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Title: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 27, 2014, 05:53:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/C2pYNk-Gxxk

Christ, this is brutal. I'm not even excited for this album in November lol.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: AlerG on August 27, 2014, 10:01:27 AM
I listened a couple times in a row, it's meh. Sounds like a MMLP2 leftover. I can see what he was going for but the beat isn't all that impressive, the chorus sounds kinda stale, and his verses show promise at times but also feel stagnant if that makes any sense. Under par for Eminem, but a 6/10 overall. 
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 27, 2014, 06:07:44 PM
He actually said in an interview after MMLP2 he recorded a shitload of material and cut it down to the final tracklist. So wouldn't shock me if this album is just all those leftovers lol.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Lucifuge on August 28, 2014, 12:01:23 AM
He fell the fuck of
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: aerroc on August 28, 2014, 03:25:48 AM
fuck em he fell the fuck off en his clone doing better music

https://www.youtube.com/v/9jgb0nNqgnk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jgb0nNqgnk)
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: sofdark on August 28, 2014, 07:05:02 AM
I guess the project coming out in November is more of an Lost Tape of the whole Shady records. I'd prefer just unreleased material of Eminem though.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 28, 2014, 10:44:37 AM
fuck em he fell the fuck off en his clone doing better music

https://www.youtube.com/v/9jgb0nNqgnk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jgb0nNqgnk)

Lmfao. That shitty song is better than this awful song.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on September 01, 2014, 11:14:55 PM
Damn.. I don't know what the fucc you guys are talking about.... I LOVE THIS SONG!!

...I expect Cham not to have any taste in music, he is a kid, and by the time he came of age Soldier Boy was dropping hits.  But AlerG, you should know better than that, and recognize this as yet another high quality Eminem track.

...And this is coming from someone who didn't even like the Recovery album.  I consider all of Em's work from 99-2002 to be classic, but I didn't like Encore, Relapse, or Recovery.  So don't think I'm just signing off on anything Em does.  I wasn't expecting much from this song especially reading the reviews above... BUT YOU MUTHERFUCKAZ GOT IT WAY WRONG ON THIS JOINT... the beat is simple but highly effective, the chorus is mesmerizing, and Eminem is Eminem.

by the way, this ain't no leftover.. this is the real deal!  8)
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: GangstaBoogy on September 02, 2014, 12:06:53 AM
Jesus Christ why is this guy always crying about the same shit? Fuck man stick to making shit like Rap God, Groundhog Day, Baby, etc. He showed he still has it on those songs but these fuckin "my life was so hard" auto-biography songs are becoming too common from him.

Props for that "I'd rather make a Not Afraid 2 than make another We Made You" line.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Blood$ on September 02, 2014, 08:55:39 AM
99.3% of current Eminem fans are white females in the ages of 16-23

the other .6% are basically fags, and the remainder is just people who have "different" tastes  :laugh:
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: AlerG on September 02, 2014, 11:27:34 AM
Damn.. I don't know what the fucc you guys are talking about.... I LOVE THIS SONG!!

...I expect Cham not to have any taste in music, he is a kid, and by the time he came of age Soldier Boy was dropping hits.  But AlerG, you should know better than that, and recognize this as yet another high quality Eminem track.

...And this is coming from someone who didn't even like the Recovery album.  I consider all of Em's work from 99-2002 to be classic, but I didn't like Encore, Relapse, or Recovery.  So don't think I'm just signing off on anything Em does.  I wasn't expecting much from this song especially reading the reviews above... BUT YOU MUTHERFUCKAZ GOT IT WAY WRONG ON THIS JOINT... the beat is simple but highly effective, the chorus is mesmerizing, and Eminem is Eminem.

by the way, this ain't no leftover.. this is the real deal!  8)

I thought the majority of recovery and mmlp2 is better than this song. It has it's moments but overall falls flat and lacks replay value. Seeing how the song was released over a week ago and it only has 4+ million views it also seems to lack replay value for many others. That's a lot of views but not for a new eminen song.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 02, 2014, 03:27:27 PM
Brian, that's embarrassing. Complete trash, flow is terrible, son is singing and his content is pretty much telling us he has recycle songs because he just doesn't know what to do anymore lol.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 02, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
Brian, that's embarrassing. Complete trash, flow is terrible, son is singing and his content is pretty much telling us he has recycle songs because he just doesn't know what to do anymore lol.


you know i clicked this thread hoping it meant "eminem featuring slaUGHTERHOUSE"   smh
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: HighEyeCue on September 02, 2014, 04:03:44 PM
got to be the worst "lead single" from an Em album I have heard yet
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 02, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
got to be the worst "lead single" from an Em album I have heard yet

I actually just found out it isn't an Eminem album. It's a Shady Records complication album. Which means Slaughterhouse,Yelawolf, D-12 and Royce collabs with Em. Probably for the better lol. I couldn't listen to a full new entire Eminem album.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on September 02, 2014, 04:42:36 PM
Brian, that's embarrassing. Complete trash, flow is terrible, son is singing and his content is pretty much telling us he has recycle songs because he just doesn't know what to do anymore lol.

I wonder if the same people hating on this track are the same people that hated on Slim Shady LP when it came out and then years later started saying it was a classic....  

...not to that degree of course because Eminem from 98-2003 is clearly not the same as Eminem from 2004-present, but you get my point.

Em is often ahead of the curve and he challenges his listeners, so I think this is a case where the fans aren't up to the challenge.  ...Obviously there are other cases like the Relapse album where Em was simple not himself
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on September 02, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
Em is often ahead of the curve and he challenges his listeners, so I think this is a case where the fans aren't up to the challenge.

No.

The thing is, musically this isn't ahead of the curve in any respect. The instrumental reminds me of a lot of indie pop records from around 2006-now. The fact that it's hip hop incorporating these types of sounds also isn't very fresh or mindblowing, Kid Cudi has had a similar style of instrumental for years.

The hook isn't bad, Sia has a great voice and had this been a track with only her on it, it would be a lot better. Reminds me of Monster, which was catchy and also would have probably been better as just a Rhianna record. Either Em or his label are so consumed with making a hit selling record that they are willing to foresake the original hip hop audience in lieu of the crowd of fans: young females. Let's be honest they dictate what is played on the radio and Eminem is pathetic enough to fall in line, be a good boy and rap over whatever bullshit the label asks him to.

The fact Brian is that you finding the record so fascinating and wonderful is telling of you in or two ways:
1) You have such a narrow perspective and largely ignored the changes in music throughout the last decade that you didn't notice any burgeoning styles until one your few favorites adopted them later down the line.

2) You are such a fanboy you will cling to everything that comes out of Eminem's mouth (interpret that how you will). It's this type of blind devotion that is usually displayed in cult members and shows a lack of confidence or intelligence in the follower. Hey, how do you feel about your religion?

Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on September 02, 2014, 05:20:29 PM

The fact Brian is that you finding the record so fascinating and wonderful is telling of you in or two ways:
1) You have such a narrow perspective and largely ignored the changes in music throughout the last decade that you didn't notice any burgeoning styles until one your few favorites adopted them later down the line.

2) You are such a fanboy you will cling to everything that comes out of Eminem's mouth (interpret that how you will). It's this type of blind devotion that is usually displayed in cult members and shows a lack of confidence or intelligence in the follower. Hey, how do you feel about your religion?
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1)  has some truth to it, because I am ol' school in my tastes when it comes to hip-hop (and life in general for that matter) I'm still stuck in the summer of 96'—before Pac (and hip-hop for that matter—died.  And why would I bother bumpin new shit when there are still so many albums from the golden age that I have yet to check out.  Shit... I haven't even bumped an EPMD album yet, so why would I check out some wack shit like 2 CHainz just because it's new??  My time would be better spent diggin into old work from EPMD or Large Professor or even Chino XL or EASki, KRS, Channel Live, MC Ren, and so on....

2) If that's the case then how come you can not find any thread on here in which I was biggin up Eminem's work from the Encore album up through Recovery??  I was the one on here saying that Eminem was not himself on Relapse when cats like Rod were sayin that album was the truth.  I have since been proven right as Em himself has admitted that Relapse was bullshit.... Before Encore I was always Em's biggest supporter on here.  The old threads prove all this.  So obviously this is not a case of me just blindly supporting anything Eminem does.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Black Excellence on September 02, 2014, 06:23:56 PM
em needs to just fall back t.i. finna take over this fall.  8)
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: AlerG on September 03, 2014, 11:10:31 AM
em needs to just fall back t.i. finna take over this fall.  8)

Sorry man but that mediocre tune, I'd feel generous to call it mediocre.

Anyway I feel like em was hungry again on recovery (although a little more commercial), followed by mmlp2 where many times he showed incredible flows and lyrical patterns. I'm just not feeling this new joint.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 03, 2014, 11:23:05 AM
Brian, that's embarrassing. Complete trash, flow is terrible, son is singing and his content is pretty much telling us he has recycle songs because he just doesn't know what to do anymore lol.

I wonder if the same people hating on this track are the same people that hated on Slim Shady LP when it came out and then years later started saying it was a classic....  

...not to that degree of course because Eminem from 98-2003 is clearly not the same as Eminem from 2004-present, but you get my point.

Em is often ahead of the curve and he challenges his listeners, so I think this is a case where the fans aren't up to the challenge.  ...Obviously there are other cases like the Relapse album where Em was simple not himself

This is a Recovery leftover and that album was terrible. I look back and hate that album more by the year lol.

Walk towards the light, bruh. It's over for him. All he has left are the ignorant, deaf fans like yourself who refuse to call anything with an Eminem stamp on it wack.
Title: Re: Eminem featuring Sia - "Guts Over Fear"
Post by: Remedy360 on September 03, 2014, 11:58:23 AM
Eh, it's ok. What loses me the most is the hook, I'm perfectly fine with pop-sounding women doing hooks, this just doesn't do it for me. Em wasn't off the charts or anything but he wasn't complete ass or anything like people are saying.