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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: aerroc on February 28, 2014, 05:55:45 PM

Title: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: aerroc on February 28, 2014, 05:55:45 PM
here is a thread for members to post in their mind who were failures and Embarrassments to west coast music
or maybe some 1 you think that was much hype that didn't live up to it post away ;)
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 28, 2014, 06:00:48 PM
Failure: 

Lady of Rage's career after Afro Puffs
Hitman's entire career
the Glasses Malone and Mack 10 album (despite being on the hottest label in rap)


Embarrassments:

Daz's crack addiction
Every family movie Ice Cube does
Snoop's willingness to record any song for a buck, no matter how horrible it is
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: aerroc on February 28, 2014, 06:06:09 PM
Failure:  

Lady of Rage's career after Afro Puffs
Hitman's entire career
the Glasses Malone and Mack 10 album (despite being on the hottest label in rap)


Embarrassments:

Daz's crack addiction
Every family movie Ice Cube does
Snoop's willingness to record any song for a buck, no matter how horrible it is


you got some good points but
Lady of Rage i think she was held back
Ice Cube at least hes not like snoop making any song to make a buck he makes movies these days rappers don't make much money with records you have to be a very top artist to make money and i dont see ice cube being a top artist again and if you own your own label its even more you make
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: 123imagee on March 01, 2014, 12:55:17 AM
snoop for sellin tha fuck out

every artist down with that new trap shit or whatever its called.

Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on March 01, 2014, 02:38:06 AM
Yes def Lady especially that she is from east coast  ::)
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: KrazySumwhat on March 01, 2014, 02:45:27 AM
 Yeah some good points about lady of rage failing and as much as i love Snoop he has done one or two songs that i dont agree with(a European boy band and soulja boy come to mind).
 rage def not an embarrassment but a failure as far as a solo career.
 To an extent Crooked i with all the hype back in the day but i mean slaughter house no failure or embarrassment so..
 I cant really think of any embarrassing artist from the west coast other than Mc Hammer really?
 I guess alot never made it record sales wise as far as being a solo artist.
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Will_B on March 01, 2014, 03:15:11 AM
Rage pretty much stopped recording tho?

I heard her say interview she never wanted to rap and hoped her music career would lead her into acting
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: KrazySumwhat on March 01, 2014, 05:32:04 AM
Thats kinda funny considering even crooked i and chino xl would have a battle on their hands against her. Shit even g rap would have to be at his best against her.
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: adi760 on March 01, 2014, 07:33:55 AM
Yes def Lady especially that she is from east coast  ::)
Like Pac, Kurupt  ::)
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 01, 2014, 09:48:37 AM
Rage was far from an embarrassment, even thought her album didn't sell it had heat...when I think of embarrassing its someone like Guerilla Black
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Blood$ on March 01, 2014, 10:05:26 AM
Guerrilla Black
Hot Dollar (he had a few cool joints though)
40 Glocc
Lil B
YG
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: doublee313 on March 01, 2014, 10:44:05 AM
Good pick fellows.  I'm 38 now, and grew up from the roots of the WC stuff.  Here's my list:

Daz (He fails to put out a solid album.....Still has the talent, but maybe lacking the $$)
Kurupt (Seems to have lost his flow.  Just puts out freestyles on tracks now that make no sense)
Bishop Lamont (Came out strong on Warren G's album, but then sounds like a East Coast and just flat.  Lost that West Coast edge)
Crooked I (Really bad solo album.  The beats were so bad it sounds like he went to some local studio and some amatur made some fruity loops shit)

If these guys came through, I'd be happy.  Miss the old days.

And I don't even want to mention....but wtf....Dr. Dre.....If he released an album, these cats above would probably be stepping up their game.
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: BIGWORM on March 01, 2014, 11:11:25 AM
the who "New West Movement" that didn't seem to "MOVE" lol...
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on March 01, 2014, 12:25:45 PM
Yes def Lady especially that she is from east coast  ::)
Like Pac, Kurupt  ::)

Are u that dumb? That some1 recorded album for west coast label don't make him west coast artist so before u try again be smart ass got all facts
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Blood$ on March 01, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
Yes def Lady especially that she is from east coast  ::)
Like Pac, Kurupt  ::)

Are u that dumb? That some1 recorded album for west coast label don't make him west coast artist so before u try again be smart ass got all facts

it's regarded as a west coast album and will be forever regarded as so

you don't see Me Against The World or Kuruption making the top lists of east coast albums do you?
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 01, 2014, 01:23:01 PM
Crooked I (Really bad solo album.  The beats were so bad it sounds like he went to some local studio and some amatur made some fruity loops shit)

you referring to Apex Predator or Hood Star?



either way both had some dope ass beats on them and a few stinkers too.  but both CD's were worth listening to.  neither are classic albums by any stretch but both are worth peeping.
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: doublee313 on March 01, 2014, 04:21:04 PM
Crooked I (Really bad solo album.  The beats were so bad it sounds like he went to some local studio and some amatur made some fruity loops shit)

you referring to Apex Predator or Hood Star?



either way both had some dope ass beats on them and a few stinkers too.  but both CD's were worth listening to.  neither are classic albums by any stretch but both are worth peeping.

I feel ripped off with Apex Predator.  The lyrics are good, but I only can bump 3 songs.  No Sleep Gang, Vegas on Biz, some other.  Really for a solo, he should have stuck with his producer from Mr. Pigface.  That was dope.
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 01, 2014, 05:37:41 PM
he should have mixed Pigface and Block Obama 2 EP into one LP


or In None We Trust + Pigface together
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: EAZY-LI on March 01, 2014, 06:22:44 PM
Snoop Dogg  ;)
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 01, 2014, 06:47:43 PM
Biggest embarrassment...Da Game is to Be Sold and Not Told


he should have mixed Pigface and Block Obama 2 EP into one LP

That's always been my opinion aswell
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: aerroc on March 01, 2014, 09:51:07 PM
lot of hate on snoop here but it is true but this guy is worse Topzilla

(http://i30.servimg.com/u/f30/11/25/41/66/album-10.jpg)
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Will_B on March 01, 2014, 11:26:50 PM
Biggest embarrassment...Da Game is to Be Sold and Not Told

Snoop proved with doggfather he was only capable of dropping a classic under Dre


Personally I like Da Game as a funk/rap album (even if snoop sounds pretty ass on the mic). And let's be honest, he put out wayyyy worse projects since...
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: BiggSadot on March 02, 2014, 05:13:25 AM
Snoop - Sold out
Game - so much cornball shit from this guy dont know where to start
40 Glocc - no explanation needed
Guerilla Black - no explanation needed
Mista Fab - cosignin white people sayin nigger gets him here
Crooked I - damn near 20 yrs in rap n thats all you got to show for it lol
 just to name a few
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 02, 2014, 06:43:23 AM
Game's problem was when Jimmy Rosemond started pulling Game away from G Unit he listened to Jimmy like a moron
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Jimmy H. on March 02, 2014, 01:12:24 PM
Snoop proved with doggfather he was only capable of dropping a classic under Dre

I don't think that is a fair assessment. I think Snoop was capable of making classics back then, the timing just wasn't right on that one.
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Blood$ on March 02, 2014, 04:46:33 PM
LOL at people really naming dudes like Snoop, Game, Kurupt, Rage, etc. in here

it's one thing if you think they may have fell off musically (which is the case with some) but to call them a failures and an embarrassment in general? y'all trying way too hard to troll some euros or you never heard their entire catalogs lol
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 03, 2014, 12:25:55 AM
Game's problem was when Jimmy Rosemond started pulling Game away from G Unit he listened to Jimmy like a moron

How so? If anything Jimmy kept Game walking a straight and narrow path. Remember when Jimmy was around Game's popularity was at its peak. He had movies, his own shoe line, Doctor's Advocate was produced by Henchmen's camp. Since he's been locked up and Game has been making his own decisions with TayDoe he's been taking L's. He's coppying every rapper in the industry, nothing is consistent, stories all over the place, clearly trying to force people to like him (Dwight Howard disease).


Snoop proved with doggfather he was only capable of dropping a classic under Dre

I don't think that is a fair assessment. I think Snoop was capable of making classics back then, the timing just wasn't right on that one.

Nope Do Buy Albums has it right. Doggystyle is classic, no need to revisit that. But let's take a look at his projects after...

Doggfather - dry / dull sounding, complete letdown compared to Doggystyle
Da Game is to Be Sold... - AWFUL. tried to hard too be Mr. Bout it, Bout it
No Limit Top Dogg - great comeback! definitely back on track. Guess who was back in the picture?
Tha Last Meal - great album. back to back albums that i wish replaced Doggfather / Da Game. but again...who's handprints were all over this album?
Paid tha Cost... - actually a dope album. fresh sounding, reinvented himself nicely
R&G - i can't get jiggy with this shit
Tha Blue Carpet Treatment - probably the last good album we'll hear from him. hey who was back in the picture? ahh-hahh
Ego Trippin - looked good on paper but ehh, nothing worth listening to again
Malice n Wonderland - should've been called Da Game is to Be Sold Pt.2 - fuck this album
Doggumentary - too much going on, more of a compilation of good leftovers if anything
Reincarnated - not even wasting my time

So out of the 4 dope bolded albums only 1 was Dre-less. ill give him credit for Tha Eastsidaz album too but there's clearly a track record of Snoop not delivering without Dre. By no means is he a failure, he's just too cocky for his own good.
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Enigma on March 03, 2014, 12:31:50 AM
Game is To be Sold was not awful by any stretch. Listen to it now with some perspective and see what you think. Some real jams there...
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 03, 2014, 01:44:21 AM
^ I did a few weeks ago...still feel the same way I do now as I did 16 years ago. That album is just not him at all. I'd rather listen to Silkk the Shocker's Made Man album.
Title: Re: list of artist that were failures and Embarrassments to the west coast
Post by: Blood$ on March 04, 2014, 02:12:22 PM
I didn't think Da Game was good or awful as a whole, just ok but "Slow Down" is one of my favorite Snoop songs  8)