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Ex Death Row CEO says Compton rappers are "slaves" to Interscope Records.
(http://www.bet.com/news/music/2014/02/19/suge-knight-kendrick-lamar-and-game-have-two-of-the-worst-record-deals/_jcr_content/featuredMedia/newsitemimage.newsimage.dimg/021914-music-suge-knight-game-kendrick.jpg)
Kendrick Lamar and Game have more in common than being from Compton. Both rappers are signed to Interscope Records and, according to Suge Knight's latest interview, both are locked into "two of the worst deals in the industry."
The always outspoken ex-music mogul shared his opinion on the subject of shady business deals during an appearance on The Arsenio Hall Show Tuesday (Feb. 18). "If you look at Interscope, the two guys from Compton got two of the worst deals in the industry," Knight said.
He went on to outline exactly how many benefactors get paid from Game's label deal. "What people don't realize is Universal [Music Group] is the ship, then Aftermath get they cut, then G-Unit get they cut, then the guy who really have Game signed [gets a cut] then it came to Game."
In Lamar's case, "the guy who put the deal together" gets a portion of the 26-year-old rapper's earnings in addition to Interscope and other label-related payees, Knight claimed. "In reality [it's] more slavery now than ever," he continued. "When you was a slave you like 's--t it's bad,' but it's worse when somebody makes you be a celebrity ... and you're thanking a person for like stabbing you in the back. Period."
Knight is well-versed in the area of bad business dealings. As Death Row's founder and former CEO, the 48-year-old built a reputation for intimidation tactics (like allegedly dangling Vanilla Ice over a balcony) and has watched his once profitable imprint crumble over the years. Death Row was once home to West Coast heavy hitters Tupac Shakur, Dr. Dre, Kurupt and Snoop Dogg, but by the turn of the millennium the label descended into financial ruin and was eventually auctioned off to a Canadian entertainment company in 2009.
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suge knows something about bad deals lol, given how he embezzled everyone but Dre (who could no longer be fooled) at Death Row.
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Ex Death Row CEO says Compton rappers are "slaves" to Interscope Records.
Knight is well-versed in the area of bad business dealings. As Death Row's founder and former CEO, the 48-year-old built a reputation for intimidation tactics (like allegedly dangling Vanilla Ice over a balcony) and has watched his once profitable imprint crumble over the years. Death Row was once home to West Coast heavy hitters Tupac Shakur, Dr. Dre, Kurupt and Snoop Dogg, but by the turn of the millennium the label descended into financial ruin and was eventually auctioned off to a Canadian entertainment company in 2009.
They forgot Daz at the end. LOL. Daz go pop some Xanax and relax it will be ok.
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I think he has slavery confused with prostitution. Slavery paints a more vile picture because its rich white guys and poor black artists but I think it comes down to more of a pimps and hoes thing but that to me is the entertainment industry. Major labels are going to turn your ass out for every dollar you're worth and leave you when you ain't bringing them in no more.
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Kendrick still made the Forbes rich list earning $9m in 2013
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I think Suge was just saying that about so many labels/companies being involved and all being entitled to some cut. With Game, it was G-Unit/Aftermath/Interscope and then Geffen got involved too for stuff coming out after The Documentary. And then there's still Czar Entertainment or whatever the company is called that is run by Jimmy Henchmen, who gets a piece of the action. And now he's moving to Cash Money/Universal, so who knows how the money will get split at that point. And Kendrick is still linked up with Top Dog/Aftermath/Interscope, so I bet Jay Rock is also getting a nice cut.
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Kendrick still made the Forbes rich list earning $9m in 2013
I would doubt if he actually took home clear 2 million.
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Kendrick still made the Forbes rich list earning $9m in 2013
I would doubt if he actually took home clear 2 million.
After taxes?
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I think Suge was just saying that about so many labels/companies being involved and all being entitled to some cut. With Game, it was G-Unit/Aftermath/Interscope and then Geffen got involved too for stuff coming out after The Documentary. And then there's still Czar Entertainment or whatever the company is called that is run by Jimmy Henchmen, who gets a piece of the action. And now he's moving to Cash Money/Universal, so who knows how the money will get split at that point. And Kendrick is still linked up with Top Dog/Aftermath/Interscope, so I bet Jay Rock is also getting a nice cut.
why would Jay rock get a cut ? Top Dog is owned & ran by Top Dog not Jay rock.
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I think Suge was just saying that about so many labels/companies being involved and all being entitled to some cut. With Game, it was G-Unit/Aftermath/Interscope and then Geffen got involved too for stuff coming out after The Documentary. And then there's still Czar Entertainment or whatever the company is called that is run by Jimmy Henchmen, who gets a piece of the action. And now he's moving to Cash Money/Universal, so who knows how the money will get split at that point. And Kendrick is still linked up with Top Dog/Aftermath/Interscope, so I bet Jay Rock is also getting a nice cut.
why would Jay rock get a cut ? Top Dog is owned & ran by Top Dog not Jay rock.
Jay Rock didn't start the label up but he definitely helped put them on in a major way, he was their first artist and the artist that made TDE's name ring bells so I wouldn't doubt it if he got a small portion or if Top Dog and Punch were giving him a piece of their personal checks
I mean it would make sense since dude hasn't released any new solo material in awhile and he definitely isn't headlining any shows at the moment so how else is he gonna eat lol
example: Fredo Santana has 1/4 ownership of Chief Keef's label…
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Suga Daddy knows about bad deals/stealing money from rappers 8)
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example: Fredo Santana has 1/4 ownership of Chief Keef's label…
That;s that shit I don't like!
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Suga Daddy knows about bad deals/stealing money from rappers 8)
As does Eazy, Puffy, Baby, etc. apparently
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I think Suge was just saying that about so many labels/companies being involved and all being entitled to some cut. With Game, it was G-Unit/Aftermath/Interscope and then Geffen got involved too for stuff coming out after The Documentary. And then there's still Czar Entertainment or whatever the company is called that is run by Jimmy Henchmen, who gets a piece of the action. And now he's moving to Cash Money/Universal, so who knows how the money will get split at that point. And Kendrick is still linked up with Top Dog/Aftermath/Interscope, so I bet Jay Rock is also getting a nice cut.
You forgot Game was/is? signed to JT Tha Bigga Figga. I think that's who Suge meant by "is really signed to".
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You forgot Game was/is? signed to JT Tha Bigga Figga. I think that's who Suge meant by "is really signed to".
No. Even JT has admitted otherwise. JT basically gave him a deal to do those early recordings then let him do his thing. He tried to sell them to Interscope when Game got on but they passed so he put them out himself. I believe Suge is either talking about Jimmy Henchman or D-Mack.
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Pffff who cares what Suge knows/thinks. Those two rappers from Compton re nevertheless rich as fuck.
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Pffff who cares what Suge knows/thinks.
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Kendrick still made the Forbes rich list earning $9m in 2013
yeah true that. I don't think Kendrick has that bad of a deal to be honest. I mean at this point young rappers from the independent circuit are supposed to have some knowledge of the business, and Kendrick has been around some of the most successful independent artists before he even signed on Aftermath with E-40 and touring with Tech N9ne so it's not like he ain't seasoned. the forbes list is supposed to be a serious/accurate list too. I doubt Suge even looked into their contracts, he just speaking what he thinks Kendrick deal is but I'm sure Kendrick got all of his publishings, unlike any artist not named Dre & 2pac on Death Row at the time and which is, in the long run, the most important thing with owning your masters (which he probably doesn't, as almost nobody does). Suge always says he looked out for his artists by buying them whatever they needed and looking out for them, which may be true, but they had terrible deals and he wasn't paying them what they were due, hence Daz winning $25 mill in court. kinda like Snoop with Tha Eastsidaz.
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You forgot Game was/is? signed to JT Tha Bigga Figga. I think that's who Suge meant by "is really signed to".
No. Even JT has admitted otherwise. JT basically gave him a deal to do those early recordings then let him do his thing. He tried to sell them to Interscope when Game got on but they passed so he put them out himself. I believe Suge is either talking about Jimmy Henchman or D-Mack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8sEWZU4sGHM
In this video JT says Game was signed to him then Game tried to side step him but JT had him under contract.
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Pffff who cares what Suge knows/thinks. Those two rappers from Compton re nevertheless rich as fuck.
I wouldn't call them rich as fuck though... but they do have a decent amount of change in their bank accounts. But I think Kendrick will surpass Game in terms of net worth by the time his next album drops. He has really good exposure to the point where he can be accepted by the mainstream and will get booked for those types of events. He's on the Grammys, All-Star halftime show, SNL, etc., while I don't ever remember Game even performing at the VMAs ever haha.
Kendrick still made the Forbes rich list earning $9m in 2013
yeah true that. I don't think Kendrick has that bad of a deal to be honest. I mean at this point young rappers from the independent circuit are supposed to have some knowledge of the business, and Kendrick has been around some of the most successful independent artists before he even signed on Aftermath with E-40 and touring with Tech N9ne so it's not like he ain't seasoned. the forbes list is supposed to be a serious/accurate list too. I doubt Suge even looked into their contracts, he just speaking what he thinks Kendrick deal is but I'm sure Kendrick got all of his publishings, unlike any artist not named Dre & 2pac on Death Row at the time and which is, in the long run, the most important thing with owning your masters (which he probably doesn't, as almost nobody does). Suge always says he looked out for his artists by buying them whatever they needed and looking out for them, which may be true, but they had terrible deals and he wasn't paying them what they were due, hence Daz winning $25 mill in court. kinda like Snoop with Tha Eastsidaz.
Suge was just speaking on them because they're Compton natives who HAPPENED to be connected to Dre contractually in some way. I've said it before, it wasn't all Suge's fault though... their finances were in such disarray to begin with as they didn't have a real accounting company doing the work, and it didn't help that he ended up getting locked up in 1997. It's not like Suge was purposely withholding people's money in from 1992 onward. They all just learned valuable lessons, with everyone being relatively young and not really being business-minded. Yes, they were ambitious, but no one really had the financial knowledge to do anything right.
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if there's one thing Suge knows it's a bad music contract because he sure gave lots of those out
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8sEWZU4sGHM
In this video JT says Game was signed to him then Game tried to side step him but JT had him under contract.
No shit. I got to go looking into that other interview. I could recall one where he said he put some money behind Game as a temporary investment or something so they could do some music together before they hit it back. If JT had paperwork on him, that must have cost Game some additional bills when that Interscope deal rolled through.
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I think Suge was just saying that about so many labels/companies being involved and all being entitled to some cut. With Game, it was G-Unit/Aftermath/Interscope and then Geffen got involved too for stuff coming out after The Documentary. And then there's still Czar Entertainment or whatever the company is called that is run by Jimmy Henchmen, who gets a piece of the action. And now he's moving to Cash Money/Universal, so who knows how the money will get split at that point. And Kendrick is still linked up with Top Dog/Aftermath/Interscope, so I bet Jay Rock is also getting a nice cut.
Game was always on Universal. Universal distrubutes Interscope music. So all Interscope artists have a deal with them. Czar was a management company, not a record company. Aftermath nor G-Unit were involved in anything after his first record. Aftermath might've still gotten % of him since they first signed him, but definitely not G-Unit. G-Unit just were part of the "production" of the record. He wasnt signed to them. But of course they still got a cut from that album.
But this is normal in the industry. Reason he mentioned them is cuz they from Compton & out right now. But the deals Death Row got by Interscope & the deals the artists were under were bad too according to them, so...
Both Game & Kendrick/TDE have had some of the same affiliated people in their camps working for/with them, and Suge have had issues with some of them before. Don't know how it got resolved or whether but could be why he also mentioned just them. Cuz if you noticed he really wanted to say talk about the people who get them signed to these labels & get a % from them as artists as well..
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Kendrick still made the Forbes rich list earning $9m in 2013
Which always makes me laugh when Kendrick and even professional athletes are called "slaves", lol... if that is slavery then what the fuck am I? What would you call wiping people's assholes at a nursing home for 10 dollars an hour? For real... If Kendrick is fucking Lady Gaga and making 9Million and he's a slave, then what would that make my broke ass who doesn't have enough money to even have a girlfriend and I wipe assholes for 10 dollars an hour?
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According to Ronin Ro's Deathrow biography, Suge/ DR had rappers signing blank pieces of paper. Buying their big artists cars instead of giving them money, etc...
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Kendrick still made the Forbes rich list earning $9m in 2013
Which always makes me laugh when Kendrick and even professional athletes are called "slaves", lol... if that is slavery then what the fuck am I? What would you call wiping people's assholes at a nursing home for 10 dollars an hour? For real... If Kendrick is fucking Lady Gaga and making 9Million and he's a slave, then what would that make my broke ass who doesn't have enough money to even have a girlfriend and I wipe assholes for 10 dollars an hour?
I personally agree that they arent slaves. But you know what they mean when they say that. Also, Forbes means nothing. First of all, they are more wrong than right. Also, that is not what the artist in question has in their bank account. Just cuz Kendrick earned 9 mill (if true), doesnt mean thats all his money. Thats just his brand, and again it's practically a guess. I hate when fans nowadays bring up these Forbes list like its relevant to anything to yall or that means you know what they have. Kendrick (the brand) MIGHT'VE earned 9 mill (guessing by tour revenue etc.). But then he also has to pay alooooot of people, like any artist & then regular stuff like taxes & much more. And thats where that slave thing comes in. It does not mean he has 9 mill in his bank account for himself.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8sEWZU4sGHM
In this video JT says Game was signed to him then Game tried to side step him but JT had him under contract.
No shit. I got to go looking into that other interview. I could recall one where he said he put some money behind Game as a temporary investment or something so they could do some music together before they hit it back. If JT had paperwork on him, that must have cost Game some additional bills when that Interscope deal rolled through.
But who knows, he may not of ever got out of the deal. You can buy your way out of a contract only if the person you're signed to allows you to. Then there was the issue of the Blackwall Street name at one point too where it was unclear if JT owned it or Game. Game may be still obligated to JT even to this day.
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Kendrick still made the Forbes rich list earning $9m in 2013
I would doubt if he actually took home clear 2 million.
$9 million sounds about right. The tours are what brings in the majority of the money, and Kendrick toured with Kanye. So I can imagine he made more money touring with Kanye than had he done a TDE tour instead. If he did the standard TDE tour, I could believe he barely pulled in $2 million. But the Kanye gig, and the commercials for Beats By Dre, I can see it. As for getting paid off the actual album, yeah, I'm sure he's getting pimped.
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According to Ronin Ro's Deathrow biography, Suge/ DR had rappers signing blank pieces of paper. Buying their big artists cars instead of giving them money, etc...
That was a good book but it just jacked info from other documentaries and books.
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Kendrick has toured hard since GKMC, thats the cash money right there always has been
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Kendrick has toured hard since GKMC, thats the cash money right there always has been
And that's one thing that isn't really affected by the digital age... you can't replace live performances, and people will always want to see them live. If anything, it might even help, since they can stream performances. They can charge for it, or just do it for free but get advertising money for it from whichever company wants their product on that page.
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Not trying to be funny but Suge would know about bad contracts, and in this case it make sense. Lets look at who gets paid before Game and Kendrick get their cuts...
Game: Universal - Interscope - CZAR Entertainment - Aftermath - G-Unit (Documentary era for example)
Kendrick: Universal - Interscope - Top Dawg - Aftermath
So see how many hands get their cut before Game and Kendrick touch a penny? Then remember they still have to pay recording fees, pay back the advance, the promo, etc etc etc
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Not trying to be funny but Suge would know about bad contracts, and in this case it make sense. Lets look at who gets paid before Game and Kendrick get their cuts...
Game: Universal - Interscope - CZAR Entertainment - Aftermath - G-Unit (Documentary era for example)
Kendrick: Universal - Interscope - Top Dawg - Aftermath
So see how many hands get their cut before Game and Kendrick touch a penny? Then remember they still have to pay recording fees, pay back the advance, the promo, etc etc etc
That's why there are slaves. Because even if they wanted to stop rapping they couldn't because they have contractual obligations to fulfill that they just can't walk away from. In some cases they may be getting extorted as well.
The only DR contract I've seen was 2Pac's and it was actually pretty good. It was no napkin bs it was a well written legal document. It can be viewed in the afeni shakur case suing DR. I'm not sure where this Suge bad contract talk is coming from. Also, I recently checked out a interview with reggie wright jr. http://www.youtube.com/user/bomb1stcom/videos and he said that the DR artist were living above there means over there. Everyone was taken care of even if they didn't deserve it. I believe him because I haven't seen otherwise. I think DR is taking the fall for alot of what Interscope has done. The same why they lie on suge and say that he kilt pac they say he cheated everyone.
People like to talk about Pac dying broke but fail to mention the million court cases he had, the many hanger on's in his life including family members, the money advanced to him, countless hours of studio time, several music videos and the fact that he hadn't recouped yet for his DR music. If you wondering where the DR music money is at or his DR contract, how come you not wondering the same about Juice, Poetic Justice, Above The Rim, 2Pacolepse now, Thug Life, Strictly for my Niggaz etc? Where was the money at from that? What kind of contract did he have for those deals? At the end of the day even if the deals are bad the artist signed them, they have to live with it. They grown a$$ men. Let's be real here!
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A lot of that is pretty true.
I've said it time and time again... while Suge usually takes the blame for the fall of Death Row and their financial mismanagement, the money situation isn't directly his fault. Their accounting was just really bad. Pac's contract was pretty good, but again, the people at Death Row handling the money likely didn't have any real financial background and pretty much wrote checks and handed out cash when Suge told them to. On a retail level, the distribution outlets paid Death Row based on how many units were being ordered and shipped, because they're a professional organization. But by the time the checks got to Death Row, they pretty much just got deposited... they didn't have a real accounting department overseeing the money coming in and the sales being made and determining how much money whichever artist was to be paid based on what kind of points they were getting. Pac's contract was actually pretty good... but Pac not getting all of the money he should have, based on the terms of his contract, wasn't necessarily because Suge or David Kenner was purposely keeping his money from him. Outside of people like David Kenner and Papa G, a lot of Death Row's staff was just guys from Compton, who likely didn't even go to community college.
Pac did spend money like it was going to expire. It's like Manny Pacquiao too... the guy has been paid well over $100 million from his boxing career so far, but there are a ton of rumors about him having some financial trouble. Again, it's not his promoter's fault, even though the whole world thinks Bob Arum is a crook. It's just mismanagement of his own funds, from buying all sorts of stuff to chartering entire planes to always flying with a huge entourage of people who don't have any real duties to having some tax issues. Pac was in a similar position.
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Also, one thing that was mentioned before about the cars and such... the artists themselves wanted cars anyway. But a lot of them frankly didn't know anything about how to get a car (at least not when going for a nicer ride like a Benz, Jag, Bentley, Rolls, etc. from the dealership) or maybe didn't have the credit either.
It was said that a lot of the stuff was put in Death Row's name because of that at the point of sale/purchase, though it's not as if the artists ever took the initiative to switch the car into their name anyway. I bet a lot of them didn't even get insurance. But a lot of cars were leased anyway, since a lot of rappers even at that time wanted to trade it in anyway for a newer model and weren't too interested in keeping cars for the long term.
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Another thing about 2Pac though is he bought property in cash in many locations. He set up homes everywhere and allowed people to live there. But had he been alive to sell that during the housing bubble, 2Pac would have tripled his wealth. Not a bad move.
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I wouldn't say he would triple his WEALTH. Maybe just his investments in homes specifically... but I don't think he owned THAT much property. What other homes did he own other than the one in Atlanta (where one of the Outlawz eventually lived and took over)? But also, while he put his family members in houses, he may have just been paying the rent for them and not necessarily a mortgage. Pac was business-minded, but he didn't have business smarts. I don't see him at 21-22-23-24-25 having the money to front for those properties, keep up with paying the mortgages on them while also having the insight of investing in it.
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Not trying to be funny but Suge would know about bad contracts, and in this case it make sense. Lets look at who gets paid before Game and Kendrick get their cuts...
Game: Universal - Interscope - CZAR Entertainment - Aftermath - G-Unit (Documentary era for example)
Kendrick: Universal - Interscope - Top Dawg - Aftermath
So see how many hands get their cut before Game and Kendrick touch a penny? Then remember they still have to pay recording fees, pay back the advance, the promo, etc etc etc
That's why there are slaves. Because even if they wanted to stop rapping they couldn't because they have contractual obligations to fulfill that they just can't walk away from. In some cases they may be getting extorted as well.
The only DR contract I've seen was 2Pac's and it was actually pretty good. It was no napkin bs it was a well written legal document. It can be viewed in the afeni shakur case suing DR. I'm not sure where this Suge bad contract talk is coming from. Also, I recently checked out a interview with reggie wright jr. http://www.youtube.com/user/bomb1stcom/videos and he said that the DR artist were living above there means over there. Everyone was taken care of even if they didn't deserve it. I believe him because I haven't seen otherwise. I think DR is taking the fall for alot of what Interscope has done. The same why they lie on suge and say that he kilt pac they say he cheated everyone.
People like to talk about Pac dying broke but fail to mention the million court cases he had, the many hanger on's in his life including family members, the money advanced to him, countless hours of studio time, several music videos and the fact that he hadn't recouped yet for his DR music. If you wondering where the DR music money is at or his DR contract, how come you not wondering the same about Juice, Poetic Justice, Above The Rim, 2Pacolepse now, Thug Life, Strictly for my Niggaz etc? Where was the money at from that? What kind of contract did he have for those deals? At the end of the day even if the deals are bad the artist signed them, they have to live with it. They grown a$$ men. Let's be real here!
Anybody who thinks that's slavery is a fuckin moron. Slaves didn't ask to be kidnapped, stripped of their history / language / education, and forced to work their asses off - they were FORCED to. Did anybody take Game or Kendrick out if their suburban homes, put a gun to their head and force them to rap? Game actually had the opportunity to play basketball professionally, he passed on that in favor of being a rapper. That sound even remotely close to slavery? Stoppit.
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Kendrick still made the Forbes rich list earning $9m in 2013
Which always makes me laugh when Kendrick and even professional athletes are called "slaves", lol... if that is slavery then what the fuck am I? What would you call wiping people's assholes at a nursing home for 10 dollars an hour? For real... If Kendrick is fucking Lady Gaga and making 9Million and he's a slave, then what would that make my broke ass who doesn't have enough money to even have a girlfriend and I wipe assholes for 10 dollars an hour?
For a man who use to call himself "Allah's Slave" you should know that slavery can take on many forms.
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Anybody who thinks that's slavery is a fuckin moron. Slaves didn't ask to be kidnapped, stripped of their history / language / education, and forced to work their asses off - they were FORCED to. Did anybody take Game or Kendrick out if their suburban homes, put a gun to their head and force them to rap? Game actually had the opportunity to play basketball professionally, he passed on that in favor of being a rapper. That sound even remotely close to slavery? Stoppit.
Why even bother?
The entertainment industry is full of shady people, if you don't know by now, then you never will. The idiots that sign contracts these days only have themselves to blame. Especially the retards that do the 360 deals. We live in the internet era, if you can't blow up via youtube or some other medium then you don't deserve to be heard anyways.
And fuck that fat nicca Suge.
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I've said it time and time again... while Suge usually takes the blame for the fall of Death Row and their financial mismanagement, the money situation isn't directly his fault. Their accounting was just really bad.
And why are these things not directly his responsibility exactly? You can have the most fair and balanced artist contract in the world. If it's not being honored and you're not being paid accordingly, what does it matter? And that's not to say Suge is all the way to blame because I don't know but a reputation proceeds the label. In terms of money and position, can anyone that was on that label (even Dre, who reportedly owned it at one time) compare to what Eminem or 50 Cent, two Aftermath artists, made in sense of having money and managing their own labels, independent of Aftermath.
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Not trying to be funny but Suge would know about bad contracts, and in this case it make sense. Lets look at who gets paid before Game and Kendrick get their cuts...
Game: Universal - Interscope - CZAR Entertainment - Aftermath - G-Unit (Documentary era for example)
Kendrick: Universal - Interscope - Top Dawg - Aftermath
So see how many hands get their cut before Game and Kendrick touch a penny? Then remember they still have to pay recording fees, pay back the advance, the promo, etc etc etc
That's why there are slaves. Because even if they wanted to stop rapping they couldn't because they have contractual obligations to fulfill that they just can't walk away from. In some cases they may be getting extorted as well.
The only DR contract I've seen was 2Pac's and it was actually pretty good. It was no napkin bs it was a well written legal document. It can be viewed in the afeni shakur case suing DR. I'm not sure where this Suge bad contract talk is coming from. Also, I recently checked out a interview with reggie wright jr. http://www.youtube.com/user/bomb1stcom/videos and he said that the DR artist were living above there means over there. Everyone was taken care of even if they didn't deserve it. I believe him because I haven't seen otherwise. I think DR is taking the fall for alot of what Interscope has done. The same why they lie on suge and say that he kilt pac they say he cheated everyone.
People like to talk about Pac dying broke but fail to mention the million court cases he had, the many hanger on's in his life including family members, the money advanced to him, countless hours of studio time, several music videos and the fact that he hadn't recouped yet for his DR music. If you wondering where the DR music money is at or his DR contract, how come you not wondering the same about Juice, Poetic Justice, Above The Rim, 2Pacolepse now, Thug Life, Strictly for my Niggaz etc? Where was the money at from that? What kind of contract did he have for those deals? At the end of the day even if the deals are bad the artist signed them, they have to live with it. They grown a$$ men. Let's be real here!
Anybody who thinks that's slavery is a fuckin moron. Slaves didn't ask to be kidnapped, stripped of their history / language / education, and forced to work their asses off - they were FORCED to. Did anybody take Game or Kendrick out if their suburban homes, put a gun to their head and force them to rap? Game actually had the opportunity to play basketball professionally, he passed on that in favor of being a rapper. That sound even remotely close to slavery? Stoppit.
Just because we disagree that doesn't mean you have to resort to calling names. As far as the bolded goes, possibly, that's why I mentioned extortion. What you think Jimmy Henchman would have done if Game told him that he wanted to stop rapping to pursue a basketball career? Not saying that Game was/is being extorted either, just using that as a example.
Just as the poster above said slavery comes in many forms. What you seem to be referring to is the slavery us as a people have endured. I say we are all slaves even to this day by being a citizen, just without the shackles. If you don't believe me, try driving without a license, not paying your income tax or not paying your property tax. They will tell you that you have to pay them or either be locked up (another form of slavery) or lose whatever you own. Either way that's not freedom regardless of whether or not you want to call it slavery.
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Just as the poster above said slavery comes in many forms. What you seem to be referring to is the slavery us as a people have endured. I say we are all slaves even to this day by being a citizen, just without the shackles. If you don't believe me, try driving without a license, not paying your income tax or not paying your property tax. They will tell you that you have to pay them or either be locked up (another form of slavery) or lose whatever you own. Either way that's not freedom regardless of whether or not you want to call it slavery.
There might be some validity to your argument but you've chosen preposterous examples. Yes, you need a license to drive but there's nothing saying you have to own or operate a car. You play the game, you play by the rules. A fair and free world may be a complete illusion but that is a far cry from slavery to me.
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Just as the poster above said slavery comes in many forms. What you seem to be referring to is the slavery us as a people have endured. I say we are all slaves even to this day by being a citizen, just without the shackles. If you don't believe me, try driving without a license, not paying your income tax or not paying your property tax. They will tell you that you have to pay them or either be locked up (another form of slavery) or lose whatever you own. Either way that's not freedom regardless of whether or not you want to call it slavery.
There might be some validity to your argument but you've chosen preposterous examples. Yes, you need a license to drive but there's nothing saying you have to own or operate a car. You play the game, you play by the rules. A fair and free world may be a complete illusion but that is a far cry from slavery to me.
preposterous? might be? How about a ticket for jaywalking then since you don't like the car example? lol
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You don't have to do that either though... depriving someone of jaywalking isn't exactly a crime against humanity, let alone a form of slavery.
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Do anyone have any evidence of Suge giving artist bad contracts?
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Do anyone have any evidence of Suge giving artist bad contracts?
maybe Crooked I