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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Ali Tha Great on January 26, 2014, 03:23:19 AM
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Which players do you guys like so far?
I got my top 10 looking something like this...
Embiid
Parker(him and wiggins are interchangeable on any given day for me)
Wiggins
Exum(based on his highlights and scouting vids, haven't seen any actual games from him since he's from australia, but I got high hopes for this kid)
Randle
Smart
Lavine
Vonleh
Gordon
Hood
and Cauley-Stein, young and ennis are right outside the top ten.
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Wiggins is being misused in college, he still has the brightest future
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Wiggins is being misused in college, he still has the brightest future
I agree that wiggins is being misused, but it's obvious Embiid has the brightest future out of all of em...he's been playing the game since 09! dudes ceiling is hakeem.
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watch the new commish rig the draft so the LAkers get the #1 pick
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watch the new commish rig the draft so the LAkers get the #1 pick
Do you even know how the draft is conducted? How can they rig it?
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watch the new commish rig the draft so the LAkers get the #1 pick
Do you even know how the draft is conducted? How can they rig it?
the same way they rigged Lebron to Cleveland and Ewing to the Knicks...stop being so ignorant to how the NBA world works.
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Wiggins is being misused in college, he still has the brightest future
I agree that wiggins is being misused, but it's obvious Embiid has the brightest future out of all of em...he's been playing the game since 09! dudes ceiling is hakeem.
i wouldnt say it's obvious, i think wiggins has the highest ceiling if he lives up to potential. embiid is no slouch, but big-man game translates the worst to the nba nowadays. it's the number 1 bust position. not saying embiid will be a bust, but i doubt if he ever gets anywhere close to hakeem.
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watch the new commish rig the draft so the LAkers get the #1 pick
Do you even know how the draft is conducted? How can they rig it?
the same way they rigged Lebron to Cleveland and Ewing to the Knicks...stop being so ignorant to how the NBA world works.
You still didn't answer my question? How do they do the draft? How would it be rigged when each team has a representative present in the room while the draft is being done? Don't you think that mark cuban and co. would file a lawsuit towards the league if they rigged such an event? lol at you knowing "how the NBA world works" when you don't even know how the draft is conducted. The patrick ewing draft wasn't even the same as how the draft is conducted now and that one WAS rigged and the owners figured that out and they changed the draft format in 1990 to what it is today. How is lebron going to cleveland, who had the worst record and the highest chance to get the number one pick that year a rigged draft? If you're gonna bring up a year where as a conspiracy theorist(which is what you're claiming, a CONSPIRACY with no actual facts) the draft was rigged, the only years i would bring up is the d. rose and greg oden drafts, and still it's not like they had a beasting year and they got the no.1 pick, they had a 10% chance and that means 1 out of every ten years a team that doesn't have the best odds(ie the bottom 3 teams of the league) would win the lottery. If the league wanted the lakers to have a top tier player they wouldn't have vetoed the chris paul deal AND they wouldn't have constructed the new collective bargaining agreement in a way where it cripples big market teams like the lakers. I know you like to troll NIK and other laker fans cause you're a boston fan(are you still a boston fan?) and it's always been the IN thing to say that "the league favors the lakers", but actual facts show the exact opposite, that the league is in favor of small market teams and parity among all teams.
Wiggins is being misused in college, he still has the brightest future
I agree that wiggins is being misused, but it's obvious Embiid has the brightest future out of all of em...he's been playing the game since 09! dudes ceiling is hakeem.
i wouldnt say it's obvious, i think wiggins has the highest ceiling if he lives up to potential. embiid is no slouch, but big-man game translates the worst to the nba nowadays. it's the number 1 bust position. not saying embiid will be a bust, but i doubt if he ever gets anywhere close to hakeem.
How many full Kansas games have you seen this year? Wiggins has the athletic ability to be a superstar but he lacks the mentality of a superstar. He's even more passive than durant or lebron out of highschool, let alone a kobe or t-mac or even paul george. He needs to work on his handles(which is possible ala paul george) and his jump shot, which shouldn't be too hard since his form isn't THAT bad, but he needs to develop that killer instinct that I haven't seen in him which is pretty hard to develop, unless he gets drafted by the lakers where a player like kobe can take him under his wing, I doubt he'll be what people thought he would be by seeing him play against a bunch of high school kids. If he gets drafted to a team like the bucks or orlando watch him be one of the biggest busts in NBA history.
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lebron was already working out with the cavs as a senior in high school....every and anyone knew he was going to Cleveland at all costs
the team with the worst record doesn't always get the #1 pick (which is honestly pretty stupid if you ask me but that's for another day)
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lebron was already working out with the cavs as a senior in high school....every and anyone knew he was going to Cleveland at all costs
the team with the worst record doesn't always get the #1 pick (which is honestly pretty stupid if you ask me but that's for another day)
He was working out with the cavs cause he was from cleveland, whats your point? Almost all LA born and raised players or even a lot of ucla and usc players go work out at the lakers training facility in el segundo, does that mean they're gonna get drafted by the lakers? "Everyone and anyone knew he was going to cleveland at all costs"? wtf kinda statement is that? Please bring actual facts to the argument and not some shit like that. Cleveland tanked that year and had the highest percentage to win the draft and they did. I know the team with the worst record doesn't always win the lottery, thats why it's called the LOTTERY...since the new draft of 1990 only 2-3 of the teams with the worst record got the number 1 overall pic and the most number 1 overall picks went to the 3rd worst record in the league, but that doesn't mean that to get the number 1 pick you should aim for the 3rd worst record as apposed to the worst record. The worst record gets the most ping pong balls, hence the highest percentage to get the #1 pick, just because we've had 20 years of a lottery that only happens ONCE a year it doesn't mean that its a big enough sample size to base the 3rd worst record as a fact to receive the 1st overall pick, those are called anomalies.
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I think ur selling wiggins short, I haven't seen too many Kansas games but Ive seen enough of him to know he is a special player.. I don't think his lack of success is due to lack of killer instinct, like I said, I feel like that's a direct result of how he's been used in college and u will see more of the free flowing wiggins who will develop the ability to take over games once he hits the NBA
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I think ur selling wiggins short, I haven't seen too many Kansas games but Ive seen enough of him to know he is a special player.. I don't think his lack of success is due to lack of killer instinct, like I said, I feel like that's a direct result of how he's been used in college and u will see more of the free flowing wiggins who will develop the ability to take over games once he hits the NBA
Just watch one full kansas game and you'll see exactly how good Embiid is and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about with Wiggins' mentality. Dude can't even take college SF off the dribble and his passing skills aren't even close to bron or t-mac or kobe, players he was compared to while he was in highschool. With that being said i'll still take him top 3 if we get the 3rd pick but thats only because kobe can groom him to be an elite player to compliment his freakish athleticism.
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Rondo sucked in college and became an NBA all star and playoff hero
Wiggins has plenty of time to evolve
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I think you're too high on Cauley-Stein. Can't see him going before the 20th pick.
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Rondo sucked in college and became an NBA all star and playoff hero
Wiggins has plenty of time to evolve
Did you even read anything I had to say? You never seem to be able to debate sports anymore like you used to. You just bring up examples of something or someone that has nothing to do with anything. It's obvious that Wiggins isn't built from the same material as a Kobe, rondo, westbrook, etc. etc. players that are mentally tough, throwback type of players that thrive under pressure and WANT to be the best and are cocky. Wiggins doesn't have that in him, yet. He can develop it if he has the right mentor and coach once he gets to the NBA, but he won't get there if he goes to the bucks or cleveland or some crap organization. He won't be like a lebron or a kobe or a t-mac as to where they would all be where they are at now skill wise regardless of where they get drafted. I even said I would take him third for the lakers or even second depending on how jabari parker finishes out the rest of the season, because I know kobe will turn him into a beast if he takes him under his wing. So to bring up Rondo as an example has nothing to do with wiggins because even when rondo was in college you could tell he was gonna be special player because he had that mentality that he still has today. Even in his early years with three HOFers he still wanted to be the man on the team and you could tell from how he demanded respect from kg and PP and ray. Now either post your top ten players you think will go in this upcoming draft or stop saying irrelevant shit.
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I think you're too high on Cauley-Stein. Can't see him going before the 20th pick.
He'll be a Tysson Chandler 2.0 A solid piece on a championship caliber squad down the road. He won't be a franchise player like my top 6 but he'll be a Solid defensive anchor in the league.
Post your top ten, or better yet top 20, because you mentioned that you can't see him going before the 20th pick.
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Embiid, Parker & Wiggins all have hall of fame ceilings. Randle could be the next Barkley too.
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Embiid, Parker & Wiggins all have hall of fame ceilings. Randle could be the next Barkley too.
Randle could be a more polished Z-bo, I doubt we see another Charles Barkley...dude was the leading scorer on the dream team and averaged 16 boards for a season if I'm not mistaken in a time where there were bigs like david robinson, shaq, hakeem, Ewing and the likes of dennis rodman. But randle IMO is the most NBA ready out of all of em, but with the lowest ceiling also.
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Rondo sucked in college and became an NBA all star and playoff hero
Wiggins has plenty of time to evolve
Did you even read anything I had to say? You never seem to be able to debate sports anymore like you used to. You just bring up examples of something or someone that has nothing to do with anything. It's obvious that Wiggins isn't built from the same material as a Kobe, rondo, westbrook, etc. etc. players that are mentally tough, throwback type of players that thrive under pressure and WANT to be the best and are cocky. Wiggins doesn't have that in him, yet. He can develop it if he has the right mentor and coach once he gets to the NBA, but he won't get there if he goes to the bucks or cleveland or some crap organization. He won't be like a lebron or a kobe or a t-mac as to where they would all be where they are at now skill wise regardless of where they get drafted. I even said I would take him third for the lakers or even second depending on how jabari parker finishes out the rest of the season, because I know kobe will turn him into a beast if he takes him under his wing. So to bring up Rondo as an example has nothing to do with wiggins because even when rondo was in college you could tell he was gonna be special player because he had that mentality that he still has today. Even in his early years with three HOFers he still wanted to be the man on the team and you could tell from how he demanded respect from kg and PP and ray. Now either post your top ten players you think will go in this upcoming draft or stop saying irrelevant shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd3M1e7JiqM
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hack is like elano of the sports section
i do think wiggins will eventually be a star no matter where he goes... bigs usually have a much higher chance of flopping in the nba.
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hack is like elano of the sports section
LOL
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hack is like elano of the sports section
STUPID AMERICAN SHUT UP DUMB MAIMON
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I honestly haven't paid much attention to the up-and-comers this year, of course I've heard all the Wiggins hype but don't much much about the rest of them. You guys think this is the best class since 04 or what?
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yea, definitely
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Deep ass draft.
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96, 84 and 03 are probably the best Draft Classes I can think of. On paper, this Draft Class might be on those levels, but is definitely up there with 85, 87 and 98.
Teams will probably get a franchise changing player in the top 5 or so. But, teams will get an All-Star and solid contributor into the teens. Will be interesting to see how teams like Minnesota and Cleveland fuck up their picks as usual and to see other teams at the top pick for Need or "Best Available."
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I can't judge a draft class for at like 4-5 years after the draft lol.
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I can't judge a draft class for at like 4-5 years after the draft lol.
Of course. Nobody is guaranteeing this draft. Nobody can. But, when you look at the talent that is entering this draft, it's not out of the question to believe it'll possibly be a top class in NBA history.
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Without question has the potential. Gary Harris, James Young & Rodney Hood are projected to go towards the end of the lottery & all three have potential to be all-star pros.
Not to mention that if everyone picked after #5 fucking sucked but 1-5 lived up to their full potential it would be one of the great draft classes.
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Rodney Hood will be one of those picks by a San Antonio that everybody will say "what a find."
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why do you guys keep saying the top 5? I think there's at least 7-8 potential franchise players. While parker, embiid and wiggins are the consensus top 3, who do you guys think will go 4th and 5th? or just post who you think will go top ten.
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why do you guys keep saying the top 5? I think there's at least 7-8 potential franchise players. While parker, embiid and wiggins are the consensus top 3, who do you guys think will go 4th and 5th? or just post who you think will go top ten.
I don't think there's ever really more than 4 or so Franchise players in a draft.
96: AI, Allen, Kobe & Nash
84: Hakeem, Jordan, Barkley & Stockton
03: LeBron, Carmelo & Wade
Your best shot at that Franchise player is in the top 5 usually.
I think Randle is a definite top 5 pick. I'd say Marcus Smart probably rounds out the top 5
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Sccit is bi-polar. Pre-Kobe's injury... M Dogg said the Lakers need to trade for more draft picks in this draft, Sccit said fuck draft picks. Post-Kobe injury, Sccit admits this is the deepest draft in a while.
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why do you guys keep saying the top 5? I think there's at least 7-8 potential franchise players. While parker, embiid and wiggins are the consensus top 3, who do you guys think will go 4th and 5th? or just post who you think will go top ten.
I've never seen Exum play, so I won't just assume he's a franchise player.
Smart, Randle & Gordon could be franchise players, but I'd say their potentials don't see Parker, Embiid & Wiggins from the eye test. Could prove me wrong though.
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I also really have high hopes for lavine. He's like klay thompson but with freakish athletic ability. Even though I haven't seen too much of exum either, I'd take him before smart.
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Rodney Hood will be one of those picks by a San Antonio that everybody will say "what a find."
Yeah, he'll be the left handed Kawhi Leonard lol.
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Sccit is bi-polar. Pre-Kobe's injury... M Dogg said the Lakers need to trade for more draft picks in this draft, Sccit said fuck draft picks. Post-Kobe injury, Sccit admits this is the deepest draft in a while.
u just explained it yourself...POST-KOBE INJURY...thats when everything changes lol
so yea, now that it's a lost season with kobe, nash, blake, farmar, etc. being gone for the majority of the season, it's easy to say "yea, we shoulda gotten draft picks" in retrospect...think before u speak
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Sccit is bi-polar. Pre-Kobe's injury... M Dogg said the Lakers need to trade for more draft picks in this draft, Sccit said fuck draft picks. Post-Kobe injury, Sccit admits this is the deepest draft in a while.
u just explained it yourself...POST-KOBE INJURY...thats when everything changes lol
so yea, now that it's a lost season with kobe, nash, blake, farmar, etc. being gone for the majority of the season, it's easy to say "yea, we shoulda gotten draft picks" in retrospect...think before u speak
Oh, I was about draft picks pre-Kobe injury. My hope was someone else does the losing for us, so get those picks now. But looks like the Lakers are going to have to do it the hard way. Remember, the picks for Magic Johnson, James Worthy and Kobe Bryant came off trades.
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96 draft for the win...ben wallace went undrafted that year
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uppp
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The Harrison twins are staying at Kentucky. That's wild. UK probably the favorite over Duke now.
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The Harrison twins are staying at Kentucky. That's wild. UK probably the favorite over Duke now.
they still weren't good enough to beat Uconn 8)
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The Harrison twins are staying at Kentucky. That's wild. UK probably the favorite over Duke now.
they still weren't good enough to beat Uconn 8)
Got out experienced.
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^Injuries hurt too.
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^Injuries hurt too.
lol @ pointing out injuries when comparing a 7 seed to an 8 seed
Uconn was just the team of destriny, point blank.