suge also encouraged this, as snoop mentioned before that when
soopafly made the "who got some gangsta shit" beat, suge approached snoop
and told him that he wanted snoop to get the credit for making the beat,
and suge would tell soopafly to go kick rocks, but snoop told suge
not to do that, and he wanted him part of his team. So there was obviously
the culture there at death row of robbing and stealing other peoples beats.

It was only when the dogg food album came out that the actual producers
were getting credit for the beats they made, even if dre played a part
with touching the tracks. The dogg food album was credited as being only
mixed by dre, but that was more or less what dre was contributing before
on the chronic and doggystyle albums, but i think with a little bit more
input.

I think dre's method as a producer is getting other producers to bring
beats to the table, and then he works the beat and polishes it up.

He's made classics, but he's not the best producer, and not even among
the best anymore to my opinion, because he can hardly put out any product.
He'll release a couple beats a year if lucky, and that doesnt cut it.
If you want to be considered the best, you have to keep pushing out product,
and he cant. He got a whole list of producers to bring beats to the table
for detox like dj pooh, battlecat, dj quik, warreng , but dre still couldnt
come out with any winning product.

you cant claim your the best if you cant keep pushing out dope beats.
You have to keep earning that title if you want to keep it.
It's like a boxer winning a champion belt, but keeps holding onto it
without accepting to fight any new challengers or fighting only smallfry.
. You cant be respected, and not earning the right to keep that title.

Dre's somehow the best producer, but he cant even release any new beats,
while other dope producers keep bringing out dope beats all the time.

Dre's time has long gone. He cant even make any beats for his own artist's
album (kendrick lamar) , but instead raps on the album because he's not
able to play the background by being just the producer, because he cant make any beats.
That's when you know dre is in trouble.

Dre aint the best no more

Dre has never been a beatmaker, from my understand. Dre is and always has been a producer. There is a difference between the 2. So of courseh he not doing it from scratch.

the nigga not even producing anything, he not beat making, producing, writing lyrics, nothing
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Westcoastfanatic on October 03, 2012, 08:38:03 AM
He's never been great but to this day I still don't see his rapping as a problem. Obviously present day is different than when he was in his prime producing wise but it's not like he sounds nearly as bad as guys like Kurupt and Snoop.

a track called Compton and nigga too lazy to produce it, but we blessed with a ghost written Dre verse with his new corny forced flow?



stop it

Don't think he's lazy. It's just that he doesn't have the inspiration anymore to produce classic tracks. Been like that for about 6 years now.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2012, 12:22:17 PM
Pac been saying it from all the way back in 1996.

"He ain't made a beat in six years, swear he the shit"
2pac - Watch Ya Mouth


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.

What beats have Dre produced in the last 5 years?


off top, "Kush", "Topless", "Louis XIII", "Bottoms Up", "Dead People", "Shit Popped Off", "Ha Ha", "The Recipe", "Drug Test", "Make Up Sex"....all songs produced by Dre or ghost-produced by Dre and credited to someone else.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 03, 2012, 12:59:14 PM
Pac been saying it from all the way back in 1996.

"He ain't made a beat in six years, swear he the shit"
2pac - Watch Ya Mouth


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.

What beats have Dre produced in the last 5 years?


off top, "Kush", "Topless", "Louis XIII", "Bottoms Up", "Dead People", "Shit Popped Off", "Ha Ha", "The Recipe", "Drug Test", "Make Up Sex"....all songs produced by Dre or ghost-produced by Dre and credited to someone else.

Kush/Recipe/Drug Test I know were not produced by Dre
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Blood$ on October 03, 2012, 01:04:51 PM
^ "Kush" and "Drug Test" were mixed by Dre but he didn't make the beats, "3 Kings" on Ross' album was mixed by him too

not gonna lie though I missed these threads from LBIA  8)
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2012, 01:09:40 PM
Pac been saying it from all the way back in 1996.

"He ain't made a beat in six years, swear he the shit"
2pac - Watch Ya Mouth


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.

What beats have Dre produced in the last 5 years?


off top, "Kush", "Topless", "Louis XIII", "Bottoms Up", "Dead People", "Shit Popped Off", "Ha Ha", "The Recipe", "Drug Test", "Make Up Sex"....all songs produced by Dre or ghost-produced by Dre and credited to someone else.

Kush/Recipe/Drug Test I know were not produced by Dre

right...do u really believe that? like i said, 10 years ago, those beats would be credited to Dre. nowadays, the definition of producer got lost, so he gets mixing credit. but listen to "Louis XIII" and then "Drug Test"....if u really dont think both those beats are produced by the same dude, then u gotta check ya ears. what Khalil did was come up with a simple rift for Dre to fux wit, and Dre brings it to life. that is what Dre does and has done his whole career. a true composer, in every sense of the word.


"3 Kings" as well...another production which woulda been credited to Dre 10 years ago, but is not, due to people complainin over the years.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: jman91331 on October 03, 2012, 01:49:27 PM
 

Dre is a dope producer, but i think that he's not a producer who can recreate his style of producing.
But i think most producers cant, and there's nothing wrong with that, aslong as their beats are dope.
They have their style, and they stick with it, and just keep pushing out beats.
Whereas Dre on the other hand cant recreate his style, and wont make new beats (or hardly make any beats), because he cant get that different sound and style that is tight.
I think that's the whole reason why he never released detox. From what we've been hearing, he cant get the right sound for it that sounds new, fresh and tight.
He doesnt want to make another album that sounds like chronic 2001 or his past productions he did for other peoples albums.
I for one have no problem with a chronic 2001 part 2, but i think he will be critisized as not being able to recreate if it sounds the same,
and dre cares more about that then just making some dope music. He's obviously too obssessed with keeping this false image as the ultimate master producer in the rap game,
and he just cant keeping living up to it.

Dre also tends to get other producers to co-produce beats with him, because he obviously has trouble trying to make something from scratch,
so he gets another producer to bring some ideas, melodies, sounds or some beats that need to be polished and tweeked,
and then dre will finish the beat off, adding maybe some extra sounds, bass, drums etc and make it sound even better.

I think dre has been doing this from since he started, and he's so good at it.
Back in the ruthless days, he had ghost producers that helped him with
all his beats, but never got any credit for it.
Same for his days at death row. All his beats were co-produced by
other producers, but they never got any credit for it.
The chronic and doggystyle albums were co-produced by a bunch of producers,
on different tracks, like daz and warren g, but also others like the glove,
but they never were given credit for it. Some producers claim that they
produced whole tracks in their entirety and dre didnt contribute a thing,
but all the credit was given to dre.

I think suge also encouraged this, as snoop mentioned before that when
soopafly made the "who got some gangsta shit" beat, suge approached snoop
and told him that he wanted snoop to get the credit for making the beat,
and suge would tell soopafly to go kick rocks, but snoop told suge
not to do that, and he wanted him part of his team. So there was obviously
the culture there at death row of robbing and stealing other peoples beats.

It was only when the dogg food album came out that the actual producers
were getting credit for the beats they made, even if dre played a part
with touching the tracks. The dogg food album was credited as being only
mixed by dre, but that was more or less what dre was contributing before
on the chronic and doggystyle albums, but i think with a little bit more
input.

I think dre's method as a producer is getting other producers to bring
beats to the table, and then he works the beat and polishes it up.

He's made classics, but he's not the best producer, and not even among
the best anymore to my opinion, because he can hardly put out any product.
He'll release a couple beats a year if lucky, and that doesnt cut it.
If you want to be considered the best, you have to keep pushing out product,
and he cant. He got a whole list of producers to bring beats to the table
for detox like dj pooh, battlecat, dj quik, warreng , but dre still couldnt
come out with any winning product.

you cant claim your the best if you cant keep pushing out dope beats.
You have to keep earning that title if you want to keep it.
It's like a boxer winning a champion belt, but keeps holding onto it
without accepting to fight any new challengers or fighting only smallfry.
. You cant be respected, and not earning the right to keep that title.

Dre's somehow the best producer, but he cant even release any new beats,
while other dope producers keep bringing out dope beats all the time.

Dre's time has long gone. He cant even make any beats for his own artist's
album (kendrick lamar) , but instead raps on the album because he's not
able to play the background by being just the producer, because he cant make any beats.
That's when you know dre is in trouble.

Dre aint the best no more

Dre has never been a beatmaker, from my understand. Dre is and always has been a producer. There is a difference between the 2. So of courseh he not doing it from scratch.
Not true. A lot of Dre's beats (especially early in his career) Dre either made from scratch or started off from him then added other musicians/co-producers  imput. Most of his beats get started with Dre on the drum machine & usually just the tracks that are credited as either co-produced by Dr. Dre or additional production by Dr. Dre will be where he takes someone else's beat & enhance it. In the NWA/early Death Row days he had musicians replay samples over his drums so the next logical step was to have musicians play they own ideas over his drums & Dre picks what he likes, or he'll hum a melody & have them play the shit. That still would be considered beat making and producing though.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: jman91331 on October 03, 2012, 01:59:35 PM
Pac been saying it from all the way back in 1996.

"He ain't made a beat in six years, swear he the shit"
2pac - Watch Ya Mouth


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.

What beats have Dre produced in the last 5 years?


off top, "Kush", "Topless", "Louis XIII", "Bottoms Up", "Dead People", "Shit Popped Off", "Ha Ha", "The Recipe", "Drug Test", "Make Up Sex"....all songs produced by Dre or ghost-produced by Dre and credited to someone else.
Relapse (whole album except one song), a couple of tracks off 50's BFISD, So Bad off Recovery
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Black Excellence on October 03, 2012, 03:41:39 PM
You could've gone with "Yo, Dre, stick to producin'!" as the thread title.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Smokin Briccz on October 03, 2012, 04:21:27 PM
dr. dre gets his buttcheeks blown out by his personal trainer and he makes his white tranny wife blow his buttcheecks out with a big white strapon named Marshall.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on October 03, 2012, 04:26:09 PM
Pac been saying it from all the way back in 1996.

"He ain't made a beat in six years, swear he the shit"
2pac - Watch Ya Mouth


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.

What beats have Dre produced in the last 5 years?


off top, "Kush", "Topless", "Louis XIII", "Bottoms Up", "Dead People", "Shit Popped Off", "Ha Ha", "The Recipe", "Drug Test", "Make Up Sex"....all songs produced by Dre or ghost-produced by Dre and credited to someone else.

Kush/Recipe/Drug Test I know were not produced by Dre

right...do u really believe that? like i said, 10 years ago, those beats would be credited to Dre. nowadays, the definition of producer got lost, so he gets mixing credit. but listen to "Louis XIII" and then "Drug Test"....if u really dont think both those beats are produced by the same dude, then u gotta check ya ears. what Khalil did was come up with a simple rift for Dre to fux wit, and Dre brings it to life. that is what Dre does and has done his whole career. a true composer, in every sense of the word.


"3 Kings" as well...another production which woulda been credited to Dre 10 years ago, but is not, due to people complainin over the years.

In other words....Dre PRODUCED THEM!
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on October 03, 2012, 04:50:51 PM


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.

I agree, for the most part.  I do think Dre's efforts on the Dogg Food album were understated.   I give Dre props for playing the background on that album and helping Daz and the Dogg Pound get their shine.  That album was a classic with no filler.  btw, What interview did Suge say that in?  That's kind of interesting...

But I also want to point out that Daz did have other production credits that were on par with the Dogg Food album.  His production work on All Eyez On Me was on par with the Dogg Pound album, and there is also there is no significant decrease in quality in his production work on tha Doggfather album and his own Revenge Retaliation and Get Back album.  Even non album cuts like "Me In Your World" or "Way to Crazy" with Tray Dee and so on show that Daz was just on fire from 92-98.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Black Excellence on October 03, 2012, 04:58:19 PM


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.
that's true.

I agree, for the most part.  I do think Dre's efforts on the Dogg Food album were understated.   I give Dre props for playing the background on that album and helping Daz and the Dogg Pound get their shine.  That album was a classic with no filler.  btw, What interview did Suge say that in?  That's kind of interesting...

But I also want to point out that Daz did have other production credits that were on par with the Dogg Food album.  His production work on All Eyez On Me was on par with the Dogg Pound album, and there is also there is no significant decrease in quality in his production work on tha Doggfather album and his own Revenge Retaliation and Get Back album.  Even non album cuts like "Me In Your World" or "Way to Crazy" with Tray Dee and so on show that Daz was just on fire from 92-98.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: PLANT on October 03, 2012, 05:46:29 PM
I have no problem with Dre rapping on songs if the flow and delivery is on point.  Dre on Kush, Compton>>>>Lil Wayne annoying voice on anything

ghostwritten or not.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2012, 06:17:40 PM


thats because pac (and most peeps) dont understand the true definition of a producer and how much more ability it takes to produce an actual track than just come up with a lil beat loop. dre is a REAL producer, thats why anything that has his name on it knocks like no other. most these other cats are simply beatmakers who couldnt produce a track like dre if their life depended on it.

"dogg food" was ghost-produced by dre...they gave dre the mixing credit, but most that shit was signature dre to the fullest. suge said it himself, they wanted 2 push daz as the next big producer on death row, so they gave daz the credit as producer of the album. when has daz produced like he did on "dogg food" since it came out? dont worry, ill wait.. not sayin daz didnt have his hand in producing the album, cuz he did, but the final say of what goes where and how to bring the track to life was all dre, which, in essence, is what a producer does.

I agree, for the most part.  I do think Dre's efforts on the Dogg Food album were understated.   I give Dre props for playing the background on that album and helping Daz and the Dogg Pound get their shine.  That album was a classic with no filler.  btw, What interview did Suge say that in?  That's kind of interesting...

But I also want to point out that Daz did have other production credits that were on par with the Dogg Food album.  His production work on All Eyez On Me was on par with the Dogg Pound album, and there is also there is no significant decrease in quality in his production work on tha Doggfather album and his own Revenge Retaliation and Get Back album.  Even non album cuts like "Me In Your World" or "Way to Crazy" with Tray Dee and so on show that Daz was just on fire from 92-98.

i still think the production sounds way more polished on "dogg food"...shit just knocks in the system to perfection, along with all classic dre productions. dont get me wrong, Daz has had classic beats with no Dre involvement. but it never knocked quite like those beats on "dogg food"
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 03, 2012, 06:26:08 PM
i say Doggystyle shits on Dogg Food  8)
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 03, 2012, 06:26:56 PM
i say Doggystyle shits on Dogg Food  8)

both timeless west coast classics
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: originalsfx on October 03, 2012, 07:27:44 PM
DRE SUX ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on October 03, 2012, 07:56:51 PM

i still think the production sounds way more polished on "dogg food"...shit just knocks in the system to perfection, along with all classic dre productions. dont get me wrong, Daz has had classic beats with no Dre involvement. but it never knocked quite like those beats on "dogg food"


Agreed.  More "polished" is a good word for it.  Dre has a way of making beats come out the speakers clean.  Jimmy Iovine says he had some gazillion dollar speaker system and that Dre's production on the Chronic album was the first time a rap record ever came clean out of his speakers.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: MOBNigga06 on October 03, 2012, 09:23:49 PM
"I'll prove I'm clever and your game is wack with with one line: I never put my name on a track that wasn't mine"

"...and I'll tell you to your face nigga: you sound shitty"
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: andre on October 04, 2012, 05:51:55 AM
Haters gonna hate




another Beats reference, your wack ass voice flow and voice, your shit ghost written lyrics


RAPPING ON ANOTHER PRODUCERS BEAT.... AGAIN







just stop
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 04, 2012, 09:00:35 AM
Wait...............


were any of yall there when "Dogg Food" was being recorded or are we gonna just speculate on that and say its the truth like Bloggers do with Wayne and Birdman's Gang Affiliation?


and do any of yall know the definition of Mixing, Engineering, and what Post-Production is all about?  Y'all r right in theory but none of us actually were there during that time watching them do their thing. 


let's not try to re-write history.  let's keep it 100 without all of the Stanning, becuz in the end none of us were there.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 04, 2012, 09:22:47 AM
Wait...............


were any of yall there when "Dogg Food" was being recorded or are we gonna just speculate on that and say its the truth like Bloggers do with Wayne and Birdman's Gang Affiliation?


and do any of yall know the definition of Mixing, Engineering, and what Post-Production is all about?  Y'all r right in theory but none of us actually were there during that time watching them do their thing. 


let's not try to re-write history.  let's keep it 100 without all of the Stanning, becuz in the end none of us were there.


Some peeps have a strong ear for music and can tell the difference of producers just from listening. That, along with all the info ive gathered surrounding the album suggests that Dre did a bulk of the production and went uncredited. It's not a fact, but it's as close to factual as one can get.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 04, 2012, 09:33:55 AM
Thats fantasy Nik, u dont know who did what at the end of the day and thats that, thats the underlying FACT of your claim.  On top of all of that Your ear isnt even nice.  Dont get ahead of yourself Nik becuz youre feeling rebelious against online marketers these days
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 04, 2012, 10:43:57 AM
Thats fantasy Nik, u dont know who did what at the end of the day and thats that, thats the underlying FACT of your claim.  On top of all of that Your ear isnt even nice.  Dont get ahead of yourself Nik becuz youre feeling rebelious against online marketers these days


life isnt a competition, son....telling others u feel less about them doesn't make u more, even if it may feel that way. if anything, it makes u less. trust me.

what makes ur opinion more credible than any1 elses?..are u God? I didnt think so, cuzin. so miss me with that dumbass higher-powereque talk, cuz it just makes u look more and more insecure wit each and every post.

to be real with u, it's simply called an educated guess...Dre produced a majority of "Dogg Food, based on my impeccable ear, accounts of people involved with the album, history of those who produced it, as well as the opinion of other respected west coast hip-hop heads who ive encountered throughout the years (which you aren't one of)..........if u can build on this with legit points, be my guest. otherwise, shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: jman91331 on October 04, 2012, 11:40:42 AM
I don't know if Dre did more than Daz production-wise on Dogg Food but sure he definitely had something to do with the album besides just mixing it. For one, Snoop himself said Dre produced on it. Second, Dre mixed other albums where he only produced a few songs himself on (No Limit Top Dogg, Truthfully Speaking, Jay Z's Kingdom Come, & a good portion of the Massacre) & none of them sound as good as Dogg Food which Dre supposedly just mixed. & third, there hasn't been another Dogg Pound album produced by Daz that sound anywhere close to the production quality of Dogg Food even when he used talented could-producers like Soopafly and Mike Dean. That shows the difference too, Daz may have brought a few ideas to the table for Doggystyle & he was yapping in interviews every chance he got about Dre stealing credit for it, while Dre has never said a word about his involvement with Dogg Food outside of wondering why they didn't use a couple of beats he tried to give them for the album.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 04, 2012, 01:00:33 PM
I don't know if Dre did more than Daz production-wise on Dogg Food but sure he definitely had something to do with the album besides just mixing it. For one, Snoop himself said Dre produced on it. Second, Dre mixed other albums where he only produced a few songs himself on (No Limit Top Dogg, Truthfully Speaking, Jay Z's Kingdom Come, & a good portion of the Massacre) & none of them sound as good as Dogg Food which Dre supposedly just mixed. & third, there hasn't been another Dogg Pound album produced by Daz that sound anywhere close to the production quality of Dogg Food even when he used talented could-producers like Soopafly and Mike Dean. That shows the difference too, Daz may have brought a few ideas to the table for Doggystyle & he was yapping in interviews every chance he got about Dre stealing credit for it, while Dre has never said a word about his involvement with Dogg Food outside of wondering why they didn't use a couple of beats he tried to give them for the album.

yea...snoop went on record to say Dre produced a lot of "Dogg Food". We all know Daz had input on "Doggystyle's" production, so an educated person would come to the conclusion that Death Row wasn't exactly handin out credit based on reality, but more so on marketing. Suge said it himself..they wanted to bill Daz as the next big producer on Death Row, and it worked. dunno why it's such a difficult concept for some to grasp.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on October 04, 2012, 01:52:17 PM
third, there hasn't been another Dogg Pound album produced by Daz that sound anywhere close to the production quality of Dogg Food even when he used talented could-producers like Soopafly and Mike Dean.

To be fair, Soopafly comes into the studio, knocks out a beat, then goes outside and knocks out a hoe.  He doesn't have time to sit in the studio for 6 weeks trying to perfect a beat.  He's got other business to handle.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: OG Snoopaveli on October 04, 2012, 02:49:48 PM
third, there hasn't been another Dogg Pound album produced by Daz that sound anywhere close to the production quality of Dogg Food even when he used talented could-producers like Soopafly and Mike Dean.

To be fair, Soopafly comes into the studio, knocks out a beat, then goes outside and knocks out a hoe.  He doesn't have time to sit in the studio for 6 weeks trying to perfect a beat.  He's got other business to handle.

hahaha  8)

i enter in this thread just cause i saw ur name.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 04, 2012, 03:30:15 PM
Shut your bitch ass up Nik.  Its not an "educated guess", its an ignorant assumption and pure fantasy.  You wasnt at CamAm Studios during that era so stop living in this fantasy world that u made up in your mind about people u wish u were or could be around.  U sit up here and act like u know it all, 1 day youre caping for Dre and the next day youre caping for Daz. 


News flash Jew, $ talks.  If u want Dre and Tha Dogg Pound on a track then u gonna have to pay.  Aint nobody about to give your hoe ass "rap" group anything for free, word to Soopafly.  When is your dum ass gonna grow sum hair on your nuts and get those balls off ya chin?  $ Makes The World Go 'Round, not playing fantasy rap star all day. 


THE BOTTOM LINE:  You werent there, u dont know.  You want an educated guess other than looking up the definition of Music Engineer and Mixer then take heed.  Dre and Suge have never gave proper due like that to Producers and Writers.  If he didnt do it in 91', 92', 93', and 94', what makes u think he was doing it in 95'?.... the OJ trial.  He was already accused of trying to jack "Got My Mind Made Up" that same year (and every year after that).  Youre living in kiddie land and u have too much Free Time on your hands, u aint really about what u b talkin bout shawty. Isnt it telling enough that he's clearly having ppl write for him now and he aint even making beats now.  That XZibit track is wack and honest to God truth thats how a real Dr. Dre beat sounds, it has that type of soundscape & bounce if u on sum "educated guess" shit.  And even then we still dont even know that shit for sure for sure. 


U can still admire people without being a hoe
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 04, 2012, 06:11:59 PM
Shut your bitch ass up Nik.  Its not an "educated guess", its an ignorant assumption and pure fantasy.  You wasnt at CamAm Studios during that era so stop living in this fantasy world that u made up in your mind about people u wish u were or could be around.  U sit up here and act like u know it all, 1 day youre caping for Dre and the next day youre caping for Daz. 


News flash Jew, $ talks.  If u want Dre and Tha Dogg Pound on a track then u gonna have to pay.  Aint nobody about to give your hoe ass "rap" group anything for free, word to Soopafly.  When is your dum ass gonna grow sum hair on your nuts and get those balls off ya chin?  $ Makes The World Go 'Round, not playing fantasy rap star all day. 


THE BOTTOM LINE:  You werent there, u dont know.  You want an educated guess other than looking up the definition of Music Engineer and Mixer then take heed.  Dre and Suge have never gave proper due like that to Producers and Writers.  If he didnt do it in 91', 92', 93', and 94', what makes u think he was doing it in 95'?.... the OJ trial.  He was already accused of trying to jack "Got My Mind Made Up" that same year (and every year after that).  Youre living in kiddie land and u have too much Free Time on your hands, u aint really about what u b talkin bout shawty. Isnt it telling enough that he's clearly having ppl write for him now and he aint even making beats now.  That XZibit track is wack and honest to God truth thats how a real Dr. Dre beat sounds, it has that type of soundscape & bounce if u on sum "educated guess" shit.  And even then we still dont even know that shit for sure for sure. 


U can still admire people without being a hoe

lol...now u completely lost me. i dunno what u babblin' on about with all that extra talk, but ur tryna say dre didn't produce on "dogg food", despite snoop and suge claimin he did? despite it bein the greatest produced daz/dogg pound album of all time? despite it havin' signature dre sounds throughout? come on, son. quit tryna make it into some kinda competition with ya insecure ass, we just statin opinions here. are u also tryna claim "doggystyle", "the chronic", and "2001" aint some of the greatest produced rap albums of all time? lollll come on, now....daz is a beast. but give dre props where props is due, my boy
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Black Excellence on October 04, 2012, 06:13:42 PM
Shut your bitch ass up Nik.  Its not an "educated guess", its an ignorant assumption and pure fantasy.  You wasnt at CamAm Studios during that era so stop living in this fantasy world that u made up in your mind about people u wish u were or could be around.  U sit up here and act like u know it all, 1 day youre caping for Dre and the next day youre caping for Daz. 


News flash Jew, $ talks.  If u want Dre and Tha Dogg Pound on a track then u gonna have to pay.  Aint nobody about to give your hoe ass "rap" group anything for free, word to Soopafly.  When is your dum ass gonna grow sum hair on your nuts and get those balls off ya chin?  $ Makes The World Go 'Round, not playing fantasy rap star all day. 


THE BOTTOM LINE:  You werent there, u dont know.  You want an educated guess other than looking up the definition of Music Engineer and Mixer then take heed.  Dre and Suge have never gave proper due like that to Producers and Writers.  If he didnt do it in 91', 92', 93', and 94', what makes u think he was doing it in 95'?.... the OJ trial.  He was already accused of trying to jack "Got My Mind Made Up" that same year (and every year after that).  Youre living in kiddie land and u have too much Free Time on your hands, u aint really about what u b talkin bout shawty. Isnt it telling enough that he's clearly having ppl write for him now and he aint even making beats now.  That XZibit track is wack and honest to God truth thats how a real Dr. Dre beat sounds, it has that type of soundscape & bounce if u on sum "educated guess" shit.  And even then we still dont even know that shit for sure for sure. 


U can still admire people without being a hoe

lol...now u completely lost me. i dunno what u babblin' on about with all that extra talk, but ur tryna say dre didn't produce on "dogg food", despite snoop and suge claimin he did? despite it bein the greatest produced daz/dogg pound album of all time? despite it havin' signature dre sounds throughout? come on, son. quit tryna make it into some kinda competition with ya insecure ass, we just statin opinions here. are u also tryna claim "doggystyle", "the chronic", and "2001" aint some of the greatest produced rap albums of all time? lollll come on, now....daz is a beast. but give dre props where props is due, my boy
comin' from a clown who says dj paul's joint is the best produced album this year.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 04, 2012, 06:22:29 PM
Shut your bitch ass up Nik.  Its not an "educated guess", its an ignorant assumption and pure fantasy.  You wasnt at CamAm Studios during that era so stop living in this fantasy world that u made up in your mind about people u wish u were or could be around.  U sit up here and act like u know it all, 1 day youre caping for Dre and the next day youre caping for Daz.  


News flash Jew, $ talks.  If u want Dre and Tha Dogg Pound on a track then u gonna have to pay.  Aint nobody about to give your hoe ass "rap" group anything for free, word to Soopafly.  When is your dum ass gonna grow sum hair on your nuts and get those balls off ya chin?  $ Makes The World Go 'Round, not playing fantasy rap star all day.  


THE BOTTOM LINE:  You werent there, u dont know.  You want an educated guess other than looking up the definition of Music Engineer and Mixer then take heed.  Dre and Suge have never gave proper due like that to Producers and Writers.  If he didnt do it in 91', 92', 93', and 94', what makes u think he was doing it in 95'?.... the OJ trial.  He was already accused of trying to jack "Got My Mind Made Up" that same year (and every year after that).  Youre living in kiddie land and u have too much Free Time on your hands, u aint really about what u b talkin bout shawty. Isnt it telling enough that he's clearly having ppl write for him now and he aint even making beats now.  That XZibit track is wack and honest to God truth thats how a real Dr. Dre beat sounds, it has that type of soundscape & bounce if u on sum "educated guess" shit.  And even then we still dont even know that shit for sure for sure.  


U can still admire people without being a hoe

lol...now u completely lost me. i dunno what u babblin' on about with all that extra talk, but ur tryna say dre didn't produce on "dogg food", despite snoop and suge claimin he did? despite it bein the greatest produced daz/dogg pound album of all time? despite it havin' signature dre sounds throughout? come on, son. quit tryna make it into some kinda competition with ya insecure ass, we just statin opinions here. are u also tryna claim "doggystyle", "the chronic", and "2001" aint some of the greatest produced rap albums of all time? lollll come on, now....daz is a beast. but give dre props where props is due, my boy


Snoop obviously wasnt trying to throw anybody under the bus, how u didnt hear that i dont know.  



And when did Suge EVER say anything about Dre producing anything?  now youre reaching



youre trying to throw shit out there hopijg it sticks to the wall and its not.  1 thing about debating is that if 1 person knows the actual truth and the other lies then the person telling the truth will always stand stronger.  And if they both dont know then u can tell just as obviously.  So i ask u what r u trying to prove about a 20 year old album and why do u care?  Us this 1 of your hoe strolls again?


youre the only 1 who's stanning.  we all like Dre (probably including LBIA) but we've all heard the stories and none of the responses.  Talking it into existance isnt gonna make it true at the end of the day lol.  youre the only 1 who's going to actally believe it
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 04, 2012, 06:24:58 PM
PGMaterial reminds me of a Flamingo
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Black Excellence on October 04, 2012, 06:34:20 PM
PGMaterial reminds me of a Flamingo
you remind me of a broke raekwon.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 04, 2012, 06:35:10 PM
and youre actually a hoe.  you have very hoish ways outside of fucking
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 04, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
u say a lotta extra shit...

in between, there might be one or two sentences that make sense, but most that shit doesnt have shit to do with the discussion

u didnt say anything about dre producing??

VV

"That XZibit track is wack and honest to God truth thats how a real Dr. Dre beat sounds"

saying something is "whack", then claimin it's "how a real dr. dre beat sounds" LOL


ur shits fulla holes, brodie...i aint competin with ya, just statin opinions. keep it in mind.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Black Excellence on October 04, 2012, 06:38:11 PM
u say a lotta extra shit...

in between, there might be one or two sentences that make sense, but most that shit doesnt have shit to do with the discussion

u didnt say anything about dre producing??

VV

"That XZibit track is wack and honest to God truth thats how a real Dr. Dre beat sounds"

saying something is "whack", then claimin it's "how a real dr. dre beat sounds" LOL


ur shits fulla holes, brodie...i aint competin with ya, just statin opinions. keep it in mind.

LMFAO. i thought it was just me.
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Post by: h2k4 on October 04, 2012, 06:39:16 PM
Haven't read this whole thread but I agree.  Dre needs to step away from the music.  Maybe stay as an executive producer.  His beats and his flow have been lackluster for quite some time now.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 04, 2012, 06:47:12 PM
Some peeps have a strong throat for dicks and can tell the difference in nationalities just from swallowing. It's not a fact, but it's as close to factual as one can get.


u've said ALOT of gay shit over the years Nik.  it aint hard to expose u.  dont u ever try 2 twist up my words
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: ttpac on October 04, 2012, 06:53:49 PM
Although Dre has not done anything all that hot over the last few years, he does have some gems stored in the vault from a different era, different attitude.  
Personally I would definitely open the wallet to have a Dre-type endorsed anthology double disc with OG's & greatest hits!  
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 04, 2012, 07:00:49 PM
Some peeps have a strong throat for dicks and can tell the difference in nationalities just from swallowing. It's not a fact, but it's as close to factual as one can get.


u've said ALOT of gay shit over the years Nik.  it aint hard to expose u.  dont u ever try 2 twist up my words

wtf? now ur havin gay fantasies too? ur completely losin it man
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 04, 2012, 07:03:45 PM
nah man.  u already know ive been rootin for u.  dont make me start to bring up more quotes from the past.  everybody knows your gay in real life
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: Sccit on October 04, 2012, 07:45:09 PM
nah man.  u already know ive been rootin for u.  dont make me start to bring up more quotes from the past.  everybody knows your gay in real life


lol@everyone ..not enough u make imaginary tracklists, now u got imaginary friends too. damn... time 2 take ya medicine, son.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_II_disorder


Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 04, 2012, 07:49:01 PM
lmao.  thats y i fuck wit u Nikcc, u too trill sometimes
Title: Re: Dr. Dre: Please stop rapping
Post by: west koasting on October 05, 2012, 12:56:29 PM
Topic should read birdman not dre