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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Will_B on May 01, 2013, 01:26:47 AM
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Albums sittin around 100 in the iTunes chart :'(
Any figures out there?
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20 385
http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
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20 385
http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Do those figures cover all formats?
Snoop bombed at 20k but will.i.am only did 29k
LOL @ Michael Buble fans buying 200k copies..
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20k is good nowadays, i'm surprised
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20k is good nowadays, i'm surprised
Is it? Kendrick did over 240,000 first week
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CRAP! Album has only a few songs worth listening to. Snoop aint no damn reggae singer YOUR A FAN OF REGGAE SNOOP BE A FAN LIKE THE REST OF US.
Just cuz u got money dont mean you need to go into another mans lane leave that to real reggae artist get back to what you do best thats RAP!
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20k is good nowadays, i'm surprised
ghost made 15k in the 1st week.
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CRAP! Album has only a few songs worth listening to. Snoop aint no damn reggae singer YOUR A FAN OF REGGAE SNOOP BE A FAN LIKE THE REST OF US.
Just cuz u got money dont mean you need to go into another mans lane leave that to real reggae artist get back to what you do best thats RAP!
Snoop is bored of rap tho. Bored because he ain't tryin hard this last 10 years
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LMAO BORED!!!!!!! Dont u think if he could still do it he would, u ever just think that maybe he sucks, lol. He is washed up, maybe all the yrs of chronic smoke killed too many brain cells and he cant rap n e more, lmao. BORED FUCK! And how tha hell does a Dog Reincarnate as a Lion. Shitty album title, stupid name change, i think he needs to lay off tha Ganja if he ever hopes to Resurrect his career.
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I can't think that its too bad because Will I AM only did like 29k with hit singles...besides Snoop has not seen gold since the BCT album and that was 7 years ago
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I can't think that its too bad because Will I AM only did like 29k with hit singles...besides Snoop has not seen gold since the BCT album and that was 7 years ago
I love the fact that Will with all that forced down the public's throat singles, and shoved in the public's face media coverage still doesn't convince many people to spend their money. You wanna sell make good music, timeless music. His shit is 3 month music at best,
Mike
MLSF
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20k is good nowadays, i'm surprised
Word... 20K is not bad. The album definitely deserves to blow up though. That joint with Miley Cyrus will be a hit if radio gives it a fair chance.
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I wonder if in 5-10 years people will be like:
"No, it did really well... 6 copies is really good nowadays, Eminem sold 7 copies and he had like 20 hit singles on that album and
was on all the talk shows and award shows... I hear his album is gonna push up to the 8 albums sold mark pretty soon."
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20k is good nowadays, i'm surprised
Is it? Kendrick did over 240,000 first week
and xzibit did 3,000.....the game aint the same. plus, kendrick came out on interscope surrounded by the most hype for a rapper in years. horrible comparison to begin with.
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I can't think that its too bad because Will I AM only did like 29k with hit singles...besides Snoop has not seen gold since the BCT album and that was 7 years ago
exactly...will i am is doin 29k with the interscope machine, with his single all over tv (it's actually the official song of the nba playoffs).....the game aint the same
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they should release music on a format that self destructs that way if you really like a song you have to keep buying that shit over and over
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20k is good nowadays, i'm surprised
Is it? Kendrick did over 240,000 first week
and xzibit did 3,000.....the game aint the same. plus, kendrick came out on interscope surrounded by the most hype for a rapper in years. horrible comparison to begin with.
How was it horrible? If Kendrick can do it off the talent and the buzz, how come an established artist like Snoop can't.
You can't give the argument 'rap don't sell' anymore. It's just ideas that are old and played out.
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20k is good nowadays, i'm surprised
Is it? Kendrick did over 240,000 first week
and xzibit did 3,000.....the game aint the same. plus, kendrick came out on interscope surrounded by the most hype for a rapper in years. horrible comparison to begin with.
How was it horrible? If Kendrick can do it off the talent and the buzz, how come an established artist like Snoop can't.
You can't give the argument 'rap don't sell' anymore. It's just ideas that are old and played out.
INTERSCOPE MACHINE...I KNOW U AINT IN AMERICA, BUT SNOOP'S SHIT DONT EVEN GET PLAYED ON THE RADIO, IN CLUBS, ETC. ETC....KENDRICK'S DOES, SIMPLE AS THAT.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
Regardless of promotion will.i.am is one of the worlds so called mega stars. I mean how many followers these people got on twitter etc yet they can't sell a few thousand albums.
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whats funny is everyone online disses ppl that download new music illegally etc. lmao these punk ass rappers selling 28 copies these days but everyone knows the songs and the concerts be packed...SOMEONES downloading that shit.
its one of those things everyone does but no one talks about like animal sacrifices....or maybe thats just me on that one.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
xzibit did horrible...this is mediocre, at worst. if u were expecting anything above 30k first week, u were being unreasonable.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
xzibit did horrible...this is mediocre, at worst. if u were expecting anything above 30k first week, u were being unreasonable.
First Will i am and now Xzibit. Why do you keep bringing up other names? This is a thread about Snoop and Snoop sold horribly. Saying "such and such rapper didn't sell either" doesn't change that. You can bring up anyone on the planet who's put out an album. Doesn't change the fact that Snoop didn't sell shit.
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Tyler did 90k
Tyga did 50k
Game did 90k
Kendrick did 200k+
Snoop did 20k, that is hilarious!! But to Snoops defense he hasn't put out a good album since Ego Trippin', this reggae album is terrible. Snoop pushing 20k can only be attributed to not being a good businessman, same goes for Xzibit and a lot of these older artist.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
xzibit did horrible...this is mediocre, at worst. if u were expecting anything above 30k first week, u were being unreasonable.
First Will i am and now Xzibit. Why do you keep bringing up other names? This is a thread about Snoop and Snoop sold horribly. Saying "such and such rapper didn't sell either" doesn't change that. You can bring up anyone on the planet who's put out an album. Doesn't change the fact that Snoop didn't sell shit.
the only way u can tell if numbers are horrible is when comparing to other numbers LOL....it's common sense, brobro
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
xzibit did horrible...this is mediocre, at worst. if u were expecting anything above 30k first week, u were being unreasonable.
First Will i am and now Xzibit. Why do you keep bringing up other names? This is a thread about Snoop and Snoop sold horribly. Saying "such and such rapper didn't sell either" doesn't change that. You can bring up anyone on the planet who's put out an album. Doesn't change the fact that Snoop didn't sell shit.
the only way u can tell if numbers are horrible is when comparing to other numbers LOL....it's common sense, brobro
Let me put it this way. If you and I are in math class together, and we both get Fs, It doesn't mean you didn't flunk. You still end up with an F.
Snoop got an F in record sales.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
xzibit did horrible...this is mediocre, at worst. if u were expecting anything above 30k first week, u were being unreasonable.
First Will i am and now Xzibit. Why do you keep bringing up other names? This is a thread about Snoop and Snoop sold horribly. Saying "such and such rapper didn't sell either" doesn't change that. You can bring up anyone on the planet who's put out an album. Doesn't change the fact that Snoop didn't sell shit.
the only way u can tell if numbers are horrible is when comparing to other numbers LOL....it's common sense, brobro
Let me put it this way. If you and I are in math class together, and we both get Fs, It doesn't mean you didn't flunk. You still end up with an F.
Snoop got an F in record sales.
thats where comparisons come in...20,000 is not an F. if xzibit got an F with 3,000, snoop got a C....if Tyga sold 50k in his first week, ud be insane to think snoop can come anywhere close to matching Tyga numbers. thats where comparisons play a role, because expected sales go up-and-down based on the mean of the industry.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
xzibit did horrible...this is mediocre, at worst. if u were expecting anything above 30k first week, u were being unreasonable.
First Will i am and now Xzibit. Why do you keep bringing up other names? This is a thread about Snoop and Snoop sold horribly. Saying "such and such rapper didn't sell either" doesn't change that. You can bring up anyone on the planet who's put out an album. Doesn't change the fact that Snoop didn't sell shit.
the only way u can tell if numbers are horrible is when comparing to other numbers LOL....it's common sense, brobro
Let me put it this way. If you and I are in math class together, and we both get Fs, It doesn't mean you didn't flunk. You still end up with an F.
Snoop got an F in record sales.
thats where comparisons come in...20,000 is not an F. if xzibit got an F with 3,000, snoop got a C....if Tyga sold 50k in his first week, ud be insane to think snoop can come anywhere close to matching Tyga numbers. thats where comparisons play a role, because expected sales go up-and-down based on the mean of the industry.
C? You're out of your mind. 20k is not an industry standard at any level. To top it all off you're comparing Snoop to a rapper who has been out of the game for 6 years and who's last album sold 17k first week. Snoop did horrible. Xzibit did worse. But this isn't an Xzibit thread.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
xzibit did horrible...this is mediocre, at worst. if u were expecting anything above 30k first week, u were being unreasonable.
First Will i am and now Xzibit. Why do you keep bringing up other names? This is a thread about Snoop and Snoop sold horribly. Saying "such and such rapper didn't sell either" doesn't change that. You can bring up anyone on the planet who's put out an album. Doesn't change the fact that Snoop didn't sell shit.
the only way u can tell if numbers are horrible is when comparing to other numbers LOL....it's common sense, brobro
Let me put it this way. If you and I are in math class together, and we both get Fs, It doesn't mean you didn't flunk. You still end up with an F.
Snoop got an F in record sales.
thats where comparisons come in...20,000 is not an F. if xzibit got an F with 3,000, snoop got a C....if Tyga sold 50k in his first week, ud be insane to think snoop can come anywhere close to matching Tyga numbers. thats where comparisons play a role, because expected sales go up-and-down based on the mean of the industry.
C? You're out of your mind. 20k is not an industry standard at any level. To top it all off you're comparing Snoop to a rapper who has been out of the game for 6 years and who's last album sold 17k first week. Snoop did horrible. Xzibit did worse. But this isn't an Xzibit thread.
so u think snoop should be getting tyga numbers with 1/100th of the promo? come on, now. it's not realistic.
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
xzibit did horrible...this is mediocre, at worst. if u were expecting anything above 30k first week, u were being unreasonable.
First Will i am and now Xzibit. Why do you keep bringing up other names? This is a thread about Snoop and Snoop sold horribly. Saying "such and such rapper didn't sell either" doesn't change that. You can bring up anyone on the planet who's put out an album. Doesn't change the fact that Snoop didn't sell shit.
the only way u can tell if numbers are horrible is when comparing to other numbers LOL....it's common sense, brobro
Let me put it this way. If you and I are in math class together, and we both get Fs, It doesn't mean you didn't flunk. You still end up with an F.
Snoop got an F in record sales.
thats where comparisons come in...20,000 is not an F. if xzibit got an F with 3,000, snoop got a C....if Tyga sold 50k in his first week, ud be insane to think snoop can come anywhere close to matching Tyga numbers. thats where comparisons play a role, because expected sales go up-and-down based on the mean of the industry.
C? You're out of your mind. 20k is not an industry standard at any level. To top it all off you're comparing Snoop to a rapper who has been out of the game for 6 years and who's last album sold 17k first week. Snoop did horrible. Xzibit did worse. But this isn't an Xzibit thread.
so u think snoop should be getting tyga numbers with 1/100th of the promo? come on, now. it's not realistic.
Snoop getting worldwide love tho Nik. Noone in the UK knows who the fuck Tyga is for a start. Then you got all the Diplo fans. Snoop got hella good free promo in the media for for this with the name change. Not to mention the film got worldwide festival screenings and even in the Cinema in London here.
All that and Snoop got dick sakes wise
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Honestly, I heard a lot more about this album than Tyga's, Snoop had a lot of media hype around the name change, altercations with Bunny Wailer, and the documentary. Snoop had good promo. The fact is the music was shit, he had no singles worth playing on radio, and the sales reflect that.
Snoop is an artist with an established fanbase, he should be able to do 50k no problem. This is a weak effort from Snoop, and hopefully a reality check that the music is trash.
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Honestly, I heard a lot more about this album than Tyga's, Snoop had a lot of media hype around the name change, altercations with Bunny Wailer, and the documentary. Snoop had good promo. The fact is the music was shit, he had no singles worth playing on radio, and the sales reflect that.
Snoop is an artist with an established fanbase, he should be able to do 50k no problem. This is a weak effort from Snoop, and hopefully a reality check that the music is trash.
Pretty much.
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I would listen to this album over a couple Snoop Dogg rap albums any day. I really dont mind the album for what it is. There are obviously a few tracks I realy dont care for it. I made my own playlist and cut the album down to about 10 tracks and I think its pretty good.
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I agree with u P! Smoke the weed is the shit
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Honestly, I heard a lot more about this album than Tyga's, Snoop had a lot of media hype around the name change, altercations with Bunny Wailer, and the documentary. Snoop had good promo. The fact is the music was shit, he had no singles worth playing on radio, and the sales reflect that.
Snoop is an artist with an established fanbase, he should be able to do 50k no problem. This is a weak effort from Snoop, and hopefully a reality check that the music is trash.
Basically this. Tyga may be on Young Money, but his album didn't have much hype and he had no big singles. I have a hard time even remembering Tyga has an album out. 20k is a flop for any artist on a major label.
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Tyga had less promotion then Snoop, Tyler & Game also had less promotion and they both pushed 90k. 20k for Snoopdogg is pathetic, someone with his level of celebrity should be able to push out more then 20k first week. It is for sure an F and shows that Snoop after all these years still doesn't know what he is doing.
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Snoop cannot sell records anymore, only venues
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Tyga had less promotion then Snoop, Tyler & Game also had less promotion and they both pushed 90k. 20k for Snoopdogg is pathetic, someone with his level of celebrity should be able to push out more then 20k first week. It is for sure an F and shows that Snoop after all these years still doesn't know what he is doing.
I GUESS WHEN U PUT IT LIKE THAT..
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lol just because Will i am bombed doesn't mean Snoop did good.
with the promotion it got, it was good
By promotion do you mean no one being interested in playing his shit? Snoop did horrible. Period. Stop trying to assign the word "good" to 20k.
xzibit did horrible...this is mediocre, at worst. if u were expecting anything above 30k first week, u were being unreasonable.
First Will i am and now Xzibit. Why do you keep bringing up other names? This is a thread about Snoop and Snoop sold horribly. Saying "such and such rapper didn't sell either" doesn't change that. You can bring up anyone on the planet who's put out an album. Doesn't change the fact that Snoop didn't sell shit.
the only way u can tell if numbers are horrible is when comparing to other numbers LOL....it's common sense, brobro
Let me put it this way. If you and I are in math class together, and we both get Fs, It doesn't mean you didn't flunk. You still end up with an F.
Snoop got an F in record sales.
thats where comparisons come in...20,000 is not an F. if xzibit got an F with 3,000, snoop got a C....if Tyga sold 50k in his first week, ud be insane to think snoop can come anywhere close to matching Tyga numbers. thats where comparisons play a role, because expected sales go up-and-down based on the mean of the industry.
C? You're out of your mind. 20k is not an industry standard at any level. To top it all off you're comparing Snoop to a rapper who has been out of the game for 6 years and who's last album sold 17k first week. Snoop did horrible. Xzibit did worse. But this isn't an Xzibit thread.
so u think snoop should be getting tyga numbers with 1/100th of the promo? come on, now. it's not realistic.
Snoop getting worldwide love tho Nik. Noone in the UK knows who the fuck Tyga is for a start. Then you got all the Diplo fans. Snoop got hella good free promo in the media for for this with the name change. Not to mention the film got worldwide festival screenings and even in the Cinema in London here.
All that and Snoop got dick sakes wise
THESE NUMBERS ARE JUST USA, I BELIEVE..TYGA IS CURRENTLY A MUCH BIGGER NAME OUT HERE THAN SNOOP LION, SO I EXPECTED THESE NUMBERS.
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Honestly, I heard a lot more about this album than Tyga's, Snoop had a lot of media hype around the name change, altercations with Bunny Wailer, and the documentary. Snoop had good promo. The fact is the music was shit, he had no singles worth playing on radio, and the sales reflect that.
Snoop is an artist with an established fanbase, he should be able to do 50k no problem. This is a weak effort from Snoop, and hopefully a reality check that the music is trash.
YEA, CUZ U POST AT DUBCC LOL
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Tyler did 90k
Tyga did 50k
Game did 90k
Kendrick did 200k+
Snoop did 20k, that is hilarious!! But to Snoops defense he hasn't put out a good album since Ego Trippin', this reggae album is terrible. Snoop pushing 20k can only be attributed to not being a good businessman, same goes for Xzibit and a lot of these older artist.
That is totall bullshit about Snoop not having a good album since Ego Trippin'. Doggumentary was just as good or even better then Ego trip . so it just shows you have no fucking clue what you are talking about .
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Tyler did 90k
Tyga did 50k
Game did 90k
Kendrick did 200k+
Snoop did 20k, that is hilarious!! But to Snoops defense he hasn't put out a good album since Ego Trippin', this reggae album is terrible. Snoop pushing 20k can only be attributed to not being a good businessman, same goes for Xzibit and a lot of these older artist.
That is totall bullshit about Snoop not having a good album since Ego Trippin'. Doggumentary was just as good or even better then Ego trip . so it just shows you have no fucking clue what you are talking about .
Pretty much
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Honestly, I heard a lot more about this album than Tyga's, Snoop had a lot of media hype around the name change, altercations with Bunny Wailer, and the documentary. Snoop had good promo. The fact is the music was shit, he had no singles worth playing on radio, and the sales reflect that.
Snoop is an artist with an established fanbase, he should be able to do 50k no problem. This is a weak effort from Snoop, and hopefully a reality check that the music is trash.
YEA, CUZ U POST AT DUBCC LOL
Haha, I barely check this site anymore bro. I'm talking facebook, hiphopdx, the coli, complex etc.
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The bottom line is that 20k is horrible for a mainstream artist on a major label, especially one with Snoop's name. Do you think Snoop's camp are looking at Tyga's numbers and patting themselves on the back? Hell no, they're looking at THEIR money coming in and the amount of people interested in THEIR product. That's what matters. If anything, Snoop should feel bad that another west coast artist isn't doing so hot.
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I wonder what WOULD sell though... him getting more obviously catchy rap singles?
Like if he somehow made something that was as good as Doggystyle, in the same sort of style,
would that sell?
I'd like to think it would just because nothing has been made that is as dope as that in years and years
and years... but maybe people would just ignore it, I don't know.
I think Snoop's fanbase is:
- Casual fans who like some of his catchy hit songs
- People who are following him to see if he will ever make something anywhere near as dope as Doggystyle again
The thing with his new reggae album is it doesn't really cover either, even though it's got some nice stuff on it.
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I wonder what WOULD sell though... him getting more obviously catchy rap singles?
Like if he somehow made something that was as good as Doggystyle, in the same sort of style,
would that sell?
I'd like to think it would just because nothing has been made that is as dope as that in years and years
and years... but maybe people would just ignore it, I don't know.
I think Snoop's fanbase is:
- Casual fans who like some of his catchy hit songs
- People who are following him to see if he will ever make something anywhere near as dope as Doggystyle again
The thing with his new reggae album is it doesn't really cover either, even though it's got some nice stuff on it.
what would sell is if he did what has fans wanted........west coast gangsta shit with an authentic sound. simple as that.
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Tyler did 90k
Tyga did 50k
Game did 90k
Kendrick did 200k+
Snoop did 20k, that is hilarious!! But to Snoops defense he hasn't put out a good album since Ego Trippin', this reggae album is terrible. Snoop pushing 20k can only be attributed to not being a good businessman, same goes for Xzibit and a lot of these older artist.
That is totall bullshit about Snoop not having a good album since Ego Trippin'. Doggumentary was just as good or even better then Ego trip . so it just shows you have no fucking clue what you are talking about .
Oh okay...
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I wonder what WOULD sell though... him getting more obviously catchy rap singles?
Like if he somehow made something that was as good as Doggystyle, in the same sort of style,
would that sell?
I'd like to think it would just because nothing has been made that is as dope as that in years and years
and years... but maybe people would just ignore it, I don't know.
I think Snoop's fanbase is:
- Casual fans who like some of his catchy hit songs
- People who are following him to see if he will ever make something anywhere near as dope as Doggystyle again
The thing with his new reggae album is it doesn't really cover either, even though it's got some nice stuff on it.
The thing is that he is turning off a big portion of his followers with this album. And as it has no hit singles, the casual fans aren't going to check it out either. I think the only people buying this album are the die hards who will try hard to like anything Snoop puts out.
Going pop only works if it results in attention and popularity. Snoop could at least make an album appealing to his fanbase, though a lot of them have given up on him after all the trash he's put out. I'm not even checking for Snoop anymore.
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Well putting out quality music is what gets you fans ,and having fans means your record will sell. I guess Snoop is fading, on quality and fans, and thats the bottom line.
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I wonder what WOULD sell though... him getting more obviously catchy rap singles?
Like if he somehow made something that was as good as Doggystyle, in the same sort of style,
would that sell?
I'd like to think it would just because nothing has been made that is as dope as that in years and years
and years... but maybe people would just ignore it, I don't know.
I think Snoop's fanbase is:
- Casual fans who like some of his catchy hit songs
- People who are following him to see if he will ever make something anywhere near as dope as Doggystyle again
The thing with his new reggae album is it doesn't really cover either, even though it's got some nice stuff on it.
Nas just released an album for his core fan base in "Life Is Good" that was also a step in the right direction content wise for his age, and he got critical and commercial success. Snoops just lost his way.
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Since Ted chung is with snoop it Went Down
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I've noticed that in every interview , they ask him if he would bring his positive grown up vibe to the Snoop Dogg persona and he keeps saying that its impossible. Probably because he is an immature individual