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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Elano The One And Only on April 20, 2013, 10:33:03 AM
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The goal was to avoid commercialization and what we got was a movie, a video game, and an album produced by electronic dance music extraordinaire Diplo (aka Major Lazer)- well done!
You can’t teach an old dog new tricks? I’ll show you an old Dogg who can learn to sing reggae, re-brand himself for a new generation, and do it all under a spiritual guise.
Sometime in 2012, the “spirit” called on Calvin Broadus Jr. aka Snoop Dogg (to hereby be referred to as Broadus, as recognition of his personal decisions, not his stage name/character) to “find something that was connected to the Bob Marley spirit – because I’ve always said I’m Bob Marley re-incarnated, and it drew me to Jamaica.”
He then made plans to travel to Jamaica and invited folks from Vice, the international art and counter-culture magazine/media giant to join and document his musical metamorphosis. There, Broadus partook in Rastafarian rites-of-passage which assumedly involved copious amounts of the kind-bud, and was then christened Snoop Lion by a local Rastafarian priest. Reincarnated, the doc which chronicled this bizarre undertaking, made its debut on March 21st at SXSW. To Broadus, the album Reincarnated, which shares the same name as the movie but drops April 23rd, is an emergence of a new persona.
“It’s not that I want to be Snoop Dogg on a reggae record. I want to bury Snoop Dogg and become Snoop Lion,” said Broadus at a press conference. He went on to claim the new album is a reflection of early reggae music, the aim being “that dirtiness, that grittiness, not really being so commercialized.”
The few singles released from Reincarnated certainly reflect the Jah sound, with poppy snare drums forming super-chill beats, brass samples aplenty, wah-organ riffs, the percussive guitar up-pluck keeping pace, and Broadus’ smooth singing that has taken a new rasta-tinge. Whether this earns the title of Reggae music is questionable. Broadus seems to have assumed he would be called-out for exploiting Rastafarianism and the single “Here Comes the King” is blatant ass-covering.
In that song, Broadus sings, “I heard a voice, he said that I would understand – one king, one faith, one religion,” an obvious nod to the Christian faith from which Rastafarianism is derived. If anyone was going to pull the rug from under Snoops feet, it would be real Rastafarians, and in the very song that Snoop claims he is king, he also then bows to the one thing they hold dearest – the Almighty King.
Now that he’s kissed the ring, he’s free to roam his land in his tour bus, hitting every festival that will book him – and who wouldn’t? A music festival isn’t complete without a few throwback artists that people can gawk at and get high on nostalgia, and truly, the festival scene is ripe for the taking.
The Snoop Lion sound, image, and idea caters to everything a festival is about. The music has to be accessible to thousands of different ears, the musicians have to be entertaining (nothing new to Snoop), and it helps if the lyrics fit in to the pot-smoking, peace-driven vibe of the festival. Cue Snoop Lion track “Lighters Up,” where he sings “Put your lighters up, get high with me… ain’t no dividing us, east side, west side, south side, north side, unify,” and fits into the bill like it was meant to be. Maybe that was “the spirits” idea?
As fate would have it, the spirit has a video game in store as well: The Way of the Dogg. Yes, it is named after Snoop Dogg, but the beat-incorporating fighting game chronicles the Dogg’s transformation to Snoop Lion, the main character of the game. Set to be released on X-Box Live Arcade and Playstation Network, the game mixes Kung-Fu style battles fueled and controlled by Snoop’s music.
Of course, the game, the movie, the album and the whole transformation wasn’t an accident; it was a purposeful re-branding. Broadus seems genuine when he tears up speaking about his intense religious experience in Jamaica, but it’s hard to ignore how deliberately this was all done. Despite what anyone thinks about this Snoop Lion business, Broadus is a branding mastermind and has always been. That old Dogg has learned some new tricks, but his old tricks are still hard at work.
http://popstache.com/features/pop-vicious/from-dogg-to-lion-analyzing-tha-gimmick/
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great read Elano
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great read Elano
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great read Elano
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Snoop sold his soul a long ass time ago, now his master wants him to shucke and jive to a new "one world" tune.
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(http://anydecentmusic.com/ImageGen.ashx?image=/media/262367/snooplionpromo.jpg&width=371&height=210&compression=100)
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it´s started when snoop recorded murder was the case song on doggystyle...then doggfather,his pimp style (He paid Don Juan Magic) and pop shit...now this fuckery...
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The goal was to avoid commercialization and what we got was a movie, a video game, and an album produced by electronic dance music extraordinaire Diplo (aka Major Lazer)- well done!
You can’t teach an old dog new tricks? I’ll show you an old Dogg who can learn to sing reggae, re-brand himself for a new generation, and do it all under a spiritual guise.
Sometime in 2012, the “spirit” called on Calvin Broadus Jr. aka Snoop Dogg (to hereby be referred to as Broadus, as recognition of his personal decisions, not his stage name/character) to “find something that was connected to the Bob Marley spirit – because I’ve always said I’m Bob Marley re-incarnated, and it drew me to Jamaica.”
He then made plans to travel to Jamaica and invited folks from Vice, the international art and counter-culture magazine/media giant to join and document his musical metamorphosis. There, Broadus partook in Rastafarian rites-of-passage which assumedly involved copious amounts of the kind-bud, and was then christened Snoop Lion by a local Rastafarian priest. Reincarnated, the doc which chronicled this bizarre undertaking, made its debut on March 21st at SXSW. To Broadus, the album Reincarnated, which shares the same name as the movie but drops April 23rd, is an emergence of a new persona.
“It’s not that I want to be Snoop Dogg on a reggae record. I want to bury Snoop Dogg and become Snoop Lion,” said Broadus at a press conference. He went on to claim the new album is a reflection of early reggae music, the aim being “that dirtiness, that grittiness, not really being so commercialized.”
The few singles released from Reincarnated certainly reflect the Jah sound, with poppy snare drums forming super-chill beats, brass samples aplenty, wah-organ riffs, the percussive guitar up-pluck keeping pace, and Broadus’ smooth singing that has taken a new rasta-tinge. Whether this earns the title of Reggae music is questionable. Broadus seems to have assumed he would be called-out for exploiting Rastafarianism and the single “Here Comes the King” is blatant ass-covering.
In that song, Broadus sings, “I heard a voice, he said that I would understand – one king, one faith, one religion,” an obvious nod to the Christian faith from which Rastafarianism is derived. If anyone was going to pull the rug from under Snoops feet, it would be real Rastafarians, and in the very song that Snoop claims he is king, he also then bows to the one thing they hold dearest – the Almighty King.
Now that he’s kissed the ring, he’s free to roam his land in his tour bus, hitting every festival that will book him – and who wouldn’t? A music festival isn’t complete without a few throwback artists that people can gawk at and get high on nostalgia, and truly, the festival scene is ripe for the taking.
The Snoop Lion sound, image, and idea caters to everything a festival is about. The music has to be accessible to thousands of different ears, the musicians have to be entertaining (nothing new to Snoop), and it helps if the lyrics fit in to the pot-smoking, peace-driven vibe of the festival. Cue Snoop Lion track “Lighters Up,” where he sings “Put your lighters up, get high with me… ain’t no dividing us, east side, west side, south side, north side, unify,” and fits into the bill like it was meant to be. Maybe that was “the spirits” idea?
As fate would have it, the spirit has a video game in store as well: The Way of the Dogg. Yes, it is named after Snoop Dogg, but the beat-incorporating fighting game chronicles the Dogg’s transformation to Snoop Lion, the main character of the game. Set to be released on X-Box Live Arcade and Playstation Network, the game mixes Kung-Fu style battles fueled and controlled by Snoop’s music.
Of course, the game, the movie, the album and the whole transformation wasn’t an accident; it was a purposeful re-branding. Broadus seems genuine when he tears up speaking about his intense religious experience in Jamaica, but it’s hard to ignore how deliberately this was all done. Despite what anyone thinks about this Snoop Lion business, Broadus is a branding mastermind and has always been. That old Dogg has learned some new tricks, but his old tricks are still hard at work.
http://popstache.com/features/pop-vicious/from-dogg-to-lion-analyzing-tha-gimmick/
the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
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the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
This.
He makes an album about shooting bitches and fucking hos in the ass and it's great. Tries some positive shit and gets clowned. :-\
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I just couldn't fuck with that dub-step-ish vibe they had mixed in with the reggae on certain songs
overall there was 8 joints I fucked with, Snoop could have put out a short EP and I might have copped it
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Snoop sold his soul a long ass time ago, now his master wants him to shucke and jive to a new "one world" tune.
snoop never sold his soul ,ignorant. Snoop went back to his roots. something you no clue about . snoop has no master.
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the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
This.
He makes an album about shooting bitches and fucking hos in the ass and it's great. Tries some positive shit and gets clowned. :-\
You hang out on a west coast rap forum that is based around the Death Row era. The violent content in music should be the least of your worries.
Rebecca Black made a positive song about having fun on Friday. Should we be worshipping her for being nonviolent?
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Snoop sold his soul a long ass time ago, now his master wants him to shucke and jive to a new "one world" tune.
snoop never sold his soul ,ignorant. Snoop went back to his roots. something you no clue about . snoop has no master.
Nelly sold his soul to get on TRL on MTV
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the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
This.
He makes an album about shooting bitches and fucking hos in the ass and it's great. Tries some positive shit and gets clowned. :-\
You hang out on a west coast rap forum that is based around the Death Row era. The violent content in music should be the least of your worries.
Rebecca Black made a positive song about having fun on Friday. Should we be worshipping her for being nonviolent?
the fuck you tryna say
its still snoop album and this is the first snoop album that i can get my 5yr old daughter to jam to
it has positive vibe thruout the whole album and its good too
dont compare this to DOGGYSTYLE get out of that era and support the dogg
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When he was on power 106 he told big boy that he also did this cuz she wanted to talk about positive things, and as a rapper he couldn't that.
And he said he told ziggy marley that he feels like bob reincarnated and ziggy sad YES YOU ARE!
I dunno. I haven't heard a joint that banged like the Dogg from the Lion.
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the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
This.
He makes an album about shooting bitches and fucking hos in the ass and it's great. Tries some positive shit and gets clowned. :-\
Good for him for making positive music, I think the gripe is that most people don't wanna hear Snoop do reggae music.
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the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
This.
He makes an album about shooting bitches and fucking hos in the ass and it's great. Tries some positive shit and gets clowned. :-\
Good for him for making positive music, I think the gripe is that most people don't wanna hear Snoop do reggae music.
Not true for me, I'll listen to anything. Only gripe I have with it is that it's not great music
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Lyrically and subject matter this is a great album
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And he said he told ziggy marley that he feels like bob reincarnated and ziggy sad YES YOU ARE!
yeah believe it :D
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Lyrically and subject matter this is a great album
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the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
This.
He makes an album about shooting bitches and fucking hos in the ass and it's great. Tries some positive shit and gets clowned. :-\
You hang out on a west coast rap forum that is based around the Death Row era. The violent content in music should be the least of your worries.
Rebecca Black made a positive song about having fun on Friday. Should we be worshipping her for being nonviolent?
the fuck you tryna say
its still snoop album and this is the first snoop album that i can get my 5yr old daughter to jam to
it has positive vibe thruout the whole album and its good too
dont compare this to DOGGYSTYLE get out of that era and support the dogg
I didn't compare this to Doggystyle :laugh:
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Lyrically and subject matter this is a great album
I heard nothing standout lyrically, and I can't think of 1 example of where subject matter defines an album as great
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Snoop sold his soul a long ass time ago, now his master wants him to shucke and jive to a new "one world" tune.
snoop never sold his soul ,ignorant. Snoop went back to his roots. something you no clue about . snoop has no master.
Snoop is a gimmick riding fool who cares only about the paper and not the plight of "his peoples" nor his "roots". Heres his master:
(http://213.129.73.14/members/my_tracks/track_image/financial_money_roll.jpg)
Can't tell me nothin about ol Snooper "Sold His Soul" Dooper
(http://www.nme.com/images/gallery/rocksnoopdog_paphotos.jpg)
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the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
This.
He makes an album about shooting bitches and fucking hos in the ass and it's great. Tries some positive shit and gets clowned. :-\
You hang out on a west coast rap forum that is based around the Death Row era. The violent content in music should be the least of your worries.
Rebecca Black made a positive song about having fun on Friday. Should we be worshipping her for being nonviolent?
the fuck you tryna say
its still snoop album and this is the first snoop album that i can get my 5yr old daughter to jam to
it has positive vibe thruout the whole album and its good too
dont compare this to DOGGYSTYLE get out of that era and support the dogg
Support the Dogg and make his pockets even phatter? :laugh:
That album, that sound and that new image is nothing but true hypocrisy. Sizzla & Anthony B - Songs of Freedom, you want your daughter to jam to something positive - play her that.
Or even better, why not play her some Bob Marley?
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the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
This.
He makes an album about shooting bitches and fucking hos in the ass and it's great. Tries some positive shit and gets clowned. :-\
You hang out on a west coast rap forum that is based around the Death Row era. The violent content in music should be the least of your worries.
Rebecca Black made a positive song about having fun on Friday. Should we be worshipping her for being nonviolent?
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Funny that , they touched different subjects with this Lion project while Dogg wasted 11 albums talking about the same shit
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it´s not about him being positive or negative, it´s about him being a gimmick . the first line of the article sums up the whole thing.
snoop went to jamaica to become "enlightened" , to become a rastafarian . now does he really believe Haile Selassie ( dead since 1974 ) is God in the flesh ? doubt it. that´s one of the main things about rastas, even the fucking name of the religion comes from his birth name Ras ( meaning king ) Tafari Makonnen . does he eat I-tal ?
snoop turned to "rastafarism" because they smoke a lot of weed, most of them are peaceful ( except for the Nyahbingi ) . he just took what suited him from a culture (reminds me of someone from this forum ) , took the press with him and turned it into a fucking circus.
that´s a slap in the face to real rastas, and that bob marley reincarnated is a slap in the face of real reggae fans . i´m not even a big bob marley fan , peter tosh all day when it comes to the wailers but come on .
if you like the music, cool . but don´t take it seriously, lol . another phase.
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(http://cdn.thefader.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/BTN_SnoopLion_final.jpg)
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The album is good, there are a few songs I would take off it, but 10 good songs on there. I watched the movie also, and it was good to see some of the tracks have purpose and a story behind them.
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Lyrically and subject matter this is a great album
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Snoop sold his soul a long ass time ago, now his master wants him to shucke and jive to a new "one world" tune.
Hammer meets nail.
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I just listened to the album and i was surprised. Was way better than i expected. Dont get me wrong, i hope this is a one off and he goes back to Snoop dogg but its actually a well produced album and Snoop dose sound good on some of the songs, despite the fact that the album dose rely heverly on guest features/singers.
Its a positive feel good album. You would need to be in the right mood of course and i have had a few drinks. iam older if i were younger i prolly woulda hated it.
Iam surprised at the single selection. I dont think the singles were the right choice, with guests like Akon and Miley they could chart and some of the songs actually sound like radio songs or club hits so i think he fucked up there.
I dunno, after one listen i didn't mind the album.
Only Snoop could hope to come close to pulling something like this off. He did not a bad job.
Hopefully he goes back to rapping after this but this is ok for something different.
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the album is good and about peace and love
why hate?
This.
He makes an album about shooting bitches and fucking hos in the ass and it's great. Tries some positive shit and gets clowned. :-\
Good for him for making positive music, I think the gripe is that most people don't wanna hear Snoop do reggae music.
Not true for me, I'll listen to anything. Only gripe I have with it is that it's not great music
Nah, that's fair. What I was getting at was that I thought the first single sounded like crap and the whole thing seems to forced and gimmicky that I'm not interested. At the end of the day music quality is all that really matters for me as well. Anyways, I had no expectations for it but people here seem to like it so maybe I'll check it out.
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It's worth a stream but for me it's 'mixtape quality' (you could say amateurish)
5.5/10
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http://www.youtube.com/v/IRJ68cDO7ho
snoop is full of shit
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He's pathetic. Made millions off of advocating violence, murder, pimpin, etc. When that got played out, his masters told him to switch it up to a new character. And now he's saying he's Bob Marley reincarnated? Bob Marley and Snoop don't even belong in the same breath.
Bob Marley was never a fraud and spoke from the heart with his music and fought for the betterment of his people. Snoop tap dances to whatever tune his masters tell him. He's a disgrace to reggae and Rasta culture for exploiting it.
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lol at the dave letterman video.
^i dunno, it could also be called "growing up"
But yeah comparing himself to someone so big i dunno.
I way prefer him as a rapper but the album was kind of enjoyable. See how i feel when i give it a second listen, it did sound more pop than reggae to me though, overall.
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I just listened to the album and i was surprised. Was way better than i expected. Dont get me wrong, i hope this is a one off and he goes back to Snoop dogg but its actually a well produced album and Snoop dose sound good on some of the songs, despite the fact that the album dose rely heverly on guest features/singers.
Its a positive feel good album. You would need to be in the right mood of course and i have had a few drinks. iam older if i were younger i prolly woulda hated it.
Iam surprised at the single selection. I dont think the singles were the right choice, with guests like Akon and Miley they could chart and some of the songs actually sound like radio songs or club hits so i think he fucked up there.
I dunno, after one listen i didn't mind the album.
Only Snoop could hope to come close to pulling something like this off. He did not a bad job.
Hopefully he goes back to rapping after this but this is ok for something different.
I feel the same, I thought it was going to be a corny gimmicky album, but I've been surprised. Some songs are weaker than others, and does rely on guest singers to carry snoop a bit, but I have to admit I've been bumping it heavily for the last few days.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/IRJ68cDO7ho
snoop is full of shit
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Snoop is full of shit
http://www.youtube.com/v/bf5ReCzfy4w
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Snoop's bullshit reggae album wont sell shit! the only reason snoop is popular and is rich is because of Snoop Dogg thats like Metallica switchin up doin a rap album. lmao the only reason Snoop is a star is cuz of his west coast gangsta style rap your a rapper snoop not a singer lmao be a fan doesnt mean you have to go tap into someone elses genre of music stick to the music you know! your album sales will be shit compared to your hip hop albums thats for sure!
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hmmm the only reason why Snoop is still relevant today is because of DROP IT LIKE ITS HOT
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http://www.youtube.com/v/bZhA4z6m0zY