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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: WestWestYA on October 23, 2013, 10:46:16 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHzsYMzG2mw
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Good to see that Goldie Loc is a bit more accepting of the past and willing to put it behind them. That being said...
It's their own fault if they got a shitty deal, and they should've handled the business aspect first before signing anything. That album came out in 2000 or 2001, so by that time, they definitely weren't little kids in the rap game who were excited to see a few thousand dollars. At the same time, while they contributed, neither Tray Deee nor Goldie Loc were the driving force of the album (it was no accident that the official artist name was "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz," which got the album placed under Snoop Dogg at stores, which people would recognize), and they likely didn't have to invest as much as Snoop did, who I believe was an executive producer and also pushing the Dogghouse Records label and probably covering a portion of the overhead costs.
But if Snoop withheld money from them, that's a different story.
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Snoops a bitch and everyone who came up through the camp got held back by him
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Interesting I remember Tray Dee said he would never fuck with Goldie again.
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Good to see that Goldie Loc is a bit more accepting of the past and willing to put it behind them. That being said...
It's their own fault if they got a shitty deal, and they should've handled the business aspect first before signing anything. That album came out in 2000 or 2001, so by that time, they definitely weren't little kids in the rap game who were excited to see a few thousand dollars. At the same time, while they contributed, neither Tray Deee nor Goldie Loc were the driving force of the album (it was no accident that the official artist name was "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz," which got the album placed under Snoop Dogg at stores, which people would recognize), and they likely didn't have to invest as much as Snoop did, who I believe was an executive producer and also pushing the Dogghouse Records label and probably covering a portion of the overhead costs.
But if Snoop withheld money from them, that's a different story.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHzsYMzG2mw
Snoop also used his name to put Loc and Dee and albums with BIG NAME westcoast producers/artists which sold millions of copies, when he could have used his time to push forward anyone else...... some ppl never grateful for ish, you get big-headed and think u da ish...
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and if Goldie was being "exploited" why the hell did he stick around to do Warzone etc...??? makes no sense
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Snoops a bitch and everyone who came up through the camp got held back by him
ur judgement on rap music and rappers in general is good only for educational purposes
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and if Goldie was being "exploited" why the hell did he stick around to do Warzone etc...??? makes no sense
he just mad at snoop cuz this flopped:
http://www.youtube.com/v/19zD2LxY0oM
he was fuckin wit snoop just recently...lol smh
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Good to see that Goldie Loc is a bit more accepting of the past and willing to put it behind them. That being said...
It's their own fault if they got a shitty deal, and they should've handled the business aspect first before signing anything. That album came out in 2000 or 2001, so by that time, they definitely weren't little kids in the rap game who were excited to see a few thousand dollars. At the same time, while they contributed, neither Tray Deee nor Goldie Loc were the driving force of the album (it was no accident that the official artist name was "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz," which got the album placed under Snoop Dogg at stores, which people would recognize), and they likely didn't have to invest as much as Snoop did, who I believe was an executive producer and also pushing the Dogghouse Records label and probably covering a portion of the overhead costs.
But if Snoop withheld money from them, that's a different story.
All very good points
My only issue is I really wish Snoop would've released more projects from other artist. But at the time Snoop was also looking to get his own career on track after the Death Row departure / being written-off by the industry after that horrible No Limit debut.
If only Snoop had the business mind of 50 Cent he would've released solo projects from Tray Deee, Butch Cassidy, and Kokane.
Btw, wth ever happened to Goldie Loc as a producer? Did he just buy a couple tracks and put his name on them?
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Snoops a bitch and everyone who came up through the camp got held back by him
ur judgement on rap music and rappers in general is good only for educational purposes
History says otherwise
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Snoops a bitch and everyone who came up through the camp got held back by him
ur judgement on rap music and rappers in general is good only for educational purposes
History says otherwise
nope NIKCC is 100% right
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Good to see that Goldie Loc is a bit more accepting of the past and willing to put it behind them. That being said...
It's their own fault if they got a shitty deal, and they should've handled the business aspect first before signing anything. That album came out in 2000 or 2001, so by that time, they definitely weren't little kids in the rap game who were excited to see a few thousand dollars. At the same time, while they contributed, neither Tray Deee nor Goldie Loc were the driving force of the album (it was no accident that the official artist name was "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz," which got the album placed under Snoop Dogg at stores, which people would recognize), and they likely didn't have to invest as much as Snoop did, who I believe was an executive producer and also pushing the Dogghouse Records label and probably covering a portion of the overhead costs.
But if Snoop withheld money from them, that's a different story.
that's an intelligent post and I agree with most of it, but Tray Deee and Goldie put in most of the work on that album, and they should have been compensated accordingly. But you're spot on on their responsibility as far as signing shitty deals is concerned and that if it wasn't for the album being advertised as "snoop dogg presents" they would have never gone even gold.
by the way in 2000 Goldie Loc was a rookie in the game, he was like 22 and had no experience in the rap game except for his "20 minutes" track on Snoop's No Limit Top Dogg. Tray Deee is a complete different ball game, though.
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i bet that 1% is still better than what they were making selling dime rocks and holding up liquor stores for a cpl hundred bucks, not to mention all the parties they got to go to and bitches they fucked
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I'm happy to hear Goldie Loc has been talkin' with Tray Deee and they squashed their beef, but it's messed up that they got fucked over like that. I don't think that their relationship with Snoop will be the same it was back in the day. Tray Deee been down with Snoop since 1994 and from what i've read and heard, he always had his back. When people from Death Row was tryin' to get at Snoop at The Source Awards in 2000, Tray Deee was knockin' out people while Snoop was runnin' scared.
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and if Goldie was being "exploited" why the hell did he stick around to do Warzone etc...??? makes no sense
he just mad at snoop cuz this flopped:
http://www.youtube.com/v/19zD2LxY0oM
he was fuckin wit snoop just recently...lol smh
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
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Snoops a bitch and everyone who came up through the camp got held back by him
But at the same time, Snoop isn't as business-minded as some of the other heads and generally wasn't willing to yield the stage to other people at any point in his career, really... which is a huge flaw if you're going to be the head of a label and eventually scouting talent and trying to turn them into something profitable. However, I can't blame him too much, when you look at who his examples where when coming up. First, you have Suge, who was fucking over people financially and was too unwilling to leave street shit behind. Second, you have Dre, who was able to recruit a lot of talented artists to his label, but for whatever reason, he didn't get around to putting out albums for most of them, let alone his own follow-up, fourteen years later and counting. Third, you have Master P, who did the opposite, and put out albums for everyone, which was clever at first (since the marketing for all of the future projects was done within their own album inserts), but then the hip-hop market was oversaturated with No Limit releases, and it wasn't helped by Master P trying to do No Limit everything else (i.e. movies, sports agency, clothing, toys, 1-900 line).
My only issue is I really wish Snoop would've released more projects from other artist. But at the time Snoop was also looking to get his own career on track after the Death Row departure / being written-off by the industry after that horrible No Limit debut.
If only Snoop had the business mind of 50 Cent he would've released solo projects from Tray Deee, Butch Cassidy, and Kokane.
Snoop was already getting his career back on track, as No Limit Top Dogg was a solid release (and came before Tha Eastsidaz album dropped), and Tha Last Meal was also decent. On track or not on track, he's Snoop -- he has enough name recognition to make profitable solo albums, and ironically, out of those three No Limit albums, which one sold the most? The garbage one.
He did try to put out some other albums though... both Eastsidaz albums were steps toward that, and then there was that Dogghouse Allstars compilation or whatever it was called. I bought it, but I really only liked Dogghouse America. But unfortunately, we didn't see any non-Snoop albums outside of Doggy's Angels, and even that one is kind of borderline since they still somewhat relied on the "Doggy" name... and I'd assume that the girls didn't pick that. Puffy is an attention whore, but despite being all in the videos and all on the records (like Suge said), he wasn't branding people as an extension of him. It was 112 and Dream, not Puffy's Boys and Puffy's Girls.
But even at the height of over-the-counter music purchases, it would've been hard to get people like Tray Deee, Butch Cassidy and Kokane to be successful. I could probably fuck with a whole Tray Deee album, but an album of just Butch Cassidy or Kokane would get boring really fast, unless it were plastered with rappers' verses on each track... and at that point, it's not so much their album.
that's an intelligent post and I agree with most of it, but Tray Deee and Goldie put in most of the work on that album, and they should have been compensated accordingly. But you're spot on on their responsibility as far as signing shitty deals is concerned and that if it wasn't for the album being advertised as "snoop dogg presents" they would have never gone even gold.
by the way in 2000 Goldie Loc was a rookie in the game, he was like 22 and had no experience in the rap game except for his "20 minutes" track on Snoop's No Limit Top Dogg. Tray Deee is a complete different ball game, though.
But at that point, that was when a lot of rappers were finally becoming aware of what a good or bad contract looks like, relative to where they are in their career. You said it yourself -- Goldie Loc was fairly new to the game as far as being an actual recording artist that puts out an album (rather than just contributing to one song off of one album), and no one new without a shitload of hype is going to get a bunch of points right off the bat, especially when it's a group album and the artist money already has to be split into three ways anyway, instead of just one.
I'm happy to hear Goldie Loc has been talkin' with Tray Deee and they squashed their beef, but it's messed up that they got fucked over like that. I don't think that their relationship with Snoop will be the same it was back in the day. Tray Deee been down with Snoop since 1994 and from what i've read and heard, he always had his back. When people from Death Row was tryin' to get at Snoop at The Source Awards in 2000, Tray Deee was knockin' out people while Snoop was runnin' scared.
I remember reading an article in one of the magazines (probably The Source) about Eastsidaz when the album dropped, and they were talking about Tray Deee's rep and saying something about how he was in the frontlines in the '80s when stuff was really going down. I remember him talking about jail and pointing at certain objects in the room (I think he said a DVD case and maybe a soda can) and saying how he could turn it into a spear, which at the time was funny to me at first, until I learned about all that stuff, like inmates making shanks from deodorant.
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Puffy is an attention whore, but despite being all in the videos and all on the records (like Suge said), he wasn't branding people as an extension of him. It was 112 and Dream, not Puffy's Boys and Puffy's Girls.
well there was Diddy Dirty Money
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Snoop comes from the Jerry Heller family tree of running a label. I'm not surprised.
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well there was Diddy Dirty Money
But Puff was at least in that group though, wasn't he?
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well Snoop was a part of Tha Eastsidaz as well, he just wasn't rapping on all their songs, but he was still a member of the group, otherwise he would have been listed as "featuring Snoop Dogg" on each song he rapped on like he was on Doggy's Angels.
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Snoops a bitch and everyone who came up through the camp got held back by him
what were they doing before snoop put any of em on
once snoop taught any of them how to walk
they should have got out there and got it on their own.
snoop push them more than he held them back
nigga got them movies, national recognition 1% better than what they had prior to everything else.these niggas would still be in the hood, snoop had these clowns everywhere.
They contract fucked up,u a man go talk to him,dont like it, start ya own shit up or get with niggas u befriended in the industry.
alot of these niggas dont wanna put in work, quik put suga free on, suga free got out and got his with and without quik. outkast put killer mike in the game, killer mike got out n got his
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Good to see that Goldie Loc is a bit more accepting of the past and willing to put it behind them. That being said...
It's their own fault if they got a shitty deal, and they should've handled the business aspect first before signing anything. That album came out in 2000 or 2001, so by that time, they definitely weren't little kids in the rap game who were excited to see a few thousand dollars. At the same time, while they contributed, neither Tray Deee nor Goldie Loc were the driving force of the album (it was no accident that the official artist name was "Snoop Dogg Presents Tha Eastsidaz," which got the album placed under Snoop Dogg at stores, which people would recognize), and they likely didn't have to invest as much as Snoop did, who I believe was an executive producer and also pushing the Dogghouse Records label and probably covering a portion of the overhead costs.
But if Snoop withheld money from them, that's a different story.
that's an intelligent post and I agree with most of it, but Tray Deee and Goldie put in most of the work on that album, and they should have been compensated accordingly. But you're spot on on their responsibility as far as signing shitty deals is concerned and that if it wasn't for the album being advertised as "snoop dogg presents" they would have never gone even gold.
by the way in 2000 Goldie Loc was a rookie in the game, he was like 22 and had no experience in the rap game except for his "20 minutes" track on Snoop's No Limit Top Dogg. Tray Deee is a complete different ball game, though.
rule number 2 in the industry dont trust nobody that goes for your own blood or bestfriend.
Sit back and look at snoop's enitre career from day 1
Warren G gave 213 (snoop warren n nate) to his step brother..
warren get put on skits efil4zaggin and the chronic vs gettin the treatment snoop, daz,kurupt,rage got, u would think warren would be rappin on just as many songs as snoop
snoop did get warren 1nce on each album on the row then again on top dogg
snoop bigger, he should have been pushin the 213 issue
dre shake the row, snoop on a new label, warren has yet to produce a snoop album, side projects yeah, but 22yrs in the game has yet to let warren produce one song for his album
then the biggest slap to all the fans faces was the 213 album, warren built his own ship with no hand outs and went gold n platinum as a mc/producer and he has 0 production the group album.
Nate gone so that idea is dead now.
hell atleast quik let kk eat good off 6 of the 8 albums he has put out, and produced the bulk of kk's songs thru-out his careerand quik is bi-polar as fuck
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Man, this is a funny-ass interview....Goldie Loc says he's learning the business side of the game, then at the end of the interview he gives out his E-MAIL ADDRESS!? What part of the game is that?
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Man, this is a funny-ass interview....Goldie Loc says he's learning the business side of the game, then at the end of the interview he gives out his E-MAIL ADDRESS!? What part of the game is that?
whats wrong wit that? he tryna stack chips on features
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The interviewer (who is involved a lot in the AHAT battle rap league) specifically told him to announce his Facebook/Instagram/Twitter, which is somewhat the norm these days.
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Snoops a bitch and everyone who came up through the camp got held back by him
maybe snoop could have did a lil more on promotion but ppl are expecting a cadet to act like a sergeant. remember for snoops first three years he was to scared to make eye contact with the camera he almost always have been dependent on other ppls moves to make himself successful
so with that kind of mindset ppl expecting snoop to be this business man were stupid for even thinking that would materialize this guy smokes pounds a month im surprised he can even remember his own sons names let alone his own lyrics...but i digress.
snoop is NOT and has never been a BOSS.
maybe the boss of his family but he cant run no fucking label or manage talent. none of them deathrow or NWA niggas can....not even dr dre. if you dont think emininems success is probably 80 percent reliant on jimmy iovene coordinating everyones moves then i dunno.... but with that said it reminds me of ice cube...everyone bitches because he couldnt launch kdee and lynch mobb and all them into the stratsophere like mack 10 took off...mack 10 has his own hustle and for a while booked his own shows and even opened his own budgets for albums etc. if cubes and snoops artists had that hunger to do better rather then wait on it like they deserved it they would be better off right now. its funny how they all cried about being fucked around by eazy e and jerry heller but then they all went on to dick their artists around.
monkey see monkey do.
all these niggas waiting for a chronic reuinion. like dre aint got better shit to do then make an album to feed all his friends that took him forgranted back in the day.
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Good to hear Goldie will fuck with Tray Deee when he's out so January 2014 we'll see!
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snoops been name dropping tray dee alot as of recently.
he got a shout on on the new faden away song with dam funk
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Snoops a bitch and everyone who came up through the camp got held back by him
maybe snoop could have did a lil more on promotion but ppl are expecting a cadet to act like a sergeant. remember for snoops first three years he was to scared to make eye contact with the camera he almost always have been dependent on other ppls moves to make himself successful
so with that kind of mindset ppl expecting snoop to be this business man were stupid for even thinking that would materialize this guy smokes pounds a month im surprised he can even remember his own sons names let alone his own lyrics...but i digress.
snoop is NOT and has never been a BOSS.
maybe the boss of his family but he cant run no fucking label or manage talent. none of them deathrow or NWA niggas can....not even dr dre. if you dont think emininems success is probably 80 percent reliant on jimmy iovene coordinating everyones moves then i dunno.... but with that said it reminds me of ice cube...everyone bitches because he couldnt launch kdee and lynch mobb and all them into the stratsophere like mack 10 took off...mack 10 has his own hustle and for a while booked his own shows and even opened his own budgets for albums etc. if cubes and snoops artists had that hunger to do better rather then wait on it like they deserved it they would be better off right now. its funny how they all cried about being fucked around by eazy e and jerry heller but then they all went on to dick their artists around.
monkey see monkey do.
all these niggas waiting for a chronic reuinion. like dre aint got better shit to do then make an album to feed all his friends that took him forgranted back in the day.
This is all very true. You can't expect to be launched into the game by somebody who didn't launch themselves - That's backwards. They don't know how to grind.
The other end of the spectrum is what 50 did - Spoonfeeding his artists hits, hooks, styles, money and the rest.
Look where that got him. In this game if someone gives you a little something be prepared to take it further ON YOUR OWN BACK, Pac got from the Humpty Dance to Makaveli and these fools complaining that they're back in the hood when Snoop gave em multiplat exposure...
Sheesh.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cjQ_Bj7vdsw/TjM4dFa6Q0I/AAAAAAAAIgI/J_qfuxVUuZ4/s1600/Playmobil%2BFigures%2BSeries%2B1%2B%25282%2529.JPG)
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Snoops a bitch and everyone who came up through the camp got held back by him
maybe snoop could have did a lil more on promotion but ppl are expecting a cadet to act like a sergeant. remember for snoops first three years he was to scared to make eye contact with the camera he almost always have been dependent on other ppls moves to make himself successful
so with that kind of mindset ppl expecting snoop to be this business man were stupid for even thinking that would materialize this guy smokes pounds a month im surprised he can even remember his own sons names let alone his own lyrics...but i digress.
snoop is NOT and has never been a BOSS.
maybe the boss of his family but he cant run no fucking label or manage talent. none of them deathrow or NWA niggas can....not even dr dre. if you dont think emininems success is probably 80 percent reliant on jimmy iovene coordinating everyones moves then i dunno.... but with that said it reminds me of ice cube...everyone bitches because he couldnt launch kdee and lynch mobb and all them into the stratsophere like mack 10 took off...mack 10 has his own hustle and for a while booked his own shows and even opened his own budgets for albums etc. if cubes and snoops artists had that hunger to do better rather then wait on it like they deserved it they would be better off right now. its funny how they all cried about being fucked around by eazy e and jerry heller but then they all went on to dick their artists around.
monkey see monkey do.
all these niggas waiting for a chronic reuinion. like dre aint got better shit to do then make an album to feed all his friends that took him forgranted back in the day.
This is all very true. You can't expect to be launched into the game by somebody who didn't launch themselves - That's backwards. They don't know how to grind.
The other end of the spectrum is what 50 did - Spoonfeeding his artists hits, hooks, styles, money and the rest.
Look where that got him. In this game if someone gives you a little something be prepared to take it further ON YOUR OWN BACK, Pac got from the Humpty Dance to Makaveli and these fools complaining that they're back in the hood when Snoop gave em multiplat exposure...
Sheesh.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cjQ_Bj7vdsw/TjM4dFa6Q0I/AAAAAAAAIgI/J_qfuxVUuZ4/s1600/Playmobil%2BFigures%2BSeries%2B1%2B%25282%2529.JPG)
chuuuuuch
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I just think that the rap game is kind of like basketball, in terms of success stories breeding other success stories from the ground up. Everyone who made it big learned from someone else who hadn't yet made it big on their own. (While Dre did foster a lot of multi-platinum success with people like Snoop, Eminem and 50, he himself wasn't really what I would consider an artist, with him being more of a producer and less of a solo act, with as few albums as he's put out, so the conflict wasn't there.)
In basketball, most coaches, especially the ones who oversee teams with rings, weren't all that great when they were playing ball themselves. Yet we see very few greats in coaching capacities, and the ones who do try don't end up replicating the success that they had as players themselves. Isiah Thomas had two rings, but he couldn't coach a team past the first round of the playoffs, and eventually his team missed them his last two years as a coach. On the flipside, someone like Phil Jackson hardly had an NBA career worth talking about.
In hip-hop, if you come up on someone's label and they're still an active artist, then you're going to compete with them, and it's unlikely that they will make many sacrifices for you when it causes them to miss out on something, or even get them to put the same kind of support behind your project that they inject into their own. Very rarely do successful acts make huge successes under them while they're active, with few exceptions. I don't really count Jay-Z, since neither Memphis Bleek nor Beanie Sigel were huge, and while Kanye was a success, Jay didn't even want to sign him at first since he wasn't street, and Kanye was very self-reliant and was making his own beats and shit, so he didn't need to beg Jay to hook him up with Timbaland in order for him to have a radio single. But I have to give credit to Lil Wayne, dude has overseen Drake and Nicki... not saying they would've been nothing without him, but it happened on his watch, and he (and Birdman) certainly gave them their due attention and concentration.
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Snoop also used his name to put Loc and Dee and albums with BIG NAME westcoast producers/artists which sold millions of copies, when he could have used his time to push forward anyone else...... some ppl never grateful for ish, you get big-headed and think u da ish...
At least someone is smart enough to see this for what it is. I don't know why everyone is taking Tray Dee and Goldie Loc's side on this. After all Snoop has done for the West Coast and as big of fans as we are of the West Coast we should always support Snoop.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Eastsidaz. I loved both those albums and all the projects that spawned from the Eastsidaz. I've also been a long time fan of Tray Dee, one of his biggest fans. But I have a really hard time believing that Snoop would fuck over Tray Dee and Goldie Loc. I mean... it's not like the Eastsidaz sold billionz of albums. They struggled to go platinum, Snoop invested a lot of money, time and energy into the project. And he had to put his name on the album just to get it noticed and sold in the record stores. So all that being said I don't think he owes them any more than he gave them.
Especially not Goldie Loc!! Not to diss or anything but he was the weakest link in the Eastsidaz, and Goldie Loc has done zero without Snoop. At least Tray Dee has made a little noise on his own and even done a lot to assist Snoop's career from Murder Was the Case, to Snoop's second album, LBC Crew and so on... but even Tray Dee should be extremely appreciative to Snoop
As much as we love Tray Dee he had accomplished very little without Snoop. I think he had a chance with Def Jam back in the day. I like what he did on a couple of their soundtracks with "Droppin Bombz" with Sentrelle and "Way 2 Crazy" with Daz. But unfortunately he's never been able to put together a great album on his own. His highest achievement is that first Eastsidaz album, and he couldn't have done that without Snoop being the driving force.
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No offence to Goldie but I ain't trying to here him anymore. Tray dee needs to do a full album with Battlecat.
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Especially not Goldie Loc!! Not to diss or anything but he was the weakest link in the Eastsidaz, and Goldie Loc has done zero without Snoop. At least Tray Dee has made a little noise on his own and even done a lot to assist Snoop's career from Murder Was the Case, to Snoop's second album, LBC Crew and so on... but even Tray Dee should be extremely appreciative to Snoop
As much as we love Tray Dee he had accomplished very little without Snoop. I think he had a chance with Def Jam back in the day. I like what he did on a couple of their soundtracks with "Droppin Bombz" with Sentrelle and "Way 2 Crazy" with Daz. But unfortunately he's never been able to put together a great album on his own. His highest achievement is that first Eastsidaz album, and he couldn't have done that without Snoop being the driving force.
tray deee's general's list was good, and so was Goldie Loc's songs that were supposed to come out under DPG Recordz. but as I said just because Snoop has done a lot for them doesn't give him the right to fuck them over financially. now the way they handled their issues can be criticized and I agree that they should have taken advantage of the publicity and the exposure tha eastsidaz gave them but Snoop did them wrong in the end.
btw Tray Deee wasn't signed on Def Jam, but on Sony Music. It's too bad he got incarcerated cause his IV Life Records roster with DJ Slip seemed promising and he somewhat had some clout in the industry.
all these guys prime is long gone though, Goldie wasn't anything special to begin with, i was surprised by the quality of the tracks which leaked in 02 (I'm a lowrider with Dove Shack, Money, Work Fa Me) but dude is irrelevant nowadays, pushin 30+, with no real career. tray deee is like 48 or somethin, while he's very proficient as a rapper, i'm not expecting much nowadays.
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if cubes and snoops artists had that hunger to do better rather then wait on it like they deserved it they would be better off right now.
money
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I wouldn't put Dre and Snoop in the same category. Dre's strength is in building artists and it's generally an advantage to be under him in the right circumstances but he isn't a strong business mind. Snoop is the NAME on his label and any artist that goes through there is going to have compete with him on an "artist" level and that ultimately ends up making for sloppy business. It's similar with 50 Cent but back before he saw shit for what it was, that was a great place to go. I think taking sides in the Snoop vs. Eastsidaz business discrepancy is pointless without knowing the details.
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Its gotta suck if they weren't paid what they were due but, as was kind of mentioned, imagine all the parties and shit they would've been at, the sort of things that they would have been attending. i would assume that they would have had fuck loads of travel expenses and accommodation and top shelf alcohol, drugs, women, clothing, fancy food, etc all paid for.
They would've been going on massive tours all over.
So if they were getting that all expenses paid and V.I.P and having the time of their lives, thats gotta count for something?
But, the money they earnt should've been theirs to spend how they please by choice or to save it.
But yeah i guess we dont really know and i didn't even watch the video lol. They must still get royalties?
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by the way in 2000 Goldie Loc was a rookie in the game, he was like 22 and had no experience in the rap game except for his "20 minutes" track on Snoop's No Limit Top Dogg. Tray Deee is a complete different ball game, though.
he was 20 in 2000 (born in 1980)
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Interesting I remember Tray Dee said he would never fuck with Goldie again.
this.
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Interesting I remember Tray Dee said he would never fuck with Goldie again.
this.
just like every rapper who's had beef only 2 reconcile a couple years later