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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Its Tyme For Blunts on May 31, 2014, 09:05:31 PM
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i got the spurs winning in 6. they have incredible depth off the bench and a bigger and better fundamentally sound front court, thats gonna be the X factor and the spurs will be the 2014 NBA Champs.
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Give me Bron all day.
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the heat had it easy making it to the finals, the bobcats and the deflating pacers?? come on son, they walked into the finals. the spurs know how to get it done and actually adjust, they played against id say the other best 2 teams in the west, mavs and thunder. took care of the MVP and the red hot mavs. plus spurs have home court.
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^ I wouldn't say the Mavs were one of the best teams in the West. But yeah, give me Spurs in 7, time to redeem for that collapse last year when they had it in the bag.
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i dont know , i said it last year as well,
if it ends in 6 spurs, if it extends to 7 itll be the heat.
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spurs were literally free throws away from winning. this spurs roster is such a huge upgrade from last year. the spurs big 3 still solid. an improved kawhi leonard and the depth on the bench is incredible. heat down graded for sure. they dont have mike miller who was such a huge factor off the bench for the heat. and of course i would take coach pop over spolestra anyday.
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spurs were literally free throws away from winning. this spurs roster is such a huge upgrade from last year. the spurs big 3 still solid. an improved kawhi leonard and the depth on the bench is incredible. heat down graded for sure. they dont have mike miller who was such a huge factor off the bench for the heat. and of course i would take coach pop over spolestra anyday.
spolestra is nothing but a tool, imo. sub par coaching hidden by talent (along with scott brooks and mike brown (terrible coaching for brown).
as for the game 6 and game 7 theory i have. i just feel like the spurs will run out of gas by the time it gets to game 7. like what happened last year, game 6 sucked all the energy out of them after the heat stole that W.
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Spurs in 5 or 6...Too much depth and the fact that they will get lots of rest before game 1 since they ended the Thunder in 6 instead of 7 definitely helps them.
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spurs were literally free throws away from winning. this spurs roster is such a huge upgrade from last year. the spurs big 3 still solid. an improved kawhi leonard and the depth on the bench is incredible. heat down graded for sure. they dont have mike miller who was such a huge factor off the bench for the heat. and of course i would take coach pop over spolestra anyday.
spolestra is nothing but a tool, imo. sub par coaching hidden by talent (along with scott brooks and mike brown (terrible coaching for brown).
as for the game 6 and game 7 theory i have. i just feel like the spurs will run out of gas by the time it gets to game 7. like what happened last year, game 6 sucked all the energy out of them after the heat stole that W.
You dont think the change in home court advantage plays a part this year. I cant see Miami winning a game 7 in San Antonio.
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spurs were literally free throws away from winning. this spurs roster is such a huge upgrade from last year. the spurs big 3 still solid. an improved kawhi leonard and the depth on the bench is incredible. heat down graded for sure. they dont have mike miller who was such a huge factor off the bench for the heat. and of course i would take coach pop over spolestra anyday.
spolestra is nothing but a tool, imo. sub par coaching hidden by talent (along with scott brooks and mike brown (terrible coaching for brown).
as for the game 6 and game 7 theory i have. i just feel like the spurs will run out of gas by the time it gets to game 7. like what happened last year, game 6 sucked all the energy out of them after the heat stole that W.
yup thats why scott brooks should be gone, he calls no play, has no real system. its all just "ok KD and russ, just go out there and shoot". spolestra is lucky to have the big 3 whose basketball IQ is pretty good and of course lebron and wade bail him out. i mean look at the adjustment coach pop made to beat the thunder, he started matt bonner! fucking genius, that made ibaka come out of the paint cuz obviously all bonner can do is shoot threes and couldnt play off him. that made it easier for parker and ginobili to drive to the paint and of course if ibaka came down to help, easy kick out to bonner, simple inside/out game.
depending who the starting front court for the heat are, i dont see splitter starting again, i think diaw will get the nod at the 4 spot.
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Spurs are actually favorites in the series. -130 to the Heat's +110.
I love me an underdog. Hopefully the media pushes the Spurs big time so everyone nails them.
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Some crazy shit for heads:
Most wins by an NBA player, last 10 years:
Duncan 622
Lebron 621
FG% last 10 years:
Duncan .502
Lebron .500
Parker .500
Bosh .497
Wade .492
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spurs were literally free throws away from winning. this spurs roster is such a huge upgrade from last year. the spurs big 3 still solid. an improved kawhi leonard and the depth on the bench is incredible. heat down graded for sure. they dont have mike miller who was such a huge factor off the bench for the heat. and of course i would take coach pop over spolestra anyday.
1-parker is banged up
2-miami has the best player on the court at all times
3-danny green is gonna have to be consistent this year...spread those 3's around instead of blowing his load in one game
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spurs were literally free throws away from winning. this spurs roster is such a huge upgrade from last year. the spurs big 3 still solid. an improved kawhi leonard and the depth on the bench is incredible. heat down graded for sure. they dont have mike miller who was such a huge factor off the bench for the heat. and of course i would take coach pop over spolestra anyday.
1-parker is banged up
2-miami has the best player on the court at all times
3-danny green is gonna have to be consistent this year...spread those 3's around instead of blowing his load in one game
1. had plenty of rest and wont know how completely healthy he is until hes on the court for game 1.
2. lebron wont be playing the whole game like KD and westbrook did
3. spurs have way more 3 point shooters, diaw, ginobili, mills, belinelli, bonner, kawhi i mean take your pick, they can all drain it
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i keep seeing this bullshit about heat lost cuz lebron wasnt on the court. so the fuck what?? they still had wade and bosh out there, they couldve done something but they didnt. spurs are not getting enough credit for stepping up when it was time to and making shot after shot after shot and executing to perfection. ridiculous smh.
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i keep seeing this bullshit about heat lost cuz lebron wasnt on the court. so the fuck what?? they still had wade and bosh out there, they couldve done something but they didnt. spurs are not getting enough credit for stepping up when it was time to and making shot after shot after shot and executing to perfection. ridiculous smh.
so the Bulls were expected to win a title with MJ out crucial minutes??
the NBA clearly wants the Spurs to keep this competitive so they sabotaged game one.
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i keep seeing this bullshit about heat lost cuz lebron wasnt on the court. so the fuck what?? they still had wade and bosh out there, they couldve done something but they didnt. spurs are not getting enough credit for stepping up when it was time to and making shot after shot after shot and executing to perfection. ridiculous smh.
so the Bulls were expected to win a title with MJ out crucial minutes??
the NBA clearly wants the Spurs to keep this competitive so they sabotaged game one.
its a team sport, the spurs came together as a team, executed, excellent ball movement. the heat and spolestra did a poor job adjusting. its ridiculous that the spurs are not getting the credit they deserve, instead excuses are being made. 4 different spurs made their shots, lebron would not be guarding each and every one of them so thats a poor excuse to say.
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i keep seeing this bullshit about heat lost cuz lebron wasnt on the court. so the fuck what?? they still had wade and bosh out there, they couldve done something but they didnt. spurs are not getting enough credit for stepping up when it was time to and making shot after shot after shot and executing to perfection. ridiculous smh.
so the Bulls were expected to win a title with MJ out crucial minutes??
the NBA clearly wants the Spurs to keep this competitive so they sabotaged game one.
lmao
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they should just change their name to the miami hoes
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they should just change their name to the miami hoes
Team named the Heat ironically they cant take the shit. Blunt Tyme is right tho. Lebron being in wouldnt have stopped that burst SA had near the end. Only thing you can speculate is LBJ would have matched their scoring output during that run which I doubt. Spurs missed 2 shots in the 4th which is just damn near perfect team offense. Only one game but SA gives you 20+ TOs you should win not get beat by 10+. Probably wont get that chance again.
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they should just change their name to the miami hoes
Team named the Heat ironically they cant take the shit. Blunt Tyme is right tho. Lebron being in wouldnt have stopped that burst SA had near the end. Only thing you can speculate is LBJ would have matched their scoring output during that run which I doubt. Spurs missed 2 shots in the 4th which is just damn near perfect team offense. Only one game but SA gives you 20+ TOs you should win not get beat by 10+. Probably wont get that chance again.
Miami had 18.
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Heat in 6.
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spurs had what 20 turnovers? only reason why miami stayed in the game, they thrive off turnovers. knowing SAS and how coach pop adjusts, i dont see them turning over the ball like that game 2, spurs will take a 2-0 lead
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spurs had what 20 turnovers? only reason why miami stayed in the game, they thrive off turnovers. knowing SAS and how coach pop adjusts, i dont see them turning over the ball like that game 2, spurs will take a 2-0 lead
i don't see Lebron collapsing in game 2 either....advantage Heat
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spurs had what 20 turnovers? only reason why miami stayed in the game, they thrive off turnovers. knowing SAS and how coach pop adjusts, i dont see them turning over the ball like that game 2, spurs will take a 2-0 lead
i don't see Lebron collapsing in game 2 either....advantage Heat
explain the 1st half of game 3
edit: matter fact explain the whole game
lebron collapsed
4th quarter: 4 pts, 3 TO, advantage spurs
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The shit thats crazy is how the two most adamant heat supporters on this site are a "76ers" fan and a "Celtics" fan. Strange...
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Matter of fact Ill admit Cham has always stated hes more just a Lebron fan but how you a Celtics fan a fanbase that loathes Lebron with a passion but on here suckin his nuts every night?
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i dont support either, its lakers or die but im a fan of basketball and love watching good basketball. but i do hate the heat, i dont give a fuck if im a hater, i respect the spurs game though and which is why im pulling for them. i enjoy watch the fundamentals and watching wins the right way. i love watching the kinds of plays the spurs run.
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Matter of fact Ill admit Cham has always stated hes more just a Lebron fan but how you a Celtics fan a fanbase that loathes Lebron with a passion but on here suckin his nuts every night?
its definitely strange....but then again, he's only been a celtic fan for a couple years, so it's not like his loyalty is wit the green. he's just a fan by default, as he was a knick fan before, and a phoenix suns fan before that.
i dont support either, its lakers or die but im a fan of basketball and love watching good basketball. but i do hate the heat, i dont give a fuck if im a hater, i respect the spurs game though and which is why im pulling for them. i enjoy watch the fundamentals and watching wins the right way. i love watching the kinds of plays the spurs run.
im rooting for the spurs too, only because of how much LeBron doesn't deserve a threepeat. but you do recognize that spurs are a laker rival, right? and i mean its a LEGIT rivalry, not some newfound in-town rivalry ala lakers-clippers...at the end of the day, it's fuck the spurs. Duncan/Spurs get 5, and we guna be hearin a whole lot of "Duncan is the player of this generation"+"Spurs are the team of this generation" in the media. last thing we want is for our rivals to have that on us. well, it's actually not as bad as the LeBron=GOAT talks we'll be hearing if Heat win, but it's pretty close.
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im rooting for the spurs too, only because of how much LeBron doesn't deserve a threepeat. but you do recognize that spurs are a laker rival, right? and i mean its a LEGIT rivalry, not some newfound in-town rivalry ala lakers-clippers...at the end of the day, it's fuck the spurs. Duncan/Spurs get 5, and we guna be hearin a whole lot of "Duncan is the player of this generation"+"Spurs are the team of this generation" in the media. last thing we want is for our rivals to have that on us. well, it's actually not as bad as the LeBron=GOAT talks we'll be hearing if Heat win, but it's pretty close.
Agreed. It felt so weird rooting for the Spurs last year, but it's gotten easier this year. I'm not too worried about the Spurs legacy. It will take a long time before they ever overcome the Lakers franchise. As far as Duncan, he is the greatest PF of all time regardless.
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Matter of fact Ill admit Cham has always stated hes more just a Lebron fan but how you a Celtics fan a fanbase that loathes Lebron with a passion but on here suckin his nuts every night?
its definitely strange....but then again, he's only been a celtic fan for a couple years, so it's not like his loyalty is wit the green. he's just a fan by default, as he was a knick fan before, and a phoenix suns fan before that.
i dont support either, its lakers or die but im a fan of basketball and love watching good basketball. but i do hate the heat, i dont give a fuck if im a hater, i respect the spurs game though and which is why im pulling for them. i enjoy watch the fundamentals and watching wins the right way. i love watching the kinds of plays the spurs run.
im rooting for the spurs too, only because of how much LeBron doesn't deserve a threepeat. but you do recognize that spurs are a laker rival, right? and i mean its a LEGIT rivalry, not some newfound in-town rivalry ala lakers-clippers...at the end of the day, it's fuck the spurs. Duncan/Spurs get 5, and we guna be hearin a whole lot of "Duncan is the player of this generation"+"Spurs are the team of this generation" in the media. last thing we want is for our rivals to have that on us. well, it's actually not as bad as the LeBron=GOAT talks we'll be hearing if Heat win, but it's pretty close.
but see thats arguable cuz there are numbers and facts that can actually back up those claims.
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The shit thats crazy is how the two most adamant heat supporters on this site are a "76ers" fan and a "Celtics" fan. Strange...
lol
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The shit thats crazy is how the two most adamant heat supporters on this site are a "76ers" fan and a "Celtics" fan. Strange...
lol
It's a good example of Heat "fans" in general.
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Matter of fact Ill admit Cham has always stated hes more just a Lebron fan but how you a Celtics fan a fanbase that loathes Lebron with a passion but on here suckin his nuts every night?
its definitely strange....but then again, he's only been a celtic fan for a couple years, so it's not like his loyalty is wit the green. he's just a fan by default, as he was a knick fan before, and a phoenix suns fan before that.
i dont support either, its lakers or die but im a fan of basketball and love watching good basketball. but i do hate the heat, i dont give a fuck if im a hater, i respect the spurs game though and which is why im pulling for them. i enjoy watch the fundamentals and watching wins the right way. i love watching the kinds of plays the spurs run.
im rooting for the spurs too, only because of how much LeBron doesn't deserve a threepeat. but you do recognize that spurs are a laker rival, right? and i mean its a LEGIT rivalry, not some newfound in-town rivalry ala lakers-clippers...at the end of the day, it's fuck the spurs. Duncan/Spurs get 5, and we guna be hearin a whole lot of "Duncan is the player of this generation"+"Spurs are the team of this generation" in the media. last thing we want is for our rivals to have that on us. well, it's actually not as bad as the LeBron=GOAT talks we'll be hearing if Heat win, but it's pretty close.
but see thats arguable cuz there are numbers and facts that can actually back up those claims.
u don't want spurs vs lakers to be an argument...u want lakers to own competition. u want lakers dynasty post-mj>spurs dynasty post-mj to be an indisputable fact, with no questions *hypnosis over*
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So Hack is basically just a dickrider? Always thought so but nice to see it confirmed. That said, What you guys think bout this new report about Heat goin for Melo this summer to create a Big 4? If this happens n NBA doesnt stop it somehow you might be seein the beginning of end for NBA. What happened to superstars that wanted to be "the" man? Bunch of weak ass beta male sensitive ass punks bout to take over this league.
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Bunch of weak ass beta male sensitive ass punks bout to take over this league.
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So Hack is basically just a dickrider? Always thought so but nice to see it confirmed. That said, What you guys think bout this new report about Heat goin for Melo this summer to create a Big 4? If this happens n NBA doesnt stop it somehow you might be seein the beginning of end for NBA. What happened to superstars that wanted to be "the" man? Bunch of weak ass beta male sensitive ass punks bout to take over this league.
and the guys who root for this are just as beta
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The fact that no team in the east could beat this years Heat team shows how bad the league is. I've said it all year, I didn't think the Heat could make the Finals because of how rarely a team makes the Finals 4 years in a row, but I swear all I saw this year was a bunch of teams that didn't know how to win. It was actually kind of annoying. Anyways, it looks like the Spurs, a veteran team, is finally doing what no other team in the league wanted to do. Once Duncan and Kobe leave, the league will be a lot softer.
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:)
lebron aint 3 peating.
KOBE!!!
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The fact that no team in the east could beat this years Heat team shows how bad the league is. I've said it all year, I didn't think the Heat could make the Finals because of how rarely a team makes the Finals 4 years in a row, but I swear all I saw this year was a bunch of teams that didn't know how to win. It was actually kind of annoying. Anyways, it looks like the Spurs, a veteran team, is finally doing what no other team in the league wanted to do. Once Duncan and Kobe leave, the league will be a lot softer.
considering 2 of the heat players should be in their own respective franchises.
these "super" teams are ruining the league, wheres the individual competition and pride? its like "hey its too hard to win individually building the a team around me, lets all team up and win together!"
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The fact that no team in the east could beat this years Heat team shows how bad the league is. I've said it all year, I didn't think the Heat could make the Finals because of how rarely a team makes the Finals 4 years in a row, but I swear all I saw this year was a bunch of teams that didn't know how to win. It was actually kind of annoying. Anyways, it looks like the Spurs, a veteran team, is finally doing what no other team in the league wanted to do. Once Duncan and Kobe leave, the league will be a lot softer.
considering 2 of the heat players should be in their own respective franchises.
these "super" teams are ruining the league, wheres the individual competition and pride? its like "hey its too hard to win individually building the a team around me, lets all team up and win together!"
I need to see more super teams. Many teams always had a big 3, and some franchise players really aren't great number 1 options. Kevin Love will make a great number 2 for a real superstar. Bosh is a great number 2 for LeBron. Now Wade and LeBron, that's unfair, but Wade is aging and aging fast.
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The fact that no team in the east could beat this years Heat team shows how bad the league is. I've said it all year, I didn't think the Heat could make the Finals because of how rarely a team makes the Finals 4 years in a row, but I swear all I saw this year was a bunch of teams that didn't know how to win. It was actually kind of annoying. Anyways, it looks like the Spurs, a veteran team, is finally doing what no other team in the league wanted to do. Once Duncan and Kobe leave, the league will be a lot softer.
considering 2 of the heat players should be in their own respective franchises.
these "super" teams are ruining the league, wheres the individual competition and pride? its like "hey its too hard to win individually building the a team around me, lets all team up and win together!"
I need to see more super teams. Many teams always had a big 3, and some franchise players really aren't great number 1 options. Kevin Love will make a great number 2 for a real superstar. Bosh is a great number 2 for LeBron. Now Wade and LeBron, that's unfair, but Wade is aging and aging fast.
yeah but almost all super teams i can recollect, they were made when they were at the edge or past their primes. or they were built by draft or legit trades.
what these guys did were unheard of, no competitive edge. 3 franchise players coming in together in their primes? i mean if you look at their skill sets they don't match but the fact that their so good it doesn't matter. (2 ball dominate perimeter players, with none of the being true shooters, all 3 being more face up players than post) but they won 2 out of 4 but considering how talented they are they should win more.
West, Wilt, Baylor, weren't in their primes, Showtime was built off drafts, Kobe+Shaq was built off trades and a draft steal, KG+Pierce+Ray were on their last prime years if you can even call it their prime years.
well the heat aint winning 3 in a row in game 7, this aint the 06 mavs, and dwhsitle aint getting 50 free throw calls
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The fact that no team in the east could beat this years Heat team shows how bad the league is. I've said it all year, I didn't think the Heat could make the Finals because of how rarely a team makes the Finals 4 years in a row, but I swear all I saw this year was a bunch of teams that didn't know how to win. It was actually kind of annoying. Anyways, it looks like the Spurs, a veteran team, is finally doing what no other team in the league wanted to do. Once Duncan and Kobe leave, the league will be a lot softer.
considering 2 of the heat players should be in their own respective franchises.
these "super" teams are ruining the league, wheres the individual competition and pride? its like "hey its too hard to win individually building the a team around me, lets all team up and win together!"
I need to see more super teams. Many teams always had a big 3, and some franchise players really aren't great number 1 options. Kevin Love will make a great number 2 for a real superstar. Bosh is a great number 2 for LeBron. Now Wade and LeBron, that's unfair, but Wade is aging and aging fast.
yeah but almost all super teams i can recollect, they were made when they were at the edge or past their primes. or they were built by draft or legit trades.
what these guys did were unheard of, no competitive edge. 3 franchise players coming in together in their primes? i mean if you look at their skill sets they don't match but the fact that their so good it doesn't matter. (2 ball dominate perimeter players, with none of the being true shooters, all 3 being more face up players than post) but they won 2 out of 4 but considering how talented they are they should win more.
West, Wilt, Baylor, weren't in their primes, Showtime was built off drafts, Kobe+Shaq was built off trades and a draft steal, KG+Pierce+Ray were on their last prime years if you can even call it their prime years.
well the heat aint winning 3 in a row in game 7, this aint the 06 mavs, and dwhsitle aint getting 50 free throw calls
Yet, I think they might only win 3 together, if they stay together. It was a good run, but the Heat will fall soon. They are getting close to 2004 Laker status.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/dQePkBnD0vo?hl=en_US&version=3
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http://www.youtube.com/v/dQePkBnD0vo?hl=en_US&version=3
fuck is the point in posting this? completely different spurs teams.
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The game was rigged, the NBA clearly wants the Spurs to win.
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fuck is the point in posting this? completely different spurs teams.
The point was to show how easy Jordan always made it look, as opposed to Lebron have to muscle his way towards each and every thing he gets. Unfortunately I was not able to simulate a real game of the 96 Bulls versus the 2014 Spurs.
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fuck is the point in posting this? completely different spurs teams.
The point was to show how easy Jordan always made it look, as opposed to Lebron have to muscle his way towards each and every thing he gets. Unfortunately I was not able to simulate a real game of the 96 Bulls versus the 2014 Spurs.
goes witout sayin
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fuck is the point in posting this? completely different spurs teams.
The point was to show how easy Jordan always made it look, as opposed to Lebron have to muscle his way towards each and every thing he gets. Unfortunately I was not able to simulate a real game of the 96 Bulls versus the 2014 Spurs.
:stupid:
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fuck is the point in posting this? completely different spurs teams.
The point was to show how easy Jordan always made it look, as opposed to Lebron have to muscle his way towards each and every thing he gets. Unfortunately I was not able to simulate a real game of the 96 Bulls versus the 2014 Spurs.
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i don't even know the 96 spurs, but having a depth of talent of the likes of parker, ginobili, duncan, leonard, and having one of the first stretch 4's (besides horry) in diaw, and having a decent bench, with patty mills and belenelli is doubtful
and anyways, you cant guard lebron like you would guard a micheal or kobe. micheal had a J and kobe more so and especially with the implementation of the zone defense (no knock on MJ) players like MJ and kobe would of been doubled immediately once they cross half court.
they don't need to do that with lebron, i don't like lebron i think he's a faggot little pussy, but he's a great player not as great as MJ or Kobes, but the reason why he has to muscle his way in the paint is because thats his game, he isn't going to his a J every time he gets space because its not his strong suit. where as MJ and kobe, you can't give them ANY open shots in the perimeter.
they're D him up close in the perimeter so he can just past by the initial defender, they want him to take J's rather than having him beat his man off the dribble and have the defense collapse on him opening up his team mates for open shots. which is usually why he gets so many assists (also not a knock on his court vision or his passing ability, lebron stans might take offense)
but man lebron makes it looks easy plenty of times. sometimes the lil pussy is in 2k mode. but that goes for any great player.
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aint no love trick...lebron gots no heart
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Impossible to criticized LeBron for last night. Wade & Bosh & everyone else just fucking blow.
2007 all over again.
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Impossible to criticized LeBron for last night. Wade & Bosh & everyone else just fucking blow.
2007 all over again.
someone needed to take over during the 1st half, none of them did. they just generally weren't playing good basketball.
they fucked up in a game they didn't have the luxury to. but the defense was literally horrible.
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This proves how hard it is to win the NBA Finals on that 4th visit in a row. Basically the Heat have no gas left. Sad part is only now reporters are talking about this, I called it before the season started. Fact is they wouldn't have even come out the west. The only reason why they did was because the east is so bad, they couldn't stop a team that had nothing left for this last run. The NBA is the worst I have ever seen in terms of quality teams. Even if the west is really good, the east is so bad that it brings down the whole league. I have no ideas what the NBA should do. But no team had the balls to challenge the Heat in the west, and it took a veteran team like the Spurs to lay down law. Only problem is this gives Duncan that 5th ring, and the talk that he is better than Kobe, which is complete bullshit because the Spurs only won in years the Lakers were weak, not because the Spurs were better than the Lakers when the Lakers were at their strongest.
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because the Spurs only won in years the Lakers were weak, not because the Spurs were better than the Lakers when the Lakers were at their strongest.
Dude that summarizes every title Kobe won lol. Everyone in the league besides Boston was complete ass cheeks during the last two rings & the threepeat was done when the only other team in the NBA was the Kings lol.
The defense is virtually not even there. LeBron went 7-8 with 19 points in the third quarter & the Heat lost the quarter lol.
Bring me Melo lol.
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because the Spurs only won in years the Lakers were weak, not because the Spurs were better than the Lakers when the Lakers were at their strongest.
Dude that summarizes every title Kobe won lol. Everyone in the league besides Boston was complete ass cheeks during the last two rings & the threepeat was done when the only other team in the NBA was the Kings lol.
The defense is virtually not even there. LeBron went 7-8 with 19 points in the third quarter & the Heat lost the quarter lol.
Bring me Melo lol.
You forget the Spurs were complete. The only title you can make a claim is 2010, but the west was do good that year that it didn't matter Boston had injured. The Lakers came out a very tough west. The first three peat, the Lakers went 15-1 during then whole playoffs, including sweeping the Kings, who were complete, and the Spurs, who had no injures. Plus Kobe averaged over 30 that run.
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This proves how hard it is to win the NBA Finals on that 4th visit in a row. Basically the Heat have no gas left. Sad part is only now reporters are talking about this, I called it before the season started. Fact is they wouldn't have even come out the west. The only reason why they did was because the east is so bad, they couldn't stop a team that had nothing left for this last run. The NBA is the worst I have ever seen in terms of quality teams. Even if the west is really good, the east is so bad that it brings down the whole league. I have no ideas what the NBA should do. But no team had the balls to challenge the Heat in the west, and it took a veteran team like the Spurs to lay down law. Only problem is this gives Duncan that 5th ring, and the talk that he is better than Kobe, which is complete bullshit because the Spurs only won in years the Lakers were weak, not because the Spurs were better than the Lakers when the Lakers were at their strongest.
making the finals in the east is like making the playoffs in the west.....LeBron=most overrated player in nba history, and its not even close
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because the Spurs only won in years the Lakers were weak, not because the Spurs were better than the Lakers when the Lakers were at their strongest.
Dude that summarizes every title Kobe won lol. Everyone in the league besides Boston was complete ass cheeks during the last two rings & the threepeat was done when the only other team in the NBA was the Kings lol.
The defense is virtually not even there. LeBron went 7-8 with 19 points in the third quarter & the Heat lost the quarter lol.
Bring me Melo lol.
I know u weren't alive yet, but the NBA was WAY stronger during the Lakers threepeat era than it is now.
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Impossible to criticized LeBron for last night. Wade & Bosh & everyone else just fucking blow.
2007 all over again.
lmao smh
basically, he needs a super team of at least 3 franchise players to win comin out the leastern conference
story of his life
if he played in the west, he wouldn't even have 1 ring.
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Front page of ESPN is how the Heat are worn out and all the minutes they played. Yep. I am calling it next year, Heat don't win next year either. Now I can't say they wouldn't come out the East, the east is too horrible to stop a tired team. But they wouldn't beat a western team.
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Front page of ESPN is how the Heat are worn out and all the minutes they played. Yep. I am calling it next year, Heat don't win next year either. Now I can't say they wouldn't come out the East, the east is too horrible to stop a tired team. But they wouldn't beat a western team.
its not cuz they tired, it's cuz they aint as good as billed....in 2012, they cruised through the easy east and faced an inexperienced okc team to win the title. in 2013, they come out the east and beat the spurs only because the spurs choked away the title. in both those years, they would not have even came out the west. I said it before this series started, if LeBron won the title this time around, I would shut up and give him his due....but I was right all along, while every1 stayed sheepin they ass off. bottom line, LeBron is overrated. he is a beast and I would love to have him on the lakers. but all this billing of him being some amazing all-time great that no one has ever seen was based around the nba tryna build a brand in pursuit of the green....he wasn't even the best player in the nba this year and he's in his prime. how is he anywhere near kobe, magic, michael, bird, kareem, etc. etc.? he's not...not even close...that's all there is to it. ive said it before and ill say it again. he should donate his finals mvp from last year to ray allen and worship the ground he walks on for the turn-around that made three provided on his general perception.
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because the Spurs only won in years the Lakers were weak, not because the Spurs were better than the Lakers when the Lakers were at their strongest.
Dude that summarizes every title Kobe won lol. Everyone in the league besides Boston was complete ass cheeks during the last two rings & the threepeat was done when the only other team in the NBA was the Kings lol.
The defense is virtually not even there. LeBron went 7-8 with 19 points in the third quarter & the Heat lost the quarter lol.
Bring me Melo lol.
I know u weren't alive yet, but the NBA was WAY stronger during the Lakers threepeat era than it is now.
Stop the Nets were not that good. The East sucked then too. The Spurs were strong & the Kings were great. That's it. 2002-2003 was the most competitive it was for them.
Impossible to criticized LeBron for last night. Wade & Bosh & everyone else just fucking blow.
2007 all over again.
basically, he needs a super team of at least 3 franchise players to win comin out the leastern conference
He needs somebody to hit shots. It doesn't even have to be Wade and/or Bosh. Shard has to stop playing, he's just a liability on defense. Chalmers was playing big minutes the last two years for Bron & he's on some Roy Hibbert shit. Ray is streaky as fuck. Wade was playing good up until this series; you can just see in his legs he doesn't have that pep.
Pretty much nobody outside of LeBron can play defense, forcing him to help every possession, leaving Leonard to make a play. Niggas just getting old.
I'll still take Miami LeBron in 7. 8)
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because the Spurs only won in years the Lakers were weak, not because the Spurs were better than the Lakers when the Lakers were at their strongest.
Dude that summarizes every title Kobe won lol. Everyone in the league besides Boston was complete ass cheeks during the last two rings & the threepeat was done when the only other team in the NBA was the Kings lol.
The defense is virtually not even there. LeBron went 7-8 with 19 points in the third quarter & the Heat lost the quarter lol.
Bring me Melo lol.
I know u weren't alive yet, but the NBA was WAY stronger during the Lakers threepeat era than it is now.
Stop the Nets were not that good. The East sucked then too. The Spurs were strong & the Kings were great. That's it. 2002-2003 was the most competitive it was for them.
point is, to get to the nets, lakers had to face tough competition in the west. they weren't going 7 games in the leastern conference with fuckass teams like the pacers ala LeBron and co.
Impossible to criticized LeBron for last night. Wade & Bosh & everyone else just fucking blow.
2007 all over again.
basically, he needs a super team of at least 3 franchise players to win comin out the leastern conference
He needs somebody to hit shots. It doesn't even have to be Wade and/or Bosh. Shard has to stop playing, he's just a liability on defense. Chalmers was playing big minutes the last two years for Bron & he's on some Roy Hibbert shit. Ray is streaky as fuck. Wade was playing good up until this series; you can just see in his legs he doesn't have that pep.
Pretty much nobody outside of LeBron can play defense, forcing him to help every possession, leaving Leonard to make a play. Niggas just getting old.
I'll still take Miami LeBron in 7. 8)
lmao
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because the Spurs only won in years the Lakers were weak, not because the Spurs were better than the Lakers when the Lakers were at their strongest.
Dude that summarizes every title Kobe won lol. Everyone in the league besides Boston was complete ass cheeks during the last two rings & the threepeat was done when the only other team in the NBA was the Kings lol.
The defense is virtually not even there. LeBron went 7-8 with 19 points in the third quarter & the Heat lost the quarter lol.
Bring me Melo lol.
lol, so if the west was complete trash during all those years, given that the east virtually always did worst than the west in standings for the past what almost 10 years?
what makes lebrons titles in a BEEN watered down east? i really don't see your logic there.
everyone forgets how hyped up lebrons' cavs team were, they were projected favorites by ESPN and by the rest of the media, remember mo williams? "we're the best team in basketball"
and lebron choked against the magic in 09 which led the magic to the 09 finals. a team that lived and died by the 3.
there is no team that matches the heats talent, how many HOFers do they need? 3 FRANCHISE Players that came together in their prime, HOFER in ray, an former perennial all star in lewis, and now the team needs MELO to get out of a watered down east?
around those 2peat years our "weak" western conference beat your heats in 11, a team that wasn't even projected out the first or second round. there was the brandon roy led jail blazers, melo's nuggets, the up and coming thunder, the yao and artest led rockets that fought tooth and nail,
lol those were the years kobe was still getting double and tripled right after passing half court, doubled off entry passes. in no way can you compare the defense played on kobe to lebron. theres no reason to double lebron in the perimeter after he passes half court. because he isn't a prolific jump shooter.
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because the Spurs only won in years the Lakers were weak, not because the Spurs were better than the Lakers when the Lakers were at their strongest.
Dude that summarizes every title Kobe won lol. Everyone in the league besides Boston was complete ass cheeks during the last two rings & the threepeat was done when the only other team in the NBA was the Kings lol.
:stupid:
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Front page of ESPN is how the Heat are worn out and all the minutes they played. Yep. I am calling it next year, Heat don't win next year either. Now I can't say they wouldn't come out the East, the east is too horrible to stop a tired team. But they wouldn't beat a western team.
its not cuz they tired, it's cuz they aint as good as billed....in 2012, they cruised through the easy east and faced an inexperienced okc team to win the title. in 2013, they come out the east and beat the spurs only because the spurs choked away the title. in both those years, they would not have even came out the west. I said it before this series started, if LeBron won the title this time around, I would shut up and give him his due....but I was right all along, while every1 stayed sheepin they ass off. bottom line, LeBron is overrated. he is a beast and I would love to have him on the lakers. but all this billing of him being some amazing all-time great that no one has ever seen was based around the nba tryna build a brand in pursuit of the green....he wasn't even the best player in the nba this year and he's in his prime. how is he anywhere near kobe, magic, michael, bird, kareem, etc. etc.? he's not...not even close...that's all there is to it. ive said it before and ill say it again. he should donate his finals mvp from last year to ray allen and worship the ground he walks on for the turn-around that made three provided on his general perception.
Before the season I said the Heat would get tired and not make the finals. Only reason they did was because the east is so bad. I was get frustrated with how bad it was. This year the Heat should have been easy targets.
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Front page of ESPN is how the Heat are worn out and all the minutes they played. Yep. I am calling it next year, Heat don't win next year either. Now I can't say they wouldn't come out the East, the east is too horrible to stop a tired team. But they wouldn't beat a western team.
its not cuz they tired, it's cuz they aint as good as billed....in 2012, they cruised through the easy east and faced an inexperienced okc team to win the title. in 2013, they come out the east and beat the spurs only because the spurs choked away the title. in both those years, they would not have even came out the west. I said it before this series started, if LeBron won the title this time around, I would shut up and give him his due....but I was right all along, while every1 stayed sheepin they ass off. bottom line, LeBron is overrated. he is a beast and I would love to have him on the lakers. but all this billing of him being some amazing all-time great that no one has ever seen was based around the nba tryna build a brand in pursuit of the green....he wasn't even the best player in the nba this year and he's in his prime. how is he anywhere near kobe, magic, michael, bird, kareem, etc. etc.? he's not...not even close...that's all there is to it. ive said it before and ill say it again. he should donate his finals mvp from last year to ray allen and worship the ground he walks on for the turn-around that made three provided on his general perception.
Before the season I said the Heat would get tired and not make the finals. Only reason they did was because the east is so bad. I was get frustrated with how bad it was. This year the Heat should have been easy targets.
like i said, it has nothing to do with them being tired....they shoulda lost last year too
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Front page of ESPN is how the Heat are worn out and all the minutes they played. Yep. I am calling it next year, Heat don't win next year either. Now I can't say they wouldn't come out the East, the east is too horrible to stop a tired team. But they wouldn't beat a western team.
its not cuz they tired, it's cuz they aint as good as billed....in 2012, they cruised through the easy east and faced an inexperienced okc team to win the title. in 2013, they come out the east and beat the spurs only because the spurs choked away the title. in both those years, they would not have even came out the west. I said it before this series started, if LeBron won the title this time around, I would shut up and give him his due....but I was right all along, while every1 stayed sheepin they ass off. bottom line, LeBron is overrated. he is a beast and I would love to have him on the lakers. but all this billing of him being some amazing all-time great that no one has ever seen was based around the nba tryna build a brand in pursuit of the green....he wasn't even the best player in the nba this year and he's in his prime. how is he anywhere near kobe, magic, michael, bird, kareem, etc. etc.? he's not...not even close...that's all there is to it. ive said it before and ill say it again. he should donate his finals mvp from last year to ray allen and worship the ground he walks on for the turn-around that made three provided on his general perception.
Before the season I said the Heat would get tired and not make the finals. Only reason they did was because the east is so bad. I was get frustrated with how bad it was. This year the Heat should have been easy targets.
like i said, it has nothing to do with them being tired....they shoulda lost last year too
being exhausted is hardly an excuse for these guys, if kobe reached the finals 3 times in a row when he was 32-33 and isn't tired, than they have no excuses either.
and kobe didn't have another superstar in the perimeter where he can take plays off.
hell before artest came, kobe was still guarding the other teams best player and than getting double, tripled teams constantly on offense.
you can hardly do that with lebron or wade, because you can't leave one of them open, nor can you leave anyone at the PG or 4 because they can all shoot, not to mention bosh either.
its pretty damn easy when you have 3 franchise players on the team, you literally can't double if all 3 of them are on the floor. you have to do your best with one man coverage, which all 3 players can score on.
yeah they're great players. but i have no respect for them at all. so what if they won some titles, thats expected when 3 franchise players come together in their prime.
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The NBA is the worst I have ever seen in terms of quality teams. Even if the west is really good, the east is so bad that it brings down the whole league. I have no ideas what the NBA should do.
That's simple. Been saying this for years, make it the best 16 teams regardless of conference. Adolf Stern who was against it, is no more here. Go ahead & do it.
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Front page of ESPN is how the Heat are worn out and all the minutes they played. Yep. I am calling it next year, Heat don't win next year either. Now I can't say they wouldn't come out the East, the east is too horrible to stop a tired team. But they wouldn't beat a western team.
its not cuz they tired, it's cuz they aint as good as billed....in 2012, they cruised through the easy east and faced an inexperienced okc team to win the title. in 2013, they come out the east and beat the spurs only because the spurs choked away the title. in both those years, they would not have even came out the west. I said it before this series started, if LeBron won the title this time around, I would shut up and give him his due....but I was right all along, while every1 stayed sheepin they ass off. bottom line, LeBron is overrated. he is a beast and I would love to have him on the lakers. but all this billing of him being some amazing all-time great that no one has ever seen was based around the nba tryna build a brand in pursuit of the green....he wasn't even the best player in the nba this year and he's in his prime. how is he anywhere near kobe, magic, michael, bird, kareem, etc. etc.? he's not...not even close...that's all there is to it. ive said it before and ill say it again. he should donate his finals mvp from last year to ray allen and worship the ground he walks on for the turn-around that made three provided on his general perception.
Before the season I said the Heat would get tired and not make the finals. Only reason they did was because the east is so bad. I was get frustrated with how bad it was. This year the Heat should have been easy targets.
like i said, it has nothing to do with them being tired....they shoulda lost last year too
being exhausted is hardly an excuse for these guys, if kobe reached the finals 3 times in a row when he was 32-33 and isn't tired, than they have no excuses either.
and kobe didn't have another superstar in the perimeter where he can take plays off.
hell before artest came, kobe was still guarding the other teams best player and than getting double, tripled teams constantly on offense.
you can hardly do that with lebron or wade, because you can't leave one of them open, nor can you leave anyone at the PG or 4 because they can all shoot, not to mention bosh either.
its pretty damn easy when you have 3 franchise players on the team, you literally can't double if all 3 of them are on the floor. you have to do your best with one man coverage, which all 3 players can score on.
yeah they're great players. but i have no respect for them at all. so what if they won some titles, thats expected when 3 franchise players come together in their prime.
this. theyre well conditioned so hearing excuses like theyre tired is pathetic. the better team showed up. they handled the bobcats, nets and pacers well and no one said they looked tired until the spurs started smacking that ass around. i swear people just love making excuses for the heat and that shit gets old fast. theyre well tuned athletes, just simply put, they got beat by the better team.
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yeah i don't understand.
when we got swept by the mavs 2011 i didn't blame "tiredness" or "exhaustion"
the team was complacent, they didn't fight hard enough, and they thought the finals was going to be given to them that year, rather than fighting hard. Gasol disappeared that round and shannon didn't help either shooting all those contested 3's like he did all regular season that year.
not to mention steve blake was not a good fit on that team, i never wanted him. he's too much a of a traditional PG to play alongside kobe, and enough of a gunner to replace farmer as the PG to the bench mob. blake needed the ball in his hands to be truly effective, which SHOWED that season and the end of the the last season, he was never a PG to play within the triangle or play off ball.
i really think that was a main factor as well, farmar was never afraid to shoot and hit those clutch and timely shots, and he can GET TO the basket, we lost that with blake. decent shooter that he is, he's not a gunner, and in those first 2 years with us, he literally passed up wide open 3 pt shots that we don't have the luxury of passing up.
you can't pass up open 3pt looks like that if you're former champions trying to make a 3pt, you take what the defense gives you and blake passed on so many that first year he was with us and the next.
i can break down why the heat (in terms of what i think) failed and their roster was never a good fit anyways and that the extreme amount of talent covered some faults in the coaching and roster.
but i don't give two shits about the heat.
but in no way was any laker fan saying "oh they were tired", no we made 3 peats before should of been a 4peat if malone was healthy, so no we don't use "exhaustion" as an excuse.
the heat got out coached, and their roster was much more finely tuned and the players complimented each other.
like the knicks, i never thought melo and stat was ever a good combo, where is the P&R PG? you bring 2 jumpshooting forwards together, on being an iso friendly player and one that live and thrived off a P&R (in which if it wasn't for nash he wouldn't of been even considered a star) whats going to happen? it just doesn't fit.
the heat brought 3 face up stars, with their best back 2 the basket and jump shooter player in bosh (in terms of their natural game), and with both perimeter players being non jump shooters (yes lebron improved but in now way shape or form is that a go to move for him), their talents covered it up for them or a while. i almost thought even though my analysis was correct, they can't fail for the sheer talent they kept on piling up on each other.
Spol from day one should of gone, this guys a tool. no more of a coach than Mike brown or scott brooks.
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it's called making excuses because LeBron is in his prime and he's looking closer to melo/wade/drexler than he is to kobe/mj/magic
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Lmao. Niggas really going at Bron. People I argue with more than you assholes about LeBron can even admit LeBron did his thing but his teammates were gone missing.
And Loon3y, I wasn't defending who LeBron's beaten, I was criticizing who Kobe beat. I'll discredit them both for having beaten a weak league. But this Spurs team is head and shoulders better than the fucking New Jersey Nets or Iverson running in circles out there by himself gtfo lmao.
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LeBron was shook.....u could see it from the opening warm-up in game-1 where he was stuttering and shit
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And Loon3y, I wasn't defending who LeBron's beaten, I was criticizing who Kobe beat. I'll discredit them both for having beaten a weak league. But this Spurs team is head and shoulders better than the fucking New Jersey Nets or Iverson running in circles out there by himself gtfo lmao.
only problem is that we consistently beat the spurs on the way to our titles....lol. keep tryin tho
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yeah i don't understand.
when we got swept by the mavs 2011 i didn't blame "tiredness" or "exhaustion"
the team was complacent, they didn't fight hard enough, and they thought the finals was going to be given to them that year, rather than fighting hard. Gasol disappeared that round and shannon didn't help either shooting all those contested 3's like he did all regular season that year.
not to mention steve blake was not a good fit on that team, i never wanted him. he's too much a of a traditional PG to play alongside kobe, and enough of a gunner to replace farmer as the PG to the bench mob. blake needed the ball in his hands to be truly effective, which SHOWED that season and the end of the the last season, he was never a PG to play within the triangle or play off ball.
i really think that was a main factor as well, farmar was never afraid to shoot and hit those clutch and timely shots, and he can GET TO the basket, we lost that with blake. decent shooter that he is, he's not a gunner, and in those first 2 years with us, he literally passed up wide open 3 pt shots that we don't have the luxury of passing up.
you can't pass up open 3pt looks like that if you're former champions trying to make a 3pt, you take what the defense gives you and blake passed on so many that first year he was with us and the next.
i can break down why the heat (in terms of what i think) failed and their roster was never a good fit anyways and that the extreme amount of talent covered some faults in the coaching and roster.
but i don't give two shits about the heat.
but in no way was any laker fan saying "oh they were tired", no we made 3 peats before should of been a 4peat if malone was healthy, so no we don't use "exhaustion" as an excuse.
the heat got out coached, and their roster was much more finely tuned and the players complimented each other.
like the knicks, i never thought melo and stat was ever a good combo, where is the P&R PG? you bring 2 jumpshooting forwards together, on being an iso friendly player and one that live and thrived off a P&R (in which if it wasn't for nash he wouldn't of been even considered a star) whats going to happen? it just doesn't fit.
the heat brought 3 face up stars, with their best back 2 the basket and jump shooter player in bosh (in terms of their natural game), and with both perimeter players being non jump shooters (yes lebron improved but in now way shape or form is that a go to move for him), their talents covered it up for them or a while. i almost thought even though my analysis was correct, they can't fail for the sheer talent they kept on piling up on each other.
Spol from day one should of gone, this guys a tool. no more of a coach than Mike brown or scott brooks.
Well, I am not making excuses, it was the bases of my prediction at the beginning of the year, that the Heat would not make the NBA Finals. Only 2 other teams had made the NBA Finals 4 years in a row, the Celtics in the 60's and the Lakers in the 80's. What I did not expect was the east to suck so bad, that this beat up, old, worn out Heat team could still make it. But once they hit the Spurs, it was over. The Spurs were built to win titles, and Pop keeps his players well rested throughout the year for this reason. I'd say the main reason the Heat lost was coaching. I looked at the Pacers, and they couldn't beat the Heat because they had HORRIBLE coaching. The Pacers had everything to beat the Heat. The Thunder should have made the finals, but I am now convinced their coach is the modern day Mike Brown. Only looks good because he coaches KD.
Now don't get me wrong what I'm about to say. I actually watched the games and thought LeBron was actually good. But the notion that his team let him down is complete and utter BS. I regularly say LeBron is the best player today, but I have also said LeBron is more Dr. J than he is Jordan or Kobe. LeBron is a great player, but not a great leader. People like to play for him, but that might be part of the problem. To me, he comes off as wanting to have a good time and win with my buddies. Very few teammates of Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant would call them their buddies. LeBron doesn't know how to elevate his teammates to his level. And that's okay, that skill is lost on many greats. I also said in 2010 that the window of the Heat winning titles is much smaller than we realized then...
D-Wade is 28, meaning he has 4-5 prime years left, and that might be the window LeBron is working with,
or only 3 years.
And now that window is closed. I am calling it now, the Heat will not win the NBA Finals next year, even if LeBron stays, and they run the risk of not winning an NBA title for 3-4 years, and that's after MAJOR restructuring.
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i agree, nobodies denying lebronze is a great player and i don't know too much about Dr. J's leadership skills.
But MJ and Kobe thought of it as business, just going to war and make the best possible play to make a basket. its not about keeping teammates happy by feeding them the ball, its win at all costs and scoring when having the opportunity wether its through them or finding their teammates.
the kobe and shaq feud did elevate themselves a bit, trying to prove to the other who was better, but it came down to a bitter end in 04. it just wasn't managed correctly. although malone and payton became non factors, the chemistry was pretty bad, shaq wasn't even all that excited after fishers .4 shot.
but brooks and spol are int he mike brown pool.
but goddamn vogel seriously choked, he got shook about benching hibbert because of what happened the season before, which was something HE SHOULD of done this season.
scola was the best front court player for that team in that heat series. only one playing smart and calm. hibbert was no where to be seen and west with all his wisdom kept thinking that crashing into 4 heat players in the paint and throwing it up was the best play possible.
also i don't know what vogel was telling his team but IF LEBRON SWITCHES OFF PAUL GEORGE, YOU TELL HIM TO GO TO WORK. i was seriously appalled by this. the best perimeter defensive player switches off you and you get d-whistle , lewis, chalmers guarding you? you need to take advantage immediately
they lost possession by possession. vogel couldn't adjust his offensive schemes and lance stephenson was just over dribbling and turing the ball over like a fool.
i mean all in all the heat lost so I'm happy, but wow the pacers were beyond pathetic, one of the worst playoff performances I've see in a series, that series was incredibly boring and hard to watch.
Rockets - Out
Clippers - Out
Heat - How does leonards ass taste?
all in all I'm happy with the out come of this years playoffs, even if the spurs got another one and lakers didn't make it
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pacers been weaksauce since tradin granger...he was the voice of that team.
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pacers been weaksauce since tradin granger...he was the voice of that team.
yeah i feel like he was somewhat of a locker room leader. he sacrificed his scoring and starting and everyone seem to mesh better.
after he left, people just got more selfish.
and what were the pacers thinking? if it aint broke, don't fix it. his contract was over after the season anyways and they were on a finals run and they just boot somebody that was loyal to the team like that? someone that was willing to take a lesser role.
it was just foul and bird gets heat for this blunder.
not to mention granger was finally fitting into that coming off the bench role, and turner was playing high minutes running the offense in philly, and then transitioning him off the bench to basically become a slasher and 3pt shooter?
they should of used him to make plays, especially during the heat series. george hill is not a PG, hardly a combo PG at beast that leans heavily towards the SG side. and it showed.
vogel worked hard with this team, but it means nothing if you can't make timely adjustments.