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Title: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Sccit on September 14, 2013, 08:32:36 PM
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FUX WIT IT
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Sccit on September 14, 2013, 10:33:52 PM
mayweather wit another boxing lesson


lmfao@the judge who scored it a draw smfh
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Post by: BiggSadot on September 14, 2013, 11:17:55 PM
Knew he was gonna win. People hypin that ginger spic up like he was the truth. Mayweather is top of the line born n bred to be a champ
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 14, 2013, 11:32:48 PM
lmfao@the judge who scored it a draw smfh
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Sccit on September 15, 2013, 01:23:29 AM
cj ross, same bitch judge who fucked up the pacquiao-bradley fight

(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/19553301/146091621.0_standard_352.0.jpg)

bitch has no idea what she's doin
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Post by: Mietek23 on September 15, 2013, 02:14:56 AM
She should be banned from the sport forever after this shit - all the judges lowered the actual score of the fight. 116-112 for a guy who won all 12 rounds is also a joke..
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Post by: Elano The One And Only on September 16, 2013, 02:46:16 AM
lil wayne and bieber? WTF?
http://www.youtube.com/v/E_iZ1gSZV64
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Post by: whoisthis on September 16, 2013, 10:06:54 AM
This is the 2nd fight in a row where I'm really unsure with what the fighters game plan vs Floyd really was. Canelo put up much more of a fight than Guerrero, but he really didn't stick with a solid game plan. There was never a moment where he showed any urgency. Canelo needs to just fight 154 and up.

I gained a ton of respect for DSG on Saturday. He took all of Matthysse's punishment like it was nothing. I already see Danny Garcia lining up for the next shot at Floyd.
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Post by: Mietek23 on September 16, 2013, 01:29:13 PM
Canelo was just too slow and inexperienced to have Floyd run for his money. I don't see nobody who can beat Mayweather at this point, although the fight with Martinez in a catch-weight is something I would like to see next :)
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Post by: O.G A.Geesta'z on September 16, 2013, 05:33:19 PM
Money doing what money does, i hope everyone knew this fight was gonna be boring unless Canelo knocked him out, i thought Canelo was way more competitive then what people think but once Money started picking him apart his frustration started to show and it back fired against him. that fuckin judge should burn in hell for tarnishing boxing though
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 17, 2013, 06:41:50 AM
"Mayweather wins unanimously" was a heavily pounded bet in Vegas. CJ Ross probably has thousands of legitimate death threats.
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Post by: Shallow on September 17, 2013, 07:08:40 PM
Mayweather showed he's clearly the best evasive boxer in the sport right now, but I'm not sure how high I rank him as a fighter. I distinguished the words on purpose. They should change the rules back to 25+ rounds for smaller boxers. I get why heavyweights going that long could lead to severe injury, but can Floyd duck and runfor 25 with out brain damage. I don't think I saw a single punch in round 10. Canelo should have just grabbed his stool and sat in the ring.

Mayweather showed me that Canelo can't hit him. Mayweather didn't show me shit about being able to beat Canelo. I would have scored it a draw too.
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Russell Bell on September 18, 2013, 12:26:43 AM
Mayweather showed he's clearly the best evasive boxer in the sport right now, but I'm not sure how high I rank him as a fighter. I distinguished the words on purpose. They should change the rules back to 25+ rounds for smaller boxers. I get why heavyweights going that long could lead to severe injury, but can Floyd duck and runfor 25 with out brain damage. I don't think I saw a single punch in round 10. Canelo should have just grabbed his stool and sat in the ring.

Mayweather showed me that Canelo can't hit him. Mayweather didn't show me shit about being able to beat Canelo. I would have scored it a draw too.

isnt winning about being better than the other guy?  floyd was definitely better than canelo in that fight.  if he wasnt, canelo wouldve been able to actually hit him.
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 18, 2013, 10:55:30 AM
Don't listen to this guy. He's just riding the urban legend that Floyd "runs". He's just more of a defensive fighter.

Floyd threw 505 total punches to Canelo's 526. May hit him 232 times, Canelo just 117.

I don't think 21 less punches calls for Floyd "dodging" him, especially when he connected 100+ more times.
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Sccit on September 18, 2013, 01:14:23 PM
he's like the spurs of boxing
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Post by: Ghost Drebin on September 18, 2013, 03:59:32 PM
cj ross, same bitch judge who fucked up the pacquiao-bradley fight

(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/19553301/146091621.0_standard_352.0.jpg)

bitch has no idea what she's doin

This bitch fell on her sword today.  Someone was pulling big strings behind the scenes.  gotta follow the money (no Mayweather)
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: whoisthis on September 18, 2013, 04:21:54 PM
Mayweather showed he's clearly the best evasive boxer in the sport right now, but I'm not sure how high I rank him as a fighter. I distinguished the words on purpose. They should change the rules back to 25+ rounds for smaller boxers. I get why heavyweights going that long could lead to severe injury, but can Floyd duck and runfor 25 with out brain damage. I don't think I saw a single punch in round 10. Canelo should have just grabbed his stool and sat in the ring.

Mayweather showed me that Canelo can't hit him. Mayweather didn't show me shit about being able to beat Canelo. I would have scored it a draw too.

isnt winning about being better than the other guy?  floyd was definitely better than canelo in that fight.  if he wasnt, canelo wouldve been able to actually hit him.

Boxing is about being better. True. Very true. Floyd wins fights like they're the Olympics or Amateur bouts, largely based on points. The idea of "Floyd runs too much" is more based on his refusing to stand and trade with a fighter. Every fighter has a different style that they're comfortable with, so that's fine. But, people want to see Floyd trade. Obviously he wouldn't go toe to toe with Canelo, he would be nuts to do that. But, I guarantee if Floyd won a fight like that, sentiments would change. Also, if he was fighting fighters at the top of their game, he would gain more respect.
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Post by: Ghost Drebin on September 18, 2013, 04:25:40 PM

Boxing is about being better. True. Very true. Floyd wins fights like they're the Olympics or Amateur bouts, largely based on points. The idea of "Floyd runs too much" is more based on his refusing to stand and trade with a fighter. Every fighter has a different style that they're comfortable with, so that's fine. But, people want to see Floyd trade. Obviously he wouldn't go toe to toe with Canelo, he would be nuts to do that. But, I guarantee if Floyd won a fight like that, sentiments would change. Also, if he was fighting fighters at the top of their game, he would gain more respect.

True story
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Shallow on September 18, 2013, 09:40:50 PM
Don't listen to this guy. He's just riding the urban legend that Floyd "runs". He's just more of a defensive fighter.

Floyd threw 505 total punches to Canelo's 526. May hit him 232 times, Canelo just 117.

I don't think 21 less punches calls for Floyd "dodging" him, especially when he connected 100+ more times.


I'm not riding anything. I'm just calling it how I saw it. Stats mean nothing in this case. It's not the number of punches so much as the impact of them that I'm talking about. I saw one or two puches thrown by Mayweatrher that semed to be with intent to hurt, as opposed to the other 503 that were thrown with intent to connect and earn a point.

In a boxing exhibition Maywether took Canelo to school, but in a fight he didn't do shit to him.
This isn't the olympics or amatuers. This is supposed to be fighters fighting. That's why I'd call it a draw.

Think about it in sports terms. Mayweather had the best defense possible on a basketball court. Every time the opponent had the ball he blocked the shot or stole the ball outright. The other team didn't make a single basket. But Team Mayweather never once took the ball pased halfcourt to even take a shot. At the end of the day the score is zero/zero. Thus, a draw.

I have no clue who would have won in a fight. Maybe in 25 rounds Mayweather eventually gets a few shots on Canello and really hurts him. I'm just saying what I saw on Saturday was not one guy beating another in a fight.
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Nutty on September 18, 2013, 11:24:17 PM
Don't listen to this guy. He's just riding the urban legend that Floyd "runs". He's just more of a defensive fighter.

Floyd threw 505 total punches to Canelo's 526. May hit him 232 times, Canelo just 117.

I don't think 21 less punches calls for Floyd "dodging" him, especially when he connected 100+ more times.


I'm not riding anything. I'm just calling it how I saw it. Stats mean nothing in this case. It's not the number of punches so much as the impact of them that I'm talking about. I saw one or two puches thrown by Mayweatrher that semed to be with intent to hurt, as opposed to the other 503 that were thrown with intent to connect and earn a point.

In a boxing exhibition Maywether took Canelo to school, but in a fight he didn't do shit to him.
This isn't the olympics or amatuers. This is supposed to be fighters fighting. That's why I'd call it a draw.

Think about it in sports terms. Mayweather had the best defense possible on a basketball court. Every time the opponent had the ball he blocked the shot or stole the ball outright. The other team didn't make a single basket. But Team Mayweather never once took the ball pased halfcourt to even take a shot. At the end of the day the score is zero/zero. Thus, a draw.

I have no clue who would have won in a fight. Maybe in 25 rounds Mayweather eventually gets a few shots on Canello and really hurts him. I'm just saying what I saw on Saturday was not one guy beating another in a fight.

Why would you describe a sport with another sport? lol. Maybe I need to read the rule book but I thought boxing was based on a points system. MM should've won by unanimous decision. Stats is a big deal in boxing.
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Post by: Sccit on September 18, 2013, 11:41:18 PM
Don't listen to this guy. He's just riding the urban legend that Floyd "runs". He's just more of a defensive fighter.

Floyd threw 505 total punches to Canelo's 526. May hit him 232 times, Canelo just 117.

I don't think 21 less punches calls for Floyd "dodging" him, especially when he connected 100+ more times.


I'm not riding anything. I'm just calling it how I saw it. Stats mean nothing in this case. It's not the number of punches so much as the impact of them that I'm talking about. I saw one or two puches thrown by Mayweatrher that semed to be with intent to hurt, as opposed to the other 503 that were thrown with intent to connect and earn a point.

In a boxing exhibition Maywether took Canelo to school, but in a fight he didn't do shit to him.
This isn't the olympics or amatuers. This is supposed to be fighters fighting. That's why I'd call it a draw.

Think about it in sports terms. Mayweather had the best defense possible on a basketball court. Every time the opponent had the ball he blocked the shot or stole the ball outright. The other team didn't make a single basket. But Team Mayweather never once took the ball pased halfcourt to even take a shot. At the end of the day the score is zero/zero. Thus, a draw.

I have no clue who would have won in a fight. Maybe in 25 rounds Mayweather eventually gets a few shots on Canello and really hurts him. I'm just saying what I saw on Saturday was not one guy beating another in a fight.


THAT MAY BE TRUE IN THEORY, BUT CONSIDERING BOXING DONT WORK LIKE THAT, MAYWEATHER'S DOIN THE RIGHT THING AND SCORING POINTS THE WAY U SCORE POINTS IN BOXING. IN BASKETBALL, U SCORE POINTS BY PUTTING THE BASKET IN THE HOOP. IN BOXING, IT'S BY CONNECTED PUNCHES. HE'S THE SPURS OF BOXING.
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 19, 2013, 09:57:56 AM
Watch UFC if you want to see someone on the floor. The Spurs of boxing is a fair comparison in terms of his execution.

Still the most exciting man to watch in the sport by a couple million miles.
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Post by: whoisthis on September 19, 2013, 04:38:44 PM
Still the most exciting man to watch in the sport by a couple million miles.

Not at all. Floyd may be the most interesting man to watch in Boxing. But, not even close to being the most exciting.

Pacquiao is still more exciting. On a smaller scale, guys like GGG, Matthysse, Maidana, Martinez, etc. all have more exciting bouts.

If Floyd fought Cotto when he was at his height. Or Margarito when he was at his height. Or Mosely. Or avoided fights with far lesser talent like Ortiz & Guerrero. Or just took the 230878905423 different offers Manny gave him. Floyd would be an exciting fighter to watch because he would be picking off guys at the TOP of their game. That's just not the case.

I heard recently, not sure if it was on the PPV telecast or elsewhere, that Floyd offered Canelo this fight a couple years ago. This is a kid in his early 20's. In Boxing that is still very green. Sure he's had a lot of fights, but there's quite a few bums on that list. He was nowhere near ready now, imagine a year or 2 back. This is not what an exciting fighter does.
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 19, 2013, 06:23:39 PM
Must be exciting enough to get the biggest draw per fight.

Not saying I wouldn't rather watch Matthysse go for the knockout, but that undefeated streak on the line will always be worth the watch.
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Post by: whoisthis on September 19, 2013, 06:57:45 PM
That is more interest than excitement. That's why I said, if he was fighting guys at their best, then he'd be exciting.

Had he fought Cotto in early 2008 after Cotto beat Mosely. Or Margarito in late 08 after he beat Cotto. Or Mosely anywhere around then. Instead he fought Mosely in 2010 and Cotto in 2012 and never fought Margarito.

He's the lone top American Boxer. People hate him. People are interested in seeing him lose.
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Post by: Shallow on September 19, 2013, 07:12:53 PM
Don't listen to this guy. He's just riding the urban legend that Floyd "runs". He's just more of a defensive fighter.

Floyd threw 505 total punches to Canelo's 526. May hit him 232 times, Canelo just 117.

I don't think 21 less punches calls for Floyd "dodging" him, especially when he connected 100+ more times.


I'm not riding anything. I'm just calling it how I saw it. Stats mean nothing in this case. It's not the number of punches so much as the impact of them that I'm talking about. I saw one or two puches thrown by Mayweatrher that semed to be with intent to hurt, as opposed to the other 503 that were thrown with intent to connect and earn a point.

In a boxing exhibition Maywether took Canelo to school, but in a fight he didn't do shit to him.
This isn't the olympics or amatuers. This is supposed to be fighters fighting. That's why I'd call it a draw.

Think about it in sports terms. Mayweather had the best defense possible on a basketball court. Every time the opponent had the ball he blocked the shot or stole the ball outright. The other team didn't make a single basket. But Team Mayweather never once took the ball pased halfcourt to even take a shot. At the end of the day the score is zero/zero. Thus, a draw.

I have no clue who would have won in a fight. Maybe in 25 rounds Mayweather eventually gets a few shots on Canello and really hurts him. I'm just saying what I saw on Saturday was not one guy beating another in a fight.

Why would you describe a sport with another sport? lol. Maybe I need to read the rule book but I thought boxing was based on a points system. MM should've won by unanimous decision. Stats is a big deal in boxing.


I'm comparing it to other sports because that's what boxing wants. Once upon a time there was no need for judges and points were something no one ever thought of. And it's not like I'm saying Floyd would lose a 1920s rules boxing match. I don't know who would win. I'm just saying I didn't see much of a fight out of Floyd on Saturday. A great display of skill, but no fight.
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Post by: Shallow on September 19, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Don't listen to this guy. He's just riding the urban legend that Floyd "runs". He's just more of a defensive fighter.

Floyd threw 505 total punches to Canelo's 526. May hit him 232 times, Canelo just 117.

I don't think 21 less punches calls for Floyd "dodging" him, especially when he connected 100+ more times.


I'm not riding anything. I'm just calling it how I saw it. Stats mean nothing in this case. It's not the number of punches so much as the impact of them that I'm talking about. I saw one or two puches thrown by Mayweatrher that semed to be with intent to hurt, as opposed to the other 503 that were thrown with intent to connect and earn a point.

In a boxing exhibition Maywether took Canelo to school, but in a fight he didn't do shit to him.
This isn't the olympics or amatuers. This is supposed to be fighters fighting. That's why I'd call it a draw.

Think about it in sports terms. Mayweather had the best defense possible on a basketball court. Every time the opponent had the ball he blocked the shot or stole the ball outright. The other team didn't make a single basket. But Team Mayweather never once took the ball pased halfcourt to even take a shot. At the end of the day the score is zero/zero. Thus, a draw.

I have no clue who would have won in a fight. Maybe in 25 rounds Mayweather eventually gets a few shots on Canello and really hurts him. I'm just saying what I saw on Saturday was not one guy beating another in a fight.


THAT MAY BE TRUE IN THEORY, BUT CONSIDERING BOXING DONT WORK LIKE THAT, MAYWEATHER'S DOIN THE RIGHT THING AND SCORING POINTS THE WAY U SCORE POINTS IN BOXING. IN BASKETBALL, U SCORE POINTS BY PUTTING THE BASKET IN THE HOOP. IN BOXING, IT'S BY CONNECTED PUNCHES. HE'S THE SPURS OF BOXING.

More like the Harlem Globetrotters.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 19, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
mayweather ain't beating no Smokin' Joe
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Sccit on September 19, 2013, 08:50:24 PM
Don't listen to this guy. He's just riding the urban legend that Floyd "runs". He's just more of a defensive fighter.

Floyd threw 505 total punches to Canelo's 526. May hit him 232 times, Canelo just 117.

I don't think 21 less punches calls for Floyd "dodging" him, especially when he connected 100+ more times.


I'm not riding anything. I'm just calling it how I saw it. Stats mean nothing in this case. It's not the number of punches so much as the impact of them that I'm talking about. I saw one or two puches thrown by Mayweatrher that semed to be with intent to hurt, as opposed to the other 503 that were thrown with intent to connect and earn a point.

In a boxing exhibition Maywether took Canelo to school, but in a fight he didn't do shit to him.
This isn't the olympics or amatuers. This is supposed to be fighters fighting. That's why I'd call it a draw.

Think about it in sports terms. Mayweather had the best defense possible on a basketball court. Every time the opponent had the ball he blocked the shot or stole the ball outright. The other team didn't make a single basket. But Team Mayweather never once took the ball pased halfcourt to even take a shot. At the end of the day the score is zero/zero. Thus, a draw.

I have no clue who would have won in a fight. Maybe in 25 rounds Mayweather eventually gets a few shots on Canello and really hurts him. I'm just saying what I saw on Saturday was not one guy beating another in a fight.


THAT MAY BE TRUE IN THEORY, BUT CONSIDERING BOXING DONT WORK LIKE THAT, MAYWEATHER'S DOIN THE RIGHT THING AND SCORING POINTS THE WAY U SCORE POINTS IN BOXING. IN BASKETBALL, U SCORE POINTS BY PUTTING THE BASKET IN THE HOOP. IN BOXING, IT'S BY CONNECTED PUNCHES. HE'S THE SPURS OF BOXING.

More like the Harlem Globetrotters.


IN WHAT WAY? HARLEM GLOBTROTTERS WERE FLASHY AND EXTREMELY ENTERTAINING TO WATCH......I THINK THATS AS FAR OFF AS U CAN GET.
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Post by: whoisthis on September 19, 2013, 09:51:35 PM
Floyd is the Spurs of Boxing when you consider his style.
Floyd is the Globtrotters of Boxing when you consider the fights he takes.
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Post by: V2DHeart on September 20, 2013, 02:10:39 AM
regardless of the fact that he's a little whore and is to boxing like what Lil Wayne is to Hip Hop (as far as characteristics go) Mayweather deserved to win that fight. Based on a point system he had it. I don't know why people would consider it a draw  ???
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Post by: Shallow on September 20, 2013, 08:29:05 PM



IN WHAT WAY? HARLEM GLOBTROTTERS WERE FLASHY AND EXTREMELY ENTERTAINING TO WATCH......I THINK THATS AS FAR OFF AS U CAN GET.



Well, he's not really the Globetrotters, because the Globetrotters were all offense. Floyd seems to be all defense. The Spurs isn't a good analogy either though. A Spurs comparison would be a very boring technical fighter with no flash who wins by decision. Floyd has too much attitude to be the Spurs.

But the main issue I have with the Spurs comparison is that even though it's no flash they still score baskets and win. What I saw from Floyd last saturday was a guy with no desire to score any baskets. What I mean is the hardest hit you can connect with in basketball is a 3 point shot,which is only 1 point higher than a regular basket. In boxing the hardest hit would be an uppercut or combo. An intent to harm is the key. The desire to destroy. If I want to see technical boxing I'll watch the Olympics or amateurs. I want to see a fight, and Floyd never gives one.
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Post by: Sccit on September 20, 2013, 09:12:17 PM



IN WHAT WAY? HARLEM GLOBTROTTERS WERE FLASHY AND EXTREMELY ENTERTAINING TO WATCH......I THINK THATS AS FAR OFF AS U CAN GET.



Well, he's not really the Globetrotters, because the Globetrotters were all offense. Floyd seems to be all defense. The Spurs isn't a good analogy either though. A Spurs comparison would be a very boring technical fighter with no flash who wins by decision. Floyd has too much attitude to be the Spurs.

But the main issue I have with the Spurs comparison is that even though it's no flash they still score baskets and win. What I saw from Floyd last saturday was a guy with no desire to score any baskets. What I mean is the hardest hit you can connect with in basketball is a 3 point shot,which is only 1 point higher than a regular basket. In boxing the hardest hit would be an uppercut or combo. An intent to harm is the key. The desire to destroy. If I want to see technical boxing I'll watch the Olympics or amateurs. I want to see a fight, and Floyd never gives one.

the fuck outta here, thats how they score points in boxing, u dont get to make the rules
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Post by: Russell Bell on September 21, 2013, 03:11:51 PM
Floyd is the Spurs of Boxing when you consider his style.
Floyd is the Globtrotters of Boxing when you consider the fights he takes.


youve been played.

1st off he didnt duck paquiao.

2nd whos out there that he "should be" fighting?

exactly.
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Shallow on September 22, 2013, 06:19:56 PM



IN WHAT WAY? HARLEM GLOBTROTTERS WERE FLASHY AND EXTREMELY ENTERTAINING TO WATCH......I THINK THATS AS FAR OFF AS U CAN GET.



Well, he's not really the Globetrotters, because the Globetrotters were all offense. Floyd seems to be all defense. The Spurs isn't a good analogy either though. A Spurs comparison would be a very boring technical fighter with no flash who wins by decision. Floyd has too much attitude to be the Spurs.

But the main issue I have with the Spurs comparison is that even though it's no flash they still score baskets and win. What I saw from Floyd last saturday was a guy with no desire to score any baskets. What I mean is the hardest hit you can connect with in basketball is a 3 point shot,which is only 1 point higher than a regular basket. In boxing the hardest hit would be an uppercut or combo. An intent to harm is the key. The desire to destroy. If I want to see technical boxing I'll watch the Olympics or amateurs. I want to see a fight, and Floyd never gives one.

the fuck outta here, thats how they score points in boxing, u dont get to make the rules


Wrong. They score points in boxing by subjectively deciding who won each round based on a 10 to 1 grade. There are few written rules on how a round is decided. The rule of thumb is the winner of a round wins 10-9, and if he scores a knock down the winner wins 10-8, 10-7 for two knock downs. But there is nothing from stopping a judge from rating it 7-4.

In basket ball, it's a basket or it's not. You don't get points for form. A 3 point shot is 3 points if made and zero if missed. If you set your feet perfectly, line up your elbow, and shoot with perfect grace, and miss, it's zero points. If you close your eyes and underhand the shot way up in the air and it comes down through the hoop it's 3 points.

In boxing there is no stat system saying he threw more punches and landed more punches there for he must win the round based on the higher connection percentage. And the power of a punch matters more than the technique. A knockdown is the only objective part of the score card. You have to award one less point if a guy is knocked down. You can throw 40 punches in a round, connect on all of them, and dodge 49 of the 50 punches by your opponent, but if the 50th punch is a knock down the round is a 9-9 draw. And if the punch is a knock out then the 100% connection percentage means nothing and you lose.

But often it comes down to a judge deciding who won, and if the judge decided tie then so be it. I easily would have scored that fight 108-108, and I wouldn't have regretted it one bit.
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: whoisthis on September 23, 2013, 06:20:42 AM


youve been played.

1st off he didnt duck paquiao.

2nd whos out there that he "should be" fighting?

exactly.

Sorry buddy. I believe the person who's been played would be you.

Manny and his camp offered Floyd the fight plenty of times. They offered him more money. And him never accepted.

I've laid out the "who he should be" fighting scenario already. At this moment, the Vets that can give him a run are passed their prime and the up and comers are still to young. That leaves on Pac-Man. But, Floyd has already put the nail in that coffin with this "The only way he's getting the fight with me is if he signs with Mayweather Promotions. He's got to give me fights with Mayweather Promotions. If he don't give me no fights under Mayweather Promotions, then he's not getting the fight."

Exactly.
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Post by: O.G A.Geesta'z on September 23, 2013, 11:24:35 AM
im gonna be so pissed if Mayweather vs Khan happens..
Khan doesnt deserve it in my opinion hes been exposed too many times and needs to earn his spot at Floyd, maybe if he beats Alexander then his name will seem more vaild but until then he needs to keep his mouth shut

so whats next for Floyd?
i would like to see him against
Danny Garcia, Winner of Marquez/ Bradley (which wont happen cus of Top Rank) or maybe a clash of Pacman if he can get through Rios solidly
Title: Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
Post by: Sccit on September 23, 2013, 11:27:07 AM



IN WHAT WAY? HARLEM GLOBTROTTERS WERE FLASHY AND EXTREMELY ENTERTAINING TO WATCH......I THINK THATS AS FAR OFF AS U CAN GET.



Well, he's not really the Globetrotters, because the Globetrotters were all offense. Floyd seems to be all defense. The Spurs isn't a good analogy either though. A Spurs comparison would be a very boring technical fighter with no flash who wins by decision. Floyd has too much attitude to be the Spurs.

But the main issue I have with the Spurs comparison is that even though it's no flash they still score baskets and win. What I saw from Floyd last saturday was a guy with no desire to score any baskets. What I mean is the hardest hit you can connect with in basketball is a 3 point shot,which is only 1 point higher than a regular basket. In boxing the hardest hit would be an uppercut or combo. An intent to harm is the key. The desire to destroy. If I want to see technical boxing I'll watch the Olympics or amateurs. I want to see a fight, and Floyd never gives one.

the fuck outta here, thats how they score points in boxing, u dont get to make the rules


Wrong. They score points in boxing by subjectively deciding who won each round based on a 10 to 1 grade. There are few written rules on how a round is decided. The rule of thumb is the winner of a round wins 10-9, and if he scores a knock down the winner wins 10-8, 10-7 for two knock downs. But there is nothing from stopping a judge from rating it 7-4.

In basket ball, it's a basket or it's not. You don't get points for form. A 3 point shot is 3 points if made and zero if missed. If you set your feet perfectly, line up your elbow, and shoot with perfect grace, and miss, it's zero points. If you close your eyes and underhand the shot way up in the air and it comes down through the hoop it's 3 points.

In boxing there is no stat system saying he threw more punches and landed more punches there for he must win the round based on the higher connection percentage. And the power of a punch matters more than the technique. A knockdown is the only objective part of the score card. You have to award one less point if a guy is knocked down. You can throw 40 punches in a round, connect on all of them, and dodge 49 of the 50 punches by your opponent, but if the 50th punch is a knock down the round is a 9-9 draw. And if the punch is a knock out then the 100% connection percentage means nothing and you lose.

But often it comes down to a judge deciding who won, and if the judge decided tie then so be it. I easily would have scored that fight 108-108, and I wouldn't have regretted it one bit.


cj ross?
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Post by: Shallow on September 23, 2013, 05:26:11 PM
Nope. CJ Ross was stupid enough to award a few 10s to each to each fighter in the fight. Neither would have gotten a ten on my card. One didn't have the skill and the other didn't have the heart. To get a ten you have to be able to hit the guy more often than you miss and at least one quarter of the hits have to actually hurt a little.
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Post by: Sccit on September 23, 2013, 05:44:30 PM
i get ur point



but if u think mayweather didnt win...ur wrong. duno what else 2 say.
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Post by: Shallow on September 23, 2013, 07:13:38 PM
i get ur point



but if u think mayweather didnt win...ur wrong. duno what else 2 say.


I'm just saying I understand a draw. I also fully understand a judge awarding Mayweather all 12 rounds for a 120-108 card. But I also understand a 108-108 card. In my mind Canelo did not win a single round, so giving Alvarez a 10 on any round I would not. But I personally wouldn't have given a 10 to Mayweather either.
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Post by: O.G A.Geesta'z on September 23, 2013, 11:24:04 PM
Coming from me the biggest and most respectable boxing fan Here if you thought it was a draw or how it could be a draw you don't know shit about boxing.... I thought it was closer then what people think but it was no draw
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Post by: Russell Bell on September 23, 2013, 11:53:25 PM


youve been played.

1st off he didnt duck paquiao.

2nd whos out there that he "should be" fighting?

exactly.

Sorry buddy. I believe the person who's been played would be you.

Manny and his camp offered Floyd the fight plenty of times. They offered him more money. And him never accepted.

I've laid out the "who he should be" fighting scenario already. At this moment, the Vets that can give him a run are passed their prime and the up and comers are still to young. That leaves on Pac-Man. But, Floyd has already put the nail in that coffin with this "The only way he's getting the fight with me is if he signs with Mayweather Promotions. He's got to give me fights with Mayweather Promotions. If he don't give me no fights under Mayweather Promotions, then he's not getting the fight."

Exactly.

obvious negotiating tactic.  to blame the fight not happening squarely on mayweather's shoulders is just ignorance.
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Post by: whoisthis on September 24, 2013, 09:33:57 AM


obvious negotiating tactic.  to blame the fight not happening squarely on mayweather's shoulders is just ignorance.

Thinking that wanting Manny to sign with him to agree to the fight is an "obvious negotiating tactic" takes ignorance to another level buddy.
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Post by: Russell Bell on September 24, 2013, 10:54:21 PM


obvious negotiating tactic.  to blame the fight not happening squarely on mayweather's shoulders is just ignorance.

Thinking that wanting Manny to sign with him to agree to the fight is an "obvious negotiating tactic" takes ignorance to another level buddy.

LMAO

Do you know who Bob Arum is?  I'll wait while you google it. 
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Post by: whoisthis on September 25, 2013, 11:27:13 AM
I've never heard of this guy. Arum you say? No. Never in the 15 years that I've been watching Boxing religiously, have I heard of Bob Arum. Not even in the years prior where I watched Boxing with my dad, had I heard of such a person. I unfortunately, do not feel up to the challenge to punch in the name Bob Arum to my Googler and gather information on him. Please, Russell Bell, educate me on Bob Arum.
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Post by: Javii on September 25, 2013, 08:44:23 PM
Mayweather isn't just defense either. Since the 90's, once they started tracking the accuracy of boxers, Floyd has the highest percentage. The biggest weakness Floyd has is that his hands are very weak. He's able to be dominant with weak hands, let that sink in. That's the only reason I think if he was boxing in the late 70's and 80's, he would have trouble. But Floyd with healthy hands, would probably beat anybody in any era, especially during his lightweight reign. That's basically what prevents him from being entertaining to the mainstream fan. He can't take the same offensive risks as he used to.


Floyd's greatness is tough to compare to another sport. He's shown to be a chameleon in the ring. He literally uses every single tool he knows, but it all depends on who his opponent is. Before the fight, ESPN had a chart on what advantages each fighter has. On the subject of combination punches, they had Canelo with the advantage. In the actual fight, Floyd was backing up Canelo with combinations. Floyd adapts to his opponent's weakness, or what he feels works best. The Spurs can't become a run and gun team from Game 1 to Game 2. The Dodgers don't become a small ball team in Game 1 and switch to the long ball for Game 2. Floyd? He can take the fight to you on the inside. (They'll say he has no legs though). Next fight, he looks a damn 20 year old moving around vs Guerrero. Floyd can be dirty if he has to. Floyd can pot shot. Floyd can throw combinations. Marquez is too slow for the check left hook? That's his main weapon. Guerrero has no answer for the lead right hand? That's his main weapon. Canelo gets uncomfortable with a constant jab? That's his main weapon. Hatton is frustrated every time he has to reset thanks to a jab to the body? That's what he gets. And these are just recent examples of his greatness. We're witnessing absolute greatness from a 36 year old in the sport.
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Post by: Russell Bell on September 25, 2013, 10:26:22 PM
I've never heard of this guy. Arum you say? No. Never in the 15 years that I've been watching Boxing religiously, have I heard of Bob Arum. Not even in the years prior where I watched Boxing with my dad, had I heard of such a person. I unfortunately, do not feel up to the challenge to punch in the name Bob Arum to my Googler and gather information on him. Please, Russell Bell, educate me on Bob Arum.

Well, your thinly veiled sarcasm reveals your thinly veiled ignorance my friend.

I'll take that "response" as you saying "yes I know of Bob Arum but I truly do not understand his role in keeping the Pacquio Mayweather fight from happening".
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Post by: whoisthis on September 26, 2013, 07:24:21 AM
It was thinly veiled, it was full on sarcasm. It was more of a ridiculous answer for a ridiculous question.

What Boxing fan out there isn't aware of Arum's issues with negotiating? I remember when GBP offered Arum and Donaire a fight with Mares. GBP released the Contract to show that Arum, Donaire and his camp were dodging the fight.

I've never once said that Floyd is the only guilty party. Simply, that he is ducking Manny. Everything Floyd does and says has a purpose. For him, the fight starts way before the Contract is signed.

He's offered Manny to take a 40% split of the fight, whereas he takes 60%. He's offered Manny a flat 40 Mil. Now, he's offering Manny to sign with him for the fight to be made. See, ignorance is seeing that as negotiating. Negotiations get better over time, not worse.

Manny offered a 45/55 split where Mayweather gets 55. Then he accepted the 60/40 split with Floyd and that's when Floyd introduced the Flat fee. Is that really negotiating? If it is, you would be hands down the worst salesman ever.