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Title: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 09, 2013, 11:33:52 AM
THE GOAT CENTER HAS SPOKEN

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/07/kareem-abdul-jabbar-dwight-howard/

 8)
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 09, 2013, 01:52:07 PM
I don't see any quotes from Bill Russell in there?  :eh:
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 09, 2013, 01:57:59 PM
BILL RUSSELL THE POWER FORWARD?
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 09, 2013, 04:50:20 PM
BILL RUSSELL THE POWER FORWARD?

in today's game yes, they would try to force him to be a PF based on size.


but he was able to go against HOF 7 footers with ease back in the 60's  8)
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 09, 2013, 06:10:13 PM
KAREEM WOULD SHIT ON RUSSELL

Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 09, 2013, 06:52:58 PM
Wilt would shit on you for even making such an assumption
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 09, 2013, 07:07:45 PM
KAREEM>WILT>RUSSELL


RECOGNIZE
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 09, 2013, 08:20:13 PM
KAREEM>WILT>RUSSELL


RECOGNIZE

in terms of not being great??


11 rings and 5 MVPs >
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Elano The One And Only on July 09, 2013, 09:29:47 PM
Wilt would shit on you for even making such an assumption

everybody shits on you every day, little FAG  :D :loser:
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 09, 2013, 10:21:57 PM
NIK don't even use his own ring standards when he tryna argue. Incredible.

Laker greats stay hating on D12.
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 10, 2013, 12:38:00 AM
I've already stated that a ring in the 60s is not equal to a ring in the 80s , any idiot can figure that much
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 10, 2013, 07:41:17 AM
I've already stated that a ring in the 60s is not equal to a ring in the 80s , any idiot can figure that much

And a ring given to you by the most dominate center of all-time isn't the same as completely dominating yourself and repeating.
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 10, 2013, 09:07:14 AM
I've already stated that a ring in the 60s is not equal to a ring in the 80s , any idiot can figure that much

Jerry West won 1 ring...does that mean he really won 0 based on your new standards?   ::)
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 10, 2013, 01:00:27 PM
I've already stated that a ring in the 60s is not equal to a ring in the 80s , any idiot can figure that much

And a ring given to you by the most dominate center of all-time isn't the same as completely dominating yourself and repeating.

LOL@"Given"...every time u say that, u lose another ounce of basketball credibility, do u not realize that? shaq needed kobe and kobe needed shaq, they were both TOP TIER SUPERSTARS and AMONGST THE GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME by that point. either ur trollin ala hack or u really are too young to understand the significance of kobe in the first threepeat. if u wanna discredit kobe for havin shaq, then u gotta discredit MJ for having pippen, and u definitely gotta discredit lebron for having a team stacked with franchise players, hall-of-famers, and knock-down shooters.
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 10, 2013, 01:01:50 PM
I've already stated that a ring in the 60s is not equal to a ring in the 80s , any idiot can figure that much

Jerry West won 1 ring...does that mean he really won 0 based on your new standards?   ::)


west won in the 70s, not the 60s LOL
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 10, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
LOLOLOLOL @ saying franchise players when Pippen and Shaq are regarded higher than Wade in legacy and you've been crying for years that Pau is better than Bosh. And a double LOLOLOLOL for saying "knock down shooters" like if Kobe was on the floor with Mario Chalmers, Ray Allen, Birdman and Shane Battier that they'd survive a quarter....let alone win a Championship.

Don't talk about basketball credibility, nigga. Straight up Laker fans can't even listen to you anymore. Credibility is when people trust and support the things you say and all I've seen is people pronounce you as someone who should just be ignored and looked past when he opens his mouth.

Shaq was far more instrumental and vital to the three peat. They needed Kobe...as a second option. For three years in a row.

And finally nigga, silence. I can't listen to you're entire argument be about how I'm young when you're five years older than me. 13 years ago I was seven and you were twelve. Twelve year olds don't watch the game, breaking down Phil's triangle and understanding defenses. You saw the Lakers had more points than the Nets and got excited and twice as excited when you hit puberty and saw Kobe's mini-fro, you faggot.
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 10, 2013, 05:37:30 PM
Kobe could'nt even coexist with Ray Allen because Allen is 10x a better shooter and would threaten Kobe
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 10, 2013, 05:59:01 PM
LOLOLOLOL @ saying franchise players when Pippen and Shaq are regarded higher than Wade in legacy and you've been crying for years that Pau is better than Bosh. And a double LOLOLOLOL for saying "knock down shooters" like if Kobe was on the floor with Mario Chalmers, Ray Allen, Birdman and Shane Battier that they'd survive a quarter....let alone win a Championship.

OKAY, BUT BOSH WAS A FRANCHISE PLAYER, 20-10 GUY WITH MULTIPLE ALL-STARS BEFORE JOINING THE HEAT, AND WADE WAS ALREADY A TOP 5 ALL-TIME SHOOTING GUARD, A WORLD CHAMPION, AND FINALS MVP...RAY ALLEN A FUTURE HALL OF FAMER, AS WELL. IT'S ALMOST HARD TO LOSE WITH A TEAM LIKE THAT. LAKERS THREEPEAT TEAM WAS KOBE AND SHAQ AND A BUNCH OF ROLE PLAYERS....DONT EVEN SIT HERE AND COMPARE, AS IF UR IDEAS SOUND RATIONAL. AND YEA, KOBE HAS NEVER PLAYED WITH SHOOTERS LIKE LEBRON HAS.....EVER. HE AVERAGED 6 ASSISTS THIS YEAR...WITH SHOOTERS LIKE RAY ALLEN, MIKE MILLER, SHANE BATTIER, MARIO CHALMERS, ETC, HE'D AVERAGE AT LEAST 1-2 MORE....THATS MORE ASSISTS THAN LEBRON, AND LEBRON IS A PASS FIRST PLAYER LMAO......LETS NOT FORGET, MIAMI GOT MUTHAFUCKAZ LIKE JAMES JONES AND RASHARD LEWIS SITTING ON THE BENCH, AND THEY CANT EVEN SNIFF A MINUTE OF ACTION.. THOSE WOULD BE STARTING PLAYERS OR AT THE VERY LEAST 20 MINUTE PER GAME ROTATION PLAYERS ON ANY LAKER TEAM OF THE PAST 15 YEARS LOL!!

Don't talk about basketball credibility, nigga. Straight up Laker fans can't even listen to you anymore. Credibility is when people trust and support the things you say and all I've seen is people pronounce you as someone who should just be ignored and looked past when he opens his mouth.

Shaq was far more instrumental and vital to the three peat. They needed Kobe...as a second option. For three years in a row.

And finally nigga, silence. I can't listen to you're entire argument be about how I'm young when you're five years older than me. 13 years ago I was seven and you were twelve. Twelve year olds don't watch the game, breaking down Phil's triangle and understanding defenses. You saw the Lakers had more points than the Nets and got excited and twice as excited when you hit puberty and saw Kobe's mini-fro, you faggot.

LOL@I SHOULD BE IGNORED.......U FORGETTING 1 THING, MY BASKETBALL KNOWLEDGE IS MUCH STRONGER THAN YOURS, AND WHETHER PEOPLE BELIEVE MY OPINION IS BIASED OR NOT, THEY ALL RECOGNIZE THAT I KNOW MY SHIT....4 CONSECUTIVE FANTASY BASKETBALL TITLES DONT LIE, YOUNG'N

KOBE WAS NEVER TRULY A "2ND OPTION"...HE ATTEMPTED MORE FIELD GOALS THAN SHAQ AND THEY WERE ALWAYS VIEWED AS A 1-2 PUNCH. AT MOST, U CAN SAY KOBE WAS A SECOND OPTION FOR THE VERY FIRST TITLE, BUT BY 2001, KOBE WAS THE BEST ALL-AROUND PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE AND SHAQ WAS THE MOST DOMINANT....GREATEST DUO IN NBA HISTORY. NO SECOND OPTION SHIT...THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SECOND OPTION WHEN UR THE GREATEST DUO.... U PERFORM AS 1, WHICH IS WHAT THEY DID.



LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE WORD FAGGOT COMIN OUT UR MOUTH IS FUNNIER THAN KRAZYSUMWHAT TEACHING AT A MIDDLE SCHOOL. THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS.
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 10, 2013, 11:49:25 PM
lol @ Bosh "was" a franchise player...I don't even know what to say to that.

lol @ touting Wade like he didn't come up short all playoffs long outside of a few stretches in the Finals.

lol @ using fantasy basketball titles as proof of knowledge. Nigga, you spend all year on fantasy basketball forums (but like no exaggeration lmfao). Those places tell you whose a hot pick-up & you nab them quick. Plus fantasy basketball is purely statistical & you go out of your way to denounce stats as "irrelevant".

lol @ acting like you're knowledgeable at all & don't understand the three pointer is the lowest percentage shot you can possibly take. If a guy is shooting 35% from three, he's going to miss 6-7 shots out of ten. Dwight & Pau shooting a higher percentage shot from a Kobe pass will result in a higher assist rate. That's simple fucking math. I seem to recall John Stockton primarily passing to a Mr. Malone. Steve Nash ran that run & gun, but most of his assists were to Amare. Rondo had Allen, but other than that & occasionally Pierce, nobody else was consistently shooting three's in Boston. Arguably your worst logic ever to compare LeBron hoping for a 35% shot to go in than Kobe finding Pau or Dwight (two of the best big men in the league) close to the basket, attempting the highest percentage shot in basketball. Tony Parker is a point guard, who controls the ball all game, whose LOADED with shooters & only averaged 7.5. Because they don't have dominating big men who attack with high percentage shots. Duncan creates for himself & by the time he puts the ball up, Tony doesn't get credit for it. Chris Paul has a lot of assists though...wonder who all of those are too...

Not to even mention Kobe flat out came out & said "I'm not going to shoot as much because we keep losing when I take over twenty shots, so I'm going to look to pass the ball".
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 11, 2013, 06:02:14 AM
lol @ Bosh "was" a franchise player...I don't even know what to say to that.

lol @ touting Wade like he didn't come up short all playoffs long outside of a few stretches in the Finals.

lol @ using fantasy basketball titles as proof of knowledge. Nigga, you spend all year on fantasy basketball forums (but like no exaggeration lmfao). Those places tell you whose a hot pick-up & you nab them quick. Plus fantasy basketball is purely statistical & you go out of your way to denounce stats as "irrelevant".

lol @ acting like you're knowledgeable at all & don't understand the three pointer is the lowest percentage shot you can possibly take. If a guy is shooting 35% from three, he's going to miss 6-7 shots out of ten. Dwight & Pau shooting a higher percentage shot from a Kobe pass will result in a higher assist rate. That's simple fucking math. I seem to recall John Stockton primarily passing to a Mr. Malone. Steve Nash ran that run & gun, but most of his assists were to Amare. Rondo had Allen, but other than that & occasionally Pierce, nobody else was consistently shooting three's in Boston. Arguably your worst logic ever to compare LeBron hoping for a 35% shot to go in than Kobe finding Pau or Dwight (two of the best big men in the league) close to the basket, attempting the highest percentage shot in basketball. Tony Parker is a point guard, who controls the ball all game, whose LOADED with shooters & only averaged 7.5. Because they don't have dominating big men who attack with high percentage shots. Duncan creates for himself & by the time he puts the ball up, Tony doesn't get credit for it. Chris Paul has a lot of assists though...wonder who all of those are too...

Not to even mention Kobe flat out came out & said "I'm not going to shoot as much because we keep losing when I take over twenty shots, so I'm going to look to pass the ball".


YEA...BEFORE PLAYIN WITH LEBRON, BOSH WAS A FRANCHISE PLAYER. U AINT GOTTA SAY SHIT, LITTLE KID. THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, HE WAS LEADING TORONTO TO THE PLAYOFFS IN THOSE YEARS, FALL BACK WITH YA RETARD KNOWLEDGE YOUNG'N

I TELL PEEPS WHOS A HOT PICKUP, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND...COME SOAK GAME

I LOVE WHEN U GET WET DEFENDING LEBRON, THO. THEM MUSCLES MUST BE HITTIN THE SPOT FOR YOU EXTRA HARD RIGHT NOW. HE'S A PASS-FIRST PLAYER WHO AVERAGES 1 MORE ASSIST THAN MR MAMBA...STAY MAKIN EXCUSES SUCKELL
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 11, 2013, 08:41:24 AM
That was a fierce dodge. Anytime mathematics gets involved, your high school dropout ass aborts mission.
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 11, 2013, 01:00:36 PM
^THAT WAS LIKE SOME1 SUCKIN DICK AND CALLIN U GAY WHILE THEY DOIN IT LMFAO
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 11, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
bosh is not a franchise player.  he's a very good player but not someone to build a team around and everyone on this forum knows it.



oh, and that Dwight Howard cat

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/report-dwight-howard-wanted-know-lakers-planned-move-152537813.html
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 11, 2013, 07:57:49 PM
bosh is not a franchise player.  he's a very good player but not someone to build a team around and everyone on this forum knows it.



oh, and that Dwight Howard cat

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/report-dwight-howard-wanted-know-lakers-planned-move-152537813.html


HE WAS A FRANCHISE PLAYER FOR TORONTO...FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM, NO. BUT KOBE WINNING WIT PAU AS A 2ND OPTION IS EQUIVALENT TO LEBRON WINNING WITH BOSH AS A 2ND OPTION, WHICH WE ALL KNOW COULD NEVER HAPPEN.
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 11, 2013, 08:06:19 PM
how many playoff games did he lead Toronto to win?
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Sccit on July 11, 2013, 08:19:17 PM
how many playoff games did he lead Toronto to win?

MORE THAN PAU DID WITH MEMPHIS :laugh:
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on July 11, 2013, 08:22:45 PM
how many playoff games did he lead Toronto to win?

MORE THAN PAU DID WITH MEMPHIS :laugh:


because Pau is a soft-ass euro.  and like Bosh, not a hall of famer  8)
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: LooN3y on July 11, 2013, 09:18:04 PM
Pau is most def a HOFER, his NBA + International resume deems it, not question about that.




but Kareem is better skill/talent wise, nobody was as great as him in the post, foot work, fakes, sky hook, 2nd id say is hakeem in terms of skill and talent


but dominating and winning is another thing. Shaq would of dominated any of these dudes no questions ask,
Title: Re: KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR ON DWIGHT: "POTENTIAL HAS A SHELF-LIFE"
Post by: Remedy360 on July 11, 2013, 10:07:02 PM
how many playoff games did he lead Toronto to win?

MORE THAN PAU DID WITH MEMPHIS :laugh:


because Pau is a soft-ass euro.  and like Bosh, not a hall of famer  8)

This debate again? Dude's easily going to make it in.