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Title: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 06, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdtxoTjqNf0


 :pimp:

Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on April 06, 2014, 02:47:27 PM
Not best but one of his better songs. I'll go with Murda 4 Life (Remix) with Cadillac Tah & Black Child 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkgGf_MjCqk&index=274&list=FLGHWg--jB893E-4U6fcJOgw
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 06, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
No. Ja has some GREAT songs hurried on all his solos, he just only released his crossover records.

Check out:
Love Me, Hate Me
Fuck U
One Of Us
The Manuel
Never Again
Race Against Time 2
Suicide Freestyle
Etc etc etc
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on April 06, 2014, 05:14:21 PM
No. Ja has some GREAT songs hurried on all his solos, he just only released his crossover records.

Check out:
Love Me, Hate Me
Fuck U
One Of Us
The Manuel
Never Again
Race Against Time 2
Suicide Freestyle
Etc etc etc

^^LOL... this nicca be banging out to Ja Rule all night long, singing in the mirror and shit
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Okka on April 06, 2014, 05:38:16 PM
Ja Rule actually has a lot of dope songs. "Blood In My Eye" was a dope album. I wonder if he can make a comeback.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Remedy360 on April 06, 2014, 05:47:32 PM
No. Ja has some GREAT songs hurried on all his solos, he just only released his crossover records.

Check out:
Love Me, Hate Me
Fuck U
One Of Us
The Manuel
Never Again
Race Against Time 2
Suicide Freestyle
Etc etc etc

^^LOL... this nicca be banging out to Ja Rule all night long, singing in the mirror and shit

Have you listened to any of those songs?
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 06, 2014, 06:28:09 PM
i always thought his top 5 or so songs were holla holla, clap back, the life, that song with jay z and dmx on his first album and the song he did with Crooked I on the Dysfunktional family soundtrack
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on April 06, 2014, 07:42:37 PM
No. Ja has some GREAT songs hurried on all his solos, he just only released his crossover records.

Check out:
Love Me, Hate Me
Fuck U
One Of Us
The Manuel
Never Again
Race Against Time 2
Suicide Freestyle
Etc etc etc

^^LOL... this nicca be banging out to Ja Rule all night long, singing in the mirror and shit

Have you listened to any of those songs?

Is this a serious question?  This is almost as bad as the Timberlake thread
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Remedy360 on April 06, 2014, 07:50:42 PM
No. Ja has some GREAT songs hurried on all his solos, he just only released his crossover records.

Check out:
Love Me, Hate Me
Fuck U
One Of Us
The Manuel
Never Again
Race Against Time 2
Suicide Freestyle
Etc etc etc

^^LOL... this nicca be banging out to Ja Rule all night long, singing in the mirror and shit

Have you listened to any of those songs?

Is this a serious question?  This is almost as bad as the Timberlake thread

My whole point is that you're judging dude off of radio singles when it reality he had much deeper material than that, and the fact that you're comparing him to Timberlake shows how little you actually know. Can't say this surprises me though.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: MistaNova on April 06, 2014, 09:49:46 PM
My personal opinion is no since the best Ja Rule song IMO is New York (I know that's a cliche pick but fuck it, that's still Ja's best track as far as I'm concerned). So I guess my final answer is, maybe.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on April 06, 2014, 09:51:01 PM
My personal opinion is no but then again the best Ja Rule song IMO is New York (I know that's a cliche pick but fuck it, that's still Ja's best track as far as I'm concerned).

Na, I feel you on that. Shit was a real fucking anthem. 8)
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: MistaNova on April 06, 2014, 09:54:31 PM
My personal opinion is no but then again the best Ja Rule song IMO is New York (I know that's a cliche pick but fuck it, that's still Ja's best track as far as I'm concerned).

Na, I feel you on that. Shit was a real fucking anthem. 8)

+1.
Time to give my old R.U.L.E. CD a spin.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Blood$ on April 07, 2014, 09:16:56 AM
My personal opinion is no but then again the best Ja Rule song IMO is New York (I know that's a cliche pick but fuck it, that's still Ja's best track as far as I'm concerned).

Na, I feel you on that. Shit was a real fucking anthem. 8)
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 07, 2014, 02:16:54 PM
No. Ja has some GREAT songs hurried on all his solos, he just only released his crossover records.

Check out:
Love Me, Hate Me
Fuck U
One Of Us
The Manuel
Never Again
Race Against Time 2
Suicide Freestyle
Etc etc etc

^^LOL... this nicca be banging out to Ja Rule all night long, singing in the mirror and shit


Good one, dick.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Blood$ on April 07, 2014, 02:59:31 PM
actually "Fuck You" might be my favorite from Ja

forgot about the "Race Against Time" cuts those were hard too
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on April 07, 2014, 03:02:40 PM




Good one, dick.

That was a joke, dude... Aside from this Ja Rule thing I know you got good taste in music and I respect your posts at the forum
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on April 07, 2014, 03:09:10 PM


My whole point is that you're judging dude off of radio singles when it reality he had much deeper material than that, and the fact that you're comparing him to Timberlake shows how little you actually know. Can't say this surprises me though.

This is Ja Rule we are talking about.... He could even sound like Pac and I still wouldn't feel it.  He can do a cover to "Pain" and I still wouldn't feel it... Because you got to understand, that more than just a rapper, Pac was a great human being.   

There are many pathways to the heart.  What we hear, see, eat, think, feel, etc., all of this effects our subconscious flex... and whatever we take in is going to manifest itself one way or another.  So to recap, why I don't like Ja Rule,

1.  His music is wack
2.  Even if his music sounded good I still wouldn't listen to him because the soul and heart is lacking 
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Scrappy Doo on April 07, 2014, 04:04:06 PM
Not best but one of his better songs. I'll go with Murda 4 Life (Remix) with Cadillac Tah & Black Child 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkgGf_MjCqk&index=274&list=FLGHWg--jB893E-4U6fcJOgw

Came here to say this !
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Remedy360 on April 07, 2014, 08:59:44 PM


My whole point is that you're judging dude off of radio singles when it reality he had much deeper material than that, and the fact that you're comparing him to Timberlake shows how little you actually know. Can't say this surprises me though.

This is Ja Rule we are talking about.... He could even sound like Pac and I still wouldn't feel it.  He can do a cover to "Pain" and I still wouldn't feel it... Because you got to understand, that more than just a rapper, Pac was a great human being.   

There are many pathways to the heart.  What we hear, see, eat, think, feel, etc., all of this effects our subconscious flex... and whatever we take in is going to manifest itself one way or another.  So to recap, why I don't like Ja Rule,

1.  His music is wack
2.  Even if his music sounded good I still wouldn't listen to him because the soul and heart is lacking 

But you just admitted that you never even listen to him. How would you know that "heart and soul" is lacking?
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: doggfather on April 08, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
Not best but one of his better songs. I'll go with Murda 4 Life (Remix) with Cadillac Tah & Black Child 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkgGf_MjCqk&index=274&list=FLGHWg--jB893E-4U6fcJOgw

Came here to say this !

+1
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: aerroc on April 08, 2014, 07:55:24 AM
he was a much better artist then 50 cents at least ja rule can make hits unlike 50
and he sold way more albums then 50 people wanted change and 50 fluke was that change instead all we got in return was garbage dre should have kept those beats for detox


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja_Rule_discography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja_Rule_discography)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_discography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_discography)
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Jack Trippa 3z company ho on April 08, 2014, 11:48:21 AM
Good song...my fav Ja joint is "how many wanna"...can't remember which soundtrack that was on but it sampled the macguyver intro song and shit was flames.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on April 08, 2014, 03:42:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/BTEFKpWHaKE
(pause)


https://www.youtube.com/v/14VPjosFJXo
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on April 08, 2014, 09:59:15 PM


But you just admitted that you never even listen to him. How would you know that "heart and soul" is lacking?

Don't have to listen to the whole catalog to figure it out.   Funny thing is, I just got into hip-hop when Dre came out with the Chronic.  Death Row was on top for the next 4 years.  So being a kid I kind of just got used to buying whatever the top rap albums were.  I just kind of came in at the right time when rap was experiencing its golden age.  So I was still in that habit and too young and ignorant to know that what's "hott" may not always be the real shit...

...So after Death Row first fell I was still in the habit of buying whatever was "hott" or big at the time.  So when Def Jam followed and had their little run of success with DMX, Jay-Z, and Ja Rule I bought both of DMX's first two albums, Ja Rules first album, and Jay Z's "In My Lifetime" and "Hard Knock Life".  I was also buying No Limit albums, Bad Boy and all that bullshit.  No wonder it was the worst period of my whole life and I was a fuccing idiot in those days and didn't even understand why.  That shit fuccs with your conscience when you are listening to bullshit all the time.

That type of music may sound good on the first listen but it leaves you empty and doesn't stand the test of time.  People won't be talking about Ja Rule 10 years from now but they will still be talking about Death Row.  There's a reason why you never hear a word about No Limit these days even though they basically ran the rap industry in 98.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Sccit on April 08, 2014, 10:16:38 PM
INFINTE'S RIGHT, JA RULE HAS ALWAYS SUCKED ASS
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 11, 2014, 06:13:57 AM
INFINTE'S RIGHT, JA RULE HAS ALWAYS SUCKED ASS

Ja has some dope songs man, don't let the Ashanti shit fool ya
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Sccit on April 11, 2014, 02:10:21 PM
I know all about ja rule...he has some mediocre stuff, but he's part of the downfall of rap
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 11, 2014, 03:52:50 PM
I know all about ja rule...he has some mediocre stuff, but he's part of the downfall of rap

no, that was Puffy and Birdman.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Sccit on April 11, 2014, 06:10:23 PM
PUFFY AT LEAST BROUGHT US CLASSICS, AND CASH MONEY HAD SOME HITTERS IN THEIR DAY.....JA RULE'S ENTIRE PERSONA WAS LIKE A MUCH GAYER VERSION OF A WANNABE PAC.. SON IS JUST WHACK PERIOD.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 11, 2014, 06:14:42 PM
PUFFY AT LEAST BROUGHT US CLASSICS, AND CASH MONEY HAD SOME HITTERS IN THEIR DAY.....JA RULE'S ENTIRE PERSONA WAS LIKE A MUCH GAYER VERSION OF A WANNABE PAC.. SON IS JUST WHACK PERIOD.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DImk4WaVLf4


how is that whack??
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Sccit on April 11, 2014, 06:27:23 PM
SO WHAT IF HE WAS ON A COUPLE OF DOPE TRACKS, IF THAT SONG WAS A JA RULE SOLO IT WOULD BE 100% GAY, BECAUSE HE HIMSELF IS GAY.....CANT FUX WIT THAT SHIT
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 11, 2014, 06:36:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCBaiyqK3Z0



banger
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Sccit on April 11, 2014, 07:38:59 PM
LOL slap ja rule all u want, he the definition of whack
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 11, 2014, 09:00:49 PM
LOL slap ja rule all u want, he the definition of whack

i'm not sayin he's anything special but he has some bangers to his name.  he also has a lot of garbage music to his name too.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Jimmy H. on April 13, 2014, 01:15:46 PM
This is Ja Rule we are talking about.... He could even sound like Pac and I still wouldn't feel it.  He can do a cover to "Pain" and I still wouldn't feel it... Because you got to understand, that more than just a rapper, Pac was a great human being.   

There are many pathways to the heart.  What we hear, see, eat, think, feel, etc., all of this effects our subconscious flex... and whatever we take in is going to manifest itself one way or another.  So to recap, why I don't like Ja Rule,

1.  His music is wack
2.  Even if his music sounded good I still wouldn't listen to him because the soul and heart is lacking 
I kind of laugh at shit like this.  Music is music.  You can't judge a person as a human being if your only exposure to them is through media. People get so caught up in the image, it's amusing.

he was a much better artist then 50 cents at least ja rule can make hits unlike 50
and he sold way more albums then 50 people wanted change and 50 fluke was that change instead all we got in return was garbage dre should have kept those beats for detox


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja_Rule_discography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja_Rule_discography)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_discography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_discography)
He's sold way more albums than 50?  You may want to check the numbers on those links you posted, brother.

50 Cent sold 15 million copies worldwide on his first album, Ja Rule did 12 million worldwide combined sales on his first 3 albums.
In the US market, according to the numbers cited, 50 did over 16 million on four released albums while Ja Rule did just under 11 million on 6 released albums. That's not including sales of Guess Who's Back?, the G-Unit group project, or the soundtrack to his movie.

If we're comparing hit songs, 50 has 3 #1 hit singles nationally, 4 if you count features. Ja has 1 off his own record, 2 with Jennifer Lopez. He has never had a hit single as big as "In Da Club".

Did you even bother reading the links you put up or are you just that bad at math? 
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 17, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
i'm a bit shocked at Ja's lack of sales in comparison to 50.  Murder Inc was on fire in the late 90's and damn near everything Irv Gotti was involved in was going platinum  (Jay Z, DMX, Ja).


the only artist Irv was never able to blow up was his favorite emcee, Mc Geronimo
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Jimmy H. on April 17, 2014, 11:42:51 PM
Ja had a very hot run for a couple years but 50 had something that no other artist had since. He was the total package of everything that a new artist needed to be. He had the buzz of being Dr. Dre's new artist. The buzz of being the one to come up with Eminem so the white kids were hip to him. He had the story about being shot nine times and surviving that the media loved.  He was a great interview. He had a strong buzz single with "Wanksta" and a monster hit with "In Da Club". He had taken over the mixtape circuit and made mixtapes into a way to generate interest like nobody had ever seen. Combine that with the idea that Ja Rule was already too heavy in the rotation. People didn't need 50 to tell them that they were tired of him but it definitely helped 50 get there.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 18, 2014, 07:28:33 AM
Ja had a very hot run for a couple years but 50 had something that no other artist had since. He was the total package of everything that a new artist needed to be. He had the buzz of being Dr. Dre's new artist. The buzz of being the one to come up with Eminem so the white kids were hip to him. He had the story about being shot nine times and surviving that the media loved.  He was a great interview. He had a strong buzz single with "Wanksta" and a monster hit with "In Da Club". He had taken over the mixtape circuit and made mixtapes into a way to generate interest like nobody had ever seen. Combine that with the idea that Ja Rule was already too heavy in the rotation. People didn't need 50 to tell them that they were tired of him but it definitely helped 50 get there.

this is all true....lightning in a bottle type shit  (i.e. 2pac going to death row, DMX blowing up in 98, eminem and dre catching eachother at the perfect time etc.)


but i always thought in da club was a "good" song and that's it.  i still remember 50 cent from when How To Rob dropped because the Umaine radio station had a hip hop show and they'd play the dopest stuff and How to rob was a huge underground banger.  didn't blow up but it pissed off a lot of rappers who were named on it which got him the attention he needed  (before being shot)
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Jimmy H. on April 18, 2014, 04:21:16 PM

this is all true....lightning in a bottle type shit  (i.e. 2pac going to death row, DMX blowing up in 98, eminem and dre catching eachother at the perfect time etc.)
I think the 50 thing was a combination of all those things at a time when hip-hop hadn't had it in awhile. Pac at Death Row would be one of the closest to resembling it because you had a guy who had created so much controversy and had such a wild story when he got out of prison, linking up with the biggest label and really going to battle with another major star. DMX in 98 was similar in that he was bringing something back to hip-hop that was absent. He was presenting dark, grimy material at a time when the market was avoiding it like the plague. I honestly do not consider Em and Dre an example of great timing from a commercial standpoint. I think it was good in the sense of where they eventually got to but the market was skeptical of Eminem at first. Even with his first album doing well, people really thought he was some one-hit wonder white pop act that only got over because of Dr. Dre.


but i always thought in da club was a "good" song and that's it.   
Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but there was really no denying how hot the record became.  I've heard people give all the credit to Dre's beat but that "Go, shawty! It's your birffday" was being said by everyone and 50 knew how to write songs.


i still remember 50 cent from when How To Rob dropped because the Umaine radio station had a hip hop show and they'd play the dopest stuff and How to rob was a huge underground banger.  didn't blow up but it pissed off a lot of rappers who were named on it which got him the attention he needed  (before being shot)
I actually remember seeing him on the old WWF Sunday Night Heat when they would play music videos for like weekly wrap-ups and mix wrestling clips with them. They had "Life's on the Line" and I remember thinking it was amazing and checking him out.  He was an artist I wanted to hear more from and then I remember news of him getting shot and many people thinking he would be dead. I picked up that "Power of the Dollar" bootleg around summer of 2001 and was bumping it quite regularly. When "Guess Who's Back" came out, I remember having to drive to like six different music stores to find it because it was real independent. Then that summer, they announced that Em and Dre were signing him and I had a feeling he was going to be huge.

I didn't think "Wanksta" was a great song but it was catching on as an expression and after a few spins of "In Da Club", I could see it being a hit then it ended up becoming one of those tracks that you heard EVERYWHERE.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 18, 2014, 04:33:51 PM
i got a 99 source mag and you'd think Eminem was the biggest star on earth already before MMLP even existed
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Portugoal on April 20, 2014, 03:04:19 AM
I always liked those poppy songs Ja Rule made back then.

Between Me & You
I'm Real Remix
Put It On Me
Thug Lovin

 8)
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Lucifuge on April 20, 2014, 04:29:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sbgKxMxh1I

classic! 8)
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: WestSideDon on April 20, 2014, 05:25:43 AM
Never really liked him and his pop songs, but he made a few pretty cool songs that I still like to listen to nowdays.
New York is my favorite song by him, classic tune.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 20, 2014, 10:59:37 AM
yeah new york is a dope song too
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Jimmy H. on April 20, 2014, 07:10:48 PM
i got a 99 source mag and you'd think Eminem was the biggest star on earth already before MMLP even existed
Who was on the cover of the issue in question?
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 20, 2014, 07:17:12 PM
i got a 99 source mag and you'd think Eminem was the biggest star on earth already before MMLP even existed
Who was on the cover of the issue in question?

Snoop


you got the issue?  there's a main article on Eminem in there.  uses the term "White boy" in the title i think....i haven't read it in a few weeks but i'll dig it out tmrw.


i've purchased a lot of old Source mags the past year or so.  I got the 1994 2pac trial lol
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Jimmy H. on April 20, 2014, 09:05:14 PM
Yeah, I think I have that one. I used to buy them nearly every month in those days. The reason I brought up the cover was to illustrate my point about Em. He didn't get his first Source cover until the MMLP promo rounds.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: TidyKris on April 22, 2014, 04:31:21 PM
The first "Murderers" album that dropped in 2000 was pretty good, there was nothing pop orientated on that one....i may dig that one out
for a listen actually ;)

tracks like:
We Dont Give A Fuck
If You Were My Bitch
Shit Gets Ugly
How Many Wanna Die
We Getting High Tonight (black child)
Tales From The Darkside (dmx)

That album went in pretty hard actually
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 24, 2014, 08:30:44 PM
tales from the darkside was the shit
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Remedy360 on April 25, 2014, 12:11:43 AM
The funny thing is I remember making fun of Ja Rule like everyone for all the poppy shit he did that was all over the radio, but listening to that now I would take that over 90% of radio hits out today lol. Some of its probably nostalgia and reminding me of when I was a teenager and shit, but it's funny how much my perception of him has changed over the years.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Okka on April 25, 2014, 03:21:21 AM
tales from the darkside was the shit

Hell yeah.
Title: Re: Was Holla Holla Ja Rule's best song?
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 25, 2014, 02:20:29 PM
The funny thing is I remember making fun of Ja Rule like everyone for all the poppy shit he did that was all over the radio, but listening to that now I would take that over 90% of radio hits out today lol. Some of its probably nostalgia and reminding me of when I was a teenager and shit, but it's funny how much my perception of him has changed over the years.

Holla Holla would be the best song out in 2014.  Same with Clap Back.   8)