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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: V2DHeart on January 06, 2014, 02:56:52 AM
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Just a list of movies after reading about the Star Wars role. The reason he was considered was the same reason as One Eight Seven - Due to Samuel L Jackson. Below is a list. Some you may know, some you may not, but once I remember them all, I'll edit the list, but this is some so far.
One Eight Seven
Baby Boy (Jody)
3 Strikes (Rob)
Menace II Society (Sharif)
How to Be A Player
Higher Learning (Fudge)
Woo (Tim)
Star Wars, Ep 1 (Mace Windu)
Cool Runnings
In Too Deep (Jeffrey)
His heart was always acting over music, and would have been one of the reasons he would eventually ramp down the music in favour of acting, but not entirely.
Makaveli Records would have his group Outlawz, Chelle, Nuttso etc. With 2Pac overlooking projects, featuring on albums. He had a larger audience in music, and more freedom to have a voice and opinion. This is why he was offered large roles and they probably thought that by giving him a hand in larger movies would mean less time in the studio preaching, but since he was a workaholic, never went to plan
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always thought 2pac was a pretty mediocre/average actor, never liked any of his roles (haven't seen all his movies). Bishop was too caricatural (the movie had a dope 90's vibe though), as was his character on Above the Rim.
i wonder how he would have looked in star wars lol.
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He was a very gifted actor. His "rap persona" is evidence of that. Many who knew him personally knew of his gentle heart, and who he was on record wasn't him. He played a gangster rapper very very well. Even Puffy mentioned his incredible acting ability. Forget his movie roles, these were all generic roles handed out to rappers to help sell the genre.
I don't think there was anyone in rap succeeding in securing roles that weren't based upon large non gang/hood-related movies. Even Ice T's New Jack City in the early 90's was based on violence, black gangs. Most generally do get shoehorned into one certain role (like Steven Seagal as a cop) but I believe 2Pac would have had a lot of blockbuster roles and awards under his belt. Will Smith former rapper was shoehorned into a Hip Hop TV show before his big break with Bad Boys/Independence Day, same with Ice Cube and other rappers.
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always thought 2pac was a pretty mediocre/average actor, never liked any of his roles (haven't seen all his movies). Bishop was too caricatural (the movie had a dope 90's vibe though), as was his character on Above the Rim.
i wonder how he would have looked in star wars lol.
Naw.. I think he nailed Bishop and that was one of the signature moments of his life/career, the locker room scene where he confronts Q.
I love all Pac's movies because I'm a big fan but it is kind of hard to see him as other characters like the roles he played as a cop and dope fiend in Gridlocked and Gang Related, respectively. I think he was cool in Above the Rim the MIckey Rourke movie because those roles fit him better.
He would of been really great in "Baby Boy". Snoop performed very well in that movie but that naggin ass bitch and Tyrese drug that movie into the gutter. Pac would have given it the soul it needed.
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I'm not sure Pac would have been right for Sam Jackson's role in 187. He was much too young.
always thought 2pac was a pretty mediocre/average actor, never liked any of his roles (haven't seen all his movies). Bishop was too caricatural (the movie had a dope 90's vibe though), as was his character on Above the Rim.
I think the films he did before he went to prison were quite of your standard thug roles because he won so much praise as Bishop and sort of got type-casted in that. Ironically, the two films he was dropped from (Menace, Higher Learning) would have made for pretty good roles to show a little range. He reportedly hated being Sharif because his character didn't kill anyone and Columbia pressured Singleton to drop him because his behavior was causing him to be a liability.
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i think he could have gone on to become a good actor but hes pretty mediocre in the movies hes in. hes good in juice but he basically played an eastcoast version of his rap persona
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He was a very gifted actor. His "rap persona" is evidence of that. Many who knew him personally knew of his gentle heart, and who he was on record wasn't him. He played a gangster rapper very very well. Even Puffy mentioned his incredible acting ability. Forget his movie roles, these were all generic roles handed out to rappers to help sell the genre.
I don't think there was anyone in rap succeeding in securing roles that weren't based upon large non gang/hood-related movies. Even Ice T's New Jack City in the early 90's was based on violence, black gangs. Most generally do get shoehorned into one certain role (like Steven Seagal as a cop) but I believe 2Pac would have had a lot of blockbuster roles and awards under his belt. Will Smith former rapper was shoehorned into a Hip Hop TV show before his big break with Bad Boys/Independence Day, same with Ice Cube and other rappers.
fair enough on his "rap persona" and him being gifted, but as MUHFUKKA said, not to keen on the roles he played.
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I still don't really buy the Mace Windu rumor, but I will say that I liked 2pac as an actor. I actually thought he did a nice job in Gang Related, and for reasons like that I think he coulda branched out more from the Bishop-type roles had if given the opportunity. I think that his presence, voice, charisma, etc gave him more than a lot of other rappers that tried to make the big-screen. Agreed that it's disappointing that we didn't get to see more of what he could have done.
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Training Day, He would of had a good minor role his character would of fit that movie well...
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I think people underestimate his acting abilities massively because of the restrictive roles he had played on screen, but he tricked the world into believing he was a hardcore gangster rapper. THAT is what you call good acting.
2Pac was a soft gentle human being, that "angry thug" you hear on record is all an act
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I think people underestimate his acting abilities massively because of the restrictive roles he had played on screen, but he tricked the world into believing he was a hardcore gangster rapper. THAT is what you call good acting.
2Pac was a soft gentle human being, that "angry thug" you hear on record is all an act
i dont know he was definitely angry but not violent or dangerous in real life
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i dont know he was definitely angry but not violent or dangerous in real life
He caught a few assault cases so I'd say he had a little violence behind him.
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I think people underestimate his acting abilities massively because of the restrictive roles he had played on screen, but he tricked the world into believing he was a hardcore gangster rapper. THAT is what you call good acting.
2Pac was a soft gentle human being, that "angry thug" you hear on record is all an act
i dont know he was definitely angry but not violent or dangerous in real life
he was way more violent then 90% of the rappers nowadays
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Was it really? Or was it simply forced aggression? IE; an act to further legitimize his role as a "Rap Star"?
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Violence is violence. If you catch an ass whooping from a rapper, it's still an ass whooping.
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This, IMO, is the real 2Pac.
http://www.youtube.com/v/IQtoZ2Hbn_g
I believe the entire rapper image was all an act, but a well intended one, created in order to get the black youth on side, who simply wouldn't support or get behind a guy who was "extra nice" and couldn't call women the "B" word! If his rapping image was all an act, then that makes him one hell of an actor. His passion was always acting over any other art form
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i get what you say but it wasn't all an act imo, i think peer pressure made him become how he eventually became. it wasn't a conscious and 100% wilful choice, but more of a forced choice. like "this is how i gotta be to be accepted where i live and to get where i want to get", he was ambitious and he chose to conform to achieve his ambitions. i think he became fascinated with the streets and had to prove his worth. that being said, in private life, he could be very different depending on the person and the circles, that's pretty common and that's why he was pretty comfortable with different type of crowds, cause he had frequented both side of the fences due to him going to art school and stuff. dude was an entertainer first and foremost but I think he got caught up in a double life and wanted to earn his stripes in the streets when he was grown the same way people who were loner as teenagers start living their lives in their 30's and do stuff adolescents do.
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v2dheart also refuses to believe that gucci mane ever sold any drugs
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I don't think you can just scapegoat physical actions as being just an "act". If I get into a staged fight with one of my friends, that is an act. If I legit punch somebody in the face until I injure him, that's violence. I can't judge the motivation behind it because I don't know it but I'm starting wondering about some of you.
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v2dheart also refuses to believe that gucci mane ever sold any drugs
Not at all. I don't deny that he ever sold drugs. What I was implying about Gucci Mane was that there was no way he would be allowed to run around drug dealing, gang banging, and killing people while running a profitable Hip Hop label, as if he were some Italian mob boss. No one brags about it, it's marketing to naive white kids some of which reside here and take that stuff seriously
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I think 2pac would have been great in ET.
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Maybe. But he would have been even better as "jack" in Titanic