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Title: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: The_Ripper on January 21, 2013, 12:52:04 AM
As detailed by HOOPSWORLD.com, the Lakers currently have $99,893,231 in payroll this season.
 
With a record of 17-22 (12th place in the Western Conference), the Lakers will pay $29,586,231 in luxury taxes. All told, the Lakers' $129,479,462 payroll is easily the highest in the league.
 
No other team is at $100 million. The Miami Heat is just under the $97-million mark (including tax), but they're coming off an NBA championship.

The Lakers pay three players (Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol) a total of $66.4 million, more than 15 teams pay for their entire rosters.
 
Next season, the Lakers have "just" $68.1 million in payroll, but if the team re-signs Howard at $20.5 million, that number jumps quickly to $88.6 million. That's based on six players under contract; the payroll would still need to climb with the salary of at least seven more players.
 
Complicating matters, the league institutes a "graduated tax" next season. A $100-million payroll would trigger in the neighborhood of $73 million in taxes for a total of $173 million.
 
The Lakers are at nearly $130 million and they're not a playoff team. Are they going to be appreciably better next year at $173 million?

http://www.hoopsworld.com/los-angeles-lakers-team-salary/
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: PLANT on January 21, 2013, 10:19:03 AM
The Lakers have BIG TIME problems.  I dont see this ship getting turned around. 
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Sccit on January 21, 2013, 11:30:15 AM
The Lakers have BIG TIME problems.  I dont see this ship getting turned around. 


right...cuz we dont have 1 of the best rosters in the league playing for the most successful franchise in sports history. we'll be fine :laugh:. hopefully, management realizes their mistake and fires d'antoni sooner rather than later...but were not in the worst of shape, even though it does look pretty bad right about now
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Citizen-Y on January 21, 2013, 03:31:41 PM
The LA Knicks
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Chamillitary Click on January 21, 2013, 06:44:57 PM
They're going to be fine. Eight new players to the roster, new coach, new system, new chemistry. Injury problems and shit. Have them as the third best team in the West behind OKC and the Clippers.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Citizen-Y on January 22, 2013, 05:22:28 AM
They're going to be fine. Eight new players to the roster, new coach, new system, new chemistry. Injury problems and shit. Have them as the third best team in the West behind OKC and the Clippers.

If they want to make the playoffs they might want to start, I don't know, maybe winning some games would probably be a good start.  They are going to have to play .700 ball from here on out to make it.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Sccit on January 22, 2013, 12:41:43 PM
They're going to be fine. Eight new players to the roster, new coach, new system, new chemistry. Injury problems and shit. Have them as the third best team in the West behind OKC and the Clippers.

If they want to make the playoffs they might want to start, I don't know, maybe winning some games would probably be a good start.  They are going to have to play .700 ball from here on out to make it.

were only 3 games back from a playoff spot....the bottom of the west is a lot weaker than it's been in a while, so we still have a good shot


but ur right, if we wanna make playoffs, we really gotta start turning things around NOW
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: King Of The Greater Los Angeles Area on January 22, 2013, 12:50:39 PM
all my niggaz look rich as fuck
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Chamillitary Click on January 22, 2013, 01:50:10 PM
all my niggaz look rich as fuck

I believe the line is "live rich as fuck". But then again, who really knows what 2 Chainz is saying sometimes.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 22, 2013, 08:52:30 PM
Thing is that the Lakers have missed the playoffs just 5 times since 1960. Think of that, the Celtics have missed the playoffs 13 times since then, 15 times since, and the Heat 8 times in their existence. The Lakers are the most consistent franchise in the NBA. One bad season is a drop in the bucket.

Here is the thing, the Lakers need to destroy and rebuild. I say their priority must be to do everything in their power to keep Dwight Howard. Hell I say trade for Kevin Love while he is cheap and coming off injury. Get young talent around Howard now, forget making the playoffs this season and start to rebuild a younger team. But let the record show that when it comes to rebounding and building a competitive team, no one has a history like the Lakers, no one.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: LooN3y on January 23, 2013, 12:04:17 AM
Thing is that the Lakers have missed the playoffs just 5 times since 1960. Think of that, the Celtics have missed the playoffs 13 times since then, 15 times since, and the Heat 8 times in their existence. The Lakers are the most consistent franchise in the NBA. One bad season is a drop in the bucket.

Here is the thing, the Lakers need to destroy and rebuild. I say their priority must be to do everything in their power to keep Dwight Howard. Hell I say trade for Kevin Love while he is cheap and coming off injury. Get young talent around Howard now, forget making the playoffs this season and start to rebuild a younger team. But let the record show that when it comes to rebounding and building a competitive team, no one has a history like the Lakers, no one.

keep dwight and feed him "in the post"? this guys is one of the worst offensive star bigmen ive seen in, particularly forever.

and he complains about not getting enough touches? and he doesnt want to run the Pick and roll? ridiculous.

theres alot of problems on this team and ego managing is one, another is having a system when it doesnt fit the roster, and all in which leads to basically no team chemistry and the loss of effort on defense.

nash isn't that great of a post feeder, he never played with a post player, but dwight isnt a back to the basket post player, so the fact taht nash has to post feed a guy taht isnt even good in a post is already an idiotic move right there.

since dwight has no post game, nash is forced to try to beat guys off the dribble and draw a double team, which is particularly hard at his age, but when he does he get it to him in the post, he does the turn around jump hook and completely misses the rim,

dwight needs to dive with nash when he drives and beat his man off the dribble and get that lob or that baby assists and get those garbage points, WHICH WAS WHAT I WAS THINKING HE WAS GOING TO DO THE MINUTE WE GOT HIM.

pau is the best post up bigman on this team, no question about that, please dont bring up pau getting punked in the post this year, because that was what? once or twice a game? if any post ups for him at all? mike dantoni in all his wisdom would rather have pau shoot 3 pointers all day.

all of course the DNP's of jamison and meeks, ridiculous, u need to give these guys some repetitiveness to build chemistry and confidence.

and of course, mike dantoni doesnt want to post up, when we have pau, ron, kobe, jamison, who work pretty damn good off the post. and yea having dwight score couple off the post is good, but that shouldnt be dwights bread and butter, because we all knew before he left orlando, i mean shit well before he left orlando that he had no post game, and it shows now.


its been a joke since we left the triangle, why leave a system that which the roster was built for and make players pick up a new system?


it obviously didnt work
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Remedy360 on January 23, 2013, 01:06:33 AM
I'm on record several times saying the Lakers would be fine, but shit's looking bad for them. The D'antoni hiring is looking worse and worse. Granted, they've brought in a lot of new guys, new system, etc, but time is ticking. Kobe is having one of the best years of his career, the guys around him need to step up the intensity. And LOL @ Gasol being reduced to a role player.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: LooN3y on January 23, 2013, 01:16:29 AM
I'm on record several times saying the Lakers would be fine, but shit's looking bad for them. The D'antoni hiring is looking worse and worse. Granted, they've brought in a lot of new guys, new system, etc, but time is ticking. Kobe is having one of the best years of his career, the guys around him need to step up the intensity. And LOL @ Gasol being reduced to a role player.

2 consecutive coaching hires would do that.


especially when the 1st coach just had no idea how to run the offense nor had the respect of the star players and when the 2nd coach force feeds his system to a roster that isnt qualified to run that system, in which both have been playing the senior star players to the ground.



we have kobe, gasol, dwight, jamison, ron, hill (used to) and he doesnt want to run any post ups?

shits ridiculous. and jim buss is on that hating phil jackson crack
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Mietek23 on January 23, 2013, 11:15:26 AM
I think Howard will leave Lakers in the summer - it's obvious he don't want to be there. They should trade him and get something in exchange while they still can..
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on January 23, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
I'm on record several times saying the Lakers would be fine, but shit's looking bad for them. The D'antoni hiring is looking worse and worse. Granted, they've brought in a lot of new guys, new system, etc, but time is ticking.
His system is just better utilized when you have a team of smaller guys running it... which isn't the scenario but he's forcing that style upon them anyway.

My friends who are Clippers fans and Lakers haters have been having a field day with this... except for last night when the Clips AND the Celts got beat the way they did haha.  There was a lot of silence on Facebook last night.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Sccit on January 23, 2013, 12:42:30 PM
Thing is that the Lakers have missed the playoffs just 5 times since 1960. Think of that, the Celtics have missed the playoffs 13 times since then, 15 times since, and the Heat 8 times in their existence. The Lakers are the most consistent franchise in the NBA. One bad season is a drop in the bucket.

Here is the thing, the Lakers need to destroy and rebuild. I say their priority must be to do everything in their power to keep Dwight Howard. Hell I say trade for Kevin Love while he is cheap and coming off injury. Get young talent around Howard now, forget making the playoffs this season and start to rebuild a younger team. But let the record show that when it comes to rebounding and building a competitive team, no one has a history like the Lakers, no one.


Howard is not a franchise player...time to get that notion out ya minds.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Sccit on January 23, 2013, 12:46:25 PM
gotta be honest, though...mike d'antoni is probably a worse coach than mike brown. and thats a pretty hard feat to accomplish. i think not hiring phil for this roster has the potential to go down as one of the worst moves in laker history.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: LooN3y on January 23, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
Thing is that the Lakers have missed the playoffs just 5 times since 1960. Think of that, the Celtics have missed the playoffs 13 times since then, 15 times since, and the Heat 8 times in their existence. The Lakers are the most consistent franchise in the NBA. One bad season is a drop in the bucket.

Here is the thing, the Lakers need to destroy and rebuild. I say their priority must be to do everything in their power to keep Dwight Howard. Hell I say trade for Kevin Love while he is cheap and coming off injury. Get young talent around Howard now, forget making the playoffs this season and start to rebuild a younger team. But let the record show that when it comes to rebounding and building a competitive team, no one has a history like the Lakers, no one.


Howard is not a franchise player...time to get that notion out ya minds.

he is a franchise player, just like how gasol was like a mini franchise player in memphis,

they acn be the franchise player, but that franchise isnt going anywhere. dwight should never be a first option in any team.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on January 23, 2013, 01:47:48 PM
gotta be honest, though...mike d'antoni is probably a worse coach than mike brown. and thats a pretty hard feat to accomplish. i think not hiring phil for this roster has the potential to go down as one of the worst moves in laker history.
Yeah, I was kind of thinking that when they didn't even sit at the table with PJ even though it had been announced that they had reached out to him for the position after they fired Mike Brown.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Sccit on January 23, 2013, 02:12:59 PM
Thing is that the Lakers have missed the playoffs just 5 times since 1960. Think of that, the Celtics have missed the playoffs 13 times since then, 15 times since, and the Heat 8 times in their existence. The Lakers are the most consistent franchise in the NBA. One bad season is a drop in the bucket.

Here is the thing, the Lakers need to destroy and rebuild. I say their priority must be to do everything in their power to keep Dwight Howard. Hell I say trade for Kevin Love while he is cheap and coming off injury. Get young talent around Howard now, forget making the playoffs this season and start to rebuild a younger team. But let the record show that when it comes to rebounding and building a competitive team, no one has a history like the Lakers, no one.


Howard is not a franchise player...time to get that notion out ya minds.

he is a franchise player, just like how gasol was like a mini franchise player in memphis,

they acn be the franchise player, but that franchise isnt going anywhere. dwight should never be a first option in any team.


which means they're really not franchise players LOL
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 23, 2013, 08:38:22 PM
Howard is a star, though I'd agree he's not a first option on offense. But right now, there is no better option to rebuild unless you can get K-Love for D12.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Sccit on January 23, 2013, 10:11:08 PM
we're better off trading him LOL....rebuilding around him is straight suicide. the fact that were the Lakers means we'll always attract free agents, regardless. i can name u a ganga players i'd rather rebuild around over dwight right about now....as much as i always thought dwight was weak and overrated, i never thought it'd be THIS bad. he belongs on a team like the Raptors, straight up.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 24, 2013, 11:57:36 AM
I don't agree. I think Howard needs to stay a Laker. The Lakers need to keep him. He is a piece, a very big piece. He can attract other players to come to the Lakers. Right now, a free agent has this choice if he wants to play in LA. Do I play with an aging Kobe and Pau, or do I play with CP3 running the point. That's not even a question. Now you have them ask, do I play with the best big man in the NBA, or the best point guard in the NBA. Now the question becomes harder. Keep Howard. He is a piece of that championship puzzle.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Sccit on January 24, 2013, 12:06:33 PM
I don't agree. I think Howard needs to stay a Laker. The Lakers need to keep him. He is a piece, a very big piece. He can attract other players to come to the Lakers. Right now, a free agent has this choice if he wants to play in LA. Do I play with an aging Kobe and Pau, or do I play with CP3 running the point. That's not even a question. Now you have them ask, do I play with the best big man in the NBA, or the best point guard in the NBA. Now the question becomes harder. Keep Howard. He is a piece of that championship puzzle.


lol i rather kobe retire than see dwight signed to a max contract....as a matter of fact, i think both those scenarios go hand in hand.


have u watched the lakers AT ALL this season? we suck...and a big reason for that is because dwight's demeanor is the same as that of a 12 year old faggot. he's a joke, thats all there is to it. the system they were running for him in Orlando was PICTURE PERFECT. they didnt depend on him to score or create offense....instead, he was just there to play D and grab boards. 4 shooters spacing the floor, Dwight in the middle to pick up offensive rebounds for uncontested putback dunks....he sucks for everything else. literally, everything. dwight howard is 75% name value, 15% defense, 10% rebounds- 100% overrated. seriously, remember when emeka okafor was considered the better pick in their first 2 seasons playing? we might not have been wrong, afterall. i think okafor would be doin better with us than howard is doing right now.......to top off his lack of skill and overrated game, he has a TERRIBLE attitude. he is a clown who carries no intensity, has no killer instinct, feels owed, thinks he's special, etc....i can go on forever about how weak this dude is, but ima spare myself the time and effort.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: PLANT on January 24, 2013, 12:30:00 PM
. he belongs on a team like the Raptors, straight up.
Id take him in a trade for Bargnani, thats it tho...we really dont want Bargnani back in our lineup

Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Sccit on January 24, 2013, 02:09:30 PM
. he belongs on a team like the Raptors, straight up.
Id take him in a trade for Bargnani, thats it tho...we really dont want Bargnani back in our lineup



lol... It'll take more than bargs to land Dwight. Perhaps a combo of Lowry+bargs+Ed davis+some picks, but anything short of that will not land u Dwight
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: PLANT on January 24, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
. he belongs on a team like the Raptors, straight up.
Id take him in a trade for Bargnani, thats it tho...we really dont want Bargnani back in our lineup



lol... It'll take more than bargs to land Dwight. Perhaps a combo of Lowry+bargs+Ed davis+some picks, but anything short of that will not land u Dwight
I wouldnt want Howard.  He hasnt showed any ability to be a franchise guy like you said, or a player you want to build a team around.  Thats why I wouldnt sell the farm for him.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Sccit on January 24, 2013, 05:05:31 PM
. he belongs on a team like the Raptors, straight up.
Id take him in a trade for Bargnani, thats it tho...we really dont want Bargnani back in our lineup



lol... It'll take more than bargs to land Dwight. Perhaps a combo of Lowry+bargs+Ed davis+some picks, but anything short of that will not land u Dwight
I wouldnt want Howard.  He hasnt showed any ability to be a franchise guy like you said, or a player you want to build a team around.  Thats why I wouldnt sell the farm for him.


He'd be good on a team like the Raptors... No pressure like in LA and they can have success by doin what Orlando did, surround him with shooters and use him as a decoy on offense.
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on February 06, 2013, 11:20:40 AM


He'd be good on a team like the Raptors... No pressure like in LA and they can have success by doin what Orlando did, surround him with shooters and use him as a decoy on offense.

Right.  And I think this proves the importance of role players.   The Rodman, the Paxsons, the Robert Horry type of guys that were part of championship teams.

Also... I guess Van Gundy was a better coach then people realized.   
Title: Re: Lakers paying almost $130 million for 12th-place team
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 28, 2013, 09:31:56 PM
good news for LA is they are now a 9th place team


meaning maybe they can move up to 8 and get raped by the Spurs in the playoffs