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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Shallow on October 30, 2012, 10:17:53 AM
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Well we're just about halfway to the end, and to be honest I more than anything just wanted to gloat a bit about what I said before the season.
One thing I was majorly wrong about was Bills pass rush, Reggie Wayne playng with any for, and the Pats o-line. And Tebow, but that's Rex just being stubborn.
Cam's been flopping as I said he would, but Luck has shown me a lot more grit as a rookie than I expected despite his mediocre numbers he shows up when it counts, RG3 is a shock to us all to be this good this early in his career. The Saints have crumbled like I expected.
And there's a guy who was cut after a few neck surgeries that everyone wondered if he could ever play at a pro level again. How's he doing?
Well he's at the half way point with the highest total QBR, and the #1 Passer Rating of 109, he's third in TD passes, second in yards per game, 5th in total yards (but a few of those guys ahead of him haven't hit a bye week yet), 4th in completion percentage. But the real quuestion was can he throw it long. Well he's ranked first in yards per attempt.
What did I say about him before the seaon?
Anyone that thinks 49 guys are going to have a better season than Peyton Manning next year is a complete idiot. I said it before and I'll say it again; he'll be in the MVP discussion by week 6. And by this time next year they'll be laughing at the thought of #50.
I was a little off since it took until week 8, but quote me on this, unless the Falcons go 16-0, by looking at the rest of the Broncos schedule they will not lose more than two games coming up and finish at least 11-5, aybe even 13-3, and he will got MVP votes trhis year if not outright win it, become the first player to ever win comeback player ofthe year and MVP in the same season and be th first starting QB, God willing, to win a ring with two different teams. (technically Jim McMahon has two rings with two teams)
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What a disappointing season so far. If Peyton's teammates hadn't quit on him in so many games, they'd be undefeated and Peyton would be on pace to have the best statistic season of all time (fuck Drew Brees he's a bad QB without his coach). Sure, Peyton's been good so far, but I'm pissed cause if his gay teammates hadn't quit on him I'd be even more right. Next, fuck that overrated piece of shit Andrew Luck. I predicted the team wouldn't win at all, but they shouldn't have. If the Colts had played this hard last year, there's no way they would have lost so many games, it has nothing at all do with Luck. And if they had played this hard when Peyton was there, they would have won 10 Superbowls minimum. Fuck Tom Brady.
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Well we're just about halfway to the end, and to be honest I more than anything just wanted to gloat a bit about what I said before the season.
One thing I was majorly wrong about was Bills pass rush, Reggie Wayne playng with any for, and the Pats o-line. And Tebow, but that's Rex just being stubborn.
Cam's been flopping as I said he would, but Luck has shown me a lot more grit as a rookie than I expected despite his mediocre numbers he shows up when it counts, RG3 is a shock to us all to be this good this early in his career. The Saints have crumbled like I expected.
And there's a guy who was cut after a few neck surgeries that everyone wondered if he could ever play at a pro level again. How's he doing?
Well he's at the half way point with the highest total QBR, and the #1 Passer Rating of 109, he's third in TD passes, second in yards per game, 5th in total yards (but a few of those guys ahead of him haven't hit a bye week yet), 4th in completion percentage. But the real quuestion was can he throw it long. Well he's ranked first in yards per attempt.
What did I say about him before the seaon?
Anyone that thinks 49 guys are going to have a better season than Peyton Manning next year is a complete idiot. I said it before and I'll say it again; he'll be in the MVP discussion by week 6. And by this time next year they'll be laughing at the thought of #50.
I was a little off since it took until week 8, but quote me on this, unless the Falcons go 16-0, by looking at the rest of the Broncos schedule they will not lose more than two games coming up and finish at least 11-5, aybe even 13-3, and he will got MVP votes trhis year if not outright win it, become the first player to ever win comeback player ofthe year and MVP in the same season and be th first starting QB, God willing, to win a ring with two different teams. (technically Jim McMahon has two rings with two teams)
Good stuff Shallow.. but I would like to see proof that you predicted Cam Newton's sophmore slump
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What a disappointing season so far. If Peyton's teammates hadn't quit on him in so many games, they'd be undefeated and Peyton would be on pace to have the best statistic season of all time (fuck Drew Brees he's a bad QB without his coach). Sure, Peyton's been good so far, but I'm pissed cause if his gay teammates hadn't quit on him I'd be even more right. Next, fuck that overrated piece of shit Andrew Luck. I predicted the team wouldn't win at all, but they shouldn't have. If the Colts had played this hard last year, there's no way they would have lost so many games, it has nothing at all do with Luck. And if they had played this hard when Peyton was there, they would have won 10 Superbowls minimum. Fuck Tom Brady.
Well said, but Luck is actually stepping up pretty well. The improvement of the Colts in general is diue to them doing what I said they should have done 8 years ago; beef up the team with tougher guys and tougher philosophies. The kind of the team that wouldn't bench starters on the path to 16-0.
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Well we're just about halfway to the end, and to be honest I more than anything just wanted to gloat a bit about what I said before the season.
One thing I was majorly wrong about was Bills pass rush, Reggie Wayne playng with any for, and the Pats o-line. And Tebow, but that's Rex just being stubborn.
Cam's been flopping as I said he would, but Luck has shown me a lot more grit as a rookie than I expected despite his mediocre numbers he shows up when it counts, RG3 is a shock to us all to be this good this early in his career. The Saints have crumbled like I expected.
And there's a guy who was cut after a few neck surgeries that everyone wondered if he could ever play at a pro level again. How's he doing?
Well he's at the half way point with the highest total QBR, and the #1 Passer Rating of 109, he's third in TD passes, second in yards per game, 5th in total yards (but a few of those guys ahead of him haven't hit a bye week yet), 4th in completion percentage. But the real quuestion was can he throw it long. Well he's ranked first in yards per attempt.
What did I say about him before the seaon?
Anyone that thinks 49 guys are going to have a better season than Peyton Manning next year is a complete idiot. I said it before and I'll say it again; he'll be in the MVP discussion by week 6. And by this time next year they'll be laughing at the thought of #50.
I was a little off since it took until week 8, but quote me on this, unless the Falcons go 16-0, by looking at the rest of the Broncos schedule they will not lose more than two games coming up and finish at least 11-5, aybe even 13-3, and he will got MVP votes trhis year if not outright win it, become the first player to ever win comeback player ofthe year and MVP in the same season and be th first starting QB, God willing, to win a ring with two different teams. (technically Jim McMahon has two rings with two teams)
Good stuff Shallow.. but I would like to see proof that you predicted Cam Newton's sophmore slump
Now what I'm saying is not a baseless argument, it's an outright prediction; barring a freak super year by another QB or a 2,200+ yard rushing season, Peyton Manning will be the first player ever to win Comeback Player of the Year and MVP in the same year. He's going to pick a team with a defense, an o-line, and a beast #1 WR and he's going to rival his best statistical year ever, if not beat it. And whatever team he picks will be at least 11-5
Cam newton will start slow, like he ended, and pick it up by mid-season and I can't see a season for the Panthers being better than 9-7. And probably less than 7-9. And Cam will not get a single MVP vote, and no one will say "Cam should be in the discussion. The next 2 or 3 years after next year maybe, but not next year.
Quote me on this mid season, and then again at the end of the season next year. Peyton will not get injured because of the surgery. If some freak ankle or knee injury happens I don't know, but it won't be because of a bad neck or a bad shoulder taking too much of a beating, like what happened with Favre.
Here you go brother. I highlighted the part that has so far come true.
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Pretty disappointing for half for my Hawks, could be better, could be worse, 4-4 ain't the worst place to be though. Luckily, we have an easier schedule in the second half as well as more home games, so we can still make a push for that wild card spot since the 9ers are looking too strong this year in our division.
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Pretty disappointing for half for my Hawks, could be better, could be worse, 4-4 ain't the worst place to be though. Luckily, we have an easier schedule in the second half as well as more home games, so we can still make a push for that wild card spot since the 9ers are looking too strong this year in our division.
at least you beat the Packers and Patriots :)
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Here you go brother. I highlighted the part that has so far come true.
Yep.. close enough.. I got to give credit where credit is do. And i'm too lazy right now but if you have a minute maybe you can pull up some of your Chiefs predictions for the season because I think those ended up being true for the most part.. ofcourse nobody could of predicted they would be THIS bad.
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Here you go brother. I highlighted the part that has so far come true.
Yep.. close enough.. I got to give credit where credit is do. And i'm too lazy right now but if you have a minute maybe you can pull up some of your Chiefs predictions for the season because I think those ended up being true for the most part.. ofcourse nobody could of predicted they would be THIS bad.
I can't remember my 2012 prediction for KC but I no I didn't think 1-6, and to lose so badly. But the problem as I see it is a complete lack of direction for offense. Cassel isn't sart enough to understandsituations at the speed needs to understand them. That sack fumble for instance. In that part of the game giving up 2 instead of 7 is crucial. It's one thing to role out, but a complete other thing to not place ball security above looking down the field. It's also another thing to not have a WR that can see the writing on the wall. Wes Welker recongizes the blitz breaks his rute and opens up for a short pass. The addition of Welker alone might have made the difference on a bunch of losses this season. And if there isn't a comple overhaul this year I wouldn't be shocked to see Pioli grab Welker for next season.
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I can't remember my 2012 prediction for KC but I no I didn't think 1-6, and to lose so badly. But the problem as I see it is a complete lack of direction for offense. Cassel isn't sart enough to understandsituations at the speed needs to understand them. That sack fumble for instance. In that part of the game giving up 2 instead of 7 is crucial. It's one thing to role out, but a complete other thing to not place ball security above looking down the field. It's also another thing to not have a WR that can see the writing on the wall. Wes Welker recongizes the blitz breaks his rute and opens up for a short pass. The addition of Welker alone might have made the difference on a bunch of losses this season. And if there isn't a comple overhaul this year I wouldn't be shocked to see Pioli grab Welker for next season.
The local media is of course in "fire everybody" mode. But Pioli would be the right man to try to convince Welker to come to KC. That would help Cassel out tremendously. Maybe I am being swayed to much by fan sentiment, but it appears that Pioli will be fired at the end of the season, along with Crennel, and that the Chiefs will be not only picking up a quality QB in the free agent market but also drafting a QB in the first round. For some reason all the fans here are convinced that Cassel is the problem.
My thinking is that firing Todd Haley is the problem. I mean last year we had even less talent then this year (no Jamal Charles, etc.) but Haley had us competitive week in and week out and we nearly finished .500 for the season. So if you essentially have the same team yet you are 6 games worse and HAVE NEVER LED IN A GAME THE ENTIRE SEASON, then you would have to put that on the head coach, would you not?
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Giants too high on that list. Cant get a lucky playoff run every year.
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top teams as of right meow
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Giants too high on that list. Cant get a lucky playoff run every year.
No other team is as mentally tough as the Giants. That isn't luck. They know that somehow someway they will find a way to win. I wouldn't pick against them in the big games
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top teams as of right meow
1-Giants
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5-Ravens
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7-Patriots
8-Broncos
9-Packers
10-Lions
Giants too high on that list. Cant get a lucky playoff run every year.
No other team is as mentally tough as the Giants. That isn't luck. They know that somehow someway they will find a way to win. I wouldn't pick against them in the big games
A dude catching a football on his helmet and Gronkowski getting a hobbling ankle injury all seem pretty lucky to me. Oh and not to mention a good returner fumbling a ball at the end of a game.
I see your point, but those things listed above are facts.
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Someone needs to check Andrew Luck. He doesn't deserve to be having this success. Peyton had to suffer through years of horrible teammates, on and off the field. What happened to the Colts? A conspiracy, that's what. They screwed Peyton and took years of his prime away.
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lol @ people who think injures are "luck" and not PART OF THE GAME
such a bad argument
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lol @ people who think injures are "luck" and not PART OF THE GAME
such a bad argument
of course theyre part of football
but having him hurt for the SB was some good good good timing (see "luck") for your Giants
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lol @ people who think injures are "luck" and not PART OF THE GAME
such a bad argument
of course theyre part of football
but having him hurt for the SB was some good good good timing (see "luck") for your Giants
1-ask would-be starter Terrell Thomas about Gronkowski's injury and see what HE says
2-then ask would-be starter Jonathan Goff about HIS 2011 season with the G Men and see if he feels bad for Gronk
3-Prince missed 9 games last year...he might envy Gronk too.
4-the Patriots can easily win games without Gronk in the lineup and making excuses for him is saying Tom Brady isn't a HOF quarterback
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lol @ people who think injures are "luck" and not PART OF THE GAME
such a bad argument
of course theyre part of football
but having him hurt for the SB was some good good good timing (see "luck") for your Giants
1-ask would-be starter Terrell Thomas about Gronkowski's injury and see what HE says
2-then ask would-be starter Jonathan Goff about HIS 2011 season with the G Men and see if he feels bad for Gronk
3-Prince missed 9 games last year...he might envy Gronk too.
4-the Patriots can easily win games without Gronk in the lineup and making excuses for him is saying Tom Brady isn't a HOF quarterback
hold up. so youre saying gronk being 15 percent of what he normally would be wasnt a lucky break for the giants, more so than the dudes youre talking about being out? cmon
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lol @ people who think injures are "luck" and not PART OF THE GAME
such a bad argument
of course theyre part of football
but having him hurt for the SB was some good good good timing (see "luck") for your Giants
1-ask would-be starter Terrell Thomas about Gronkowski's injury and see what HE says
2-then ask would-be starter Jonathan Goff about HIS 2011 season with the G Men and see if he feels bad for Gronk
3-Prince missed 9 games last year...he might envy Gronk too.
4-the Patriots can easily win games without Gronk in the lineup and making excuses for him is saying Tom Brady isn't a HOF quarterback
hold up. so youre saying gronk being 15 percent of what he normally would be wasnt a lucky break for the giants, more so than the dudes youre talking about being out? cmon
missing two starters for the entire season > having your DANCING TO LMFAO AFTER THE GAME ASS tight end being 85% healthy
you saying Brady can't win without one of his two elite tight ends? as if the Giants weren't missing their #1 tight end half the season :eh:
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lol @ people who think injures are "luck" and not PART OF THE GAME
such a bad argument
of course theyre part of football
but having him hurt for the SB was some good good good timing (see "luck") for your Giants
1-ask would-be starter Terrell Thomas about Gronkowski's injury and see what HE says
2-then ask would-be starter Jonathan Goff about HIS 2011 season with the G Men and see if he feels bad for Gronk
3-Prince missed 9 games last year...he might envy Gronk too.
4-the Patriots can easily win games without Gronk in the lineup and making excuses for him is saying Tom Brady isn't a HOF quarterback
hold up. so youre saying gronk being 15 percent of what he normally would be wasnt a lucky break for the giants, more so than the dudes youre talking about being out? cmon
missing two starters for the entire season > having your DANCING TO LMFAO AFTER THE GAME ASS tight end being 85% healthy
you saying Brady can't win without one of his two elite tight ends? as if the Giants weren't missing their #1 tight end half the season :eh:
I like how you didnt address my other points.
But back to gronk, he wasnt 85 percent. And, hernandez isnt half of what gronk is/was then. Elite? Meh. Of course Brady can win without them, he already did right? ;)
And really terrell thomas and prince are much more replaceable than gronkowski. Defensive players can be plugged into a good scheme whereas you arent getting gronk's offensive output from any other TE, yes including hernandez.
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top teams as of right meow
1-Giants
2-49ers
3-Falcons
4-Texans
5-Ravens
6-Bears
7-Patriots
8-Broncos
9-Packers
10-Lions
Giants too high on that list. Cant get a lucky playoff run every year.
No other team is as mentally tough as the Giants. That isn't luck. They know that somehow someway they will find a way to win. I wouldn't pick against them in the big games
A dude catching a football on his helmet and Gronkowski getting a hobbling ankle injury all seem pretty lucky to me. Oh and not to mention a good returner fumbling a ball at the end of a game.
I see your point, but those things listed above are facts.
You know what else is a fact? Holding the top scoring offense in the league to under 20 points twice in two Superbowl match ups. That's 14 and 17 points respectively. Nothing lucky about that.
and I've said this before the Pats were the beneficieries of more luck in there 3 SB wins than the Giants were in there two. It all started with a fumble, a refusal to run the ball with Marshsall, a last minute kick off out of bounds, and a QB suffering from the flu.
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top teams as of right meow
1-Giants
2-49ers
3-Falcons
4-Texans
5-Ravens
6-Bears
7-Patriots
8-Broncos
9-Packers
10-Lions
Giants too high on that list. Cant get a lucky playoff run every year.
No other team is as mentally tough as the Giants. That isn't luck. They know that somehow someway they will find a way to win. I wouldn't pick against them in the big games
A dude catching a football on his helmet and Gronkowski getting a hobbling ankle injury all seem pretty lucky to me. Oh and not to mention a good returner fumbling a ball at the end of a game.
I see your point, but those things listed above are facts.
You know what else is a fact? Holding the top scoring offense in the league to under 20 points twice in two Superbowl match ups. That's 14 and 17 points respectively. Nothing lucky about that.
and I've said this before the Pats were the beneficieries of more luck in there 3 SB wins than the Giants were in there two. It all started with a fumble, a refusal to run the ball with Marshsall, a last minute kick off out of bounds, and a QB suffering from the flu.
please you gloss over what i percieve as luck and come back with a qb had the sniffles
bottom line is, and stop me where im wrong, that the giants have been extremely lucky. whats so wrong with that?
their defense did a good job holding the pats, sure. but you cant argue my points.
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please you gloss over what i percieve as luck and come back with a qb had the sniffles
bottom line is, and stop me where im wrong, that the giants have been extremely lucky. whats so wrong with that?
their defense did a good job holding the pats, sure. but you cant argue my points.
Not as much as you glossed over the other facts I mentioned.
And yes I agree that the Giants offense has been very lucky in the both wins, but the Giants defense put the pressure on in both games and shut down the Pats offense twice. Of course I can't think of more than 1 playoff game Brady has looked good in since 2007 against the Jags. That one game was against the Broncos last year.
2007 against the Charges he played poorly. In the Superbowl he played mediocre at best. I 2009 against Baltimore he played like shit. In 2010 against the Jets he played almost as bad as the year before. And last year he played great against Denver but pretty bad against Baltimore and below average in the Superbowl. His entire career is legitimized by games the team won 9 years ago a nd longer; games that could have been won with Chad Pennington.
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please you gloss over what i percieve as luck and come back with a qb had the sniffles
bottom line is, and stop me where im wrong, that the giants have been extremely lucky. whats so wrong with that?
their defense did a good job holding the pats, sure. but you cant argue my points.
Not as much as you glossed over the other facts I mentioned.
And yes I agree that the Giants offense has been very lucky in the both wins, but the Giants defense put the pressure on in both games and shut down the Pats offense twice. Of course I can't think of more than 1 playoff game Brady has looked good in since 2007 against the Jags. That one game was against the Broncos last year.
2007 against the Charges he played poorly. In the Superbowl he played mediocre at best. I 2009 against Baltimore he played like shit. In 2010 against the Jets he played almost as bad as the year before. And last year he played great against Denver but pretty bad against Baltimore and below average in the Superbowl. His entire career is legitimized by games the team won 9 years ago a nd longer; games that could have been won with Chad Pennington.
damn u hate tom brady. do u really believe all that?
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please you gloss over what i percieve as luck and come back with a qb had the sniffles
bottom line is, and stop me where im wrong, that the giants have been extremely lucky. whats so wrong with that?
their defense did a good job holding the pats, sure. but you cant argue my points.
Not as much as you glossed over the other facts I mentioned.
And yes I agree that the Giants offense has been very lucky in the both wins, but the Giants defense put the pressure on in both games and shut down the Pats offense twice. Of course I can't think of more than 1 playoff game Brady has looked good in since 2007 against the Jags. That one game was against the Broncos last year.
2007 against the Charges he played poorly. In the Superbowl he played mediocre at best. I 2009 against Baltimore he played like shit. In 2010 against the Jets he played almost as bad as the year before. And last year he played great against Denver but pretty bad against Baltimore and below average in the Superbowl. His entire career is legitimized by games the team won 9 years ago a nd longer; games that could have been won with Chad Pennington.
damn u hate tom brady. do u really believe all that?
Ofcourse I believe that, but I think a lot highr of Chad than most people. He's one of the smartest QBs in any era and all the 01 to 04 Pats needed was a QB that wasn't mistake prone. In the first year they won by barely even throwing for 3,000 yards, and never hit 4,000 in any of the years, about a 60% completion percentage, and a 1.8 to 1 TD to INT ratio. Brady was a very mediocre QB. Since then he's become very good, and he hasn't won any rings. In the 01 playoffs the Pats D and ST had more TDs than Brady, and Bledsoe threw for just as many.
Watch those playoff games again, ou'll see very consertaive dink and dunk offense 90% of the time squezing out very close wins on the back of the defense and special teams. Pennington could have done that. He never would have been able to do what Brady did from 07 onwards, but zero rings all the same.
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Tom Brady is an overrated piece of shit. If Peyton had those teams they would have won 15 superbowls minimum.
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Tom Brady is an overrated piece of shit. If Peyton had those teams they would have won 15 superbowls minimum.
I'm starting to really like you.
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Giants > Pats w or w/o gronk. Its not luck when every time you meet the same team in a crucial game you beat em. Youre just better.
Wash year for my Titans. Just waitin to see what Jake does when he comes back.
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please you gloss over what i percieve as luck and come back with a qb had the sniffles
bottom line is, and stop me where im wrong, that the giants have been extremely lucky. whats so wrong with that?
their defense did a good job holding the pats, sure. but you cant argue my points.
Not as much as you glossed over the other facts I mentioned.
And yes I agree that the Giants offense has been very lucky in the both wins, but the Giants defense put the pressure on in both games and shut down the Pats offense twice. Of course I can't think of more than 1 playoff game Brady has looked good in since 2007 against the Jags. That one game was against the Broncos last year.
2007 against the Charges he played poorly. In the Superbowl he played mediocre at best. I 2009 against Baltimore he played like shit. In 2010 against the Jets he played almost as bad as the year before. And last year he played great against Denver but pretty bad against Baltimore and below average in the Superbowl. His entire career is legitimized by games the team won 9 years ago a nd longer; games that could have been won with Chad Pennington.
damn u hate tom brady. do u really believe all that?
Ofcourse I believe that, but I think a lot highr of Chad than most people. He's one of the smartest QBs in any era and all the 01 to 04 Pats needed was a QB that wasn't mistake prone. In the first year they won by barely even throwing for 3,000 yards, and never hit 4,000 in any of the years, about a 60% completion percentage, and a 1.8 to 1 TD to INT ratio. Brady was a very mediocre QB. Since then he's become very good, and he hasn't won any rings. In the 01 playoffs the Pats D and ST had more TDs than Brady, and Bledsoe threw for just as many.
Watch those playoff games again, ou'll see very consertaive dink and dunk offense 90% of the time squezing out very close wins on the back of the defense and special teams. Pennington could have done that. He never would have been able to do what Brady did from 07 onwards, but zero rings all the same.
So your argument is Brady was meh when he won his superbowls, then got good and cant win em, and chad penningtons a comparable qb that couldve replaced brady? uuuhhh..
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So your argument is Brady was meh when he won his superbowls, then got good and cant win em, and chad penningtons a comparable qb that couldve replaced brady? uuuhhh..
My argument is what it has always been; the QB may be the single most important player on the field, but nowhere near the deciding aspect to team wins and losses. Tom Brady is head and shoulders a better QB than he was in his first 4 years. This Tom Brady should rather easily have won the first 3 rings, and that Tom Brady probably wouldn't have won a playoff game with the current Pats. (except for the Denver game last year, and Tom couldn't have played much worse in the Ravens game, so who knows). The year the Colts won their ring, Peyton was only better than mediocre for one half out of four full games. Had the Colts played as well as they did in 06 for the 04, 05, 07, 08, 09, or 10 campaigns, and Peyton played exactly as he did in those years everyone would have had more rings in Indy than they currently do.
Teams win because teams win. Pennington could have won a ring with the 04 Pats, or the 05 Steelers just the same. The only time a QB change would affect a SB year is when the winning or losing team had to deal with exceptionally good or exceptionally bad QB play. Eli on last year's Niners and they win it all, and Pennington on the 09 Packers do not. But Tom, and Ben in 05, simply did not have to do all that much. I do not think Chad could have made the plays at the end needed for Pitt to beat Arizona, but I don't think Ben could have done it twice either. Stars aligned on that one.
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Giants > Pats w or w/o gronk. Its not luck when every time you meet the same team in a crucial game you beat em. Youre just better.
Wash year for my Titans. Just waitin to see what Jake does when he comes back.
good to see the Titans SQUISH THE FISH today
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I was at the game today, Jets suck lolz
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I would say that Brady raped the Jets D on thanksgiving.... ;)
Thought that couldnt be done.
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I would say that Brady raped the Jets D on thanksgiving.... ;)
Thought that couldnt be done.
1-no Revis
2-the only player on this team with heart is Landry
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I would say that Brady raped the Jets D on thanksgiving.... ;)
Thought that couldnt be done.
1-no Revis
2-the only player on this team with heart is Landry
injuries are just part of the game....right? haha
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but i do feel for ya, having disasterous seasons is something ive grown accustomed to recently with dallas
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I would say that Brady raped the Jets D on thanksgiving.... ;)
Thought that couldnt be done.
1-no Revis
2-the only player on this team with heart is Landry
injuries are just part of the game....right? haha
sure
but beating the Jets defense now is like beating the Bulls last year without D-Rose
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I would say that Brady raped the Jets D on thanksgiving.... ;)
Thought that couldnt be done.
1-no Revis
2-the only player on this team with heart is Landry
injuries are just part of the game....right? haha
sure
but beating the Jets defense now is like beating the Bulls last year without D-Rose
cmon maaan
the jets d is soft as cotonelle and brady still wouldve picked it apart.
so i guess the giants beating the pats in the sb with gronk hobbled like a mutha would be the same thing?
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with Revis it's a different game
and Gronk isn't the best player on his team, Revis is
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I would say that Brady raped the Jets D on thanksgiving.... ;)
Thought that couldnt be done.
1-no Revis
2-the only player on this team with heart is Landry
injuries are just part of the game....right? haha
sure
but beating the Jets defense now is like beating the Bulls last year without D-Rose
cmon maaan
the jets d is soft as cotonelle and brady still wouldve picked it apart.
so i guess the giants beating the pats in the sb with gronk hobbled like a mutha would be the same thing?
Please explain how Brady picked it apart this past week. It's shit like this that gets me riled up. What did Brady do the Jets D that half the starting QB in the NFL wouldn't have done the same way. A wide open RB in the flat runs 70 yards after the catch on a little dump pass, and then Edelman runs wide open down the field, to the point that a severely underthrown ball by Brady that the WR has to slow down for but still have enough space between himself and the DB to go untouched to the endzone.
I'll give Brady some credit for the first TD drive, but even then how the Jets leave Welker uncovered for the TD catch is beyond me.
It just angers me. irst the Brady fans would just use words like "he's a winner" and "has poise". Things you couldn't really argue. But now all of a sudden he has a Dan Marino arm, and is an OC on the field like Peyton. His arm at it's peak isn't even as good as post-surgery Peyton's arm, and as long as Tommy wears that wrist band he is not anywhere near an OC on the field. This is the same guy that had Randy Moss running open down the field in the SB and couldn't throw it far enough, and the same OC on the field that has twice now forgotten tht inentional grounding in the endzone is a safety.
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I would say that Brady raped the Jets D on thanksgiving.... ;)
Thought that couldnt be done.
1-no Revis
2-the only player on this team with heart is Landry
injuries are just part of the game....right? haha
sure
but beating the Jets defense now is like beating the Bulls last year without D-Rose
cmon maaan
the jets d is soft as cotonelle and brady still wouldve picked it apart.
so i guess the giants beating the pats in the sb with gronk hobbled like a mutha would be the same thing?
Please explain how Brady picked it apart this past week. It's shit like this that gets me riled up. What did Brady do the Jets D that half the starting QB in the NFL wouldn't have done the same way. A wide open RB in the flat runs 70 yards after the catch on a little dump pass, and then Edelman runs wide open down the field, to the point that a severely underthrown ball by Brady that the WR has to slow down for but still have enough space between himself and the DB to go untouched to the endzone.
I'll give Brady some credit for the first TD drive, but even then how the Jets leave Welker uncovered for the TD catch is beyond me.
It just angers me. irst the Brady fans would just use words like "he's a winner" and "has poise". Things you couldn't really argue. But now all of a sudden he has a Dan Marino arm, and is an OC on the field like Peyton. His arm at it's peak isn't even as good as post-surgery Peyton's arm, and as long as Tommy wears that wrist band he is not anywhere near an OC on the field. This is the same guy that had Randy Moss running open down the field in the SB and couldn't throw it far enough, and the same OC on the field that has twice now forgotten tht inentional grounding in the endzone is a safety.
Im not arguing with you about this, ive seen that go on too many times and its excruciating to even read.
Read this and take a deep breath already, jesus. This goes more toward the Giants-Pats back and forth that took place a while ago, but I just want to put a little context to this guy you claim is so overrated, by comparing him to someone who can do no wrong for a lot of sports fans (not necessarily you).
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison)
I know thats not king peyton but only eli, but the way you talk about brady and describe any and every cirumstance that seems to go his way as if these same things dont happen for other qbs and nfl players is nauseating. "Edleman had to slow down for a ball"....really? "Hes dan marino"....who said that? "a rb scores a td"....so what? The guy had FOUR TDS. FOUR. You arguing every little detail you perceive as somehow diminishing the fact he had FOUR TDS doesnt make a case for your argument, not at all. Fact - he was the QB who helped make the Jets D look silly. To act like Peyton Marino or Lil Eli throw every ball perfectly on target or are geniuses beyond mistakes makes me laugh. Give credit where its due. And im no Patriots fan by any stretch of the imagination.
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Im not arguing with you about this, ive seen that go on too many times and its excruciating to even read.
Read this and take a deep breath already, jesus. This goes more toward the Giants-Pats back and forth that took place a while ago, but I just want to put a little context to this guy you claim is so overrated, by comparing him to someone who can do no wrong for a lot of sports fans (not necessarily you).
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison)
I know thats not king peyton but only eli, but the way you talk about brady and describe any and every cirumstance that seems to go his way as if these same things dont happen for other qbs and nfl players is nauseating. "Edleman had to slow down for a ball"....really? "Hes dan marino"....who said that? "a rb scores a td"....so what? The guy had FOUR TDS. FOUR. You arguing every little detail you perceive as somehow diminishing the fact he had FOUR TDS doesnt make a case for your argument, not at all. Fact - he was the QB who helped make the Jets D look silly. To act like Peyton Marino or Lil Eli throw every ball perfectly on target or are geniuses beyond mistakes makes me laugh. Give credit where its due. And im no Patriots fan by any stretch of the imagination.
I never said Manning or anyone always throw an a perfect ball. When Wayne ran wide openfor the TD in the Colts SB win over the Bears; it was a safe lob by Manning to Wayne that was underthrown. I called it a plain and simple blown coverage by the Bears. To call it Peyton picking apart a defense is absurd. Peyton did not pick apart the Bears defense that day. He played a decent game but in the end itwas more about the Bears losing it than the Colts winning it. The best thing Peyton did in that game was hand the ball off.
All year I'm hearing Manning can't throw deep anymore but I've been seeing perfect shots 40 plus yards down the field to Thomas in stride; he threw another beauty yesterday. I hear debates in the league after week 8 about Rodgers vs Brady; who is the best QB right now. On ESPN the argument for Rodgers was the second best passer rating, and the argument for Brady was the second best QBR. Manning was first in both categories with by far the worser of the three offenses and no one wants to say it, an people are afraid to say it because the rings to match up.
But when I say he's head and shoulders better than every other QB playing in the game right now I mean it, and I don't have and sentimental reason for saying it. I'd say the same thing aout Jordan in the 90s, and I hated the Bulls and him. Peyton is as much better than the other QBs as Barry Sanders was better than the other RBs in the 90s. Manning vs Brady should be treated like Barry vs Emmit. The sad thing is that one day and you can already see the signs is because of numbers on paper Emmit will begin present a valid argument and you can already see it starting now, but anyone that watched them play easily knew better.
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Im not arguing with you about this, ive seen that go on too many times and its excruciating to even read.
Read this and take a deep breath already, jesus. This goes more toward the Giants-Pats back and forth that took place a while ago, but I just want to put a little context to this guy you claim is so overrated, by comparing him to someone who can do no wrong for a lot of sports fans (not necessarily you).
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison)
I know thats not king peyton but only eli, but the way you talk about brady and describe any and every cirumstance that seems to go his way as if these same things dont happen for other qbs and nfl players is nauseating. "Edleman had to slow down for a ball"....really? "Hes dan marino"....who said that? "a rb scores a td"....so what? The guy had FOUR TDS. FOUR. You arguing every little detail you perceive as somehow diminishing the fact he had FOUR TDS doesnt make a case for your argument, not at all. Fact - he was the QB who helped make the Jets D look silly. To act like Peyton Marino or Lil Eli throw every ball perfectly on target or are geniuses beyond mistakes makes me laugh. Give credit where its due. And im no Patriots fan by any stretch of the imagination.
I never said Manning or anyone always throw an a perfect ball. When Wayne ran wide openfor the TD in the Colts SB win over the Bears; it was a safe lob by Manning to Wayne that was underthrown. I called it a plain and simple blown coverage by the Bears. To call it Peyton picking apart a defense is absurd. Peyton did not pick apart the Bears defense that day. He played a decent game but in the end itwas more about the Bears losing it than the Colts winning it. The best thing Peyton did in that game was hand the ball off.
All year I'm hearing Manning can't throw deep anymore but I've been seeing perfect shots 40 plus yards down the field to Thomas in stride; he threw another beauty yesterday. I hear debates in the league after week 8 about Rodgers vs Brady; who is the best QB right now. On ESPN the argument for Rodgers was the second best passer rating, and the argument for Brady was the second best QBR. Manning was first in both categories with by far the worser of the three offenses and no one wants to say it, an people are afraid to say it because the rings to match up.
But when I say he's head and shoulders better than every other QB playing in the game right now I mean it, and I don't have and sentimental reason for saying it. I'd say the same thing aout Jordan in the 90s, and I hated the Bulls and him. Peyton is as much better than the other QBs as Barry Sanders was better than the other RBs in the 90s. Manning vs Brady should be treated like Barry vs Emmit. The sad thing is that one day and you can already see the signs is because of numbers on paper Emmit will begin present a valid argument and you can already see it starting now, but anyone that watched them play easily knew better.
1. Picking apart a defense doesnt always include breathtakingly perfect throws. Sometimes dink and dunking down the field as weve both spoke of with Brady and Manning will do the same job.
2. Im not saying Brady is a better QB than Peyton, or anyone really, but I dont think the hate toward Brady is warranted either. The guy is elite, no argument. And he, along with his teammates, made the Jets D look silly on Thanksgiving. If you dont wanna call that "picking it apart", ok fine. I will anyway.
3. I love the Emmitt vs Barry argument. As a cowboys fan who actually watched the games in the 90s and am old enough to remember a lot of it, I can say if I was picking the better or more freakish athelete, I'd be picking Barry. If I was picking a running back, I'd pick Emmitt, simply because theres no argument in the world that can dispute what he accomplished. And not just the rushing record (which is the main thorn Barry arguers use to stick in the side of Emmitt/Cowboy fans - "ah well Barry wouldve gotten the record if he played instead of retiring"). With Barry, its a lot of "what ifs". What if he didnt play on the shit ass lions? What if he had an O Line? You dont have to ask "What if" with Emmitt, you know. He was one of the toughest, smartest, well rounded, and the most accomplished RB ever in several aspects (either now or at one time). Undisputed. Note - you dont have to ask "what if" with Jordan, you knew who he was because of his play AND his accomplishments as a team.
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Im not arguing with you about this, ive seen that go on too many times and its excruciating to even read.
Read this and take a deep breath already, jesus. This goes more toward the Giants-Pats back and forth that took place a while ago, but I just want to put a little context to this guy you claim is so overrated, by comparing him to someone who can do no wrong for a lot of sports fans (not necessarily you).
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison)
I know thats not king peyton but only eli, but the way you talk about brady and describe any and every cirumstance that seems to go his way as if these same things dont happen for other qbs and nfl players is nauseating. "Edleman had to slow down for a ball"....really? "Hes dan marino"....who said that? "a rb scores a td"....so what? The guy had FOUR TDS. FOUR. You arguing every little detail you perceive as somehow diminishing the fact he had FOUR TDS doesnt make a case for your argument, not at all. Fact - he was the QB who helped make the Jets D look silly. To act like Peyton Marino or Lil Eli throw every ball perfectly on target or are geniuses beyond mistakes makes me laugh. Give credit where its due. And im no Patriots fan by any stretch of the imagination.
I never said Manning or anyone always throw an a perfect ball. When Wayne ran wide openfor the TD in the Colts SB win over the Bears; it was a safe lob by Manning to Wayne that was underthrown. I called it a plain and simple blown coverage by the Bears. To call it Peyton picking apart a defense is absurd. Peyton did not pick apart the Bears defense that day. He played a decent game but in the end itwas more about the Bears losing it than the Colts winning it. The best thing Peyton did in that game was hand the ball off.
All year I'm hearing Manning can't throw deep anymore but I've been seeing perfect shots 40 plus yards down the field to Thomas in stride; he threw another beauty yesterday. I hear debates in the league after week 8 about Rodgers vs Brady; who is the best QB right now. On ESPN the argument for Rodgers was the second best passer rating, and the argument for Brady was the second best QBR. Manning was first in both categories with by far the worser of the three offenses and no one wants to say it, an people are afraid to say it because the rings to match up.
But when I say he's head and shoulders better than every other QB playing in the game right now I mean it, and I don't have and sentimental reason for saying it. I'd say the same thing aout Jordan in the 90s, and I hated the Bulls and him. Peyton is as much better than the other QBs as Barry Sanders was better than the other RBs in the 90s. Manning vs Brady should be treated like Barry vs Emmit. The sad thing is that one day and you can already see the signs is because of numbers on paper Emmit will begin present a valid argument and you can already see it starting now, but anyone that watched them play easily knew better.
1. Picking apart a defense doesnt always include breathtakingly perfect throws. Sometimes dink and dunking down the field as weve both spoke of with Brady and Manning will do the same job.
2. Im not saying Brady is a better QB than Peyton, or anyone really, but I dont think the hate toward Brady is warranted either. The guy is elite, no argument. And he, along with his teammates, made the Jets D look silly on Thanksgiving. If you dont wanna call that "picking it apart", ok fine. I will anyway.
3. I love the Emmitt vs Barry argument. As a cowboys fan who actually watched the games in the 90s and am old enough to remember a lot of it, I can say if I was picking the better or more freakish athelete, I'd be picking Barry. If I was picking a running back, I'd pick Emmitt, simply because theres no argument in the world that can dispute what he accomplished. And not just the rushing record (which is the main thorn Barry arguers use to stick in the side of Emmitt/Cowboy fans - "ah well Barry wouldve gotten the record if he played instead of retiring"). With Barry, its a lot of "what ifs". What if he didnt play on the shit ass lions? What if he had an O Line? You dont have to ask "What if" with Emmitt, you know. He was one of the toughest, smartest, well rounded, and the most accomplished RB ever in several aspects (either now or at one time). Undisputed. Note - you dont have to ask "what if" with Jordan, you knew who he was because of his play AND his accomplishments as a team.
I'll frop the Emiit Barry argument because you're a Cowboys guy, but you can't pick apart something that breaks all by itself. It'snot just about amazing throws, it's about figuring out a defense and calling the right plays or audibles. But when a defense simple just crumbles like that it doesn't matter who the QB.
And the hate for Brady and the Pats iswarranted, because they kick teams when they are down, and keep kicking. It's no class. When Peyton had the Raiders dead what did he do? He just kept handing offthe ball. He had no reason to pad his stats and stick in their face. The Pats have been doing that eve since 07, and the God of Football has sent his prophet Eli to smite them. They are bad people and it makes me smile to watch them lose when it counts he most. They will walk away ringless again this year.
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Im not arguing with you about this, ive seen that go on too many times and its excruciating to even read.
Read this and take a deep breath already, jesus. This goes more toward the Giants-Pats back and forth that took place a while ago, but I just want to put a little context to this guy you claim is so overrated, by comparing him to someone who can do no wrong for a lot of sports fans (not necessarily you).
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison)
I know thats not king peyton but only eli, but the way you talk about brady and describe any and every cirumstance that seems to go his way as if these same things dont happen for other qbs and nfl players is nauseating. "Edleman had to slow down for a ball"....really? "Hes dan marino"....who said that? "a rb scores a td"....so what? The guy had FOUR TDS. FOUR. You arguing every little detail you perceive as somehow diminishing the fact he had FOUR TDS doesnt make a case for your argument, not at all. Fact - he was the QB who helped make the Jets D look silly. To act like Peyton Marino or Lil Eli throw every ball perfectly on target or are geniuses beyond mistakes makes me laugh. Give credit where its due. And im no Patriots fan by any stretch of the imagination.
I never said Manning or anyone always throw an a perfect ball. When Wayne ran wide openfor the TD in the Colts SB win over the Bears; it was a safe lob by Manning to Wayne that was underthrown. I called it a plain and simple blown coverage by the Bears. To call it Peyton picking apart a defense is absurd. Peyton did not pick apart the Bears defense that day. He played a decent game but in the end itwas more about the Bears losing it than the Colts winning it. The best thing Peyton did in that game was hand the ball off.
All year I'm hearing Manning can't throw deep anymore but I've been seeing perfect shots 40 plus yards down the field to Thomas in stride; he threw another beauty yesterday. I hear debates in the league after week 8 about Rodgers vs Brady; who is the best QB right now. On ESPN the argument for Rodgers was the second best passer rating, and the argument for Brady was the second best QBR. Manning was first in both categories with by far the worser of the three offenses and no one wants to say it, an people are afraid to say it because the rings to match up.
But when I say he's head and shoulders better than every other QB playing in the game right now I mean it, and I don't have and sentimental reason for saying it. I'd say the same thing aout Jordan in the 90s, and I hated the Bulls and him. Peyton is as much better than the other QBs as Barry Sanders was better than the other RBs in the 90s. Manning vs Brady should be treated like Barry vs Emmit. The sad thing is that one day and you can already see the signs is because of numbers on paper Emmit will begin present a valid argument and you can already see it starting now, but anyone that watched them play easily knew better.
1. Picking apart a defense doesnt always include breathtakingly perfect throws. Sometimes dink and dunking down the field as weve both spoke of with Brady and Manning will do the same job.
2. Im not saying Brady is a better QB than Peyton, or anyone really, but I dont think the hate toward Brady is warranted either. The guy is elite, no argument. And he, along with his teammates, made the Jets D look silly on Thanksgiving. If you dont wanna call that "picking it apart", ok fine. I will anyway.
Tom Brady is not elite and its not debatable. If you think about it logically, Chad Pennington is every bit as good as Tom Brady. The fact that you want to mention Brady in the same breath as a god like Peyton is blasphemous.
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Im not arguing with you about this, ive seen that go on too many times and its excruciating to even read.
Read this and take a deep breath already, jesus. This goes more toward the Giants-Pats back and forth that took place a while ago, but I just want to put a little context to this guy you claim is so overrated, by comparing him to someone who can do no wrong for a lot of sports fans (not necessarily you).
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison)
I know thats not king peyton but only eli, but the way you talk about brady and describe any and every cirumstance that seems to go his way as if these same things dont happen for other qbs and nfl players is nauseating. "Edleman had to slow down for a ball"....really? "Hes dan marino"....who said that? "a rb scores a td"....so what? The guy had FOUR TDS. FOUR. You arguing every little detail you perceive as somehow diminishing the fact he had FOUR TDS doesnt make a case for your argument, not at all. Fact - he was the QB who helped make the Jets D look silly. To act like Peyton Marino or Lil Eli throw every ball perfectly on target or are geniuses beyond mistakes makes me laugh. Give credit where its due. And im no Patriots fan by any stretch of the imagination.
I never said Manning or anyone always throw an a perfect ball. When Wayne ran wide openfor the TD in the Colts SB win over the Bears; it was a safe lob by Manning to Wayne that was underthrown. I called it a plain and simple blown coverage by the Bears. To call it Peyton picking apart a defense is absurd. Peyton did not pick apart the Bears defense that day. He played a decent game but in the end itwas more about the Bears losing it than the Colts winning it. The best thing Peyton did in that game was hand the ball off.
All year I'm hearing Manning can't throw deep anymore but I've been seeing perfect shots 40 plus yards down the field to Thomas in stride; he threw another beauty yesterday. I hear debates in the league after week 8 about Rodgers vs Brady; who is the best QB right now. On ESPN the argument for Rodgers was the second best passer rating, and the argument for Brady was the second best QBR. Manning was first in both categories with by far the worser of the three offenses and no one wants to say it, an people are afraid to say it because the rings to match up.
But when I say he's head and shoulders better than every other QB playing in the game right now I mean it, and I don't have and sentimental reason for saying it. I'd say the same thing aout Jordan in the 90s, and I hated the Bulls and him. Peyton is as much better than the other QBs as Barry Sanders was better than the other RBs in the 90s. Manning vs Brady should be treated like Barry vs Emmit. The sad thing is that one day and you can already see the signs is because of numbers on paper Emmit will begin present a valid argument and you can already see it starting now, but anyone that watched them play easily knew better.
1. Picking apart a defense doesnt always include breathtakingly perfect throws. Sometimes dink and dunking down the field as weve both spoke of with Brady and Manning will do the same job.
2. Im not saying Brady is a better QB than Peyton, or anyone really, but I dont think the hate toward Brady is warranted either. The guy is elite, no argument. And he, along with his teammates, made the Jets D look silly on Thanksgiving. If you dont wanna call that "picking it apart", ok fine. I will anyway.
Tom Brady is not elite and its not debatable. If you think about it logically, Chad Pennington is every bit as good as Tom Brady. The fact that you want to mention Brady in the same breath as a god like Peyton is blasphemous.
Thank God you showed up. Remember, all thanks to Pennington the 1-15 Dolphins went 11-5. So it's safe to say Pennington is actually better than Princess Tombelina, whose first born son has his mother's maiden name. Antonio Cromartie has like 25 kids, doesn't even know half their names, but each and everyone one of them have the last name Cromartie.
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Im not arguing with you about this, ive seen that go on too many times and its excruciating to even read.
Read this and take a deep breath already, jesus. This goes more toward the Giants-Pats back and forth that took place a while ago, but I just want to put a little context to this guy you claim is so overrated, by comparing him to someone who can do no wrong for a lot of sports fans (not necessarily you).
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-02/super-bowl-2012-eli-manning-tom-brady-qb-comparison)
I know thats not king peyton but only eli, but the way you talk about brady and describe any and every cirumstance that seems to go his way as if these same things dont happen for other qbs and nfl players is nauseating. "Edleman had to slow down for a ball"....really? "Hes dan marino"....who said that? "a rb scores a td"....so what? The guy had FOUR TDS. FOUR. You arguing every little detail you perceive as somehow diminishing the fact he had FOUR TDS doesnt make a case for your argument, not at all. Fact - he was the QB who helped make the Jets D look silly. To act like Peyton Marino or Lil Eli throw every ball perfectly on target or are geniuses beyond mistakes makes me laugh. Give credit where its due. And im no Patriots fan by any stretch of the imagination.
I never said Manning or anyone always throw an a perfect ball. When Wayne ran wide openfor the TD in the Colts SB win over the Bears; it was a safe lob by Manning to Wayne that was underthrown. I called it a plain and simple blown coverage by the Bears. To call it Peyton picking apart a defense is absurd. Peyton did not pick apart the Bears defense that day. He played a decent game but in the end itwas more about the Bears losing it than the Colts winning it. The best thing Peyton did in that game was hand the ball off.
All year I'm hearing Manning can't throw deep anymore but I've been seeing perfect shots 40 plus yards down the field to Thomas in stride; he threw another beauty yesterday. I hear debates in the league after week 8 about Rodgers vs Brady; who is the best QB right now. On ESPN the argument for Rodgers was the second best passer rating, and the argument for Brady was the second best QBR. Manning was first in both categories with by far the worser of the three offenses and no one wants to say it, an people are afraid to say it because the rings to match up.
But when I say he's head and shoulders better than every other QB playing in the game right now I mean it, and I don't have and sentimental reason for saying it. I'd say the same thing aout Jordan in the 90s, and I hated the Bulls and him. Peyton is as much better than the other QBs as Barry Sanders was better than the other RBs in the 90s. Manning vs Brady should be treated like Barry vs Emmit. The sad thing is that one day and you can already see the signs is because of numbers on paper Emmit will begin present a valid argument and you can already see it starting now, but anyone that watched them play easily knew better.
1. Picking apart a defense doesnt always include breathtakingly perfect throws. Sometimes dink and dunking down the field as weve both spoke of with Brady and Manning will do the same job.
2. Im not saying Brady is a better QB than Peyton, or anyone really, but I dont think the hate toward Brady is warranted either. The guy is elite, no argument. And he, along with his teammates, made the Jets D look silly on Thanksgiving. If you dont wanna call that "picking it apart", ok fine. I will anyway.
Tom Brady is not elite and its not debatable. If you think about it logically, Chad Pennington is every bit as good as Tom Brady. The fact that you want to mention Brady in the same breath as a god like Peyton is blasphemous.
lmao
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And things even went worse for the Jets. So much that Fireman Ed is done with the team for the rest of the season. He'll still go to the games but won't be wearing the fireman helmet or going as fireman ed cause of other fans behavior towards him for wearing Mark Sanchez's jersey. It would just be easier if he just be a giants fan. Oh wait, the giants got a 100,000 waiting list. Honestly, like the fraudgers the jets need to clean house. Only untouchables on the team is revis & mangold. Play the 3rd string player. If they keep sanchez, no more passing 40+ times. Tebow must be traded. Why he chose that circus is beyond me ??? Maybe trade Bart Scott to the lions. They need veteran players on defense.
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Stop talking about the Jets. ESPN Radio just talks about them all day. I'm sick of hearing about them. They just suck.
Anyway, 49ers are a Superbowl lock. Book it.
49ers/Brady.
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Stop talking about the Jets. ESPN Radio just talks about them all day. I'm sick of hearing about them. They just suck.
Anyway, 49ers are a Superbowl lock. Book it.
49ers/Brady.
I don't think anyone is a lock anywhere this January, but if the Broncos get the #2 seed they're going to the Superbowl. The only team that can win in NE for the Wildcard game is a healty Steelers, but a guy like haley needs a star leader QB to be effective so unless they can get Warner out of retirement they need Ben healthy. That being said, I'm officially starting the Brett Favre rumours now. No other AFC Wildcard team has a chance at making it out of the Wildcard round. Th divisional playoff week in the AFC is a coin toss.
For the NFC the Bears can beat anyone at home, but on the road they only have a chance against ATL, so for the Bears they better hope they get the #2 seed. The Giants can beat anyone aywhere and to a lesser extent so can the Packers.
If it does turn out to be Niners and Pats then the Nines will wn a close, low scoring game. That pass rush will destroy Brady but Bill will forcea lo of mistakes from Kap, and I wouldn'tbe surprised if Alex Smith gets in the game by the end after 2 or 3 picks by Colin.
If the Broncos make it out of the AFC Manning will eat up any NFC defense he faces. The way they are playing now I can't see the Broncos losing to anyone at home in January, or losing in Houston, but if they have to travel to NE the better hope McGahee is back and running with rage, because the finesse pass game will get beat up in the cold weather and the Denver Tampa 2 will miss too many tackles agaist the screen game of the Pats.
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Stop talking about the Jets. ESPN Radio just talks about them all day. I'm sick of hearing about them. They just suck.
Anyway, 49ers are a Superbowl lock. Book it.
49ers/Brady.
4give me CC, i've been corrupted by ESPN. Plus I wondered what mr. wilson thinks about that. I'm tired of hearing about them & Tebow. I do feel the same way about the media always giving the overrated multiple time NFC paper champions since the 90's the eagles. Acting like they're always gonna win the SB. And everytime the media gets smart & not consider them SB worthy they :'( & :boohoo: about not getting any respect. Then of course they prove me & the smart critics right by choking & disappointing.
I don't think anyone is a lock anywhere this January, but if the Broncos get the #2 seed they're going to the Superbowl. The only team that can win in NE for the Wildcard game is a healty Steelers, but a guy like haley needs a star leader QB to be effective so unless they can get Warner out of retirement they need Ben healthy. That being said, I'm officially starting the Brett Favre rumours now. No other AFC Wildcard team has a chance at making it out of the Wildcard round. Th divisional playoff week in the AFC is a coin toss.
For the NFC the Bears can beat anyone at home, but on the road they only have a chance against ATL, so for the Bears they better hope they get the #2 seed. The Giants can beat anyone aywhere and to a lesser extent so can the Packers.
If it does turn out to be Niners and Pats then the Nines will wn a close, low scoring game. That pass rush will destroy Brady but Bill will forcea lo of mistakes from Kap, and I wouldn'tbe surprised if Alex Smith gets in the game by the end after 2 or 3 picks by Colin.
If the Broncos make it out of the AFC Manning will eat up any NFC defense he faces. The way they are playing now I can't see the Broncos losing to anyone at home in January, or losing in Houston, but if they have to travel to NE the better hope McGahee is back and running with rage, because the finesse pass game will get beat up in the cold weather and the Denver Tampa 2 will miss too many tackles agaist the screen game of the Pats.
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The donkeys will lose at houston. Heck, the texans whooped them in mile high. Peyton will wish he had chosen Frisco instead of chasing extra millions with denver.
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Stop talking about the Jets. ESPN Radio just talks about them all day. I'm sick of hearing about them. They just suck.
Anyway, 49ers are a Superbowl lock. Book it.
49ers/Brady.
4give me CC, i've been corrupted by ESPN. Plus I wondered what mr. wilson thinks about that. I'm tired of hearing about them & Tebow. I do feel the same way about the media always giving the overrated multiple time NFC paper champions since the 90's the eagles. Acting like they're always gonna win the SB. And everytime the media gets smart & not consider them SB worthy they :'( & :boohoo: about not getting any respect. Then of course they prove me & the smart critics right by choking & disappointing.
I don't think anyone is a lock anywhere this January, but if the Broncos get the #2 seed they're going to the Superbowl. The only team that can win in NE for the Wildcard game is a healty Steelers, but a guy like haley needs a star leader QB to be effective so unless they can get Warner out of retirement they need Ben healthy. That being said, I'm officially starting the Brett Favre rumours now. No other AFC Wildcard team has a chance at making it out of the Wildcard round. Th divisional playoff week in the AFC is a coin toss.
For the NFC the Bears can beat anyone at home, but on the road they only have a chance against ATL, so for the Bears they better hope they get the #2 seed. The Giants can beat anyone aywhere and to a lesser extent so can the Packers.
If it does turn out to be Niners and Pats then the Nines will wn a close, low scoring game. That pass rush will destroy Brady but Bill will forcea lo of mistakes from Kap, and I wouldn'tbe surprised if Alex Smith gets in the game by the end after 2 or 3 picks by Colin.
If the Broncos make it out of the AFC Manning will eat up any NFC defense he faces. The way they are playing now I can't see the Broncos losing to anyone at home in January, or losing in Houston, but if they have to travel to NE the better hope McGahee is back and running with rage, because the finesse pass game will get beat up in the cold weather and the Denver Tampa 2 will miss too many tackles agaist the screen game of the Pats.
The donkeys will lose at houston. Heck, the texans whooped them in mile high. Peyton will wish he had chosen Frisco instead of chasing extra millions with denver.
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It's a different Denver team than they were early in the season, and both sides of the ball will only be clicking more by January. If they have to travel to NE I see them losing. They may even lose to NE in Denver. But the Pats are the only team that can beat them in January. I don't see Houston making it out of the divisional if Denver gets the #2. Either Baltimore, NE, or a healthy Pitt will all go into Houston and win. Unless somehow Cinci or Indy get past the wildcard.