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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: DIGGLAH on November 05, 2012, 02:04:24 AM

Title: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: DIGGLAH on November 05, 2012, 02:04:24 AM
He's one of the best lyricists in the biz. But his album contained no "Heatrocks". It was like listening to an old Pharcyde album, or Tribe Called Quest album fillers. This is why you won't see him blow to Eminem, Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent status. Because his album did NOT have a couple crossover "Bangers".

They even hid the MC Eiht collab on the back of another track and that was the only "signature westcoast banger" on the whole CD. Dre only put Eiht on the album so he wasn't the only old citizen on the album looking like he's trying to stay relevant.

It's a great album to chill and smoke too, but given a few months, it won't sit amongst the classics because there's no smash hit records on it.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Gamestarr on November 05, 2012, 03:21:57 AM
I hate these kinda threads. This is an opinion on the Kendrick album then post it in the fuckin GKMC discussion thread.


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Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Will_B on November 05, 2012, 03:41:33 AM
I agree but like Pharcyde, Kendrick got a big following still.

I'm still undecided on GKMC, it's a very very well crafted album but like you said, there's no standout bangers on there. But it do got really intricately constructed songs.

It's a 7 - 7.5/10 album for me.

There are better albums out there, but Kendricks is getting all the eHype it seems now


Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: OG Snoopaveli on November 05, 2012, 04:22:46 AM
I hate these kinda threads. This is an opinion on the Kendrick album then post it in the fuckin GKMC discussion thread.


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yep thats what u can call "haters move"
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: HighEyeCue on November 05, 2012, 04:31:44 AM
it's not really an album with many commercial tracks so its a little different in that aspect...also I remember when Doggystyle came out there was a mixed reaction on it being classic
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Undisputed on November 05, 2012, 09:23:21 AM
I give kendricks album a 7 out of 10 not a classic. You wont catch me bumpin in my ride though.Too many kids bumping this shit.Cant be a follower.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: calihoodsta00 on November 05, 2012, 02:54:55 PM
Whoever posted this shit is dumb as fuck like jay-z said.... "Do you fools listen to music or do you just skip thru it" Kendrick Lama's album was a concept album that's what made it so brilliant & a instant classic the Westcoast not used to shit like this I stay in Compton I've heard crip n blood niggas bumping this shit n there ride even some Mexican cats was bumping gkmc so his music his making a impact. So for an intelligent MC like Kendrick who's kicking knowledge to make that kind of impact it just shows you how special this dude really is & the scary part is he's still hasn't put out his best shit yet. Gkmc was a concept album damn it was hip hop story telling at it's best period. This album is our generations illmatic it will make that kind of impact, it already is & the fact that its selling case closed. Niggas still stuck in the 90s n shit niggas always hate the evolution of shit. All the rave reviews calling Gkmc an instant classic is dead on. "Real people want real music the jig is up"
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chro
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on November 05, 2012, 03:08:57 PM
2pacalypse Now was the best west coast debut  8)
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Black Excellence on November 05, 2012, 03:28:56 PM
I give kendricks album a 7 out of 10 not a classic. You wont catch me bumpin in my ride though.Too many kids bumping this shit.Cant be a follower.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on November 05, 2012, 07:58:25 PM
I give kendricks album a 7 out of 10 not a classic. You wont catch me bumpin in my ride though.Too many kids bumping this shit.Cant be a follower.
You're a complete fucking retard for this post. Anything you say or do afterwords isn't just suspect it's a Class A Felony. You're seriously gonna tell me you wouldn't bump a record because other people are? Just kill yourself dog.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 05, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
I think you have to be a fucking retard to act like any album coming out after the early 2000's would compare in terms of impact. It's kind of like white rappers now can be as dope as they want to be, but they'll never amount to when Eminem came in & took over the game. There will never be another piece of music from the West Coast that you nostalgic people would allow your close minded brains to even categorize along with something prior to 1999. The sooner you realize that the better.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: KrazySumwhat on November 05, 2012, 09:15:34 PM
 I agree with this thread to an extent. Its a great album that iam enjoying but no way dose or will it have the same impact as Doggystyle, chronic, illmatic, six feet deep, 36 chambers, etc, etc, etc ,etc, etc, etc.
 But it is a different era and iam at a very different age so...
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: jonathandubcnn on November 05, 2012, 10:03:00 PM
Kendrick Lamars album is a "classic" album in every since of the word.  It's A+ all across the board. 
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: dubsmith_nz on November 05, 2012, 11:47:42 PM
Lol at saying it's not a classic cos it sounds like Tribe and Pharcyde, groups who themselves have made classic albums. The retards are really coming out in force since this album dropped.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: West Coast Veteran on November 06, 2012, 01:35:03 AM
"Swimming Pools" is #32 on the Billboard Top 40. That's a crossover hit.

 Since when was it necessary for a classic to have a "smash hit record"? I guess AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted isn't a classic debut because it had no "smash hit records".  ::)
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: MistaNova on November 06, 2012, 02:00:47 AM
Just because a rapper from the west coast is dropping an album doesn't mean he needs to have any smash hit records or west coast bangers on it.
By the time rappers release their debut album they've already established their own style and have their own following. K Dot's no different. And his style isn't rapping lyrics over G-Funk beats from the 90's or sonic boom beats from the 00's and his following isn't expecting to do it either.
In fact none of the new rappers sound like that so it's impossible to be able compare an album that just dropped like a month ago to one that dropped over a decade ago.

Anyway you don't need to make crossover music to thrive in the music business. You just have to sell your soul to the illuminati, just as Jay-Z.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Undisputed on November 06, 2012, 02:01:47 AM
I give kendricks album a 7 out of 10 not a classic. You wont catch me bumpin in my ride though.Too many kids bumping this shit.Cant be a follower.
You're a complete fucking retard for this post. Anything you say or do afterwords isn't just suspect it's a Class A Felony. You're seriously gonna tell me you wouldn't bump a record because other people are? Just kill yourself dog.
Last week they were bumping lil wayne.This week theyre bumping kendrick. I for one cant be affiliated in any shape form or fashion.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: DJ SUGAFREE QUIK on November 06, 2012, 03:02:33 AM
Thread starter is probably Shyne in disguise.  I haven't paid attention that much to music in months.  Never heard of Kendrick Lamar or knew what he looked like but I heard his album & it was very good.  No song on there worth deleting at all.  Never said that about an album since faith evans keep the faith album.  All good songs on there.  I liked that the stuff that's considered interlude parts are just at the end of the song instead of being unnecessary filler interlude tracks.  I had 2 hear it when shyne dissed the album.  Maybe he was high when he listened to the album.  If I could afford to, i'd buy the album.  Worth getting!
I agree with this thread to an extent. Its a great album that iam enjoying but no way dose or will it have the same impact as Doggystyle, chronic, illmatic, six feet deep, 36 chambers, etc, etc, etc ,etc, etc, etc.
 But it is a different era and iam at a very different age so...
Different era & time & age, exactly.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: HighEyeCue on November 06, 2012, 05:23:55 AM
The Chronic was probably the first "hardcore" rap album to crossover into the mainstream with hit singles, after that rappers tried to follow that same forumula...I don't know if Kendrick's album has any tracks that are capable of doing that but time will tell
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: UCC on November 06, 2012, 09:20:56 AM
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Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic

That's not really saying much though because most albums are weak compared to Doggystyle and the Chronic...
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on November 06, 2012, 10:35:39 AM
I give kendricks album a 7 out of 10 not a classic. You wont catch me bumpin in my ride though.Too many kids bumping this shit.Cant be a follower.
You're a complete fucking retard for this post. Anything you say or do afterwords isn't just suspect it's a Class A Felony. You're seriously gonna tell me you wouldn't bump a record because other people are? Just kill yourself dog.
Last week they were bumping lil wayne.This week theyre bumping kendrick. I for one cant be affiliated in any shape form or fashion.


I listen to what ever the fuck I want fuck what the other man is listening too, if I'm listening to Kendrick  and them fags as u describe are only listening to him because he's this weeks flavor, I'm still gonna listen to him and I'm gonna listen 2 him even after they move on. Cause at the end of the day I listen 2 music for my own enjoyment.


The Chronic was probably the first "hardcore" rap album to crossover into the mainstream with hit singles, after that rappers tried to follow that same forumula...I don't know if Kendrick's album has any tracks that are capable of doing that but time will tell
That's Because The Chronic pushed rap into the Mainstream, as much as N.W.A and earlier Ice Cube albums were critically acclaimed and high selling, they didn't get no real love from the Radio (Despite rerecording radio versions, which IMO Suck ass seriously look up DOPEMAN Radio Edit wtf). The Chronic was only given Radio play because the sound was really mainstream (being a Funk Derived)
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: HighEyeCue on November 07, 2012, 07:34:57 AM
also "Express Yourself" got some video play on MTV rap shows but I don't specifically remember any radio play
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: donfathaimmortal on November 07, 2012, 07:59:22 AM
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Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic

That's not really saying much though because most albums are weak compared to Doggystyle and the Chronic...

Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Sccit on November 14, 2012, 03:30:16 PM
Whoever posted this shit is dumb as fuck like jay-z said.... "Do you fools listen to music or do you just skip thru it"


lmao.. the irony in this post is some of the greatest in dubcc history
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: b.laden on November 14, 2012, 04:05:09 PM
it's not really an album with many commercial tracks so its a little different in that aspect...also I remember when Doggystyle came out there was a mixed reaction on it being classic
yeah when doggystyle came out, lot of people considered it  too commercial ..
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: donfathaimmortal on November 15, 2012, 02:10:07 AM
it's not really an album with many commercial tracks so its a little different in that aspect...also I remember when Doggystyle came out there was a mixed reaction on it being classic
yeah when doggystyle came out, lot of people considered it  too commercial ..


yeah, this album was similar to "The Chronic", over this "Dre" productions. Dogg Food was way better, more creative. Hopefully, The Lady Of Rage didn't come out.
About your Kendick Liar album, it's a piece of ishh.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: midwestryder on November 15, 2012, 03:09:45 AM
it's not really an album with many commercial tracks so its a little different in that aspect...also I remember when Doggystyle came out there was a mixed reaction on it being classic
yeah when doggystyle came out, lot of people considered it  too commercial ..


yeah, this album was similar to "The Chronic", over this "Dre" productions. Dogg Food was way better, more creative. Hopefully, The Lady Of Rage didn't come out.
About your Kendick Liar album, it's a piece of ishh.
one it is kendrick lamar not kendrick liar,dumbass. the album is dope as hell & is not piece of shit like you ,hater
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: doggfather on November 15, 2012, 03:12:32 AM
Dogg Food was way better, more creative.

just kiddin right?!

chronic was something to "finding the right way", doggystye is a masterpiece, dogg food is the same formula for the underground nuthin more.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Will_B on November 15, 2012, 05:03:32 AM
Dogg Food was way better, more creative.

just kiddin right?!

chronic was something to "finding the right way", doggystye is a masterpiece, dogg food is the same formula for the underground nuthin more.

Chronic is better (just) than Doggystyle and Dogg Food, which I'd rate as equally good
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: BlueSwan on November 15, 2012, 06:40:06 AM
It is a stone cold classic. SMH @ anyone rating this below 8/10. Best hip-hop album in six years.

And for ONCE, the "hit single" on the album ("Swimming Pools") is NOT a mindless club banger, it is NOT a cheesy radio cut, it is NOT a lame "song for the ladies". It is a lyrical, deep, classic hip-hop single. Can't we all atleast appreciate that.
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: Will_B on November 15, 2012, 07:01:31 AM
It is a stone cold classic. SMH @ anyone rating this below 8/10. Best hip-hop album in six years.

Its neither. I'd only give it 7.5/10

AND Nas' Nigger album and Roots Undun (off the dome) are better, and they only came out in last 4 years...hell Undun is just under a year old

Kendrick is great but it ain't classic/masterpiece status fam. It's great he's gettin his limelight as a newer artist, but people be trippin
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: southcentralLA on November 18, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
Album is farrr from weak.  I respect the young dude for doing REAL hip hop in this day and age of bullshit rap about materials over the same ole lex luger trap beat.....GKMC 1 of the best albums I've heard in years, to be honest I rank Section 80 over GKMC.  I got Section 80 9.5 GKMC 9......I fucks with all Top Dawg ENT shit Black HiiiPPy is them dudes.  I'm still banging Soul's Control System I have that ranked high for release of the year.....
Title: Re: Kendrick Lamars album was WEAK when compared to debuts like Doggystyle, Chronic
Post by: thegooddoc on November 18, 2012, 07:07:04 PM
I have to admit  I was disappointed with this album.  Probably unfair to Kendrick, because my expectations were so high. I don't think the album sucks or was terrible, but I thought that with Dre behind him they would put out a better album.  The good news is that this is only his first of many albums, and he still has time to improve.