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Jerry Heller claims that Eazy-E wanted to kill Suge Knight. "I should have let him kill him," Heller says. "I would have done the world a favor."
According to Ruthless Records co-founder Jerry Heller, Eazy-E wanted to kill Suge Knight. Heller recently revealed this in a radio interview, claiming that Eazy wanted to kill Knight and that he feels he "should have let him" do it.
In an interview with Prezident Bejda of The Murder Master Music Show, Heller explained how this conversation took place.
"Eazy said, 'You know this guy Suge Knight?' I said, 'Yeah.' He says, 'Well, I'm gonna kill him!' He said, 'This guy is gonna be a problem and I think I should kill him.' I said, 'Let me think this thing through. First of all, we're doing $10 million a month with six employees. We don't even have a typewriter in the office. We're the most successful start-up record company in the history of the music business and you want to kill this guy? That just doesn't make any sense to me.'"
Heller then explained that he regrets talking Eazy out of it.
"You know something? I should have let him kill him. You know? I would have done the world a favor. He would have done it for sure by himself. He always rolled by himself and he was fearless...I think that he was going to go do it. I took him seriously."
"He was right and I was wrong," he later added. "I shouldn't have talked him out of it. Ruthless would probably still be around. Dr. Dre and Ice Cube would probably still be with Ruthless. It would have been an empire."
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eazy was about that life and most likely would have smoked suge. 8)
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eazy was about that life and most likely would have smoked suge. 8)
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Suge had nothing to do with Cube leaving. It paints an interesting picture of Jerry Heller that he would condone a black businessman killing another one in the name of being able to make more money for his own business interests.
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Suge had nothing to do with Cube leaving. It paints an interesting picture of Jerry Heller that he would condone a black businessman killing another one in the name of being able to make more money for his own business interests.
jerry didn't say he did you gotta listen to this interview.
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You got a link to it?
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You got a link to it?
i googled it.
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http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/eazy-e-planned-to-kill-suge-knight-says-news.5627.html
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Do I believe Eazy was serious about killing Suge? Sure
Do I believe him doing it would've kept Dre and Cube at Ruthless? Fuck you, no.
Cube left before Dre even met Suge, his issue was specifically with Jerry Heller and Eazy not paying him. Even so no fuckin way were both of those guys staying on a label for 2 decades (especially considering they'd be signed exclusively to Jerry cuz Eazy would be in jail for murder)
I also don't believe Ruthless was making $10 million a month.
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Suge had nothing to do with Cube leaving. It paints an interesting picture of Jerry Heller that he would condone a black businessman killing another one in the name of being able to make more money for his own business interests.
For real. I was gonna say I don't believe this shit at all but they've got audio of the interview so I guess it's true.
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I still have to listen to the audio but just in how it is presented, it sort of gives credibility to some of the criticisms that people had with Heller in the first place. He's not saying Suge should have been taken out because he was dangerous to the safety of certain people, he's saying Eric was right because it would have been made for better business. In the book, he covers this but he explains it more as it should have been done to keep Suge from destroying lives and damaging the industry but here he sums it up like we should have done it so we could have made more money and kept paying Dre and Cube them bullshit contracts. But the fact is Cube left before Suge was even a major player and he didn't go over to Death Row, he got his own deal at Priority. If these businesses could have done anything retroactively, they should have gone with giving their artists royalty checks for publishing on platinum albums, instead of watches and cars. I mean, they can talk about black-owned labels all day but if you look at all the Ruthless artists minus Eazy and Dre's Death Row deal then look at how Priority managed Cube's career, it sort of seems like a no-brainer to me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHqnqRvcKF8
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Eazy should have knocked Suge, would have changed the game,
Was Cube even getting ripped off? Or was he just getting paid as a ruthless artist like Eazy said? Just because the other's werent getting the same as Eazy dont mean they werent getting their money, even Cold187 said one of cube's main reasons for leaving was that his solo got pushed back to bring out ATL's first album. I've always heard different things that points to Cube thinking he was better than the rest of NWA because he was writing and rapping and felt he deserved more than what he was getting.
Ive never heard MC Ren say that Eazy ripped him off , never heard ATL say that either. Eazy E provided the foundation that let all of the NWA/Ruthless artists get started and it aint much different to the way people running labels now. I think the main thing that fucks up groups is the ego's of those involved, someone always thinks they are better/or do more and deserve a bigger piece of the pie.
just my thoughts anyhow
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it's not news, as jerry spoke about it in his book
I still have to listen to the audio but just in how it is presented, it sort of gives credibility to some of the criticisms that people had with Heller in the first place. He's not saying Suge should have been taken out because he was dangerous to the safety of certain people, he's saying Eric was right because it would have been made for better business. In the book, he covers this but he explains it more as it should have been done to keep Suge from destroying lives and damaging the industry but here he sums it up like we should have done it so we could have made more money and kept paying Dre and Cube them bullshit contracts. But the fact is Cube left before Suge was even a major player and he didn't go over to Death Row, he got his own deal at Priority. If these businesses could have done anything retroactively, they should have gone with giving their artists royalty checks for publishing on platinum albums, instead of watches and cars. I mean, they can talk about black-owned labels all day but if you look at all the Ruthless artists minus Eazy and Dre's Death Row deal then look at how Priority managed Cube's career, it sort of seems like a no-brainer to me.
do you really believe The D.O.C. Above The Law etc. received watches and cars in stead of royalty checks? ???
anyway, i don't believe cube's solodeal was that much better in compared to ruthless, other than the fact that he was paid as a soloact.
he was signed to a major label after all
Eazy should have knocked Suge, would have changed the game,
Was Cube even getting ripped off? Or was he just getting paid as a ruthless artist like Eazy said? Just because the other's werent getting the same as Eazy dont mean they werent getting their money, even Cold187 said one of cube's main reasons for leaving was that his solo got pushed back to bring out ATL's first album. I've always heard different things that points to Cube thinking he was better than the rest of NWA because he was writing and rapping and felt he deserved more than what he was getting.
Ive never heard MC Ren say that Eazy ripped him off , never heard ATL say that either. Eazy E provided the foundation that let all of the NWA/Ruthless artists get started and it aint much different to the way people running labels now. I think the main thing that fucks up groups is the ego's of those involved, someone always thinks they are better/or do more and deserve a bigger piece of the pie.
just my thoughts anyhow
great post, i totally agree with you about the egos
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The way i see it most groups are destined to fail, especially when the group is made up of people who were not around each other before the group formed. Even outside of rap this same thing happens over and over, just the people involved have their different reasons for why the group situation didn't work. Mostly it seems to be that the groups break down because a group of creative individuals cant handle being at least equal or below other members of the group and it eventually leads to a breakdown/break up ie NWA, Bone Thugs, The Eagles, Destiny's Child, TLC the list goes on and it isnt just in the rap game.
I would take what Ice Cube and Dr Dre said about Ruthless and Eazy with a grain of salt because even if they were wrong they are never going to admit it. People seem to take what Ice Cube says about Eazy/Ruthless/Jerry as gospel???? Why?? Cube has proven these days that he is all about the $$$$. The new age cube is what the NWA cube would have called a sell out. Dr Dre he has screwed over how many artist now? maybe he dont steal their money but he holds up their career long enough that they end up irrelivant.
Look at the DPG back touring and making albums together lol Kurupt is a bitch if you listen to Daz but he still back with Kurupt, people talk shit and us fans believe it
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Also regarding what was said above wasnt Suge Knight a security guard/body gaurd for Ruthless Records back in the day? D.O.C and Suge used to hit up the club scene and get into all kinds of shit?? Suge sounds like he just too advantage of a situation he thought he could control. It was Harry O that put the money in place to start Deathrow not Suge, Suge was just the front and he even crossed Harry O, even tried to say he was a snitch.
From what I can see Harry O did his time for murder, Suge fucked him over while he was locked up and then tried to discredit his name and call him a snitch, Harry O should have had Suge shot not sued...........
I'd take out Suge and start down the row, since Dre is a bitch I'd slap that hoe, two dogs in a hudle................ RIP Eazy E
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^truth. if eazy and ruthless was rippin' them niggas off how come they didn't sue ? how come eazy was still gettin' paid off dre when he was at death row ?
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The way i see it most groups are destined to fail, especially when the group is made up of people who were not around each other before the group formed.
In the case of N.W.A., they all knew each other before the group started. I would certainly agree that egos play a part in it but if you have a multi-million-dollar formula, if you are the guys managing the acts and owning the company, you need to keep things civil. I've made the same case with the turmoil at Death Row between Tupac-Dre and Tupac-Snoop. This idea that a label has to be an extended family doesn't work because family and business don't mix. You can't handle business over personal matters. If two artists on your label don't click and one is worth $90 million in sales and the other is worth like $70 million, you don't send one out and let a rival label take that money and eat into your own fanbase, you create a situation to co-exist.
do you really believe The D.O.C. Above The Law etc. received watches and cars in stead of royalty checks?
I can't say for certain who got what or didn't get what but D.O.C. has said he got a gold watch in exchange for his publishing. It's not strictly a Ruthless thing either. I've seen and read some documents that show plenty of cats at Death Row, Bad Boy, and various other labels that show artists basically getting fancy cars and jewelry in exchange for publishing rights on some very lucrative writing credits for hit songs and albums.
anyway, i don't believe cube's solodeal was that much better in compared to ruthless, other than the fact that he was paid as a soloact
I would say that in itself is a better deal than what he got at Ruthless. Ice Cube was the attitude in that group. He was writing the songs and playing backseat to Eazy both financially and as an artist. I would argue that Cube was being undervalued more so than Dr. Dre was. Eazy may not have been paying Dre what his value was but from what Heller says, he and Eazy at least saw Dre as a major contributing factor to the success of the label as a whole. That whole angry anti-establishment concept was pure Ice Cube. It was prevalent in his early post-NWA solo work and lacking on the follow-up albums. Dre's evolving production mind kept things afloat on the follow-up album but conceptually, it's more sex and violence in the subject matter without the method behind the madness that Cube brought. In leaving Ruthless, he now becomes the focus over at Priority and in addition to being the only act being pushed, he also isn't splitting checks with four or five other artists-songwriters.
I would take what Ice Cube and Dr Dre said about Ruthless and Eazy with a grain of salt because even if they were wrong they are never going to admit it. People seem to take what Ice Cube says about Eazy/Ruthless/Jerry as gospel?Huh Why?? Cube has proven these days that he is all about the $$$$.
There is no denying that Cube and Dre's accounts are just one side of the story and I would never argue they aren't likely just as guilty of being greedy and egotistical as well but Eric is the fucking company. If you run a multi-million-dollar company, you are going to have to deal with prima donna aspect when it comes to negotiating deals. They let Cube walk. He went somewhere else and made hundreds of million dollars for them. I doubt what he was asking for would have equaled anywhere near what his contributions would have added up to had they kept it.
Dre is a different story. He was a contracted talent and Ruthless technically were paying him what his contract obligated them to. Oddly though, Heller actually has said that it was a mistake on their parts not to renegotiate with him because he was the hottest producer in the game at that time and his value had increased significantly. In the end, Interscope ended up stealing Dre away through Suge, made so much off him that they could afford to offer Ruthless a percentage, and they basically lost the most profitable brand (N.W.A.) that they had over it.
Ive never heard MC Ren say that Eazy ripped him off , never heard ATL say that either.
I don't think I've ever read/heard anything where he specifically discusses money but Ren has said that once Dre left, him and Eazy weren't as cool as they once were. Ren said Eazy was pushing to do another N.W.A. album and Ren said it would be wack without Dre producing it. There's an interview they did with MTV during the CB4 premiere and Eazy is talking about doing it and Ren is more or less saying, "If we can get everyone back, I might do it". He basically said he was still cool with Dre and didn't want to be a part of all the artists kissing up to Eazy by telling him Chronic was wack and dissing Dre.
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^truth. if eazy and ruthless was rippin' them niggas off how come they didn't sue ? how come eazy was still gettin' paid off dre when he was at death row ?
Well, they can't exactly sue for something that isn't illegal. The beauty of the business end for the guys who run labels is most artists don't know dick about how to read a contract. If you don't know what something is worth and I do and I offer you something like two or three cents for every dollar it's worth, am I ripping you off? If I have a better business mind and the lawyers to back me up, what can you do? It's more a matter of ethics than legality.
Cube can't sue because he never signed a deal. The story goes that they were all offered checks to sign as a group at one of their concerts, everyone did, except for Cube, who said he wanted to have a lawyer look at it. He said the deal ended up being a poor one but said he tried to negotiate a better one and they passed so he ended up going solo at another label.
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^truth. if eazy and ruthless was rippin' them niggas off how come they didn't sue ? how come eazy was still gettin' paid off dre when he was at death row ?
Well, they can't exactly sue for something that isn't illegal. The beauty of the business end for the guys who run labels is most artists don't know dick about how to read a contract. If you don't know what something is worth and I do and I offer you something like two or three cents for every dollar it's worth, am I ripping you off? If I have a better business mind and the lawyers to back me up, what can you do? It's more a matter of ethics than legality.
Cube can't sue because he never signed a deal. The story goes that they were all offered checks to sign as a group at one of their concerts, everyone did, except for Cube, who said he wanted to have a lawyer look at it. He said the deal ended up being a poor one but said he tried to negotiate a better one and they passed so he ended up going solo at another label.
true but as far as dre if he claimed he was ripped off he shoulda sued. eazy ended up still makin' money off him he couldn't blame ruthless for his lack of knowledge as far as contractual dealings.
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I really don't think he could have sued. Unlike Cube, he signed on the dotted line. With record companies, it's hard to know what you're getting into and that's why so many young artists get fucked. The guys who run the label are always going to try and cut corners when it comes to paying an artist. What's an artist going to do? Hire a lawyer. Who do you think is going to have better legal representation? More over, if your manager also manages the record label that is paying your contract, who do you think they're going to bat for when it's negotiation time?
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i honestly don't think dre was gettin' jerked but i do think that if he wasn't gettin' what he thought he should be gettin' he shoulda worked it out wit eazy. suge did him even worst.
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nah Dre made a lot of money on Death Row, cause he had learned his lesson from his past experience with Eazy... he had his publishing and everything. Dre made tens of millions on Death Row. He was getting chump change on Ruthless. One of Snoop's gripes with Dre was that Dre hadn't schooled Snoop on the business end when he was on Death Row, in other words Dre was aware Snoop and them were getting ripped off and never told them.
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nah Dre made a lot of money on Death Row, cause he had learned his lesson from his past experience with Eazy... he had his publishing and everything. Dre made tens of millions on Death Row. He was getting chump change on Ruthless. One of Snoop's gripes with Dre was that Dre hadn't schooled Snoop on the business end when he was on Death Row, in other words Dre was aware Snoop and them were getting ripped off and never told them.
cool. but he was co owner of death row or so he thought and his artists was gettin' ripped off and he knew it he was no better than eazy or jerry (rbx's a.w.o.l comes to mind).
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i'm not saying Dre isn't shady, i was just reacting to your saying "suge did him even worst" which isn't really the case (financially speaking).
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i'm not saying Dre isn't shady, i was just reacting to your saying "suge did him even worst" which isn't really the case (financially speaking).
overall i meant not just financially.
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Jerry Heller claims that Eazy-E wanted to kill Suge Knight. "I should have let him kill him," Heller says. "I would have done the world a favor."
According to Ruthless Records co-founder Jerry Heller, Eazy-E wanted to kill Suge Knight. Heller recently revealed this in a radio interview, claiming that Eazy wanted to kill Knight and that he feels he "should have let him" do it.
In an interview with Prezident Bejda of The Murder Master Music Show, Heller explained how this conversation took place.
"Eazy said, 'You know this guy Suge Knight?' I said, 'Yeah.' He says, 'Well, I'm gonna kill him!' He said, 'This guy is gonna be a problem and I think I should kill him.' I said, 'Let me think this thing through. First of all, we're doing $10 million a month with six employees. We don't even have a typewriter in the office. We're the most successful start-up record company in the history of the music business and you want to kill this guy? That just doesn't make any sense to me.'"
Heller then explained that he regrets talking Eazy out of it.
"You know something? I should have let him kill him. You know? I would have done the world a favor. He would have done it for sure by himself. He always rolled by himself and he was fearless...I think that he was going to go do it. I took him seriously."
"He was right and I was wrong," he later added. "I shouldn't have talked him out of it. Ruthless would probably still be around. Dr. Dre and Ice Cube would probably still be with Ruthless. It would have been an empire."
Its crazy!cause Suge got Eazy in the end....shot him up with aids..and thats real....streets every where knows this...but the media says he just died of aids threw sex....no, suge did it...hell Suge evens hints it,and laughs about in a live interview. :-\
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Jerry Heller claims that Eazy-E wanted to kill Suge Knight. "I should have let him kill him," Heller says. "I would have done the world a favor."
According to Ruthless Records co-founder Jerry Heller, Eazy-E wanted to kill Suge Knight. Heller recently revealed this in a radio interview, claiming that Eazy wanted to kill Knight and that he feels he "should have let him" do it.
In an interview with Prezident Bejda of The Murder Master Music Show, Heller explained how this conversation took place.
"Eazy said, 'You know this guy Suge Knight?' I said, 'Yeah.' He says, 'Well, I'm gonna kill him!' He said, 'This guy is gonna be a problem and I think I should kill him.' I said, 'Let me think this thing through. First of all, we're doing $10 million a month with six employees. We don't even have a typewriter in the office. We're the most successful start-up record company in the history of the music business and you want to kill this guy? That just doesn't make any sense to me.'"
Heller then explained that he regrets talking Eazy out of it.
"You know something? I should have let him kill him. You know? I would have done the world a favor. He would have done it for sure by himself. He always rolled by himself and he was fearless...I think that he was going to go do it. I took him seriously."
"He was right and I was wrong," he later added. "I shouldn't have talked him out of it. Ruthless would probably still be around. Dr. Dre and Ice Cube would probably still be with Ruthless. It would have been an empire."
Its crazy!cause Suge got Eazy in the end....shot him up with aids..and thats real....streets every where knows this...but the media says he just died of aids threw sex....no, suge did it...hell Suge evens hints it,and laughs about in a live interview. :-\
lmao, there are so much tin foil hat people in here
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Jerry Heller claims that Eazy-E wanted to kill Suge Knight. "I should have let him kill him," Heller says. "I would have done the world a favor."
According to Ruthless Records co-founder Jerry Heller, Eazy-E wanted to kill Suge Knight. Heller recently revealed this in a radio interview, claiming that Eazy wanted to kill Knight and that he feels he "should have let him" do it.
In an interview with Prezident Bejda of The Murder Master Music Show, Heller explained how this conversation took place.
"Eazy said, 'You know this guy Suge Knight?' I said, 'Yeah.' He says, 'Well, I'm gonna kill him!' He said, 'This guy is gonna be a problem and I think I should kill him.' I said, 'Let me think this thing through. First of all, we're doing $10 million a month with six employees. We don't even have a typewriter in the office. We're the most successful start-up record company in the history of the music business and you want to kill this guy? That just doesn't make any sense to me.'"
Heller then explained that he regrets talking Eazy out of it.
"You know something? I should have let him kill him. You know? I would have done the world a favor. He would have done it for sure by himself. He always rolled by himself and he was fearless...I think that he was going to go do it. I took him seriously."
"He was right and I was wrong," he later added. "I shouldn't have talked him out of it. Ruthless would probably still be around. Dr. Dre and Ice Cube would probably still be with Ruthless. It would have been an empire."
Its crazy!cause Suge got Eazy in the end....shot him up with aids..and thats real....streets every where knows this...but the media says he just died of aids threw sex....no, suge did it...hell Suge evens hints it,and laughs about in a live interview. :-\
this makes sense cause how would suge know how eazy was killed in detail like that ?
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this makes sense cause how would suge know how eazy was killed in detail like that ?
Whose to say that was how Eazy died? It sounded more like Suge making a joke.
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this makes sense cause how would suge know how eazy was killed in detail like that ?
Whose to say that was how Eazy died? It sounded more like Suge making a joke.
maybe maybe not. but everybody in the know of the situation knows eazy died too quick and sound suspicious i wouldn't rule tomika out either she had a lot to gain.
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Anything is possible but without something more concrete than speculation, it is all just heresay. However, if Eazy actually had full-blown AIDS, dying quick isn't exactly out of the ordinary. The human body needs an immune system to fight off sickness. Without it, something as simple as common cold can kill you in a hurry.
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Anything is possible but without something more concrete than speculation, it is all just heresay. However, if Eazy actually had full-blown AIDS, dying quick isn't exactly out of the ordinary. The human body needs an immune system to fight off sickness. Without it, something as simple as common cold can kill you in a hurry.
yeah but if he didn't have it then all of a sudden get hiv than aids just like that....somethin' ain't right.
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Well, he didn't get diagnosed with HIV. By the time, he went in the hospital, he supposedly already had AIDS.
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he went to the doctor in aug. 94 and didn't have nothin' though.
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Watch this clip from Welcome To Death Row and start it at 12:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFF6HmC7nc4
Dick Griffey (RIP), an industry veteran, saw the Ruthless Contracts, and called them the worst contracts he's ever seen in the history of the record business. Suge definitely screwed over his artists financially, but it sounds like Heller was even worse. Heller is sleazy as fuck and the shit he's saying in this interview shows it. When it comes down to it, his ridiculous contracts were the root of all the controversy between Ruthless and the NWA artists. Like somebody else mentioned, the artists were duped into signing these shady contracts because they didn't know better, so it was all legal, yet highly unethical.
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Well, he didn't get diagnosed with HIV. By the time, he went in the hospital, he supposedly already had AIDS.
always thought that was weird...he had a persistent cough for a while but don't know about any other symptoms
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Watch this clip from Welcome To Death Row and start it at 12:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFF6HmC7nc4
Dick Griffey (RIP), an industry veteran, saw the Ruthless Contracts, and called them the worst contracts he's ever seen in the history of the record business. Suge definitely screwed over his artists financially, but it sounds like Heller was even worse. Heller is sleazy as fuck and the shit he's saying in this interview shows it. When it comes down to it, his ridiculous contracts were the root of all the controversy between Ruthless and the NWA artists. Like somebody else mentioned, the artists were duped into signing these shady contracts because they didn't know better, so it was all legal, yet highly unethical.
i'm sure those contracts are more legit than the ones snoop, pac, and others signed while on death row. if ruthless was doin' dre dirty he shoulda sued them like he did death row in '98 for unpaid royalties.
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Well, he didn't get diagnosed with HIV. By the time, he went in the hospital, he supposedly already had AIDS.
Exactly.
Sounds like he didn't get checked / diagnosed with HIV and by the time he went to the doctors it was too late. That's why there's all those "get checked" commercial. If you're infected, you can still live a relatively normal life if its detected and treated in the early stages.
As far as the rumor of Eazy being injected - possible. But I'm not buying this conspiracy theory that Suge did it. Shit what did he have to gain from it? He had already taken Dre and DOC and built a power house, Ruthless was no competition.
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Well, he didn't get diagnosed with HIV. By the time, he went in the hospital, he supposedly already had AIDS.
Exactly.
Sounds like he didn't get checked / diagnosed with HIV and by the time he went to the doctors it was too late. That's why there's all those "get checked" commercial. If you're infected, you can still live a relatively normal life if its detected and treated in the early stages.
As far as the rumor of Eazy being injected - possible. But I'm not buying this conspiracy theory that Suge did it. Shit what did he have to gain from it? He had already taken Dre and DOC and built a power house, Ruthless was no competition.
Bingo. What exactly is the evidence? Stretching "suge didnt like eazy e" into a solid motive or "suge didnt like him so he did it" is straight retarded.
A music fan living in the 90s even though its 2013 thinking up wild tales in his head does not constitute evidence. I challenge anyone to present this supposed evidence, and if there is evidence, then I'll take what I said back.
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Well, he didn't get diagnosed with HIV. By the time, he went in the hospital, he supposedly already had AIDS.
Exactly.
Sounds like he didn't get checked / diagnosed with HIV and by the time he went to the doctors it was too late. That's why there's all those "get checked" commercial. If you're infected, you can still live a relatively normal life if its detected and treated in the early stages.
As far as the rumor of Eazy being injected - possible. But I'm not buying this conspiracy theory that Suge did it. Shit what did he have to gain from it? He had already taken Dre and DOC and built a power house, Ruthless was no competition.
he got checked aug 94 and was clean and 7 months later he dies of aids?? hmm ::) ::)
and i guess bone selling 10mil of e99 eternal wasnt competition, did you forget bone was on ruthless??.. seems like your opinion is biased on death row when clearly ruthless was still puttin up numbers and goin 3x/4x platinum off EP's while E was still alive(its on/coacu)..
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nah Dre made a lot of money on Death Row, cause he had learned his lesson from his past experience with Eazy... he had his publishing and everything. Dre made tens of millions on Death Row. He was getting chump change on Ruthless. One of Snoop's gripes with Dre was that Dre hadn't schooled Snoop on the business end when he was on Death Row, in other words Dre was aware Snoop and them were getting ripped off and never told them.
cool. but he was co owner of death row or so he thought and his artists was gettin' ripped off and he knew it he was no better than eazy or jerry (rbx's a.w.o.l comes to mind).
Eazy and Jerry screwed Dre legally when he came to his contract. The thing with Suge was more like bullying. Dre legally owned half of Death Row. He just didn't stand up to Suge.
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Eazy fired Jerry Heller, then went to Heller's doctor where he was diagnosed with full blown aids.
See what those close to the situation say, like bone, lil Eazy, his mom, etc.
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nah Dre made a lot of money on Death Row, cause he had learned his lesson from his past experience with Eazy... he had his publishing and everything. Dre made tens of millions on Death Row. He was getting chump change on Ruthless. One of Snoop's gripes with Dre was that Dre hadn't schooled Snoop on the business end when he was on Death Row, in other words Dre was aware Snoop and them were getting ripped off and never told them.
cool. but he was co owner of death row or so he thought and his artists was gettin' ripped off and he knew it he was no better than eazy or jerry (rbx's a.w.o.l comes to mind).
Eazy and Jerry screwed Dre legally when he came to his contract. The thing with Suge was more like bullying. Dre legally owned half of Death Row. He just didn't stand up to Suge.
in a contract you don't get what you're worth you get what you negotiate.
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nah Dre made a lot of money on Death Row, cause he had learned his lesson from his past experience with Eazy... he had his publishing and everything. Dre made tens of millions on Death Row. He was getting chump change on Ruthless. One of Snoop's gripes with Dre was that Dre hadn't schooled Snoop on the business end when he was on Death Row, in other words Dre was aware Snoop and them were getting ripped off and never told them.
cool. but he was co owner of death row or so he thought and his artists was gettin' ripped off and he knew it he was no better than eazy or jerry (rbx's a.w.o.l comes to mind).
Eazy and Jerry screwed Dre legally when he came to his contract. The thing with Suge was more like bullying. Dre legally owned half of Death Row. He just didn't stand up to Suge.
in a contract you don't get what you're worth you get what you negotiate.
You have no idea how legal agreements work.
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Suge had nothing to do with Cube leaving. It paints an interesting picture of Jerry Heller that he would condone a black businessman killing another one in the name of being able to make more money for his own business interests.
i think he's implyin that suge knight was a piece of shit and that he destroyed a lot of lives, hence claimin he'd be "better off dead"
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Eazy fired Jerry Heller, then went to Heller's doctor where he was diagnosed with full blown aids.
See what those close to the situation say, like bone, lil Eazy, his mom, etc.
definitely a set-up...especially if he was tested 7 months earlier and was fine. aids typically takes years to kill
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nah Dre made a lot of money on Death Row, cause he had learned his lesson from his past experience with Eazy... he had his publishing and everything. Dre made tens of millions on Death Row. He was getting chump change on Ruthless. One of Snoop's gripes with Dre was that Dre hadn't schooled Snoop on the business end when he was on Death Row, in other words Dre was aware Snoop and them were getting ripped off and never told them.
cool. but he was co owner of death row or so he thought and his artists was gettin' ripped off and he knew it he was no better than eazy or jerry (rbx's a.w.o.l comes to mind).
Eazy and Jerry screwed Dre legally when he came to his contract. The thing with Suge was more like bullying. Dre legally owned half of Death Row. He just didn't stand up to Suge.
in a contract you don't get what you're worth you get what you negotiate.
You have no idea how legal agreements work.
you have no idea what the fuck we talkin' about go jump in front of a movin' car bitch.
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nah Dre made a lot of money on Death Row, cause he had learned his lesson from his past experience with Eazy... he had his publishing and everything. Dre made tens of millions on Death Row. He was getting chump change on Ruthless. One of Snoop's gripes with Dre was that Dre hadn't schooled Snoop on the business end when he was on Death Row, in other words Dre was aware Snoop and them were getting ripped off and never told them.
cool. but he was co owner of death row or so he thought and his artists was gettin' ripped off and he knew it he was no better than eazy or jerry (rbx's a.w.o.l comes to mind).
Eazy and Jerry screwed Dre legally when he came to his contract. The thing with Suge was more like bullying. Dre legally owned half of Death Row. He just didn't stand up to Suge.
in a contract you don't get what you're worth you get what you negotiate.
Hence why Dre was screwed legally. He couldn't do shit about it.
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do you really believe The D.O.C. Above The Law etc. received watches and cars in stead of royalty checks?
I can't say for certain who got what or didn't get what but D.O.C. has said he got a gold watch in exchange for his publishing. It's not strictly a Ruthless thing either. I've seen and read some documents that show plenty of cats at Death Row, Bad Boy, and various other labels that show artists basically getting fancy cars and jewelry in exchange for publishing rights on some very lucrative writing credits for hit songs and albums.
yeah but how credible was/is The D.O.C.? he was a drug addict and an alcoholic.
anyway, i don't believe cube's solodeal was that much better in compared to ruthless, other than the fact that he was paid as a soloact
I would say that in itself is a better deal than what he got at Ruthless. Ice Cube was the attitude in that group. He was writing the songs and playing backseat to Eazy both financially and as an artist. I would argue that Cube was being undervalued more so than Dr. Dre was. Eazy may not have been paying Dre what his value was but from what Heller says, he and Eazy at least saw Dre as a major contributing factor to the success of the label as a whole. That whole angry anti-establishment concept was pure Ice Cube. It was prevalent in his early post-NWA solo work and lacking on the follow-up albums. Dre's evolving production mind kept things afloat on the follow-up album but conceptually, it's more sex and violence in the subject matter without the method behind the madness that Cube brought. In leaving Ruthless, he now becomes the focus over at Priority and in addition to being the only act being pushed, he also isn't splitting checks with four or five other artists-songwriters.
you're right, maybe they didnt't give cube enough credit for his work, but you said he had a bullshit contract, which is something different.
i believe it was just a standard contract, like cube uses for his own label.
and im sure he's still receiving royalties from ruthless