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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Sccit on August 29, 2013, 06:46:01 PM
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Why Rajon Rondo Is Not in Same Class as Chris Paul
Justin Haskins 6 hours ago
The Boston Celtics have been fielding trade offers for All-Star point guard Rajon Rondo for the last couple of seasons. Now that time is running out on his very favorable contract, the Celtics must decide whether to trade Rondo or commit to him with a maximum contract.
But is Rajon Rondo really worth a max deal that matches or exceeds salaries paid to Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony?
In order for Rondo to be considered worthy of a maximum contract, it has to be proven that he is on the same level as other elite point guards; he doesn't necessarily have to be better or even equally as good, but he has to at least be close.
As the evidence below proves, however, Rondo does not belong in the same class as other elite guards, and he shouldn't be paid a maximum deal that will handcuff any team that is foolish enough to give it to him.
Why compare Rondo with Chris Paul?
Chris Paul is the ideal player to compare to Rondo to help determine if a max contract is valid, because Paul is not necessarily a pure scorer like Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook, and Paul is probably the only elite point guard who can keep up with Rondo on the defensive end. In short, Paul's talents are more similar to Rondo's than probably any other player in basketball.
Is Rondo an elite-level scorer or shooter?
One of the weakest elements to Rondo's resume is his shooting and scoring ability. Despite shooting a high career average of 48.1 percent from the field, Rondo has managed to average only 11.1 points per game, with 13.7 points per game being his career high. This figure is significantly lower than every other so-called elite point guard in the NBA. Chris Paul, for instance, has a career average of 18.6 points per game on a very solid 47.3 percent shooting, reaching a much more impressive career high of 22.8 points per game in 2008-2009.
The reason why Rondo struggles scoring the ball relative to other great point guards is due to his inability to shoot from mid-range or from the 3-point line. Over his career, Rondo has only managed to average 36.8 percent from at least 13 feet compared to Chris Paul's season average of 41.3 percent. In particular, Rondo has struggled greatly from beyond the arc, hitting only 24.3 percent of 3-pointers on average while Paul made an average of 35.7 percent of his 3s.
Rondo at the charity stripe
Getting to the foul line to shoot free-throws is one of the easiest and most underrated ways a small guard can impact the game. Unfortunately, for Celtics fans, Rondo is one of the worst guards in the NBA at hitting free-throws and getting to the line. In the 2012-2013 NBA season, Rondo made a dismal 64.5 percent of his free-throw attempts, the worst rate of success for any point guard that year who had at least 30 attempts. There were even 39 NBA centers who managed to shoot a better free-throw percentage! Chris Paul, on the other hand, shot 88.5 percent.
Rondo struggles in the fourth quarter while Paul thrives
In Rondo's career, he has taken far fewer than half the number of field-goal attempts in the fourth quarter with five minutes or less to go in the game than Chris Paul has, but Paul and other elite point guards are shooting at a higher rate.
Rondo has made only 41.2 percent of his shots in this important game situation, but Paul has made 45.6 percent of shots, LeBron James has completed 46.1 percent, Rose has sunk 44.3 percent, and Deron Williams has made 43.2 percent. And although the gap here seems relatively small, Rondo's attempts per game are much lower (because he knows he is a poor shooter in the fourth quarter), and the gap between Rondo's shooting percentage and other elite players is much larger when you only look at shots beyond 10 feet.
Rondo doesn't always make his team better
Rondo's inability to shoot from the outside, his stretches of careless ball-control, and his struggles from the free-throw line have, at times, hurt his team more than his incredible passing ability has helped Boston.
After he tore his ACL on Jan. 25 against the Atlanta Hawks, the Celtics were a disappointing 20-23. Despite suffering multiple additional injuries, Boston would post a record of 21-17 for the remainder of the year, a winning percentage with Rondo off the floor of .552 compared to .465 with him on it. This is likely due to the fact that when Rondo was in the lineup for Boston, the Celtics managed to make only an additional 0.3 field-goals on average compared to when he was not in the lineup. In contrast, Chris Paul added an average of 4.8 field goals for his team when he was on the court.
Elite point guards like Chris Paul deserve maximum contract deals, but as this analysis shows, Rajon Rondo, while still one of the best point guards in the NBA, is not on the same playing field as Paul, Rose, Durant, James and other elite players. For that reason, the Celtics would be wise to avoid giving him a long-term deal at or near the maximum yearly salary.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-rajon-rondo-not-same-class-chris-paul-192300990--nba.html
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I'm excited to see Rajon dramatically come back to Earth after losing the pieces around him that elevated him to his eye-popping numbers.
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This year will be his first true test
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he needs to get out of boston, is he just going to waste his best years looming around playoffs and rebuilding?
i hate the green, but it just seems like a damn shame.
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i'll take him on the lakers..he'd be a nice complimentary piece to kobe and nick young
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i'll take him on the lakers..he'd be a nice complimentary piece to kobe and nick young
kobe proved last year he hates not being the best player on the lakers, having rondo would kill him
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i'll take him on the lakers..he'd be a nice complimentary piece to kobe and nick young
kobe proved last year he hates not being the best player on the lakers, having rondo would kill him
lmao@rondo's 10 ppg lookin ass bein the best player on ANY team...face it, he's a good 3rd option for a contender, and a 2nd option anywhere else, at best. kobe will retire a first option. i know it hurts, hack :'(
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rondo is a lock for 13 and 11 a game....quit hating by simply looking at his career average
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rondo is a lock for 13 and 11 a game....quit hating by simply looking at his career average
lol those are not first option numbers...he was even a second option to old-man pierce last year :laugh:
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the thing about rondo is that his lack of shooting skill makes a team to no only require a star front court player and a decent bench, ur going to need a clutch volume shooter thats capable of taking game changing/winning shots. basically your going to need a good wing player one that has some good shooting ability that can pull up/create his own shot and spot up.
and i mentioned volume as well, becauses hes going to have to make up for the points that usually would come from a PG that has range.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go5T2_4dC_M
you guys sound foolish...typical haters
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like i said, rondo is a good player
but if u think he's a number 1 player on a contending team, then ur kiddin urself.
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he was the #1 player on the celtics every year after the 08-09...it all started in the 08-09 playoffs where he averaged a triple double despite KG not playing
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lol pierce was the first option on those teams and u know it....rondo is a beneficiary of the system they ran in boston, where the ball was in his hands at all times. he's a very good defender, but so was bruce bowen...i'd put rondo in the same class as the jose calderons, jrue holidays, and john walls of the league. not in the cp3, tony parker, derrick rose tier.
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LMAO jose calderon isn't dropping 44 points in playoff games against the future champs
jrue holiday? get the fuck outta here with that bullshit
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LMAO jose calderon isn't dropping 44 points in playoff games against the future champs
jrue holiday? get the fuck outta here with that bullshit
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4622/
get mad
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jrue holiday just got traded..if he was so good the 76ers wouldn't ship his ass outta town
you trollin
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Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Russell Westbrook
Derrick Rose
Kryie Irving (will be the best PG within the next two years)
Jrue Holiday
Tony Parker
Steph Curry
Then Rondo, out of PG's I would start a franchise with over Rondo.
Put him over John Wall (for now), Ty Lawson & Damian Lillard.
Rondo played with three first ballot Hall of Famers lol. Can't be serious.
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Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Russell Westbrook
Derrick Rose
Kryie Irving (will be the best PG within the next two years)
Jrue Holiday
Tony Parker
Steph Curry
Then Rondo, out of PG's I would start a franchise with over Rondo.
Put him over John Wall (for now), Ty Lawson & Damian Lillard.
Rondo played with three first ballot Hall of Famers lol. Can't be serious.
i agree....but i'd also start a franchise with john wall or damian lillard over rondo any day.
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Honestly, yeah. I guess start a franchise today.
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ya'll is smoking that angeldust like aaron hernandez
the idea of jrue holiday being anywhere close to Rondo is a joke. I can see why others might take CP3 or Deron...or even Westbrook and Rose. But those guys aren't clutch like Rondo.
I'll take the guy who comes through in the clutch. Jrue holiday? lmao never played a meaningful game in his life
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ya'll is smoking that angeldust like aaron hernandez
the idea of jrue holiday being anywhere close to Rondo is a joke. I can see why others might take CP3 or Deron...or even Westbrook and Rose. But those guys aren't clutch like Rondo.
I'll take the guy who comes through in the clutch. Jrue holiday? lmao never played a meaningful game in his life
clutch? how many game winners does he have?? LOL
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If I had a team like the Nets, I'd want Rondo over Jrue because I trust Rondo more at this stage of their careers to get all that talent involved. But if you gave me a franchise like the Suns, I'd rather have Holiday be my guy since he doesn't have options to go to as reliable and needs to be my #1 option.
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ya'll is smoking that angeldust like aaron hernandez
the idea of jrue holiday being anywhere close to Rondo is a joke. I can see why others might take CP3 or Deron...or even Westbrook and Rose. But those guys aren't clutch like Rondo.
I'll take the guy who comes through in the clutch. Jrue holiday? lmao never played a meaningful game in his life
clutch? how many game winners does he have?? LOL
game winners are always taken by shooters, not point guards who set the table
you don't judge ichiro suzuki based on home runs, do you??
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lol.. lets try this
10 seconds to go in a game down 1, who do u want shooting the basketball...rajon rondo or jrue holiday?
answer honestly
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so you ignore the first 47 minutes and 50 seconds of games now???
one could pose the same question for Shaq and Nate Robinson :D
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so you ignore the first 47 minutes and 50 seconds of games now???
one could pose the same question for Shaq and Nate Robinson :D
id still rather have it in shaq's hands
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I mean if "clutch" is your big factor as to why Rondo is better than anyone, sounds like a lost battle lol.
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I mean if "clutch" is your big factor as to why Rondo is better than anyone, sounds like a lost battle lol.
how does Jrue Holiday do in NBA finals games?
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I mean if "clutch" is your big factor as to why Rondo is better than anyone, sounds like a lost battle lol.
how does Jrue Holiday do in NBA finals games?
Not sure yet. If LeBron decides he's going to take his talents Nawlins next season, we'll find out...or if the Pelicans land three future Hall of Famers.
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or if the Pelicans land three PAST THEIR PRIME future Hall of Famers.
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LOL. They were all-stars every year during their last Finals appearances.
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LOL. They were all-stars every year during their last Finals appearances.
fan votes my friend, fan votes.
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Who was snubbed over them? Melo was in the West. LeBron was obviously the best SF & then it was probably Pierce. Ray was the best shooter in the league. KG was still a top five big man in the entire league.
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Who was snubbed over them? Melo was in the West. LeBron was obviously the best SF & then it was probably Pierce. Ray was the best shooter in the league. KG was still a top five big man in the entire league.
i'm not gonna go dig into the 2009 fan votes but anyone who thinks KG was playing at an all star level in Feb 2010 is on some nice drugs
then again the "NBA big man" is not what he used to be in previous decades :eh:
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ya'll is smoking that angeldust like aaron hernandez
the idea of jrue holiday being anywhere close to Rondo is a joke. I can see why others might take CP3 or Deron...or even Westbrook and Rose. But those guys aren't clutch like Rondo.
I'll take the guy who comes through in the clutch. Jrue holiday? lmao never played a meaningful game in his life
clutch? how many game winners does he have?? LOL
game winners are always taken by shooters, not point guards who set the table
you don't judge ichiro suzuki based on home runs, do you??
thats not entirely true, billups, Magic (shot clutch jump hooks), West, Deron, Marbury, Iverson, chris paul, lawson, curry,
their all capable of hitting game winners and clutch shots, most PGs are good at shooting, they have to be, not necessarily but PGs have been known to shoot, it helps them control/set the tempo of the game.
im not saying rondo cant be better in the future than CP3 without having a J, but as of now his talents doesnt make up for the his inability to shoot jumpers and make free throws when it matters to be considered better than CP3
and again im a guy that doesnt like CP3, but its hard to say anyone is better than him in the league at the 1, but as far as traditional PGs go hes the top, no doubt
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pierce wasnt voted in by fans...he's been the number 1 option for boston during these past few seasons.
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because of Rondo averaging 11 assists a game
can't wait to see Rondo tear shit up this year...he'll be back in December
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jeremy lin coulda averaged 11 assists too with the system boston's been running