West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite on August 08, 2014, 02:48:56 PM
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CD sales are hard to come by these days, and they put out albums of songs that were recorded nearly 20 years ago. Being a die-hard fan I bought a couple of them LBC Crew and Snoop's Lost Sessions..... but you can't make much money off a few die-hard Death Row fans posting on the dubcc...
...I give them props for putting this stuff out, but I don't think they turned any profit
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sure because they never paid the artists any royalties
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selling albums of has been never been artist i think not
i dont think even Europe could have saved wide asleep ;D
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don't think so.
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Wideawake made there 18 million back from the deathrow catalogue i got the info from chad kiser the guy who worked for wideawake. But they never paid the artists either.
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Their whole set-up was poor. I don't think it was putting out old music that was the problem, though it is a "niche" market but I think when they tried to downplay the quality control issues with the Snoop project, they started to lose.
The thing with me is you've purchased the entire catalog for Death Row that includes established catalog, all the photographs and art work, imagery, likeness, and publishing rights and all your energy is in pushing out old songs on CD that you are too cheap to polish so they sound good? I think if they were smart, they would have concentrated on licensing rights because that music still has huge commercial value. They would have put out updated "collector's editions" of all the best-selling albums like the original Row did when they moved their distribution over to D3/Koch and maybe worked in a few of those rare and unreleased collections but the way they dropped a lot of that music was so exploitive and cheap. It's not hard to see why they went from getting end-cap promotion at Best Buy chains with exclusive tie-in versions to not even being carried in their stores.
They put out three releases and then they more or less became albums you could only get in online stores. Trying to build a profitable business venture off vault material was never a smart move.
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Who owns death row right now ?
And any Chance the New Owners put something out ?
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E 1 owns the deathrow catalogue i dont think there will be any releases this year .
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So are they just gonna let the tons of material rot in the vault ? :'( :-X :-[ :-\
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E 1 owns the deathrow catalogue i dont think there will be any releases this year .
E1 know how to turn a profit tho. Hope to see something next year at least (even tho I suspect its gonna be more geared at T-shirt sales etc)
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I hope they start releasing and emptying the vaults soon. There must by tons of unreleased dope songs by snoop, pac, dre, daz, kurupt and all the others...
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There's not that much left in the vaults according to many sources who worked over there. They can't release any Pac without Amaru signing off on it. They can't release any Dre without his permission. If previous releases are any indication, there does not appear to be much quality Snoop and DPG music floating around. I doubt E1 is going to invest in putting out a whole lot of "vault" material.
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made there money bac lol. why are they trying the dump the company then? E1 only has the rights for the previous releases only, no unreleased.
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The purchase was a huge loss for them, and everything was mismanaged.
The quality of the finished product wasn't nearly as professional as it should've been.
The physical products (meaning actual CDs and not just the digital downloads) grew more and more limited, eventually just disappearing.
Half of the surviving artists didn't endorse their own WideAwake DR material.
The most valuable material (meaning the sought after stuff from people like Pac and Dre) required clearance from outside of their company.
John Hyland supposedly blew a ton of their money on bullshit.
I don't see how they turned a profit, especially when the ownership got put back on the market for even less money. Plus the stuff they did release didn't really cause a blip on the Billboard radar. I would be surprised if all of WideAwakes releases collectively sold 100k units.
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i kept my copy of Doggy Bag sealed. wish i had done the same with the others.
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I don't see how they turned a profit, especially when the ownership got put back on the market for even less money. Plus the stuff they did release didn't really cause a blip on the Billboard radar. I would be surprised if all of WideAwakes releases collectively sold 100k units.
Noooo way. Their best selling album was Lost Session by Snoop and it sold somethin around 30k i think. The rest of albums were like max 1000 units?
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Their best selling album was Lost Session by Snoop and it sold somethin around 30k i think.
That's not true - "Chronic Re-Lit" was their most successful release selling around 50k.
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Probably some app/web advertising revinue too
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yeah you guys gotta remember they get royalties off the old catalogue shit too. well, not the 2pac part lol
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Their best selling album was Lost Session by Snoop and it sold somethin around 30k i think.
That's not true - "Chronic Re-Lit" was their most successful release selling around 50k.
Wow srsly? Man 50k is some seriosuly numbers. This showing that they should just re-release old albums with bonus tracks/bonus DVD. For example I think that Doggystyle re-release with Gz Up Hoez Down, Doggystyle and some few other unreleased tracks would sell more then Lost Session + there would be less work instead of makin whole new record.
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I think I bought every release they put out. Personally I am happy with what I have. I bet there is only crap left in the vault besides ant dre or PAC material.
The only cd I want that I never had a chance to pick up, or find for that matter was the Chronic re-lit edited version with Smoke On. Anyone ever see that for sale?
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I think I bought every release they put out. Personally I am happy with what I have. I bet there is only crap left in the vault besides ant dre or PAC material.
The only cd I want that I never had a chance to pick up, or find for that matter was the Chronic re-lit edited version with Smoke On. Anyone ever see that for sale?
That version was Best Buy exclusive
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I think I bought every release they put out. Personally I am happy with what I have. I bet there is only crap left in the vault besides ant dre or PAC material.
The only cd I want that I never had a chance to pick up, or find for that matter was the Chronic re-lit edited version with Smoke On. Anyone ever see that for sale?
i picked it up solely for the smoke on song 8)
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I think I bought every release they put out. Personally I am happy with what I have. I bet there is only crap left in the vault besides ant dre or PAC material.
The only cd I want that I never had a chance to pick up, or find for that matter was the Chronic re-lit edited version with Smoke On. Anyone ever see that for sale?
That version was Best Buy exclusive
Best buy, or was it walmart?
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walmart
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Could Swear it was best buy
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Their best selling album was Lost Session by Snoop and it sold somethin around 30k i think.
That's not true - "Chronic Re-Lit" was their most successful release selling around 50k.
Wow srsly? Man 50k is some seriosuly numbers. This showing that they should just re-release old albums with bonus tracks/bonus DVD. For example I think that Doggystyle re-release with Gz Up Hoez Down, Doggystyle and some few other unreleased tracks would sell more then Lost Session + there would be less work instead of makin whole new record.
This^
And with extensive liner notes. If the bootleggers have all the recording dates and production credits surely the official label can dig the info up themselves
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I hope we see some releases in 2015 and re issue The back catalogue doggfood etc.
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Be sure Death Row catalog still generates money. E1, who bought it, got 70% of their sales that were digital last year, also helped by Death Row music library. If nobody download or buy copies of WIDEawake releases, be sure Death Row classics generate $ all around the world. E1 digital sales was +11% higher after the acquisition of Death Row catalog, "All Eyez On Me" is the album the most downloaded.
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i think i remember hearing in a interview that all of the actual reels are in a climate controlled storage place in Hollywood somewhere.. When they went to go get the reels, every reel had 20 years worth HUGE storage fees on it, So they had the place do some cheap mp3 rips from some for cataloging purposes, so they could go threw them and go back to only pay for the reels they wanted..well there cheap asses never returned and just released the MP3s the storage place had given them..
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Be sure Death Row catalog still generates money. E1, who bought it, got 70% of their sales that were digital last year, also helped by Death Row music library. If nobody download or buy copies of WIDEawake releases, be sure Death Row classics generate $ all around the world. E1 digital sales was +11% higher after the acquisition of Death Row catalog, "All Eyez On Me" is the album the most downloaded.
But remember that generating money doesn't necessarily equate to generating profit. Plus we're talking more about WideAwake, not E1.