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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: infinite59 on March 22, 2003, 04:13:07 AM
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One day when people get past their infant stages of maturity and quit feeling so insecure, they will be able to finally realize that nationalism: the practice of dividing ourselves up relative to the unnatural borders man has placed on this Earth; is the reason we are failing to actualize world peace.
Like the Qur'an teaches. All men are equal. A dead man in Iraq or North Korea is just as sad as a dead American, or dead European. The only thing that makes one person better than another is his deads.
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I agree with you for once. I think patriotism and nationalism are just forms of xenaphobia and a tool used to give a nations people the soldier mentality of 'us and them'. Once you travel a little bit and see other cultures you realize just how similar ALL humans are despite the differences and boundaries.
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All men are equal. A dead man in Iraq or North Korea is just as sad as a dead American, or dead European. The only thing that makes one person better than another is his deads.
^^very true statement. But our media doesnt feel the same, and the media is basically only a reflexion of the peoples views. Seeing as how the media will only show, what the people want to see. Americans, want to know about the 5 US soldiers that die...and spend a 1 hour segment on it, and would not want to hear about 100 Iraqi civilians who die.
Im American, i was born here, i live here, and will probably always live here. Id honestly rather live here then anywhere, BUT, im not so blind as some. The only way to make your country BETTER, is to question it sometimes. Some, jus fuckin follow like sheep. "Anything the country does, MUST be good...we're American!" lol
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The only way to make your country BETTER, is to question it sometimes. Some, jus fuckin follow like sheep. "Anything the country does, MUST be good...we're American!" lol
So true, good post
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All men are equal. A dead man in Iraq or North Korea is just as sad as a dead American, or dead European. The only thing that makes one person better than another is his deads.
^^very true statement. But our media doesnt feel the same, and the media is basically only a reflexion of the peoples views. Seeing as how the media will only show, what the people want to see. Americans, want to know about the 5 US soldiers that die...and spend a 1 hour segment on it, and would not want to hear about 100 Iraqi civilians who die.
Im American, i was born here, i live here, and will probably always live here. Id honestly rather live here then anywhere, BUT, im not so blind as some. The only way to make your country BETTER, is to question it sometimes. Some, jus fuckin follow like sheep. "Anything the country does, MUST be good...we're American!" lol
tone was on point...i'm not one of the blind ones..
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One day when people get past their infant stages of maturity and quit feeling so insecure, they will be able to finally realize that nationalism: the practice of dividing ourselves up relative to the unnatural borders man has placed on this Earth; is the reason we are failing to actualize world peace.
Like the Qur'an teaches. All men are equal. A dead man in Iraq or North Korea is just as sad as a dead American, or dead European. The only thing that makes one person better than another is his deads.
good post and interesting thoughts. though you shouldnt feel the need to site the quran(which is just as much of a hipochracy as the bible)....but i agree with ya on the first part
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LMAO@Infaggot talking about other ppl being insecure..
Yeah good point you have there, but its natural to be nationalistic..everyone defines themselves from their surroundings, culture, environment, religion, etc...and ppl will be nationalistic forever. I can argue the same thign with u and ur religious fanaticism...oh if only ppl would forget religion world would be so much more peaceful...its not realistic though.
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Yeah good point you have there, but its natural to be nationalistic..everyone defines themselves from their surroundings, culture, environment, religion, etc...and ppl will be nationalistic forever.
true...
"In SD, im 5000 Logan block bangin, D stompin down tha block wit tha Chuck T'z flamin"~Don Diego
^^one of tha most common trendz in rap....rep whea u frum. People like to feel proud of the place they come from. Im not BIG on bein from America, but i rep kali and SD to the fullest. So i guess its similar.
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I think some people get the nature of god and the nature of man confused. Sure, it's true, all men are equal, a dead iraqi is just as bad as a dead american. Unfortunately, the world doesn't operate that way, and if you don't operate the way the world does, you die. In a perfect world, people wouldn't get mugged. That doesn't mean you stroll the alleys of new york at night, because 'you understand'. Please. BTW, stop telling us stuff we already know. Hey, I got some philosophy for you:
"Men and women are equals"!!!
Now, maybe we'll get a dozen people to respond and tell me how insightful I am for stating the obvious.
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One day when people get past their infant stages of maturity and quit feeling so insecure, they will be able to finally realize that nationalism: the practice of dividing ourselves up relative to the unnatural borders man has placed on this Earth; is the reason we are failing to actualize world peace.
Like the Qur'an teaches. All men are equal. A dead man in Iraq or North Korea is just as sad as a dead American, or dead European. The only thing that makes one person better than another is his deads.
That is cool. But when are Muslims going to start considering people of other religions to be their equals instead of "infidels"?
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The second your country stops targeting Muslims.
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The second your country stops targeting Muslims.
My country? Muslims can't get along with Christians, Jews, or Hindus. They are commiting terror all over, from Palestine to Indonesia to Chechnya to Kashmir to America to the Phillipines. It is everywhere.
Clearly there is a problem here, and it can't be blamed on my country.
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The second your country stops targeting Muslims.
My country? Muslims can't get along with Christians, Jews, or Hindus. They are commiting terror all over, from Palestine to Indonesia to Chechnya to Kashmir to America to the Phillipines. It is everywhere.
Clearly there is a problem here, and it can't be blamed on my country.
hAHA Word...I cant wait for debate club nerd to come here and "rip ur argument" like a faghan rips male anuses ::)
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One day when people get past their infant stages of maturity and quit feeling so insecure, they will be able to finally realize that nationalism: the practice of dividing ourselves up relative to the unnatural borders man has placed on this Earth; is the reason we are failing to actualize world peace.
Like the Qur'an teaches. All men are equal. A dead man in Iraq or North Korea is just as sad as a dead American, or dead European. The only thing that makes one person better than another is his deads.
That is cool. But when are Muslims going to start considering people of other religions to be their equals instead of "infidels"?
Infidel means one who is not of a particular religion. So therefore a non-Muslim would be of course an infidel when we are speaking in relation to Islam. So what are you saying? You are saying nothing.
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haha I bet he didnt see that coming!
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Infidel means one who is not of a particular religion. So therefore a non-Muslim would be of course an infidel when we are speaking in relation to Islam. So what are you saying? You are saying nothing.
YOU INFIDEL
Infidel is clearly a derogatory term. Okay, how't this.
Bin Laden, you, Saddam, you're all infidels.
It crosses the line when SADDAM, BIN LADEN AND EVERY OTHER MUSLIM LEADER (barring Lebanon, Turkey and UAE/Bahrain) says: KILL THE INFIDELS
Infidel is clearly being used as an insult. Don't hide behind pretend semantics.
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Also, thinking about it, the subject line is very silly. If you're not American, why are you living there? Could it be because if you lived in Oman, the intolerant Wahabis there would kill you?
You're my friend man, but this thread just seems off the wall.
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Infidel means one who is not of a particular religion. So therefore a non-Muslim would be of course an infidel when we are speaking in relation to Islam. So what are you saying? You are saying nothing.
YOU INFIDEL
Infidel is clearly a derogatory term. Okay, how't this.
Bin Laden, you, Saddam, you're all infidels.
It crosses the line when SADDAM, BIN LADEN AND EVERY OTHER MUSLIM LEADER (barring Lebanon, Turkey and UAE/Bahrain) says: KILL THE INFIDELS
Infidel is clearly being used as an insult. Don't hide behind pretend semantics.
I sawi it comming 7even and I saw this comming even more ;)
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You were born in America = You're an American...Quit hiding behind your true skin, it's not good for you...PeACE
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hAHA Word...I cant wait for debate club nerd to come here and "rip ur argument" like a faghan rips male anuses ::)
Yup.......and it's yur anus gettin ripped........
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If you're not American, why are you living there?
im guessing...that Infinite didnt MOVE to America from another country. he was probably born here. Jus up and moving out of America, isnt exactly a real option for most people. I do believe tho, that people jus put WAY too much emphasis on being "American" lol. I mean, yah...you live here...maybe born here...uhh...whateva. Im more proud tah be frum San Diego and Kali...then from America lol. Maybe its jus cus Kali doesnt step on all the other states, and continuously feel the need to show that we're dominant....oh wait...yah we do ;D
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im guessing...that Infinite didnt MOVE to America from another country. he was probably born here. Jus up and moving out of America, isnt exactly a real option for most people. I do believe tho, that people jus put WAY too much emphasis on being "American" lol. I mean, yah...you live here...maybe born here...uhh...whateva. Im more proud tah be frum San Diego and Kali...then from America lol. Maybe its jus cus Kali doesnt step on all the other states, and continuously feel the need to show that we're dominant....oh wait...yah we do ;D
Didn't answer my point. I said the reason he still lived in America was because if he went to the Arab peninsula, Oman for instance (where his fiancé lives), he would be killed for his white skin. Yeah, of course all Islam is tolerant and all Christianity is evil.
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The second your country stops targeting Muslims.
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Because 9/11 was OUR fault...
Right......
Do me a favor and tell me what happend in Kosovo, I forget...
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Yeah, of course all Islam is tolerant and all Christianity is evil.
My point had nothing to do with religion. im not Muslim OR Christian, so im on neither side in that argument.
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My point had nothing to do with religion. im not Muslim OR Christian, so im on neither side in that argument.
That wasn't directed at you.
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My point had nothing to do with religion. im not Muslim OR Christian, so im on neither side in that argument.
That wasn't directed at you.
mine wasnt directed at you either. lol ;D
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im guessing...that Infinite didnt MOVE to America from another country. he was probably born here. Jus up and moving out of America, isnt exactly a real option for most people. I do believe tho, that people jus put WAY too much emphasis on being "American" lol. I mean, yah...you live here...maybe born here...uhh...whateva. Im more proud tah be frum San Diego and Kali...then from America lol. Maybe its jus cus Kali doesnt step on all the other states, and continuously feel the need to show that we're dominant....oh wait...yah we do ;D
exactly. props to tone