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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: iDontTrip on May 02, 2013, 10:59:57 PM
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aite im lit asfuck..STILL bumpin this old ruthless/dr shit and feel like conversating on some history :D 8)..
so obviously the beef wouldof still have gone on a little longer if eazy had not of died in march 95..the beef probably woulda been goin on till death row
started havin their own problems around late 96...
if you remember on 'wut would u do'
eazy gives some positive advice to the dogg pound at the end of the track instead of shittalkin
he would play em on his ruthless radio show so there was no real animosty..atl was homies with snoop and even bgko was cool wit snoop by 95..
what kept it goin was the side beefs between the artists in their camps but by 97/98 all the beef kinda ended...on some "what would have happen" type shit i think
that if eazy had lived after firing heller, dre/snoop/dpg would have gone to ruthless after tupac died and suge went to prison
with eazy dead or not death row still wouldof gone down hill regardless cause of suge knights shady tacticts..west coast music probably would have been way more relevant today if eazy *the real ''king'' of the west :-X* would still be livin'.. so much "what ifs" on this nigga E..the underdog "real nigga #1" represented where he was from FORREAL tho..dude deserves his respect and recognition for this west coast shit and more ;) ;)
8) 8) 8) RIP E'
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aite im lit asfuck..STILL bumpin this old ruthless/dr shit and feel like conversating on some history :D 8)..
so obviously the beef wouldof still have gone on a little longer if eazy had not of died in march 95..the beef probably woulda been goin on till death row
started havin their own problems around late 96...
if you remember on 'wut would u do'
eazy gives some positive advice to the dogg pound at the end of the track instead of shittalkin
he would play em on his ruthless radio show so there was no real animosty..atl was homies with snoop and even bgko was cool wit snoop by 95..
what kept it goin was the side beefs between the artists in their camps but by 97/98 all the beef kinda ended...on some "what would have happen" type shit i think
that if eazy had lived after firing heller, dre/snoop/dpg would have gone to ruthless after tupac died and suge went to prison
with eazy dead or not death row still wouldof gone down hill regardless cause of suge knights shady tacticts..west coast music probably would have been way more relevant today if eazy *the real ''king'' of the west :-X* would still be livin'.. so much "what ifs" on this nigga E..the underdog "real nigga #1" represented where he was from FORREAL tho..dude deserves his respect and recognition for this west coast shit and more ;) ;)
8) 8) 8) RIP E'
couldn't agree more with you homeboy, eazy is still the real king of the westcoast regardless :)
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They would have squashed it. They were already talking about it when Eazy was still alive. I doubt Dre would have been on Ruthless again after he left but there would likely have been an N.W.A. reunion.
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aite im lit asfuck..STILL bumpin this old ruthless/dr shit and feel like conversating on some history :D 8)..
so obviously the beef wouldof still have gone on a little longer if eazy had not of died in march 95..the beef probably woulda been goin on till death row
started havin their own problems around late 96...
if you remember on 'wut would u do'
eazy gives some positive advice to the dogg pound at the end of the track instead of shittalkin
he would play em on his ruthless radio show so there was no real animosty..atl was homies with snoop and even bgko was cool wit snoop by 95..
what kept it goin was the side beefs between the artists in their camps but by 97/98 all the beef kinda ended...on some "what would have happen" type shit i think
that if eazy had lived after firing heller, dre/snoop/dpg would have gone to ruthless after tupac died and suge went to prison
with eazy dead or not death row still wouldof gone down hill regardless cause of suge knights shady tacticts..west coast music probably would have been way more relevant today if eazy *the real ''king'' of the west :-X* would still be livin'.. so much "what ifs" on this nigga E..the underdog "real nigga #1" represented where he was from FORREAL tho..dude deserves his respect and recognition for this west coast shit and more ;) ;)
8) 8) 8) RIP E'
couldn't agree more with you homeboy, eazy is still the real king of the westcoast regardless :)
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Dr Dre no he wanted to have his own lable i dont think he would be intreasted in any deal where he isnt the boss
Snoop Dogg no I dont think he would of trusted Eazy business wise
but i could seee Daz and Kurupt going to Ruthless especialy Kurupt considiring he went to deathrow again!
probly would of worked off better than it did for ruthless artist who went to Daethrow after Eazy passed
like Dresta and Cold187um.
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I doubt Ruthless but i think they would've reunited for sure.
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Dr Dre no he wanted to have his own lable i dont think he would be intreasted in any deal where he isnt the boss
I'm not sure I agree with that. I think had either Eazy or Suge played their cards right, they could have kept Dre around. Jimmy Iovine, love him or hate him, gave Dre what he wanted. He's got someone handling the business side of things while he works with the artists. I feel Eazy's biggest mistake was he underpaid Dre on his contract. I mean, the big punch line was how Eazy was making all these points on Dre's Death Row work but if he'd kept the guy happy and paid and set him up with his own deal at Ruthless, it would have been huge for them. Same with Suge. He had Pac, Snoop, and Dr. Dre. Even if all three of them could not stand each other. By 1996, all three of them could have had their own studios and sub-divisions and developed their own talent. That's why credit goes to Jimmy on this one. Once Dre had developed Eminem and 50 Cent, they each had their own label, own artists, movies, movie soundtracks. The divide and conquer thing doesn't work when it is people making you money.
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Dr Dre no he wanted to have his own label i don't think he would be interested in any deal where he isn't the boss
I'm not sure I agree with that. I think had either Eazy or Suge played their cards right, they could have kept Dre around. Jimmy Iovine, love him or hate him, gave Dre what he wanted. He's got someone handling the business side of things while he works with the artists. I feel Eazy's biggest mistake was he underpaid Dre on his contract. I mean, the big punch line was how Eazy was making all these points on Dre's Death Row work but if he'd kept the guy happy and paid and set him up with his own deal at Ruthless, it would have been huge for them. Same with Suge. He had Pac, Snoop, and Dr. Dre. Even if all three of them could not stand each other. By 1996, all three of them could have had their own studios and sub-divisions and developed their own talent. That's why credit goes to Jimmy on this one. Once Dre had developed Eminem and 50 Cent, they each had their own label, own artists, movies, movie soundtracks. The divide and conquer thing doesn't work when it is people making you money.
I think your talking more about Dre staying at ruthless but the question was would he go back which probably would of been a really weak look for Dre.
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I really doubt that they would've went to Ruthless.
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Dr Dre no he wanted to have his own label i don't think he would be interested in any deal where he isn't the boss
I'm not sure I agree with that. I think had either Eazy or Suge played their cards right, they could have kept Dre around. Jimmy Iovine, love him or hate him, gave Dre what he wanted. He's got someone handling the business side of things while he works with the artists. I feel Eazy's biggest mistake was he underpaid Dre on his contract. I mean, the big punch line was how Eazy was making all these points on Dre's Death Row work but if he'd kept the guy happy and paid and set him up with his own deal at Ruthless, it would have been huge for them. Same with Suge. He had Pac, Snoop, and Dr. Dre. Even if all three of them could not stand each other. By 1996, all three of them could have had their own studios and sub-divisions and developed their own talent. That's why credit goes to Jimmy on this one. Once Dre had developed Eminem and 50 Cent, they each had their own label, own artists, movies, movie soundtracks. The divide and conquer thing doesn't work when it is people making you money.
I think your talking more about Dre staying at ruthless but the question was would he go back which probably would of been a really weak look for Dre.
but dre had some shit in his contract where if he ever left interscope he automatically went back to ruthless.
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death row was supposed to be "def row" under ruthless wit dre executive producing by himself..
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Dr Dre no he wanted to have his own label i don't think he would be interested in any deal where he isn't the boss
I'm not sure I agree with that. I think had either Eazy or Suge played their cards right, they could have kept Dre around. Jimmy Iovine, love him or hate him, gave Dre what he wanted. He's got someone handling the business side of things while he works with the artists. I feel Eazy's biggest mistake was he underpaid Dre on his contract. I mean, the big punch line was how Eazy was making all these points on Dre's Death Row work but if he'd kept the guy happy and paid and set him up with his own deal at Ruthless, it would have been huge for them. Same with Suge. He had Pac, Snoop, and Dr. Dre. Even if all three of them could not stand each other. By 1996, all three of them could have had their own studios and sub-divisions and developed their own talent. That's why credit goes to Jimmy on this one. Once Dre had developed Eminem and 50 Cent, they each had their own label, own artists, movies, movie soundtracks. The divide and conquer thing doesn't work when it is people making you money.
I think your talking more about Dre staying at ruthless but the question was would he go back which probably would of been a really weak look for Dre.
but dre had some shit in his contract where if he ever left interscope he automatically went back to ruthless.
oh right i didnt know that where did you here that?
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this thread is skewed in the sense it's assuming Pac would have still died
what if both Pac and Eazy never died? i bet Snoop and DPG don't need to leave Death Row because Pac would be dropping more classic shit and starting Death Row East
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i read in blaze magazine snoop tried to get daz to sign at no limit but daz seen his chance to be the biggest star on deathrow and couldnt walk away from it then pretty much got stuck there when simon went in.
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Dr Dre no he wanted to have his own label i don't think he would be interested in any deal where he isn't the boss
I'm not sure I agree with that. I think had either Eazy or Suge played their cards right, they could have kept Dre around. Jimmy Iovine, love him or hate him, gave Dre what he wanted. He's got someone handling the business side of things while he works with the artists. I feel Eazy's biggest mistake was he underpaid Dre on his contract. I mean, the big punch line was how Eazy was making all these points on Dre's Death Row work but if he'd kept the guy happy and paid and set him up with his own deal at Ruthless, it would have been huge for them. Same with Suge. He had Pac, Snoop, and Dr. Dre. Even if all three of them could not stand each other. By 1996, all three of them could have had their own studios and sub-divisions and developed their own talent. That's why credit goes to Jimmy on this one. Once Dre had developed Eminem and 50 Cent, they each had their own label, own artists, movies, movie soundtracks. The divide and conquer thing doesn't work when it is people making you money.
I think your talking more about Dre staying at ruthless but the question was would he go back which probably would of been a really weak look for Dre.
but dre had some shit in his contract where if he ever left interscope he automatically went back to ruthless.
oh right i didnt know that where did you here that?
it was an excerpt out a magazine. i'm not sure if it came from eazy or jimmy iovine though.
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i read in blaze magazine snoop tried to get daz to sign at no limit but daz seen his chance to be the biggest star on deathrow and couldnt walk away from it then pretty much got stuck there when simon went in.
Never knew that. I wonder if that had somethin' to do with Snoop's and Daz's beef.
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i read in blaze magazine snoop tried to get daz to sign at no limit but daz seen his chance to be the biggest star on deathrow and couldnt walk away from it then pretty much got stuck there when simon went in.
Never knew that. I wonder if that had somethin' to do with Snoop's and Daz's beef.
death row jumped snoop after he signed wit p and i think after that snoop didn't want shit to do wit anybody down wit death row at that point.
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Oh yeah, you're right. I don't think Daz was there though. It was at the '99 Source Awards. Swoop G, Tha Realest and some others started fightin with people.
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yeah Snoop also resented the fact that his cousin would be working on unreleased snoop material and making money over work snoop had done and would never be compensated for.
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Oh yeah, you're right. I don't think Daz was there though. It was at the '99 Source Awards. Swoop G, Tha Realest and some others started fightin with people.
he got got jumped at a venue in may '98 and the odd thing about it was daz and soopafly was wit him although they were still on death row. what did snoop get into at the source awards ?
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I'm not sure what happened, but people from Death Row started a huge fight at the awards. I'm not sure if it was 1999 or 2000 though. E-40 was fightin' with Mac Minista too and i think it's the same year when DJ Quik got "beat up" by the police before he even got inside the awards. Are you talkin' about when supposedly Snoop, Soopafly and Daz got ran out of some event and yelled at the police for help? Wasn't that another story from somebody from Death Row? You can't know if it's true for sure.
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I'm not sure what happened, but people from Death Row started a huge fight at the awards. I'm not sure if it was 1999 or 2000 though. E-40 was fightin' with Mac Minista too and i think it's the same year when DJ Quik got "beat up" by the police before he even got inside the awards. Are you talkin' about when supposedly Snoop, Soopafly and Daz got ran out of some event and yelled at the police for help? Wasn't that another story from somebody from Death Row? You can't know if it's true for sure.
the source shit was 2000. yup niggas from death row beat up snoop and then snoop and them ran to the police for help, the police smelled weed on them, and locked them up.
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prodigy (mobb deep) said in his book that snoop and his crew ran except for tray deee, tray deee he took on 6 guys and knocked them all out. he said after that he had much respect for big tray deee.
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prodigy (mobb deep) said in his book that snoop and his crew ran except for tray deee, tray deee he took on 6 guys and knocked them all out. he said after that he had much respect for big tray deee.
damn snoop. LOL
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daz is scratching on snoops first no limit album then DPG did a track on the foolish stdk after that.
when all this was going on they were all on live from LA (bet show) doing kurupts we can freak it and they asked daz and basically daz said "im where ever the money at"
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Does anyone have any footage from that source awards fight??? I know there was some getting around years ago and I think The Source was at on stage bringing out a dvd that was going to feature the fight but dont know if it ever came out.
I dont know about the DPG running away but in the footage you sure do see Big Tray Deee getting his scrap on. I think he fights on stage until him and the deathrow guys are maced to the ground by the police.
Mac Minister got fucked up by E-40 and the Click and also the Cash Money crew, I think Mac Minister tried to snatch E40's chain and was trying to say E-40 had been biting his style lol Dude got put in hospital.
Was also heaps of photos of The Outlaws fighting in the crowd with some people, not sure who they were.
I also heard that Bone Thugs N Harmony got beat down that night.
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the whole source awards fight was supposed to be on deathrow uncut but i dont think it happened.
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i read in blaze magazine snoop tried to get daz to sign at no limit but daz seen his chance to be the biggest star on deathrow and couldnt walk away from it then pretty much got stuck there when simon went in.
Dammit so you're telling me we could've got Gangsta Crunk back in 98?
Lol. That is interesting tho considering how much Southern shit Daz has attempted over the years. He probably could've given us something dope back then.
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i read in blaze magazine snoop tried to get daz to sign at no limit but daz seen his chance to be the biggest star on deathrow and couldnt walk away from it then pretty much got stuck there when simon went in.
Dammit so you're telling me we could've got Gangsta Crunk back in 98?
Lol. That is interesting tho considering how much Southern shit Daz has attempted over the years. He probably could've given us something dope back then.
Well his first Southern song, so to speak, was "Tommy Boy" with Snoop which has to date back to 1995 or something like that. Some "Southern" songs coming from Daz have been dope though (songs ala "Now That's Gangsta" and some songs off So So Gangsta). I'm sure it wouldn't have been as good as RR&GB though.
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you did it again bouli so often in a thread im going to make a remark and then i scroll down to see you typed verbatim what i was thinking.
tommyboy was suposed to be a southern record
alot of ppl in the south consider bomb ass pussy southern music with the heavy 808s too...that record was huge in texas.
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p'z to codeine
presskitt for the original Str8 off tha Streetz
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p'z to codeine
presskitt for the original Str8 off tha Streetz
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classic. i wonder what those quik beats woulda sounded like. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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I dont know how true but i heard Eazy made a song with Slash from Guns N Roses at that time, never been released as far as i know. I always heard alot of things for that second album were almost done and there was about 60 unreleased Eazy tracks at the time of his death.
They should find out where these ended up.
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I dont know how true but i heard Eazy made a song with Slash from Guns N Roses at that time, never been released as far as i know. I always heard alot of things for that second album were almost done and there was about 60 unreleased Eazy tracks at the time of his death.
They should find out where these ended up.
real talk. my only thing is if they ever come out they need to be in og form.
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Yeah I agree not remixed and new age rappers added like they did with Pac's songs
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I dont know how true but i heard Eazy made a song with Slash from Guns N Roses at that time, never been released as far as i know. I always heard alot of things for that second album were almost done and there was about 60 unreleased Eazy tracks at the time of his death.
They should find out where these ended up.
that is true and many have cosigned that thru the years
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i remember Rhythm D said he had a nice amount of eazy tracks he was gunna release
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i remember Rhythm D said he had a nice amount of eazy tracks he was gunna release
u probably talkin' about that garbage ass impact of a legend ep.
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prodigy (mobb deep) said in his book that snoop and his crew ran except for tray deee, tray deee he took on 6 guys and knocked them all out. he said after that he had much respect for big tray deee.
8) yep. tray deee isn't a bitch like Snoop
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i remember Rhythm D said he had a nice amount of eazy tracks he was gunna release
u probably talkin' about that garbage ass impact of a legend ep.
That was aiight.. But I thought he had some more shit. Or was that all?
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i remember Rhythm D said he had a nice amount of eazy tracks he was gunna release
u probably talkin' about that garbage ass impact of a legend ep.
That was aiight.. But I thought he had some more shit. Or was that all?
I think that was it.
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tray d was alwyas a fucken g