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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite on November 03, 2013, 01:10:59 AM
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I remember back in the day before the advent of internet forums, like 94 and 95 my friends and I debating who we liked more, Daz or Kurupt. And back then we didn't even think of Daz as a producer but it was Daz as a rapper. I think headz want to downplay Daz skills on the mic just because he was a producer. Like its not uncommon to hear Kurupt mentioned as one of the best by why not Daz? He as toe to toe with Kurupt and on some tracks Daz would shine more and vice versa. So how come Daz is never mentioned as top 10?
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I always liked Daz's voice and flow especially in the Deathrow days
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I remember back in the day before the advent of internet forums, like 94 and 95 my friends and I debating who we liked more, Daz or Kurupt. And back then we didn't even think of Daz as a producer but it was Daz as a rapper. I think headz want to downplay Daz skills on the mic just because he was a producer. Like its not uncommon to hear Kurupt mentioned as one of the best by why not Daz? He as toe to toe with Kurupt and on some tracks Daz would shine more and vice versa. So how come Daz is never mentioned as top 10?
Top 5 Dead & Alive in Gangsta Rap.
Daz is a beast, his flow is one of kind.
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Daz have def got a good flow. One of my fave rappers but i dunno about top 10. depends on what you consider is more important, voice, flow, lyrics/subject matter/originality, etc.
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daz is the shit
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Daz is good at what he does, but not top ten
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"in actuallity they faced with technicality." ::)
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"this is the life i lead" one of the best albums ever 8)
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He was a good gangsta rapper once. Nice flow indeed. But if people say Kurupt fell off lyrically...
I think headz want to downplay Daz skills on the mic just because he was a producer.
No, you're just a fanboy.
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"in actuallity they faced with technicality." ::)
LOL. Daz is a horrible rapper, there's no doubt about it. The reason he is so bad is that he is one of the most incoherent rappers ever to touch the mic. Even on the Daz & WC album, which is pretty good, Daz comes off as an idiot next to WC. On "Time Will Prevail," WC gives a tribute to his dead homie and Daz just strings together nonsense.
"In actuality they faced with technicality" - a good quote illustrating that Daz was rhyming meaningless polysyllabic words well before Kurupt. This line seems to foreshadow Kurupt's "tyrranical animal pterodactyl" rhyming.
But the real sign that Daz is a wack rapper: how many times has he rhymed D-A-Z with D-P-G or D-P-G-C or 4-L-I-F-E or K-U-R-U-P-T?
It's like when Crooked dissed Snoop: "foshizzle my nizzle fosheezy nephew - damn that's the nigga's first verse and his next two." How many Daz songs from circa 2000 are just him rhyming his name with his set?
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Daz is good at what he does, but not top ten
or 20...
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LMAO daz had kurupt writing his best rhymes and daz is a generic ass gangster rapper. lol @ top 10 when he's not even top 100
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lol. this is mad funny ;D
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i'm a fan of daz, i prefer him over Kurupt. but let's be real in terms of rapping skills and lyrical ability (focusing strictly on the form and not the content), he's not even in the top 10 in the west, shit i can make a list on the spot of 10 easily better rappers from all around the states. i like daz's flow and style and all but all he got his struggle bars, he was kinda cool in the 90's as a novelty but even then, when he had his best verses (dogg food, aeom), he wasn't even writing his lyrics, Snoop & Kurupt wrote most of his raps at the time. i do like his introspective and story telling verses ala only for u, baby mama drama, regretz, my mama, do you know, second to none, reality, i don't like to dream about gettin pain but in terms of lyrics as MOBNigga06 said, he's pretty much the end of the list especially since after This Is The Life I Lead. but hey if he's in your top 10 I can respect that, just like it's cool to have a personal favorite athlete even if he doesn't rank among the goats, Daz will never rank among the GOAT rappers.
West :
Xzibit
Ice Cube
Tray Deee
Kam
King Tee
Ras Kass
Crooked I
MC Ren
E-40
Spice 1
Celly Cel
WC
Kurupt
Mac Dre
Yukmouth
Rappin' Ron
Ant Banks
Goldy
San Quinn
Mac Mall
C-Bo
East :
Nas
Guru
Rakim
Black Thought
Biggie
Big Pun
Big L
AZ
Method Man
Raekwon
Redman
Treach
Jadakiss
Jeru the Damaja
Afu-Ra
DMX
Q-Tip
Buckshot
Joey Badass
Midwest :
Eminem
Krayzie Bone
Tech N9ne
Common
Twista
Kanye West
Royce
Bizzy Bone
MC Breed
South :
André 3000 & Big Boi
Scarface
Big Mike
8Ball & MJG
Willie D
Bun B
Ludacris
Big Mello
C-Murder
T.I.
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Kool G Rap doesn't make your list?
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he does but that's not an exhaustive list, just a sample
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I always thought Daz killed it on "Got My Mind Made Up"...he went toe to toe with some of the biggest names at the time but didn't get embarrassed
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I always thought Daz killed it on "Got My Mind Made Up"...he went toe to toe with some of the biggest names at the time but didn't get embarrassed
Definitely held his own but did he write his shit?
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I always thought Daz killed it on "Got My Mind Made Up"...he went toe to toe with some of the biggest names at the time but didn't get embarrassed
i liked his verse but it's short and his voice is subdued a little bit, it's like his verse doesn't fit the rest of the song, and in my opinion Kurupt absolutely merked the song and the other three 's verse were also superior to Daz's verse. but that's among my favorite daz verse, with his verses on Don't Stop with Nas, and most of his stuff on Dogg Food, I'll Do It, etc.
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I always thought Daz killed it on "Got My Mind Made Up"...he went toe to toe with some of the biggest names at the time but didn't get embarrassed
are you kidding me? he was quiet as a church mouse when rapping that verse and the other 4 shitted on him
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lil b resurrected west coast
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lol. this is mad funny ;D
This thread reminds me of the time that someone posted the claim that Prince Ital Joe is one of the greatest singers of all time.
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I would say 100% in the top 10 west coast producers but as an MC? no way lol funny thread though 8)
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I would say 100% in the top 10 west coast producers but as an MC? no way lol funny thread though 8)
not even a top ten producer and thats assuming (falsely) that he did his own shit.
u got jinx, warren, quik, pooh, dre, blaqtoven, soopafly, hutch, yella, dj slip and everyone that did cmw projects rick rock sam bostic mike mosely tone capone...i could go on and on and on
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Maybe he squeezes in on number 10 if it was a all west list but overall absolutely NOT!
He's one of my favorite rappers. Just some of his albums are hit or miss in my books....
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I would say 100% in the top 10 west coast producers but as an MC? no way lol funny thread though 8)
not even a top ten producer and thats assuming (falsely) that he did his own shit.
u got jinx, warren, quik, pooh, dre, blaqtoven, soopafly, hutch, yella, dj slip and everyone that did cmw projects rick rock sam bostic mike mosely tone capone...i could go on and on and on
I can say I enjoy the overall sound of most of those people you named as opposed to Daz but I guess I'm going off catalog here when I say he's top 10, but like you said there's always speculations as to what Daz did/didn't do
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This is crazy. Like dude before me said you can go through individual coasts and name MC after MC that rap circles around Daz. Not even close.
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I always thought Daz killed it on "Got My Mind Made Up"...he went toe to toe with some of the biggest names at the time but didn't get embarrassed
What? I can't even recite that verse and ive heard that song over 10,000 times and still don't know wtf he's saying.
Im a huge daz fan but that's gotta be one of his weakest verses if I can't make out what tha fuck he's saying.
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Daz has rapped on a few great rap songs but that doesn´t make him a great rapper , lol . gtfo with that shit
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Is threat a fuccin jokk??? How cant u peeple talked so much smake about a legion in hip hop!!! Dat negra daz refolusionised gangsta rap...if it ain't for daz dillinger than rap wouldent exits perioud!!!! He is tha reason Pac was so infamous Daz is behand tha suxcess for tha chronic and 2001!!! Not to mansion dogg fether, dogg food, doggy styles, and all the othar dogg albums!!! I cant go on and on!!! It made me sicc for to here peeple just came on here to take tha shit on someone as great as daz!! Without him lets see....no gunit...no eminem... no game..no nate dogg....no bad azz.... you see he has transpired all off these rappers and u guys just took him for granite!!!! Were I'm fram we would love to have someone like sir daz as ambassatard to our hood...and yall niggaz all life in long beach and in LA and on tha coast and u can appresiate tha treazer yall have in you're own frunt yard!! Daz is a vicetum...with his skills he shouldn't be in hall of fumes and not having to life in tha shelter!!! When is his trail for lawsuit against makers for grant thief autoV??I will be behind him 100% and any true west coast fan wont do tha same... he deserfes ti win that muney which wasnt stoled from him!
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Is threat a fuccin jokk??? How cant u peeple talked so much smake about a legion in hip hop!!! Dat negra daz refolusionised gangsta rap...if it ain't for daz dillinger than rap wouldent exits perioud!!!! He is tha reason Pac was so infamous Daz is behand tha suxcess for tha chronic and 2001!!! Not to mansion dogg fether, dogg food, doggy styles, and all the othar dogg albums!!! I cant go on and on!!! It made me sicc for to here peeple just came on here to take tha shit on someone as great as daz!! Without him lets see....no gunit...no eminem... no game..no nate dogg....no bad azz.... you see he has transpired all off these rappers and u guys just took him for granite!!!! Were I'm fram we would love to have someone like sir daz as ambassatard to our hood...and yall niggaz all life in long beach and in LA and on tha coast and u can appresiate tha treazer yall have in you're own frunt yard!! Daz is a vicetum...with his skills he shouldn't be in hall of fumes and not having to life in tha shelter!!! When is his trail for lawsuit against makers for grant thief autoV??I will be behind him 100% and any true west coast fan wont do tha same... he deserfes ti win that muney which wasnt stoled from him!
Somebody should check if this post comes from the same IP address as the posts of "bigdazdilly."
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Is threat a fuccin jokk??? How cant u peeple talked so much smake about a legion in hip hop!!! Dat negra daz refolusionised gangsta rap...if it ain't for daz dillinger than rap wouldent exits perioud!!!! He is tha reason Pac was so infamous Daz is behand tha suxcess for tha chronic and 2001!!! Not to mansion dogg fether, dogg food, doggy styles, and all the othar dogg albums!!! I cant go on and on!!! It made me sicc for to here peeple just came on here to take tha shit on someone as great as daz!! Without him lets see....no gunit...no eminem... no game..no nate dogg....no bad azz.... you see he has transpired all off these rappers and u guys just took him for granite!!!! Were I'm fram we would love to have someone like sir daz as ambassatard to our hood...and yall niggaz all life in long beach and in LA and on tha coast and u can appresiate tha treazer yall have in you're own frunt yard!! Daz is a vicetum...with his skills he shouldn't be in hall of fumes and not having to life in tha shelter!!! When is his trail for lawsuit against makers for grant thief autoV??I will be behind him 100% and any true west coast fan wont do tha same... he deserfes ti win that muney which wasnt stoled from him!
Wtf ???
Can somebody translate please,
Never mind it's probably useless shit.
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Were I'm fram we would love to have someone like sir daz as ambassatard to our hood.
with his skills he shouldn't be in hall of fumes and not having to life in tha shelter!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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;D
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Daz is dope but infinite sounds like a groupie ass dick rider
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maybe young Daz but old Daz sounds corny as fuck now, WC killed him all on the new album
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haha
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nigga said dogg feather hahahahahahahah
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maybe young Daz but old Daz sounds corny as fuck now, WC killed him all on the new album
I was talking about 90's Daz. That's why I said best ever. Of course if we were comparing top 10 of 2013 Pac wouldn't even make the list because Pac isn't alive... I'm sayin Daz is top 10 All-Time to bless the mic.
Agree or disagree, but my main argument is that why is it okay to say Kurupt is top 10 but not Daz? I mean, listen to Kurupt's first solo album vs. Daz first solo album and tell me how in the fuck Daz ain't top 10 but Kurupt is?
1. Pac
2. Nas
3. Eminem
4. Snoop
5. Xzibit
6. Daz
7. Nate Dogg
8. Andre 3000
9. Kurupt
10. Krayzie Bone
honorable mentions: Dr. Dre, Warren G, Tray Dee, Canibus, Mos Def, Sticman of Dead Prez, Talib Kweli, Damian Marley, Rass Kass, Bizzy Bone
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warren g is better than rakim? daz is better than kool g rap and Big L?
nate dogg is an R&B singer he's not even a rapper.
what a bad list.
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warren g is better than rakim? daz is better than kool g rap and Big L?
nate dogg is an R&B singer he's not even a rapper.
what a bad list.
Nate (RIP) ain't fuckin R&B... Nate is G Funk, nicca!!! And I edited Warren G and Dr. Dre out of my top 10 list just because they don't write their own rhymes.
LMAO@Nate being R&B, Nate is a genius and innovator and creates his own style of music G Funk and you just tried to disrespect the legend and reduce him to R&B?
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Like i said daz is dope but i dont think he even believes he is in the top 10
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Like i said daz is dope but i dont think he even believes he is in the top 10
don't put words in his mouth. I'm pretty sure that he would consider himself to be one of the best that ever did it (but now I'm putting words in his mouth)
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lol kurupts not a top 10 goat rapper neither...by along shot.
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sayin nate dogg is r&b is pretty funny in itself
he's a singer, not a rapper....but not an r&b singer, tho LOL
duno what kinda top 10 that is that infinite just posted, because it includes singers, but daz is definitely slept on as a rapper. i wouldnt put him top 10, but he does got that pacesque from-the-gut flow, and not many people can pull that off like he could. in fact, pac and daz seemingly use the exact same level of energy when they rap, similar cadences...klientel too
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sayin nate dogg is r&b is pretty funny in itself
he's a singer, not a rapper....but not an r&b singer, tho LOL
duno what kinda top 10 that is that infinite just posted, because it includes singers, but daz is definitely slept on as a rapper. i wouldnt put him top 10, but he does got that pacesque from-the-gut flow, and not many people can pull that off like he could. in fact, pac and daz seemingly use the exact same level of energy when they rap, similar cadences...klientel too
Nate's really in a category of his own. He may be a singer but his songs are like rap songs. When you think about the beat, and there's usually a rapper on there with him. The albums, the songs, the music all had a rap feel and definitely it wasn't R&B. It's his own style, GFUNK... where rhythm is life and life is rhythm. So fuck it, I put him on the list...
But yeah, good point about similarity between Daz and Pac
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sayin nate dogg is r&b is pretty funny in itself
he's a singer, not a rapper....but not an r&b singer, tho LOL
duno what kinda top 10 that is that infinite just posted, because it includes singers, but daz is definitely slept on as a rapper. i wouldnt put him top 10, but he does got that pacesque from-the-gut flow, and not many people can pull that off like he could. in fact, pac and daz seemingly use the exact same level of energy when they rap, similar cadences...klientel too
Nate's really in a category of his own. He may be a singer but his songs are like rap songs. When you think about the beat, and there's usually a rapper on there with him. The albums, the songs, the music all had a rap feel and definitely it wasn't R&B. It's his own style, GFUNK... where rhythm is life and life is rhythm. So fuck it, I put him on the list...
But yeah, good point about similarity between Daz and Pac
yea, he makes hip-hop soul music .. but he is a singer, so he doesnt belong on a best rapper list. in terms of favroite artists, i can see him on any1s lists, tho
same thing with damien marley, only swap hip-hop soul with hip-hop reggae
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yea, he makes hip-hop soul music .. but he is a singer, so he doesnt belong on a best rapper list. in terms of favroite artists, i can see him on any1s lists, tho
same thing with damien marley, only swap hip-hop soul with hip-hop reggae
Damian is st8 spittin on a lot of his tracks.. like check out "The Master Is Back" he's certainly dropping some shit there that can rival that of other top rap artists.... all though it is with a Reggae style, but definitely he is blurring the lines between Reggae and hip-hop, but word is the Creator of Hip-Hop Cool Herc was Jamaican or something like that and brought a style from Jamaica called "toasting" that planted the roots of hip-hop
Damian Marley spittin on "The Master Is Back"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nipMIGc5xOY
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yea, he makes hip-hop soul music .. but he is a singer, so he doesnt belong on a best rapper list. in terms of favroite artists, i can see him on any1s lists, tho
same thing with damien marley, only swap hip-hop soul with hip-hop reggae
Damian is st8 spittin on a lot of his tracks.. like check out "The Master Is Back" he's certainly dropping some shit there that can rival that of other top rap artists.... all though it is with a Reggae style, but definitely he is blurring the lines between Reggae and hip-hop, but word is the Creator of Hip-Hop Cool Herc was Jamaican or something like that and brought a style from Jamaica called "toasting" that planted the roots of hip-hop
Damian Marley spittin on "The Master Is Back"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nipMIGc5xOY
i feel ya...thats why i said hip-hop reggae
dope trac
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maybe young Daz but old Daz sounds corny as fuck now, WC killed him all on the new album
Amen.