West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite on March 20, 2013, 06:17:44 PM
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Did they rush this album or what? Did he suddenly fall off during the middle of the making of this album?
I mean, half of it is the Xzibit we all know and love. Half of it is the exact same Xzibit we heard on his first 3 West Coast Classics. Listen to tracks like "Losin Your Mind" and Xzibit is coming hard as fuck. There is no drop off in his skills, intensity or hunger on many of the tracks. Here's how I divide the album up...
Strong Half:
Release Date
Symphony In X Major
Multiply
Heart of Man
Losin Your Mind
My Name
Weak Half:
Choke Me, Spank Me, Pull My Hair
BK to LA
The Gambler
Missin You
Right On
Bitch Ass Niggaz
Enemiez
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i felt the same way. alot of weak ass tracks and a lot of good ones.
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i have to agree also. And then xzibits next 2-3 albums were pretty shit overall. His last one though is dope.
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i like Choke Me, Spank Me, Pull My Hair 8)
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there were some weaker tracks, but none horrible.. "the gambler" was dope, i liked "choke me, spank me" for what it was (cant go wrong wit a dre production), "enemiez" was average, "bitch ass niggaz" was an interlude, "missin you" was a tribute to his moms, not great, not horrible, "bk 2 la" did sound forced...overall, it was a dope album. a step down from "restless", but still better than anything up until "napalm".
from the tracks you didn't mention, wasn't really feelin "right on" too much, but thought "harder" was bangin. one of the best tracks was the premo track, which ended up only on the bonus disc.
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why u postin topics in the outbound though? this shit goes in the west coast section mayn
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I must be one of the few who liked WOMD. That period when he first got StrongArm Steady together was dope n most shit they put out was fire.
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why u postin topics in the outbound though? this shit goes in the west coast section mayn
yeah... it was an accident... if there is a Mod in the house please move this
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one of the best tracks was the premo track, which ended up only on the bonus disc.
word.. that PRemo track (on the bonus disc) was the truth
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The Gambler is my fav song on that album. Anthony Hamilton drops a sick hook, the beat is awesome, and xzibit slams the track hard.
www.youtube.com/miclordz
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The Gambler is my fav song on that album. Anthony Hamilton drops a sick hook, the beat is awesome, and xzibit slams the track hard.
www.youtube.com/miclordz
i agree, it was one of my favs too...not one of the knockers, but one of the smoother joints that went hard.
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I agree with you, half of the album is really terrible. Mostly because of the beats in my opinion.
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i felt the same way. alot of weak ass tracks and a lot of good ones.
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The Gambler is my fav song on that album. Anthony Hamilton drops a sick hook, the beat is awesome, and xzibit slams the track hard.
www.youtube.com/miclordz
i agree, it was one of my favs too...not one of the knockers, but one of the smoother joints that went hard.
Don't really see what you guys see in that track
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The Gambler is my fav song on that album. Anthony Hamilton drops a sick hook, the beat is awesome, and xzibit slams the track hard.
www.youtube.com/miclordz
i agree, it was one of my favs too...not one of the knockers, but one of the smoother joints that went hard.
Don't really see what you guys see in that track
sounds like a throwback joint, nice beat, xzibit comes hard
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"My Life, My World" was a tight song. Should've been on the album.
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Hit U Where it Hurts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfKNMxDO1Bs
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yeah this album was definitely a letdown after "Restless", like everyone said some dope tracks mixed with some terrible ones...what made it more surprising is that Dre oversaw this project as well if I'm not mistaken
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i'd say if they replaced "bk 2 la" with the premo track and "right on" with "hit u where it hurts", u have an album u could play all the way through.
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The Gambler is my fav song on that album. Anthony Hamilton drops a sick hook, the beat is awesome, and xzibit slams the track hard.
www.youtube.com/miclordz
i agree, it was one of my favs too...not one of the knockers, but one of the smoother joints that went hard.
"the gambler" was/is the shit 8)
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i'd say if they replaced "bk 2 la" with the premo track and "right on" with "hit u where it hurts", u have an album u could play all the way through.
and replace "Miss U" with the bangin joint he did for The Wash soundtrack. Then just strip it down to like 12, 13 joints.... It had a chance to be another classic Xzibit release like his first 3 albums
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i'd say if they replaced "bk 2 la" with the premo track and "right on" with "hit u where it hurts", u have an album u could play all the way through.
and replace "Miss U" with the bangin joint he did for The Wash soundtrack. Then just strip it down to like 12, 13 joints.... It had a chance to be another classic Xzibit release like his first 3 albums
definitely had classic potential, i cant hate on a song thats a tribute to someones dead mother, tho. its more personal to him than it is to u or me.
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Relase date is best opener ever 8) 8)
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^mighta been the best cut on the album
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Relase date is best opener ever 8) 8)
Yeah... that album really started off FIRE!! I mean with that Release date opener leading into him saying, "I'm off to the Studio" and then "Symphony In X Minor" comes in. Couldn't of gotten off to a better start. I actually have "Symphony In X Minor" as my ringtone
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Relase date is best opener ever 8) 8)
Yeah... that album really started off FIRE!! I mean with that Release date opener leading into him saying, "I'm off to the Studio" and then "Symphony In X Minor" comes in. Couldn't of gotten off to a better start. I actually have "Symphony In X Minor" as my ringtone
major
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That track where he used the " I miss the rains down in Africa " sample was garbage .
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That track where he used the " I miss the rains down in Africa " sample was garbage.
How many people have used that fuckin same sample? Nas comes to my mind right away.
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That track where he used the " I miss the rains down in Africa " sample was garbage.
How many people have used that fuckin same sample? Nas comes to my mind right away.
I like that joint. I actually consider "Heart of Man" to be one of the bangers on the album. Love the sample to. I've been getting back into 80's music from my youth over the past few years and that joint is from Toto "Africa".
The sample has been used 100's of times. I wonder if that has something to do with whoever owns the copyrights, or if artists just love that sample. PM Dawn also used it for one of their hits back in the early 90's "Set Adrift on Memory Bliss".... that's the only joint I can think of off the top of my head but there's several more.
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Had this album been as good as Restless, then Weapons of Mass Destruction would have pushed more units. WoMD is one of the most over looked albums.
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Had this album been as good as Restless, then Weapons of Mass Destruction would have pushed more units. WoMD is one of the most over looked albums.
"man vs machine" > "weapons of mass destruction"
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That track where he used the " I miss the rains down in Africa " sample was garbage.
How many people have used that fuckin same sample? Nas comes to my mind right away.
I like that joint. I actually consider "Heart of Man" to be one of the bangers on the album. Love the sample to. I've been getting back into 80's music from my youth over the past few years and that joint is from Toto "Africa".
The sample has been used 100's of times. I wonder if that has something to do with whoever owns the copyrights, or if artists just love that sample. PM Dawn also used it for one of their hits back in the early 90's "Set Adrift on Memory Bliss".... that's the only joint I can think of off the top of my head but there's several more.
yea, "heart of man" goes hard
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The big question is why did have a Primo track as a bonus? What A Mess is probably the best track on it. My Life My World is dope as fuck too. Crazy decision to put them tracks as bonuses. I agree with the OP's view that half the album is a real let down. Think I bought it the day it came out and I had my CD player with me, inserted the disc in straight away and was disppointed to say the least.
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The big question is why did have a Primo track as a bonus? What A Mess is probably the best track on it. My Life My World is dope as fuck too. Crazy decision to put them tracks as bonuses. I agree with the OP's view that half the album is a real let down. Think I bought it the day it came out and I had my CD player with me, inserted the disc in straight away and was disppointed to say the least.
Maybe it was a late edition or something. Otherwise, I don't know why they would of left "What a Mess" off. It was a big mistake.
...Yeah, I was so hyped for this album. I mean, Xzibit was really the man at the time, because he was on fire and all his albums had been West Coast classics. I remember Man Vs. Machine was getting a lot of good hype and everyone was buzzing about it. I also got it the first day it came out. Those were like the last days when record stores were still around, so it's one of my last memories buying a cd at a music store.
I definitely wasn't disappointed, at first... Because I put the cd in and right away "Release Date" was fucking killing it... then it leads right into "Symphony in X Minor" and I'm already thinking it's another classic on our hands. Then "Heartz of Man" I loved the sample right away. I was in the zone. I picked out the Dr. Dre tracks and checked out "Losing Your Mind" and was feeling it.
Of course ultimately the album fell short and it's definitely not one you could play all the way through. I was confused at the new sound he was going with for the album, especially on tracks like "Miss You" and the Golden State joint. But at the end of the day, "Say My Name" was a monster track when I first heard it and I think the first few days I had the album I had that joint on repeat non-stop.
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Xzibit is a bit over rated
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Xzibit is a bit over rated
If anything he is under-rated. He should be mentioned as one of the greatest who ever did it...
Subjectively Speaking:
1. 2pac
2. Eminem
3. Nas
4. Xzibit
5. Snoop
Objectively Speaking:
1. 2pac
2. Biggie
3. Nas
4. Snoop
5. Xzibit
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xzibit is underrated, no doubt...he can rap with the best of em but doesnt get anywhere near the same recognition as the snoops or jay-zs, or even dmxs and ja rules. dude deserved more shine. 3,000 copies for "napalm" was a joke.
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Xzibit is a bit over rated
Oh hell nah.