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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Sccit on June 27, 2013, 12:24:43 PM
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REPORT: Dwight Howard Likely To Ditch The Lakers And Leave $30 Million On The Table
According to ESPN's Chris Broussard, it's unlikely that Dwight Howard will re-sign with the Los Angeles Lakers this summer.
Howard is an unrestricted free agent, meaning he can sign with any team.
But under the NBA's new rules, the Lakers can offer him a contract worth $118 million over five years, and everyone else can only offer him a $88 million deal over four years.
He'd be leaving $30 million on the table if he left LA.
The Lakers could potentially sign-and-trade Howard so they don't let him go for nothing, but the team is reportedly not interested in any sign-and-trade scenarios.
Broussard reports that the Houston Rockets and Dallas Mavericks are potential landing spot for Howard.
The Rockets are probably the most intriguing option. They're one of the youngest teams in the league, and they outperformed expectations last season.
But as we know, Howard can change his mind at any moment. Maybe when it comes closer to decision time, he'll reconsidered leaving that $30 million on the table.
http://www.seattlepi.com/technology/businessinsider/article/REPORT-Dwight-Howard-Likely-To-Ditch-The-Lakers-4626439.php
enjoy, houston
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how embarrassing. the 2nd most successful NBA team ever and they aren't good enough to keep their star center :D
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this goes on to the MJ discussion
Jordan 175 records
Dwhite 7
MJ GOATfini
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how embarrassing. the 2nd most successful NBA team ever and they aren't good enough to keep their star center :D
trollfail
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if they WERE good enough to keep him why would he leave?
oh that's right, you guys suck ass. your coach sucks. your point guard is 50 years old and your shooting guard is a cripple. dwight wants to win, that's why he's heading to Texas.
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the reason he's leaving is cuz he cant handle the pressure and probably realizes he'll still be a second option to kobe, genius.....and we dont even want him LOL
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thank god hes not going to the warriors
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the reason he's leaving is cuz he cant handle the pressure and probably realizes he'll still be a second option to kobe, genius.....and we dont even want him LOL
Kobe tore his achilles, he's not going to be the 27 PPG guy he was before. and he's dreaming if he thinks he can average 10 assists a game lmao
anyways Dwight wants to go to a place to win, not to be second fiddle to the Clippers. The Clippers are going to be the best team in LA for the next couple of years...well however long CP3's prime lasts unless Blake works on his shooting.
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imagine the Rockets with Dwight
PG Lin
SG Harden
SF Parsons
PF Asik
C Dwight
that's a tough starting lineup.
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imagine the Rockets with Dwight
PG Lin
SG Harden
SF Parsons
PF Asik
C Dwight
that's a tough starting lineup.
if they get dwight, they give up asik, parsons, and beverly in a sign n trade. ur lookin at:
pg jeremy lin/aaron brooks
sg james harden/francisco garcia
sf carlos delfino/james anderson
pf thomas robinson/royce white
c dwight howard/greg smith
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the reason he's leaving is cuz he cant handle the pressure and probably realizes he'll still be a second option to kobe, genius.....and we dont even want him LOL
Kobe tore his achilles, he's not going to be the 27 PPG guy he was before. and he's dreaming if he thinks he can average 10 assists a game lmao
anyways Dwight wants to go to a place to win, not to be second fiddle to the Clippers. The Clippers are going to be the best team in LA for the next couple of years...well however long CP3's prime lasts unless Blake works on his shooting.
kobe without limbs>dwight...whats ur point?
if dwight doesnt believe in himself, thats the only reason he wont sign in LA.
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imagine the Rockets with Dwight
PG Lin
SG Harden
SF Parsons
PF Asik
C Dwight
that's a tough starting lineup.
if they get dwight, they give up asik, parsons, and beverly in a sign n trade. ur lookin at:
pg jeremy lin/aaron brooks
sg james harden/francisco garcia
sf carlos delfino/james anderson
pf thomas robinson/royce white
c dwight howard/greg smith
Dwight is a free agent though...why do they need to sign and trade? i thought it was unrestricted if he opts out?
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imagine the Rockets with Dwight
PG Lin
SG Harden
SF Parsons
PF Asik
C Dwight
that's a tough starting lineup.
if they get dwight, they give up asik, parsons, and beverly in a sign n trade. ur lookin at:
pg jeremy lin/aaron brooks
sg james harden/francisco garcia
sf carlos delfino/james anderson
pf thomas robinson/royce white
c dwight howard/greg smith
Dwight is a free agent though...why do they need to sign and trade? i thought it was unrestricted if he opts out?
So he can get max money
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maybe he'll pull a Lebron and take less to go win. that rockets team would be serious.
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sign and trade makes more sense for him in terms of karma and in terms of finances.......if he wants to be seen as the nba's biggest bitch of all time, then he'll walk for nothing and leave money on the table in the process. wouldnt put it past him.
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how again is it bad if he takes less money to go to Houston?
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how again is it bad if he takes less money to go to Houston?
yeah i dont think from a fan standpoint that he looks like a bitch for walking
but i do think nik youd be pissed cause the lakers would get nothing in return ;)
not that i blame ya
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he would definitely look like a bitch for quitting on 2 teams back-to-back....if he leaves without sign-and-trade, he will be the most hated man in LA AND lose a ton of money, it makes absolutely no sense.
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Why would Houston agree to help reload LA? Parsons will not be involved in any sign and trade regardless of the team and Dwight is young enough to have another max deal after this.
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Why would dwight wanna stay with an aging roster that isn't going anywhere? where is kobe, nash, ron artest at this point in their career? How about pau gasol with another nba season of wear and tear? Houston's gotta much better roster at this point with james harden.
They have no state income tax in houston, so he'll dodge that 13% on 113 million.. No reason for him to stay and get booed by the fans again-he's dippin
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Why would Houston agree to help reload LA? Parsons will not be involved in any sign and trade regardless of the team and Dwight is young enough to have another max deal after this.
cuz they want dwight...and lol if you really believe yall wouldnt trade parsons for dwight.
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but if he signs with Houston as a free agent for less money then that makes him look unselfish plus it gives them the best chance to win
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but if he signs with Houston as a free agent for less money then that makes him look unselfish plus it gives them the best chance to win
how the fuck would walkin out on the lakers with them gettin nothin in return make him look less selfish? u either got some fucked up morals or are slippin on ur trollin skills, which is it?
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but if he signs with Houston as a free agent for less money then that makes him look unselfish plus it gives them the best chance to win
how the fuck would walkin out on the lakers with them gettin nothin in return make him look less selfish? u either got some fucked up morals or are slippin on ur trollin skills, which is it?
1-it would make him look smart
2-has this guy ever cared about how he looks in the public eye? hellll no.
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but if he signs with Houston as a free agent for less money then that makes him look unselfish plus it gives them the best chance to win
how the fuck would walkin out on the lakers with them gettin nothin in return make him look less selfish? u either got some fucked up morals or are slippin on ur trollin skills, which is it?
1-it would make him look smart
2-has this guy ever cared about how he looks in the public eye? hellll no.
1. :stupid:
2. best point u made thus far
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i hear he's talking to Dallas AND Dallas wants to make a move for Rondo
it's like Ainge just wants to help other teams make playoff runs :eh:
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i hear he's talking to Dallas AND Dallas wants to make a move for Rondo
it's like Ainge just wants to help other teams make playoff runs :eh:
the boston trade was robbery, any celtic fan should be enthused about gettin three first round picks for those dinosaurs with huge contracts...brooklyn got better and is a win now team, but boston clearly won this one.....ainge went into tank-for-wiggins mode full force, saved a bunch of money, and got some great picks for his rebuild mode....would make sense if he traded rondo too.
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Why would Houston agree to help reload LA? Parsons will not be involved in any sign and trade regardless of the team and Dwight is young enough to have another max deal after this.
cuz they want dwight...and lol if you really believe yall wouldnt trade parsons for dwight.
Houston doesn't have to trade for Dwight, there really isn't anything to bargain.
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Why would Houston agree to help reload LA? Parsons will not be involved in any sign and trade regardless of the team and Dwight is young enough to have another max deal after this.
cuz they want dwight...and lol if you really believe yall wouldnt trade parsons for dwight.
Houston doesn't have to trade for Dwight, there really isn't anything to bargain.
it would be dwight's choice, not houston
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Why would Houston agree to help reload LA? Parsons will not be involved in any sign and trade regardless of the team and Dwight is young enough to have another max deal after this.
cuz they want dwight...and lol if you really believe yall wouldnt trade parsons for dwight.
Houston doesn't have to trade for Dwight, there really isn't anything to bargain.
it would be dwight's choice, not houston
OK, so if Dwight wants a sign and trade, LA said they won't do one anyway, who will LA take back? Houston won't include Asik. Lin? You guys going to try for both and screw up your cap for 2014? You can have a second rounder.
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Why would Houston agree to help reload LA? Parsons will not be involved in any sign and trade regardless of the team and Dwight is young enough to have another max deal after this.
cuz they want dwight...and lol if you really believe yall wouldnt trade parsons for dwight.
Houston doesn't have to trade for Dwight, there really isn't anything to bargain.
it would be dwight's choice, not houston
OK, so if Dwight wants a sign and trade, LA said they won't do one anyway, who will LA take back? Houston won't include Asik. Lin? You guys going to try for both and screw up your cap for 2014? You can have a second rounder.
they would do one, trust me....it's all bluff for now. in the end, if LA's options were him walking and sign-and-trade, were going for the sign-and-trade. if houston's options wer asik-parsons-beverly or dwight, yall going dwight. trust me.
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Why would Houston agree to help reload LA? Parsons will not be involved in any sign and trade regardless of the team and Dwight is young enough to have another max deal after this.
cuz they want dwight...and lol if you really believe yall wouldnt trade parsons for dwight.
Houston doesn't have to trade for Dwight, there really isn't anything to bargain.
it would be dwight's choice, not houston
OK, so if Dwight wants a sign and trade, LA said they won't do one anyway, who will LA take back? Houston won't include Asik. Lin? You guys going to try for both and screw up your cap for 2014? You can have a second rounder.
they would do one, trust me....it's all bluff for now. in the end, if LA's options were him walking and sign-and-trade, were going for the sign-and-trade. if houston's options wer asik-parsons-beverly or dwight, yall going dwight. trust me.
Have fun with Lin and Robinson. Maybe a second round pick.
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Why would Houston agree to help reload LA? Parsons will not be involved in any sign and trade regardless of the team and Dwight is young enough to have another max deal after this.
cuz they want dwight...and lol if you really believe yall wouldnt trade parsons for dwight.
Houston doesn't have to trade for Dwight, there really isn't anything to bargain.
it would be dwight's choice, not houston
OK, so if Dwight wants a sign and trade, LA said they won't do one anyway, who will LA take back? Houston won't include Asik. Lin? You guys going to try for both and screw up your cap for 2014? You can have a second rounder.
they would do one, trust me....it's all bluff for now. in the end, if LA's options were him walking and sign-and-trade, were going for the sign-and-trade. if houston's options wer asik-parsons-beverly or dwight, yall going dwight. trust me.
Have fun with Lin and Robinson. Maybe a second round pick.
lmao@thinkin yall wouldnt trade asik and parsons if it was ur only choice
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he would definitely look like a bitch for quitting on 2 teams back-to-back....if he leaves without sign-and-trade, he will be the most hated man in LA AND lose a ton of money, it makes absolutely no sense.
Yeah... it's not like him going to the Rockets or anywhere else even guarantees a win, and it's not like he was playing at 100% all the time this past season... dude sat out for a number of games, underwent a change in coaching personnel (which is a significant change for anyone when you have to adjust to a new style), and the team saw a bunch of other injuries on the home stretch. But they were doing their thing in the last half of the season. Even after Kobe was out, they held it down and won enough games to stay in the playoffs.
But fuck it, he doesn't want to stay, so let's get someone who wants in (and preferably doesn't get injured as frequently) and free up some cap space.
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Best Center in the league & it isn't even close.
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Best Center in the league & it isn't even close.
Also a complete diva that's about to ditch out on his second team in a row. You know the league is in the shitter in terms of 5's when a guy that un-skilled is the best lol
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he's not the best
Marc Gasol >
Brook Lopez >
Al Horford >
Demarcus Cousins >
Joaim Noah >
Al Jefferson >
he's the most glorified.
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he's not the best
Marc Gasol >
Brook Lopez >
Al Horford >
Demarcus Cousins >
Joaim Noah >
Al Jefferson >
he's the most glorified.
marc gasol had like 8 rebounds a game last year lol
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Flat out idiotic. Best rebounder out of everyone you named & hands down best defender.
Marc is right there with him & Jefferson is better offensively, but Dwight is better.
You're just bitter because first it was "Dwight >>> Bynum" & that drove you crazy to just make you hate him. Then after Kobe couldn't do shit with him because Kobe is an awful teammate & now he's considering ditching Laker land you'll just say anything.
You're hands down the most biased poster in the history of the internet lol. It's scary.
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dwight was average on defense last year. marc gasol does everything better on offense AND won defensive player of the year...the reason you lebron fans think dwight is so great is because ur the typa cats that fall for media hype and dwight is one of those highly marketed, glorified superstars, who was mainly a product of van gundy's system....not really a franchise player and extremely overrated. he holds himself in the highest of regards, which is scary, because he's more of a glorified tyson chandler who demands the extra touches than he is a superstar, thus making him a cancer.
the only thing dwight has on any of the players i listed is athleticism. im not "mad" for any reason, i just call it like i see it, as always. i didnt like when we initially acquired dwight, and i still dont like him now.....for the same exact reasons. start watching more games and less espn, fellas.
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i find it laughable to think of al horfard as better than howard
demarcus cousins is a headcase of a different kind
al jefferson is great offensively but nowhere near the complete player d-howard has been
joakim noah....well i would take him because of his hustle and ability to play hurt but he's not nearly as good as dwight when both are healthy.
broke lopez? maybe but doubtful
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horford: http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201303030LAL.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201303130ATL.html
demarcus: headcase, but way more talented than dwight on offense and still developing on d
al jefferson: lightyears ahead on offense, and no slouch on d
joakim noah: improved offense, better defender at this stage of their career, much better teammate to have, doesnt demand offense, knows his limitations, and has about the same skill-set as dwight with way more heart
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Best Center in the league & it isn't even close.
Also a complete diva that's about to ditch out on his second team in a row. You know the league is in the shitter in terms of 5's when a guy that un-skilled is the best lol
agreed
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Lol, he's so overhyped and overrated yet NIK sees it deeper than GM's making millions to put teams together; the same GM's clawing to get him. Mitch must just be doing the media a solid and pursuing Dwight.
Even Kobe is making a plea for him to resign.
It's mind blowing how retarded you come off when biased. You keep mentioning offense but Dwight averages more PPG than everyone you named in his career. Only your dumbass would view it where 13 > 18 because the 13 was scored with "better post moves". Style isn't efficiency. Dwight can put up his 20 on alley-oops, put backs and two hook shots and Horford can look like Tim Duncan out there with his footwork, but I'm taking Dwight's raw 20 over Al's finessed 14. He also averages more rebounds and blocks per game than anyone you named.
Like you said, you "call it like you see it". You see it through a biased lens. I call it the way it is; straightforward and factual.
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Lol, he's so overhyped and overrated yet NIK sees it deeper than GM's making millions to put teams together; the same GM's clawing to get him. Mitch must just be doing the media a solid and pursuing Dwight.
Even Kobe is making a plea for him to resign.
It's mind blowing how retarded you come off when biased. You keep mentioning offense but Dwight averages more PPG than everyone you named in his career. Only your dumbass would view it where 13 > 18 because the 13 was scored with "better post moves". Style isn't efficiency. Dwight can put up his 20 on alley-oops, put backs and two hook shots and Horford can look like Tim Duncan out there with his footwork, but I'm taking Dwight's raw 20 over Al's finessed 14. He also averages more rebounds and blocks per game than anyone you named.
Like you said, you "call it like you see it". You see it through a biased lens. I call it the way it is; straightforward and factual.
not sayin he's not a physical beast who can defend the post to perfection with his incredible athleticism, but a lot of these owners want him because he puts asses in seats just as much as they want him for what he can do for the team. and it's no secret by now, kobe aint crazy about dwight, so kill that noise....now, having dwight is still better than having jordan hill as ur starting center, yes, but he is not the superstar he's billed as, and thats all there is to it.
and stop judging basketball by stats, u sound like a complete moron, cuzz.
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The only moronic thing is your selling point for every other center you named is their superior offense, but Dwight averages more PPG than them all and is a better defender and rebounder.
I already pointed out why you don't like Dwight. No need to deny it, it's glaring.
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The only moronic thing is your selling point for every other center you named is their superior offense, but Dwight averages more PPG than them all and is a better defender and rebounder.
I already pointed out why you don't like Dwight. No need to deny it, it's glaring.
he thought enough of Dwight Howard to pick the Lakers to beat the western conference champion Spurs in 6 games
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The only moronic thing is your selling point for every other center you named is their superior offense, but Dwight averages more PPG than them all and is a better defender and rebounder.
I already pointed out why you don't like Dwight. No need to deny it, it's glaring.
I already covered ur retarded paranoid conspiracy theories, I didn't like Dwight when we first acquired him, tell me why's that with ur incredible gift of or rationalizing rational thoughts
I also just clowned u for bein a star nerd and u bring up ppg lmao
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Dwight is going to re-sign with the Lakers. What will NIK do when Kobe comes back a step slower? NIK already hates Dwight, and Nash is falling apart.
NIK, you gonna turn Clipper on us soon?
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Dwight is going to re-sign with the Lakers. What will NIK do when Kobe comes back a step slower? NIK already hates Dwight, and Nash is falling apart.
NIK, you gonna turn Clipper on us soon?
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btw cham, al horford, brook lopez, al jefferson, and demarcus cousins all averaged more points than dwight this year....marc gasol didnt, but he gets 4 assists, which means he does contribute more on offense, as well as turns the ball over a lot less, is not a liability with goin to the line, AND was a better defender. same with joakim noah, 4 assists per game, takes care of the ball, can shoot free throws, and is a better defender.....u really have no argument, dwight was far from the best big man in the nba last season.
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horford averaged .3 points per game more despite not playing with a ball hog like Kobe
and we all know demarcus cousins is a joke.
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in fcat Horford's career high isn't as good as Dwight's career average (including his rookie year)
lmao
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HARRINGTON? LOL
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HARRINGTON? LOL
it was a typo brobro, you shoulda noticed by my next post
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theyre all even better than dwight stat-wise...if u played fantasy and actually contended, u would know this. dwight is actually a negative as much as he is a positive, due to his horrible free throw shooting and extremely high assist-turnover ratio. it's like he costs teams as much as he helps them, real spit.
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hahahahahaha fantasy stats make them better? that's hilarious ::)
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You should be mad at yourself man
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hahahahahaha fantasy stats make them better? that's hilarious ::)
No but since Cham brought em up and says stats are the reason Dwight is better, fantasy proves he is even worse in stats... But the best way to tell he's overrated is by watching him play
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I have figured out my best case situation.
Howard picks Houston, but wants a sign and trade for max money. The Lakers will only do draft picks and one bad contract. (It's always a bad contract in these situations, I'm guessing Lin) The Lakers also want 2 unprotected first round draft choices for the 2014 draft. Hopefully one of them is a lotto pick. Reason, 2014 is STACKED!! Even the 3 pick in the draft could be a future hall of famers. I am hoping the Lakers get into this. It's not in the Laker's culture to do the draft since James Worthy. But the Lakers do need this badly.
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howard is NOT doing a sign and trade if he goes to Houston...why hurt his team and help the lakers?
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Because he wants the money. If there is something about Howard, he wants the money. And as for me, I WANT THE PICKS!! Mitch had better want those picks too.
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horford averaged .3 points per game more despite not playing with a ball hog like Kobe
and we all know demarcus cousins is a joke.
cousins has potential, but he throws up some of the worst shots ive ever seen sometimes and dribbles around the key waaay too much. he needs to streamline his post game. and get his head right but everybody already knows that bit.
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houston have one first round 2014 draft pick, and thats likely to be near the bottom of the 1st round ..
can't see the lakers doing a sign & trade anyway, nobody they get from houston would make them title contenders. they would be better served just riding out the next season with what they have and rebuilding after kobe's $30m contract expires. i wouldnt be paying luxury tax on a team that would be an 8th seed
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If Houston can get a team to trade with them Lin and a few other players for the money dump they'll need to sign Howard and another max player. (Howard asked if they can have 3 max players like Miami) So a money dump will be needed, which usually means trading players for picks. But the Lakers need to make sure those picks come to them. If Houston doesn't sign Howard, then they'd more than likely not trade for picks but keep the team they have.
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I have figured out my best case situation.
Howard picks Houston, but wants a sign and trade for max money. The Lakers will only do draft picks and one bad contract. (It's always a bad contract in these situations, I'm guessing Lin) The Lakers also want 2 unprotected first round draft choices for the 2014 draft. Hopefully one of them is a lotto pick. Reason, 2014 is STACKED!! Even the 3 pick in the draft could be a future hall of famers. I am hoping the Lakers get into this. It's not in the Laker's culture to do the draft since James Worthy. But the Lakers do need this badly.
1.were not wasting Kobe's last 3 years on tanking/rebuilding
2.houston's picks would not be lottery picks
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houston have one first round 2014 draft pick, and thats likely to be near the bottom of the 1st round ..
can't see the lakers doing a sign & trade anyway, nobody they get from houston would make them title contenders. they would be better served just riding out the next season with what they have and rebuilding after kobe's $30m contract expires. i wouldnt be paying luxury tax on a team that would be an 8th seed
Asik, Pasrsons, Beverly >>>>> Dwight
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I have figured out my best case situation.
Howard picks Houston, but wants a sign and trade for max money. The Lakers will only do draft picks and one bad contract. (It's always a bad contract in these situations, I'm guessing Lin) The Lakers also want 2 unprotected first round draft choices for the 2014 draft. Hopefully one of them is a lotto pick. Reason, 2014 is STACKED!! Even the 3 pick in the draft could be a future hall of famers. I am hoping the Lakers get into this. It's not in the Laker's culture to do the draft since James Worthy. But the Lakers do need this badly.
1.were not wasting Kobe's last 3 years on tanking/rebuilding
2.houston's picks would not be lottery picks
1. This years lottery will produce ready to play NOW rookies. I'm telling you now, 2014's class will be the class like 1996 or 2003.
2. Let Houston know to get a package ready and trade with some lotto bound teams. This does two things, weaken's Houston and gives the Lakers lotto picks in the best draft of the last 11 years.
Also, why are you worried about wasting KOBE'S final years. You know what made the Magic Johnson pick great, the Lakers got him and they held him for his whole career. Same with Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, James Worthy, and they traded for a rookie Kobe Bryant. If you have a player who can be that player in the future, then you try to get them when they are coming up. Why wait 5 years when they are a free agent and there is NO guarantee you'll get them, when you can get a future franchise player NOW. Why wait until Kobe retires, the next time the Lakers get a lotto pick might not be for 3-4 years, and by then you don't know who is coming up. Right now the Lakers have Dwight Howard as the ONLY thing worth lotto picks right now. Howard is young enough to build around, and old enough to win now. He's the only thing a team will give up lotto picks for. We shouldn't waste this chance with the best draft in 11 years coming.
Your obsession with Kobe makes you short sighted to the Laker's larger needs. Life after Kobe and having a franchise player for the next 10-15 years, like Magic, like West, like Kobe. That's what makes the Lakers great, they always have the player, or they sign that player. And right now if you have an asset that can get lotto picks in return, you do it.
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if you want to watch Kobe's last 3 years as a Laker with us rebuilding, then just start following the T-Wolves...you're not enough of a Laker fan to understand the greatness of Kobe and just how much he's meant to the organization. u think theres just another Magic or Kobe waiting around the corner? lmfao....only when Kobe retires u will realize just how spoiled we were. thats a once in a lifetime player...appreciate.
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Well I agree Kobe is a once in a generation player, with the talent in this draft, it's not too much to ask to get one. Hell, it's not a rebuild if Kobe is still starting and the kid comes off the bench. Rookies are on title teams all the time. But in a draft this deep, you'd be a fool NOT to try and get in. We may not get Wiggins, but we can pick up some youth who can contribute now, and make you argue that this next kid is better than LeBron because he won a title in his rookie year... *cough*likeMagic*cough*. What's so wrong with getting a player who'll be good now, and great later to help contribute.
This is why I HATE Kobe fans who'll put the needs of their standom to Kobe over the needs of the Lakers, when Kobe would more than likely get a young player next year too. Kobe has said over and over the Lakers need to get younger.
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i think ur missing the point...the reason i dont want to tank for rookies IS because i'm putting the lakers first. if we have an opportunity to win now, i much rather take that, and building for NOW around Kobe gives us just that....all ur ideas have been terrible, just chalk it up as a loss brodie.
we do need to get younger, but we dont need to trade for picks. we need to get players who are ready to contribute 2013-2014. thats all there is to it.
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DWIGHT TO MAKE DECISION FRIDAY:
Peter Vescey said on Twitter Tuesday that his sources suggest Dwight Howard will make his "decision" on Friday, in regards to what team he'll be joining next season.
The Rockets are the favorites, the Lakers make a lot of sense, and the Mavericks, Hawks and Warriors are also in play. We're thinking Rockets, but wouldn't be surprised regardless of where Howard ends up. He's historically had a difficult time making up his mind and it can be argued that free agency won't truly start until he lets the world know where he's going. Jul 3 - 1:09 AM
Source: Peter Vescey on Twitter
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I have figured out my best case situation.
Howard picks Houston, but wants a sign and trade for max money. The Lakers will only do draft picks and one bad contract. (It's always a bad contract in these situations, I'm guessing Lin) The Lakers also want 2 unprotected first round draft choices for the 2014 draft. Hopefully one of them is a lotto pick. Reason, 2014 is STACKED!! Even the 3 pick in the draft could be a future hall of famers. I am hoping the Lakers get into this. It's not in the Laker's culture to do the draft since James Worthy. But the Lakers do need this badly.
1.were not wasting Kobe's last 3 years on tanking/rebuilding
then why is Mike D'antoni the head coach for the next 2 years?
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Tank? How? Houston has NOTHING of value to winning next year that they are willing to give up. The only thing they have is Harden. But the whole reason Howard would go to Houston is Harden, so that's out the question. So if Howard picks Houston, then you get the most value out of Howard you possibly can. You tell Houston to get some trades for some first round draft picks in 2014, and you say then you can have Howard, so Houston will have to trade some players that they wanted to trade to LA to other teams for their draft picks. Because you are NOT winning a title next year with Lin as your point guard. After that you sign some vet big men to one year deals, as in 2014 the Lakers will have a TON of cap space and you don't want to mess that up. This is about maximizing having Dwight Howard. If the Lakers gave up Andrew Bynum for Howard, then why not maximize this position. Look at the Cavs when they lost LeBron, they ended up with many draft picks. After 2014 the Lakers will be dumping huge portions of this roster, it's time to put pieces together to reload. After all, the Lakers never rebuild, they reload.
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Tank? How? Houston has NOTHING of value to winning next year that they are willing to give up. The only thing they have is Harden. But the whole reason Howard would go to Houston is Harden, so that's out the question. So if Howard picks Houston, then you get the most value out of Howard you possibly can. You tell Houston to get some trades for some first round draft picks in 2014, and you say then you can have Howard, so Houston will have to trade some players that they wanted to trade to LA to other teams for their draft picks. Because you are NOT winning a title next year with Lin as your point guard. After that you sign some vet big men to one year deals, as in 2014 the Lakers will have a TON of cap space and you don't want to mess that up. This is about maximizing having Dwight Howard. If the Lakers gave up Andrew Bynum for Howard, then why not maximize this position. Look at the Cavs when they lost LeBron, they ended up with many draft picks. After 2014 the Lakers will be dumping huge portions of this roster, it's time to put pieces together to reload. After all, the Lakers never rebuild, they reload.
if u think asik, parson, and beverly wouldnt be valuable to use, then ur very much mistaking, my friend.
anyways, i think ur plan sucks...chasing draft picks are for teams like the cavs and raptors. were not getting lottery picks, so u can forget about it...were after the nba-ready players, as we should be.
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i can't wait til Friday when Dwight is donning a Rockets uniform
OKC and Rockets in a playoff series would be amazing
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Tank? How? Houston has NOTHING of value to winning next year that they are willing to give up. The only thing they have is Harden. But the whole reason Howard would go to Houston is Harden, so that's out the question. So if Howard picks Houston, then you get the most value out of Howard you possibly can. You tell Houston to get some trades for some first round draft picks in 2014, and you say then you can have Howard, so Houston will have to trade some players that they wanted to trade to LA to other teams for their draft picks. Because you are NOT winning a title next year with Lin as your point guard. After that you sign some vet big men to one year deals, as in 2014 the Lakers will have a TON of cap space and you don't want to mess that up. This is about maximizing having Dwight Howard. If the Lakers gave up Andrew Bynum for Howard, then why not maximize this position. Look at the Cavs when they lost LeBron, they ended up with many draft picks. After 2014 the Lakers will be dumping huge portions of this roster, it's time to put pieces together to reload. After all, the Lakers never rebuild, they reload.
if u think asik, parson, and beverly wouldnt be valuable to use, then ur very much mistaking, my friend.
anyways, i think ur plan sucks...chasing draft picks are for teams like the cavs and raptors. were not getting lottery picks, so u can forget about it...were after the nba-ready players, as we should be.
You think the Lakers got Magic Johnson and James Worthy because they were the worst team in the league. In 1979, they owned the NO Jazz pick, and got Magic, and in 1982 they owned the Cav's pick. In 1996 they traded for Kobe during the draft and in 2005 they had their own legit draft pick and got Andrew Bynum.
Of the jerseys hanging in Staples, Elgin Baylor, Gail Goodwich, Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Jerry West all were drafted by the Lakers, and Kobe was drafted with the agreement of the Vlade trade. The ride with Kobe is great, it's amazing, but it's not going to last longer than 4 years.
Also, Beverley hardly played, Asik is OVERRATED and Parsons is the only one in that deal I'd take, but I'd need two better players than Asik and Beverley if I'm giving up Howard.
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asik was the 2nd best rebounder in the league and a good post defender.....he'd be a perfect replacement for howard, without all the bitchin and moanin for undeserved touches and respect. beverly is a young, athletic point guard who started in the playoffs for the rockets and fared well in his rookie season...exactly what we need at the 1....parson, u already know, he's extremely underrated and would be great to have....
as for drafting, look at all the players u listed....all before the draft lottery era. only bynum was drafted by us, and thats because we ended up havin such a terrible season in the rudy-t/frank hamblen era, not something that was planned..... and we traded for kobe as a gamble, he wasnt even a sure thing comin in, we expected him to be a bench player behind eddie jones with some hopes of him one day becoming an all-star....if we can make a move like that again, we will. but were not giving up our best asset for picks. if we do a sign-and-trade (which the lakers are now saying they wont do), then it'll be for contributing players.
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Kobe reportedly challenged Howard in meeting
According to witnesses, Kobe Bryant challenged Dwight Howard to stay with the Lakers and learn how to be a champion.
Bryant apparently invoked Michael Jordan's notorious hard-driving ways and told him he wouldn't let up. Kobe reportedly attempted to show Howard that he needs Bryant and the Lakers as much as they need him. "You have to learn how it's done," Bryant told Howard, witnesses described to Yahoo! Sports. "I know how to do it and I've learned from the best -- players who have won multiple times over and over." It will be very interesting to see whether Bryant's hard-nosed approach will lure Howard back to the Lakers.
Source: Yahoo! Sports Jul 3 - 6:10 PM
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good as gone if that's the case 8)
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I said career wise. And Hack nailed it, he's playing with the biggest ballhog in the leagues history. Guaranteed he'd go back to a 20+per game on any other team in basketball.
You're just bitter towards dude. And he's still a better rebounder and defender than all of them.
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Howard averaged 23 ppg one year while leading the league in rebounding
sad that his ceiling is only an average year for Patrick Ewing or David Robinson but that's better than anyone else in the league by far. including Andrew Bumknee.
Howard benefits from Yao Ming having to retire so early...Yao was better.
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I said career wise. And Hack nailed it, he's playing with the biggest ballhog in the leagues history. Guaranteed he'd go back to a 20+per game on any other team in basketball.
You're just bitter towards dude. And he's still a better rebounder and defender than all of them.
lol@thinkin Lakers didnt need 25 ppg from Dwight....he's just exposed playing outside of Van Gundy's system. do u not understand that he has no back-to-the-basket game and cannot really create for himself?
and how exactly is he a better defender than all of them when he didnt even make all-defense and marc gasol won defensive player of the year? lmao...were going based off his most recent play, not his past. like i said, he was made to look better in orlando because 4 knock down shooters spacing the floor allowed for him to control the paint; easy putbacks and a wide open post to get spoon-fed dunks with defenders extended to threepoint territory. since u dont watch basketball and base everything off stats, u probably have no clue as the what the fuck i just said.
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Hakeem Olajuwon Offers Optimistic Prediction On Dwight Howard Picking Houston: '85 Percent'
Wednesday, July 3, 2013 11:30 pmWritten by: ThePostGame Staff
Hakeem Olajuwon is hardly the unbiased observer when it comes to the Dwight Howard sweepstakes as he was part of the Rockets' delegation to woo the free agent big man. But if you're a Rockets fan, you have to like the vibe Olajuwon got from their sit-down.
"It's an 85 percent chance he ends up in Houston," Olajuwon told ThePostGame on Wednesday. "You never know, but after that meeting we had, I feel very comfortable that we have the best chance to get him."
Olajuwon, who went to the NBA Finals three times and won two titles with the Rockets, and Clyde Drexler were among those who attended Houston's presentation to Howard on Monday in Los Angeles. While they mentioned some off-the-court perks such as how the cost of living and state taxes are more favorable in Texas than California, the central issue was basketball.
Olajuwon said he got the sense Howard liked what the Rockets were selling.
"We're going to come to you," Olajuwon said. "You have James Harden there. You have the backcourt. You're going to get the ball. The coach is there knowing we need your presence in the middle. So we were speaking his language. It's what he wanted. So he was so excited."
The Rockets might be considered the frontrunner for Howard, who has also met with Dallas, Atlanta, Golden State and the Lakers, but that means nothing if he ultimately opts to sign elsewhere.
"If you truly want to win a championship, this is the right team," Olajuwon said. "And I think he feels the sincerity that this is a true opportunity to make something special."
Regardless of team, Howard will have to cope with the considerable scrutiny that comes with being a franchise center.
"He needs to be comfortable," Olajuwon said. "There's a lot of expectations because his position is the primary position for any team. It's the foundation of any team. So he needs to accept that responsibility. When you play with a team that looks for you to establish yourself, before they can establish a team, that makes him more comfortable, knowing his role is so valuable."
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201307/hakeem-olajuwon-houston-rockets-dwight-howard-nba-free-agent
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"In Orlando they just set him up to 'appear' better by setting him up with a supporting cast perfect to fit his style of play. So perfect he made it to the NBA Finals."
...how stupid of me. What kind of second rate organization completely builds the team around it's stars strengths in order to be a contender. Orlando should've just put an average group of shooters around him and made him develop his post game in order to win.
"Since Al Jefferson can create for himself, despite averaging five less PPG in his career than Dwight, he's so much more valuable on offense".
...yeah. I should of figured after you think Kobe shooting a fader over three defenders is more valuable than LeBron overpowering defenders in the paint that this would come out of your mouth.
"Dwight isn't better than any of them on defense despite winning defensive player of the year three years in a row. He had an off year because Kobe is one of the worst teammates a man could ever dream for, but since he didn't get any accolades (the same accolades that are irrelevant in Kobe/MJ convos when I feel like it) he is an awful defender".
Yeah, you're not a complete moron.
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"In Orlando they just set him up to 'appear' better by setting him up with a supporting cast perfect to fit his style of play. So perfect he made it to the NBA Finals."
...how stupid of me. What kind of second rate organization completely builds the team around it's stars strengths in order to be a contender. Orlando should've just put an average group of shooters around him and made him develop his post game in order to win.
"Since Al Jefferson can create for himself, despite averaging five less PPG in his career than Dwight, he's so much more valuable on offense".
...yeah. I should of figured after you think Kobe shooting a fader over three defenders is more valuable than LeBron overpowering defenders in the paint that this would come out of your mouth.
"Dwight isn't better than any of them on defense despite winning defensive player of the year three years in a row. He had an off year because Kobe is one of the worst teammates a man could ever dream for, but since he didn't get any accolades (the same accolades that are irrelevant in Kobe/MJ convos when I feel like it) he is an awful defender".
Yeah, you're not a complete moron.
UR MISSING MY POINT...DWIGHT HOWARD WAS A BENEFICIARY OF A SYSTEM, NOT SOME1 CARRYING A TEAM. IT WAS STAN VAN GUNDY WORKIN A SYSTEM TO PERFECTION, RASHARD LEWISH, HEDO TURKOGLU, AND JAMEER NELSON WERE JUST AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SUCCESS OF THAT TEAM AS DWIGHT.
AND AGAIN, STOP BEIN AN IDIOT AND BRINGIN UP CAREER PPG AVERAGES OF AL JEFFERSON WHEN WERE TALKIN ABOUT RIGHT NOW....GOIN BY LAST SEASON, AL JEFFERSON IS BETTER ON OFFENSE AND EVEN THE STATS SAY THAT, LET ALONE THE FACT THAT AL JEFFERSON IS NOT A TURNOVER MACHINE, A LIABILITY TO GET FOULED, AND AN OVERALL TEAM CANCER.
AND NOW KOBE IS THE REASON DWIGHT WAS SUB-PAR ON DEFENSE RUNNING A DIFFERENT SYSTEM? AND U HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL SOME1 ELSE A MORON?? LMFAO
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Yes, you're a moron.
Dwight was the heart of the system.
Dwight scores more points on a higher FG percentage...it doesn't matter how they get scored, as long as they get scored...plus higher FG%=higher efficiency.
Dwight is the best defensive & rebounding big man in the league.
You should be drooling to hold on to him.
Kobe hurt Dwight by being his ballhoggin' ass self.
That is all.
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the best defensive big in the league who didnt make an all-defense team and came 14th in defensive player of the year voting?....lmao
ocne again, dwight was a system player. a glorified tyson chandler with more baggage and higher demands...u are a casual basketball fan who cant see past stats. one day u will understand.
oh yea, and kobe the ball-hog who is the number 1 assist getter in the league for shooting guards...lmao. and then u call me a moron smfh
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He played with Kobe. Wades points fell playing with Bron and King actually knows how to rack assists. It's just natural.
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ur unbelievably dumb when it comes to basketball
kobe the ball-hog who is the number 1 assist getter in the league for shooting guards...lmao. and then u call me a moron smfh
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Dwights in houston mostly for the financial reasons-no state tax and more importantly, govt only screws him for 20% on child support payments for his 10 kid orphanage
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ur unbelievably dumb when it comes to basketball
kobe the ball-hog who is the number 1 assist getter in the league for shooting guards...lmao. and then u call me a moron smfh
What other shooting guard in the league holds the ball like that? Shooting guards are a dying breed. You're either a combo PG or an over sized, absurdly athletic SF.
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the point is, to call some1 who averages 6 assists per game a ball hog is pretty damn retarded...especially when his role is to score. lebron's a pass-first player and only gets 1 assist more than kobe lmao....and thats with a roster that includes nothin but knock-down shooters. which means kobe's passing game was better than lebron's this year....and he's a "ball hog" :stupid: :-X
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Kobe's pitch a 'complete turnoff' for Dwight
Kobe Bryant's pitch to keep Dwight Howard with the Lakers on Tuesday is said to be a "complete turnoff" for Howard, per Chris Broussard.
Kobe's pitch reportedly revolved around the idea of teaching Dwight how to be a champion. It's a little hard to believe that it would turn off Howard considering that Kobe has five championships to his credit. There really hasn't been much positive news out of Los Angeles, but nobody really knows what Dwight will do for sure. He is expected to make his decision on Friday and we have our fingers crossed that he doesn't drag it out.
Source: Chris Broussard on Twitter
Dwight is a faggot if i've ever seen one
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Dwight doesn't want to end up like Shaq & give Kobe his glory of number six, only to be thrown aside & have morons like you talk like Kobe does what Bron did.
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the point is, to call some1 who averages 6 assists per game a ball hog is pretty damn retarded...especially when his role is to score. lebron's a pass-first player and only gets 1 assist more than kobe lmao....and thats with a roster that includes nothin but knock-down shooters. which means kobe's passing game was better than lebron's this year....and he's a "ball hog" :stupid: :-X
kobe's CAREER HIGH in assists is 6 per game. not 6.1 but 6.0. he averages 4.8 for his career. he's your idol, get his stats right.
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tmrw we get to see Howard tell us he's going to the Rockets
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the point is, to call some1 who averages 6 assists per game a ball hog is pretty damn retarded...especially when his role is to score. lebron's a pass-first player and only gets 1 assist more than kobe lmao....and thats with a roster that includes nothin but knock-down shooters. which means kobe's passing game was better than lebron's this year....and he's a "ball hog" :stupid: :-X
kobe's CAREER HIGH in assists is 6 per game. not 6.1 but 6.0. he averages 4.8 for his career. he's your idol, get his stats right.
hack why u keep speakin out ur ass brobro? i said kobe averages 6 assists a game.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3118
why do i need to "get my facts straight"??
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4.8 is not 6
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4.8 is not 6
when u say some1 averages something, it means ur talking about how much they average CURRENTLY....not careerwise :stupid:
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if you want to know what Kobe is doing currently...it's not running up and down a basketball court nor is it celebrating a title
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Lakers may consider sign-and-trade on Dwight
The Laker may consider a sign-and-trade and will "look at everything" for Dwight Howard, ESPN.com reports.
This seemed like it wasn't even in the realm of possibilities for the Lakers, but they've lost so much momentum to teams like the Rockets and Warriors, they're preparing for the worst. The first team that comes to mind is the Warriors with their limited cap space to go with their recent positive impressions on Howard. There is also talk of the Rockets trading away Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik to a third team to get it done. Although, the Lakers giving up salary cap is a loss as asset for NBA with late draft picks rarely coming to fruition. Hopefully, this saga ends today.
Source: ESPNLA.com Jul 5 - 8:40 AM