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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: iDontTrip on December 24, 2012, 02:36:11 PM
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forgottin?...i mean yea i know majority of the board would put death row over ruthless any day but all yall know Eazy E is forgottin like a muhfu***
why yall think he is?...
i mean he should be up there wit Ice Cube and Dr Dre as far as recognition goes.....its like he didnt exist after NWA split up...ppl dont even know he put Bone on the map, one of the top selling hip hop groups ever...lol yeeeaa somethin aint rite here :laugh:
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people support and recognize the fake more than the real. it seems.
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people support and recognize the fake more than the real. it seems.
False.
But as far as Eazy goes, I've asked this question time and time again. Something about his after transition just doesnt seem right. I feel like theres a true need for an Explaination
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people support and recognize the fake more than the real. it seems.
False.
But as far as Eazy goes, I've asked this question time and time again. Something about his after transition just doesnt seem right. I feel like theres a true need for an Explaination
it's true. even today the mentality is fucked up. ask anybody on here who's the king of the west coast and see what they say. most won't say eazy even though he is.
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It bugs me as well. I think the main reason is that he was The Company. When he died there was a vacuum at the top of Ruthless. No one to handle the day-to-day operations or who wanted to handle the company with the shape it was left in. Eazy knew how to market and understood his audience. When Pac and Biggie died they had people at the top, Suge and Puffy, who, for better or worse, could continue to market their existing and new material and keep their artist relevant. I still think that Puffy wouldn't have had a career if Biggie was alive today.
Secondly, I think alot of the mainstream rap fans, thought it was cool to diss on Eazy because of the way he was portrayed by The Chronic and Death Row at that time. It was only after Death Row began falling apart did those mainstream rap fans find out what Eazy and hard core west coast rap fans knew, "Dre Day only meant Eazy's pay day."
I do see that there is a new generation of Eazy's family and artists that are getting the movement for "continuing the saga" It feels like a grassroots effort. Between them, the documentary from EazyE-CPT.com and the N.W.A. movie, Eazy-E and his legacy should finally get noticed and recognized by mainstream hip-hop for what he started.
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Because he died when these youn fans where still listening to the "mini pops"...
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Because he died when these youn fans where still listening to the "mini pops"...
Pac died only a year after...and EVERYBODY knws Pac....even lil kids..ask em who eazy is, they'll be like ??? ???
did pac "contribute" more to the Westcoast rap scene or even rap scene in general then Eazy E did?.....hmmm..
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people support and recognize the fake more than the real. it seems.
False.
But as far as Eazy goes, I've asked this question time and time again. Something about his after transition just doesnt seem right. I feel like theres a true need for an Explaination
it's true. even today the mentality is fucked up. ask anybody on here who's the king of the west coast and see what they say. most won't say eazy even though he is.
youre just too much of a negative thinker in the broad scheme of things.
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Because he died when these youn fans where still listening to the "mini pops"...
Pac died only a year after...and EVERYBODY knws Pac....even lil kids..ask em who eazy is, they'll be like ??? ???
did pac "contribute" more to the Westcoast rap scene or even rap scene in general then Eazy E did?.....hmmm..
i think its more like 65-35 [Eazy]. Becuz without Eazy there may not have been a Pac that we ended up with. But at the same time i think Pac wouldve dwelled in that lane eventually. He was just too trill.
If Eazy woulda stuck around him and Pac probably woulda made a "Dre Day part 2" lol.
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people support and recognize the fake more than the real. it seems.
False.
But as far as Eazy goes, I've asked this question time and time again. Something about his after transition just doesnt seem right. I feel like theres a true need for an Explaination
it's true. even today the mentality is fucked up. ask anybody on here who's the king of the west coast and see what they say. most won't say eazy even though he is.
youre just too much of a negative thinker in the broad scheme of things.
how am i negative for bein' truthful ? most won't give e the props he deserves they'll give 'em to another who hasn't done close to what eazy has done for not only west coast music but hip hop music.
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who is this "they" you are talking about. Im with u that he doesnt have his proper respect in Hip Hop but who is this "they" u always mention?
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who is this "they" you are talking about. Im with u that he doesnt have his proper respect in Hip Hop but who is this "they" u always mention?
if someone were to do a poll on who's the king of the west coast most of the posters here wouldn't say eazy was. imo he was.
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blanket statement but okay
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Because he died when these youn fans where still listening to the "mini pops"...
Pac died only a year after...and EVERYBODY knws Pac....even lil kids..ask em who eazy is, they'll be like ??? ???
did pac "contribute" more to the Westcoast rap scene or even rap scene in general then Eazy E did?.....hmmm..
Simple.... Eazy-E was famous before he died...
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I think a big reason that Eazy isn't as recognized as he should be is because Ruthless did a piss poor job of carrying on his legacy after he died.
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he dont get recognized i agree/ but me personally always have eazy in top 5
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Because he died when these youn fans where still listening to the "mini pops"...
Pac died only a year after...and EVERYBODY knws Pac....even lil kids..ask em who eazy is, they'll be like ??? ???
did pac "contribute" more to the Westcoast rap scene or even rap scene in general then Eazy E did?.....hmmm..
hell no. eazy gave him and others the platform to make the music they made. had it not been for ruthless records the west coast scene even as we know it today wouldn't be what it is.
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I think a big reason that Eazy isn't as recognized as he should be is because Ruthless did a piss poor job of carrying on his legacy after he died.
yeah but what he contributed shouldn't be forgotten.
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I think a big reason that Eazy isn't as recognized as he should be is because Ruthless did a piss poor job of carrying on his legacy after he died.
This.
Dude started the careers of Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, Bone Thugs and Will.I.Am, most of whom went on to start the careers of other big artists, and left his mark on hip hop. A mark few ever see.
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I think a big reason that Eazy isn't as recognized as he should be is because Ruthless did a piss poor job of carrying on his legacy after he died.
True. pac got posthumous albums, documentarys, merchandise etc. But we can't deny that even tho eazy was a rapper he stayed in the background more with the business and everything. lesser interviews Comparing to pac. eazy was also more "underground" if y'all know what i mean. He diddent get the same exposure like pac with the rapecharge and all that controversy. he also died a natural death, if we compare with pac who was murdered. And the killer was never brought to justice. That sparks so much more. When someone dont get that much exposure in the mainstream media people tend to forget that person much faster. And all rapfans arent hardcore rapfans, maybe more casual listeners.
But i agree its still a bit strange when you look at what he accomplished in his short time... and the imprint he actually did.
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he died a natural death? what kinda bird logic is that? so youre saying becuz he's black and died of aids it was the way god intended? youre an idiot
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I think a big reason that Eazy isn't as recognized as he should be is because Ruthless did a piss poor job of carrying on his legacy after he died.
True. pac got posthumous albums, documentarys, merchandise etc. But we can't deny that even tho eazy was a rapper he stayed in the background more with the business and everything. lesser interviews Comparing to pac. eazy was also more "underground" if y'all know what i mean. He diddent get the same exposure like pac with the rapecharge and all that controversy. he also died a natural death, if we compare with pac who was murdered. And the killer was never brought to justice. That sparks so much more. When someone dont get that much exposure in the mainstream media people tend to forget that person much faster. And all rapfans arent hardcore rapfans, maybe more casual listeners.
But i agree its still a bit strange when you look at what he accomplished in his short time... and the imprint he actually did.
eazy was murdered dude.
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I think a big reason that Eazy isn't as recognized as he should be is because Ruthless did a piss poor job of carrying on his legacy after he died.
yeah but what he contributed shouldn't be forgotten.
No doubt. I was just giving a reason for why he is forgotten.
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I think a big reason that Eazy isn't as recognized as he should be is because Ruthless did a piss poor job of carrying on his legacy after he died.
yep +1
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I think he doesn't get discussed here because there's nothing to fight about.
If you think about other legends it's mainly things like "did Dre take credit for other's work or not", "was Pac real or a fake ballerina", "did Cube rip everyone he worked with off ", "Snoop is shit nowadays" and so on that the topics are about.
With Eazy everyone just agrees and there's no point for a thread where everyone just goes "yup".
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Tomica should offer to give Dre access to whatever material Eazy has in the vault and see if he can do something with Eazy's vocals for Detox. Eazy rapped about smoking and drinking a fair amount so maybe there's something that would work for Detox.
I can't think of anything bigger than a Dre and Eazy "reunion track" for Eazy's legacy at this point. That's only if the track comes out proper though, which is no guarantee.
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he is recognized idk why people say he isn't i mean people have tribute shows n shit. but unlike pac he didn't sell like 100 million records
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he is recognized idk why people say he isn't i mean people have tribute shows n shit. but unlike pac he didn't sell like 100 million records
dude he had a record company and at one point was gonna sign pac and his group.
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Tomica should offer to give Dre access to whatever material Eazy has in the vault and see if he can do something with Eazy's vocals for Detox. Eazy rapped about smoking and drinking a fair amount so maybe there's something that would work for Detox.
I can't think of anything bigger than a Dre and Eazy "reunion track" for Eazy's legacy at this point. That's only if the track comes out proper though, which is no guarantee.
that would be dope.
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he is recognized idk why people say he isn't i mean people have tribute shows n shit. but unlike pac he didn't sell like 100 million records
dude he had a record company and at one point was gonna sign pac and his group.
and he didnt lol cuz he knew ruthless was going under. eazy had ONE group that people cared about. bone thugs. he woulda rode them to bankruptcy. i think eazy woulda flourished regardless in someway to stay in the mix somehow like damon dash was kinda doing. but the thing that separated eazy from other is that he made pretty good music and ran his own company and put out records. but how many of those records weree selling. blood of abraham,that girl group menajatwa or something, kid frost, brownside, ATL i mean they were barely selling and had a shitty distribution deal. thats why it's so hard for us to find old ruthless records albums. like steffons trippin with no luggage
please dont reply with a long response lmao im just sayin tho eazy was a big star but not as big as people thought or thinks he deserves. he would have stayed in the spotlight like ice t.
can you imagine an old azz eazy e now having a reality show on VH1 Eazierr Said Than Dunn lmao his career would have gone downhill.
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he is recognized idk why people say he isn't i mean people have tribute shows n shit. but unlike pac he didn't sell like 100 million records
dude he had a record company and at one point was gonna sign pac and his group.
and he didnt lol cuz he knew ruthless was going under. eazy had ONE group that people cared about. bone thugs. he woulda rode them to bankruptcy. i think eazy woulda flourished regardless in someway to stay in the mix somehow like damon dash was kinda doing. but the thing that separated eazy from other is that he made pretty good music and ran his own company and put out records. but how many of those records weree selling. blood of abraham,that girl group menajatwa or something, kid frost, brownside, ATL i mean they were barely selling and had a shitty distribution deal. thats why it's so hard for us to find old ruthless records albums. like steffons trippin with no luggage
please dont reply with a long response lmao im just sayin tho eazy was a big star but not as big as people thought or thinks he deserves. he would have stayed in the spotlight like ice t.
can you imagine an old azz eazy e now having a reality show on VH1 Eazierr Said Than Dunn lmao his career would have gone downhill.
LOL ruthless did well post nwa. atl did well and other records would have too had it not been for eazy's death. but eazy had big plans for ruthless records.
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he is recognized idk why people say he isn't i mean people have tribute shows n shit. but unlike pac he didn't sell like 100 million records
dude he had a record company and at one point was gonna sign pac and his group.
and he didnt lol cuz he knew ruthless was going under. eazy had ONE group that people cared about. bone thugs. he woulda rode them to bankruptcy. i think eazy woulda flourished regardless in someway to stay in the mix somehow like damon dash was kinda doing. but the thing that separated eazy from other is that he made pretty good music and ran his own company and put out records. but how many of those records weree selling. blood of abraham,that girl group menajatwa or something, kid frost, brownside, ATL i mean they were barely selling and had a shitty distribution deal. thats why it's so hard for us to find old ruthless records albums. like steffons trippin with no luggage
please dont reply with a long response lmao im just sayin tho eazy was a big star but not as big as people thought or thinks he deserves. he would have stayed in the spotlight like ice t.
can you imagine an old azz eazy e now having a reality show on VH1 Eazierr Said Than Dunn lmao his career would have gone downhill.
LOL ruthless did well post nwa. atl did well and other records would have too had it not been for eazy's death. but eazy had big plans for ruthless records.
my nigga by the time 95' came around it was all death row eazy just had bone which was a huuuuge attraction ya know but they wasnt no snoop. even tho the sales werent too different
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he is recognized idk why people say he isn't i mean people have tribute shows n shit. but unlike pac he didn't sell like 100 million records
dude he had a record company and at one point was gonna sign pac and his group.
and he didnt lol cuz he knew ruthless was going under. eazy had ONE group that people cared about. bone thugs. he woulda rode them to bankruptcy. i think eazy woulda flourished regardless in someway to stay in the mix somehow like damon dash was kinda doing. but the thing that separated eazy from other is that he made pretty good music and ran his own company and put out records. but how many of those records weree selling. blood of abraham,that girl group menajatwa or something, kid frost, brownside, ATL i mean they were barely selling and had a shitty distribution deal. thats why it's so hard for us to find old ruthless records albums. like steffons trippin with no luggage
please dont reply with a long response lmao im just sayin tho eazy was a big star but not as big as people thought or thinks he deserves. he would have stayed in the spotlight like ice t.
can you imagine an old azz eazy e now having a reality show on VH1 Eazierr Said Than Dunn lmao his career would have gone downhill.
LOL ruthless did well post nwa. atl did well and other records would have too had it not been for eazy's death. but eazy had big plans for ruthless records.
my nigga by the time 95' came around it was all death row eazy just had bone which was a huuuuge attraction ya know but they wasnt no snoop. even tho the sales werent too different
bone sold about 4 mill of an ep then. death row was doin' their thing but the east was comin' back and we all know what was comin' next....
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he is recognized idk why people say he isn't i mean people have tribute shows n shit. but unlike pac he didn't sell like 100 million records
dude he had a record company and at one point was gonna sign pac and his group.
and he didnt lol cuz he knew ruthless was going under. eazy had ONE group that people cared about. bone thugs. he woulda rode them to bankruptcy. i think eazy woulda flourished regardless in someway to stay in the mix somehow like damon dash was kinda doing. but the thing that separated eazy from other is that he made pretty good music and ran his own company and put out records. but how many of those records weree selling. blood of abraham,that girl group menajatwa or something, kid frost, brownside, ATL i mean they were barely selling and had a shitty distribution deal. thats why it's so hard for us to find old ruthless records albums. like steffons trippin with no luggage
please dont reply with a long response lmao im just sayin tho eazy was a big star but not as big as people thought or thinks he deserves. he would have stayed in the spotlight like ice t.
can you imagine an old azz eazy e now having a reality show on VH1 Eazierr Said Than Dunn lmao his career would have gone downhill.
I agree with this but think that Tomica could've done better with his legacy.
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i love eazy's music and im not sayin this to be disrespectful but dying of aids didnt exactly help his legacy
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i love eazy's music and im not sayin this to be disrespectful but dying of aids didnt exactly help his legacy
I hear you. If he was out in the public educating people on AIDS, and he was open about it, I think it would have helped his legacy. His health went downhill so quick though so he didn't even really get the opportunity to do any of that.
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Eazy transitioned before "E.1999" and "The Villain In Black" came out. He also didnt get to see Dre leave Death Row and Pac n nem diss him. Lets not act like by the spring of 97' (around "The Art of War" dayz) that Death Row AND Dr. Dre were doin all that godly either.
and i know this probably dont mean shit but "Joints & Jams" came out in the summer/fall of 98' so even tho thats 3 years later u never know what coulda happened in that short of a timeframe
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itīs sad that so many of his tracks are/contain disses to dre . a few years after the chronicīs release he was still at it . dude seemed bitter even tho dre day only meant eazy pay day
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itīs sad that so many of his tracks are/contain disses to dre . a few years after the chronicīs release he was still at it . dude seemed bitter even tho dre day only meant eazy pay day
it wasn't that he was still at it you forget that a lot of str.8 off tha streetz was recorded in 93 and their beef was still crackin' at the time. eazy was also plannin' a death row killa comp.
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itīs sad that so many of his tracks are/contain disses to dre . a few years after the chronicīs release he was still at it . dude seemed bitter even tho dre day only meant eazy pay day
it wasn't that he was still at it you forget that a lot of str.8 off tha streetz was recorded in 93 and their beef was still crackin' at the time. eazy was also plannin' a death row killa comp.
thanks for the correction . i didnīt even remember the album was released after he died, on that note i donīt think Str8 off tha Streetz... wouldīve been like that if Eazy had lived longer . Ruthless probably wanted to make some money off his death .
but still, he did have an awful lot of dre disses , lol . but his best songs are joints like sorry louie and those kinda gangsta tracks