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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: WestSideDon on August 24, 2014, 04:56:34 PM
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So just asked myself this question today while i was bumping some of the death row lost sessions & chronic re lit tracks.
On wikipedia it lists "Gz Up Hoez Down", "Tha Next Episode", "Doggystyle", "The Root Of All Evil" & "Every Single Day" as leftovers/cut tracks.
But there are more tracks which could have been intended for doggystyle at one point, like "Smoke On" from "The Chronic Re-Lit" or more recently that unreleased track "Every Dogg Has His Day" with Kurupt (since it was also produced by Dre there is a possibility that it was once intended for the album, maybe ts not the finished/final version that leaked) and some more....
So what do you think ? Any more tracks that come to mind ? Would be nice if we could create a lil list here....
Doggystyle Leftover Tracks:
-"Tha Next Episode" (feat. Dr. Dre)
-"Gz Up, Hoez Down" (feat. Hug)
-"Doggystyle" (feat. Jewell & George Clinton)
-"Every Single Day" (feat. Kurupt & Nate Dogg)
-"The Root Of All Evil (Outro)" (feat. Teena Marie)
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i think smoke on was recorded in the chronic era
and poor young dave was post doggystyle incase anyone mentions it
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don't know for sure but maybe a couple of these
Fallin Asleep on Death Row
Eat A Dicc
Doggystyle
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I would doubt that 'Every Dogg Has His Day' was intended for the album. It's clearly just two freestyled verses by Kurupt and Snoop, and the beat is not fleshed out at all, and not in keeping with Dr. Dre's sound for the album.
'Eat A Dicc' was probably going to be put on there, but it obviously morphed into both 'Doggy Dogg World' and 'Serial Killa'.
Other than the songs listed already, I can't think of any more leftovers at the moment.
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I would doubt that 'Every Dogg Has His Day' was intended for the album. It's clearly just two freestyled verses by Kurupt and Snoop, and the beat is not fleshed out at all, and not in keeping with Dr. Dre's sound for the album.
'Eat A Dicc' was probably going to be put on there, but it obviously morphed into both 'Doggy Dogg World' and 'Serial Killa'.
Other than the songs listed already, I can't think of any more leftovers at the moment.
Yeah, but thats why i said that maybe a finished version was intended for the album. Maybe Dre had done this "demo/unfinished" version of the beat and snoop & kurupt just experimented and freestyled on it a bit, and dre was about to work on the beat to finish it/make it fit with the albums sound and snoop & kurupt were also about to write down some verses but somehow it didn't happen/didn't leak in this version...
And @Hack
How you know that "Nigga Named Dave" wasn't intended for the album ? I've heard so much about this being an early version of MWTC with the DeathAfterVisualizingEternity hinting at this, and Snoop sounds and flows great on it, could only imagine it was made during the chronic sessions but i still somehow believe this song had something to do with Doggystyle...
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Has anyone got a CDQ of that track Snoop did with LV?
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Has anyone got a CDQ of that track Snoop did with LV?
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I agree with pretty much all of the mentioned songs in here
except "Every Dogg Has His Day" a.k.a. "Misery 2", that song was recorded in 1994 so doesn't fit into the time scheme
another one to mention is the unleaked "God Don't Like Ugly", it's a gospel style song
it has been confirmed by Snoop interviews and the DR court docs
and "Doggystyle" is of course a leftover (it's the title track, duh) been confirmed in a Tony Green interview too (who is the singer on the song, not George Clinton which he was confused with alot of times)
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except "Every Dogg Has His Day" a.k.a. "Misery 2", that song was recorded in 1994 so doesn't fit into the time scheme
Interesting info, where you got this from ?
another one to mention is the unleaked "God Don't Like Ugly", it's a gospel style song
it has been confirmed by Snoop interviews and the DR court docs
Never heard of that before, but I don't think a gospel like song was intended for Doggystyle, absolutely wouldn't fit with the sound of the album.
and "Doggystyle" is of course a leftover (it's the title track, duh) been confirmed in a Tony Green interview too (who is the singer on the song, not George Clinton which he was confused with alot of times)
Sure it's not George Clinton on it ? Considering Snoops good relationship with Clinton and also his status as one of the godfathers of funk music, i doubt he would prefer someone else over one of his idols...
And for something different:
Can anyone here tell me something about the song "Gangsta Shit" with Kurupt that was on the "Dayz On Death Row" bootleg ?
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There are always leftovers but I wouldn't trust Wiki.
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except "Every Dogg Has His Day" a.k.a. "Misery 2", that song was recorded in 1994 so doesn't fit into the time scheme
Interesting info, where you got this from ?
the lyrics, duh
Snoop: "Yeah, 1-9-9-4..."
and "Doggystyle" is of course a leftover (it's the title track, duh) been confirmed in a Tony Green interview too (who is the singer on the song, not George Clinton which he was confused with alot of times)
Sure it's not George Clinton on it ? Considering Snoops good relationship with Clinton and also his status as one of the godfathers of funk music, i doubt he would prefer someone else over one of his idols...
Yes, very sure, George Clinton only did the intro for Snoop on the album
you should really find out who Tony Green is if you don't know him
Tony Green worked with The Dramatics back in the day, he played bass on alot of Death Row songs
I think he was actually the guy who got George Clinton in contact with Dre/Snoop
he did some great interviews lately
there are some on the bomb1st youtube channel
http://youtu.be/ncn6lN0brXA
jmix also did one with him, you should find his videos on the right side on youtube (his channel is jessesurratt)
and there was some guy from Detroit who did a video interview with him
in one of those interviews he mentions that it is actually him on the "Doggystyle" song not George Clinton
and that alot of people mistake him for George on that one
And for something different:
Can anyone here tell me something about the song "Gangsta Shit" with Kurupt that was on the "Dayz On Death Row" bootleg ?
Gangsta Shit (Do Unto Others)
Produced by DJ Quik
Recorded in 1998
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I know who Tony Green is but until now i only knew about him playing the Bass on almost all of the dr releases and his involvement with the dramatics, but didn't know tha he also sung on songs such as this one.
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There are always leftovers but I wouldn't trust Wiki.
if there are no sources for the information you are right sir, anybody can write something on wiki
but in that case wikipedia is correct
"Gz Up Hoez Down" was on the first press
"Tha Next Episode" was on early tracklists
"Doggystyle" been confirmed in interviews
"The Root Of All Evil" is the unreleased outro, the trackname was known before the song actually came out
"Every Single Day" snoop said in the radio interview where this was played for the first time that it was an early song for his first album
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I know who Tony Green is but until now i only knew about him playing the Bass on almost all of the dr releases and his involvement with the dramatics, but didn't know tha he also sung on songs such as this one.
that's the only one I know of that he actually sung on
he's also one of the guys who talk on the intro of "Smoke On"
think he did some more background vocals on Doggystyle songs, can't remember right now
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could someone send it for me?
nd for something different:
Can anyone here tell me something about the song "Gangsta Shit" with Kurupt that was on the "Dayz On Death Row" bootleg ?
Gangsta Shit (Do Unto Others)
Produced by DJ Quik
Recorded in 1998
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The dudes who hold all the recording dates for the death row sessions would be able to tell you *exactly* what's what
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The dudes who hold all the recording dates for the death row sessions would be able to tell you *exactly* what's what
And who are those guys ?
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Doggystyle could have been even better with all these tracks...crazy
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Doggystyle could have been even better with all these tracks...crazy
The thing is the album is just about the right length and doesn't outstay its welcome. If the assorted extra tracks were put on there (with the exception of 'G'z Up, Hoez Down', which is really good), then it would have suffered, much like most other Snoop albums, which have way too many tracks on them.
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Doggystyle could have been even better with all these tracks...crazy
The thing is the album is just about the right length and doesn't outstay its welcome. If the assorted extra tracks were put on there (with the exception of 'G'z Up, Hoez Down', which is really good), then it would have suffered, much like most other Snoop albums, which have way too many tracks on them.
Don't think so. The thing is on snoops latest albums there were alway a bunch of unnecessary filler tracks. But the songs were discussing here are all classic 5/5 snoop doggy dogg death row shit. If you play doggystyle today it alway feels like time is flying, and if you would include more of those classic songs it would still be the same thing. If all the songs on an album are straight, dope 5/5 tracks it might aswell be longer, would be absolutely no problem. Filler songs are something completely different.
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Yeah Dr. Dre always said Doggystyle was unfinished and they were pressured into rushing to finish it. That's why they did that 48 hour session to just wrap it up with what they had, add the skits to it, & mix it. I could imagine if the album would've came out to Dre's standards, would've been even more of a classic.
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Yeah Dr. Dre always said Doggystyle was unfinished and they were pressured into rushing to finish it. That's why they did that 48 hour session to just wrap it up with what they had, add the skits to it, & mix it. I could imagine if the album would've came out to Dre's standards, would've been even more of a classic.
i just wish Every single day and Next Episode had made the cut.
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Yeah Dr. Dre always said Doggystyle was unfinished and they were pressured into rushing to finish it. That's why they did that 48 hour session to just wrap it up with what they had, add the skits to it, & mix it. I could imagine if the album would've came out to Dre's standards, would've been even more of a classic.
i just wish Every single day and Next Episode had made the cut.
Yeah. Doggystyle contained some various cuts, but the final album was more a sequel, a "compilation" with a sound too much similar to The Chronic. Chris Taylor mixed a lot of tracks in order to quickly finish the album. What about the tracklist ? "G'z Up, Hoes Down" (sample authorization) or "The Next Episod" (forgotten ?) ... I prefered Tha Dogg Pound album, way better, more polished and actually more original than Snoop debut album.
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Doggystyle could have been even better with all these tracks...crazy
The thing is the album is just about the right length and doesn't outstay its welcome. If the assorted extra tracks were put on there (with the exception of 'G'z Up, Hoez Down', which is really good), then it would have suffered, much like most other Snoop albums, which have way too many tracks on them.
Don't think so. The thing is on snoops latest albums there were alway a bunch of unnecessary filler tracks. But the songs were discussing here are all classic 5/5 snoop doggy dogg death row shit. If you play doggystyle today it alway feels like time is flying, and if you would include more of those classic songs it would still be the same thing. If all the songs on an album are straight, dope 5/5 tracks it might aswell be longer, would be absolutely no problem. Filler songs are something completely different.
Hasn't that got something to do with Snoops fascination with the numbers 18 and 19?
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Yeah Dr. Dre always said Doggystyle was unfinished and they were pressured into rushing to finish it. That's why they did that 48 hour session to just wrap it up with what they had, add the skits to it, & mix it. I could imagine if the album would've came out to Dre's standards, would've been even more of a classic.
i just wish Every single day and Next Episode had made the cut.
yep...can we at least get these at CD quality?
Yeah Dr. Dre always said Doggystyle was unfinished and they were pressured into rushing to finish it. That's why they did that 48 hour session to just wrap it up with what they had, add the skits to it, & mix it. I could imagine if the album would've came out to Dre's standards, would've been even more of a classic.
i just wish Every single day and Next Episode had made the cut.
Yeah. Doggystyle contained some various cuts, but the final album was more a sequel, a "compilation" with a sound too much similar to The Chronic. Chris Taylor mixed a lot of tracks in order to quickly finish the album. What about the tracklist ? "G'z Up, Hoes Down" (sample authorization) or "The Next Episod" (forgotten ?) ... I prefered Tha Dogg Pound album, way better, more polished and actually more original than Snoop debut album.
I prefer Dogg Food as well but I can't say its a better album than Doggystyle...Snoop had nothing but 5/5 tracks and The Dogg Pound while longer does have some filler type tracks towards the end...That album could have been better as well with the inclusion of "Don't Stop" and "Started"
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Hasn't that got something to do with Snoops fascination with the numbers 18 and 19?
Actually I believe its also something with the numbers 21-23 or to put it all together the numbers 18-23. Just look at snoops other albums and you will definetely notice it. "Tha Doggfather", "Da Gam...", "Top Dogg", "Tha Blue Carpet Treatment", "Ego Trippin" & "Doggumentary" all had 21 Tracks on the regular versions. ("Paid Tha Cost... also if you include the bonus track) On the deluxe versions there are sometimes 22 or 23 songs on these albums. "Tha Last Meal" had 19 & R&G had 20 (21 on the some special version again). I can't exactly recall if I read it somehwere here or on a different website but it got something to do with snoops neighbourhood in long beach with the names of the different blocks around where he grew up. I think it also got something to do with his gang rollin 20 crips. It's also in many of his lyrics and song titles like "21 Jump Street" for example. Maybe I can find that post/article again....
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Still couldnt find the article but i'll try on.
Anyone here maybe knows something about this ?
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Still couldnt find the article but i'll try on.
Anyone here maybe knows something about this ?
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Still couldnt find the article but i'll try on.
Anyone here maybe knows something about this ?
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Still couldnt find the article but i'll try on.
Anyone here maybe knows something about this ?
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Anyone here knows about any more leftover songs or possible leftovers ?
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don't think there's much left
there are not that many leftovers at all because Doggystyle was a "rushed" album
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I know but still, I believe there are also songs that never even leaked that were intended for this album....
I remember an interview with snoop where he said they recorded lots of songs during the dr days, but not all of them made the album/were released/leaked...
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I know but still, I believe there are also songs that never even leaked that were intended for this album....
I remember an interview with snoop where he said they recorded lots of songs during the dr days, but not all of them made the album/were released/leaked...
so anymore songs we can add to the list ?
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don't know for sure but maybe a couple of these
Fallin Asleep on Death Row
Eat A Dicc
Doggystyle
eat a dicc has to be an early version of what came out as Serial Killers, i honestly like eat a dicc a bit more than SK
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eat a dicc early
what came out
i honestly like
eat a dicc a bit more
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eat a dicc has to be an early version of what came out as Serial Killers, i honestly like eat a dicc a bit more than SK
same here, even though the beat is pretty simple it knocks like a muthafucka
I'm the smoothest, coolest, rudest you know, on a kamikaze mission
"Ooh, if I could be like Snoop" keep wishin, listen
With my ballz in yo jawz make room to put my dick in
8)
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eat a dicc has to be an early version of what came out as Serial Killers, i honestly like eat a dicc a bit more than SK
same here, even though the beat is pretty simple it knocks like a muthafucka
agreed
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don't know for sure but maybe a couple of these
Fallin Asleep on Death Row
Eat A Dicc
Doggystyle
eat a dicc has to be an early version of what came out as Serial Killers, i honestly like eat a dicc a bit more than SK
Everybody always talks about this song beeing an early version of serial killa, but nobody talks about the first verse beeing his verse from "Doggy Dogg World"....
Still a dope song though, sick flow and nice lyrics 8)
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Do you think there are maybe some unreleased kurupt & snoop tracks in the vault ?
Always dope to hear them together and on Doggystyle Kurupt brought his a game on his guest verses...
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Do you think there are maybe some unreleased kurupt & snoop tracks in the vault ?
Always dope to hear them together and on Doggystyle Kurupt brought his a game on his guest verses...