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Title: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 29, 2014, 11:31:24 AM
both these guys solo careers are pretty sub par to their talents


who's career as a solo rapper is more disappointing?
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: doggfather on September 29, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
jada, meth got at least 1 great album (tical).
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: K-MACC on September 29, 2014, 11:40:09 AM
jada, meth got at least 1 great album (tical).
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Blood$ on September 29, 2014, 11:40:43 AM
Method Man by a long shot, only good albums he dropped were Tical and 4:20

all of Jadakiss' were criminally under-rated although his last joint did have too many features, how anyone can say Kiss The Game Goodbye or Kiss Of Death weren't dope is beyond me
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Blood$ on September 29, 2014, 11:46:57 AM
also keep in mind Method Man dropped after classic Wu group and solo albums where as The LOX albums were just ok

Method Man had bigger shoes to fill which he failed at doing and Jadakiss elevated his group after he dropped his first solo
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Remedy360 on September 29, 2014, 12:18:11 PM
Method Man, I can fuck with his solo stuff to a larger extent than Jada. You could also throw Fabolous into that conversation as far as being very talented but failing to really put it all together.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: HighEyeCue on September 29, 2014, 03:52:57 PM
I dont think Jada has dropped an album as good as Tical...but the biggest letdown for me was Meth's second album
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on September 29, 2014, 03:54:00 PM
I dont think Jada has dropped an album as good as Tical...but the biggest letdown for me was Meth's second album

even though Judgement Day and MAke Ups To Breakups are the shit?
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Blood$ on September 29, 2014, 03:55:07 PM
I dont think Jada has dropped an album as good as Tical...but the biggest letdown for me was Meth's second album

Kiss Of Death is more enjoyable and not as boring for me but Tical flowed more cohesively and had a darker feel to it
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: HighEyeCue on September 29, 2014, 04:01:34 PM
I dont think Jada has dropped an album as good as Tical...but the biggest letdown for me was Meth's second album

even though Judgement Day and MAke Ups To Breakups are the shit?

The album was kinda like Doggfather to me...some dope tracks indeed but kinda uneven
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Minkaveli on September 29, 2014, 05:22:12 PM
Method Man by a long shot, only good albums he dropped were Tical and 4:20

all of Jadakiss' were criminally under-rated although his last joint did have too many features, how anyone can say Kiss The Game Goodbye or Kiss Of Death weren't dope is beyond me

Spot on post.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Black Excellence on September 29, 2014, 06:04:17 PM
kiss of death was fire.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 30, 2014, 06:40:53 AM
Yeah, I'd say Method Man due to the fact he was supposed to produce classic albums himself beyond the Wu.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on September 30, 2014, 10:29:58 AM
also keep in mind Method Man dropped after classic Wu group and solo albums where as The LOX albums were just ok

Method Man had bigger shoes to fill which he failed at doing and Jadakiss elevated his group after he dropped his first solo

very well said!

I feel Method Man had a bigger solo career. He had Tical, He had the Joint with Redman ( ok thats a duo) He was more present in the public/mtv/popular culture.

He also ventured in movies and television.

Method Man
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: soopa-man on October 01, 2014, 10:46:49 AM
I think jadakiss albums espeacially his first joint is boring and is reaching too hard for that commercial success. And the joints he had on there that weren't commercial had weak hooks or corny ones like "I'm a Gansta" "what you ride for" (weka south attempt) and the joint
With snoop was weak too (the hook and beat was just simple) the neptunes joint was a straight dud "knock yourself out" they couldn't come up with any thing better than that?
It's like he bought the throw cheap joints from big producers the timbaland joint was boring, swizz didn't give him anything knockin

But damn if he stuck with alchemist it would have been speacial "feel me" "we
Gon make it" classic feel to them ...


Method man I can bump his shit and he has blackout and the tical series wasn't bad
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 03, 2014, 05:18:18 PM
tical 2000 had some hot joints on it
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Blood$ on October 04, 2014, 08:00:07 AM
I think jadakiss albums espeacially his first joint is boring and is reaching too hard for that commercial success. And the joints he had on there that weren't commercial had weak hooks or corny ones like "I'm a Gansta" "what you ride for" (weka south attempt) and the joint
With snoop was weak too (the hook and beat was just simple) the neptunes joint was a straight dud "knock yourself out" they couldn't come up with any thing better than that?
It's like he bought the throw cheap joints from big producers the timbaland joint was boring, swizz didn't give him anything knockin

But damn if he stuck with alchemist it would have been speacial "feel me" "we
Gon make it" classic feel to them ...


Method man I can bump his shit and he has blackout and the tical series wasn't bad

"Knock Yourself Out" was a classic, club still goes crazy to this day when that joint comes on at least down here

Blackout isn't a Method Man solo so it doesn't count in this discussion
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: doggfather on October 05, 2014, 12:04:01 AM
tical 2000 had some hot joints on it

yes, but the whole album is weak.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Blood$ on October 06, 2014, 08:12:39 AM
tical 2000 had some hot joints on it

yes, but the whole album is weak.

reminds me of Big Pun's second album and Nastradamus... few cool joints scattered in a big bag of shit
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 06, 2014, 12:18:59 PM
tical 2000 had some hot joints on it

yes, but the whole album is weak.

reminds me of Big Pun's second album and Nastradamus... few cool joints scattered in a big bag of shit


Pun's 2nd album woulda been a lot doper if he were alive


Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Al Bundy on October 06, 2014, 01:45:57 PM
Meth's first album was doomed after a flood happened in the studio where it was recorded. They had to make a new album after that.

I wish someone had a backup of that original album. It might have been a better album.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Blood$ on October 06, 2014, 01:50:53 PM
Meth's first album was doomed after a flood happened in the studio where it was recorded. They had to make a new album after that.

very interesting
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Al Bundy on October 06, 2014, 02:08:30 PM
http://exclaim.ca/Features/Timeline/wu-tang_clan-days_of_wu

IIRC some of those beats were also for Inspectah Decks first album too but my memory could be hazy  8)
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 06, 2014, 06:00:25 PM
Meth's first album was doomed after a flood happened in the studio where it was recorded. They had to make a new album after that.

I wish someone had a backup of that original album. It might have been a better album.

all the beats were the same samples, just re-worked from scratch.  which must have sucked for RZA.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: wardy on October 12, 2014, 03:27:30 PM
Honestly I'd have to go with Meth, I like all 3 of JadaKiss albums and no doubt they could have been better with a bit of tweaking they all had some great music on there. But as for Meth Tical is a classic but the 2 other Ticals weren't up to the same level. 4:21 had some quality music on it but In my personal opinion Jadas solo's are a shade better than Meths bar Tical.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on October 14, 2014, 07:13:12 PM
Jada easy. For whatever reason, Jada could not make ONE good album.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on October 14, 2014, 07:15:24 PM
I dont think Jada has dropped an album as good as Tical...but the biggest letdown for me was Meth's second album

even though Judgement Day and MAke Ups To Breakups are the shit?
Judgement Day is underrated. How can people not fuck with this..

https://www.youtube.com//v/ikY7GWdL4d0https://www.youtube.com//v/E2KAXhJoWtYhttps://www.youtube.com//v/t95CO4ktWbMhttps://www.youtube.com//v/yyCpoo6uNyg

And Break Up to Make up is sick also.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Blood$ on October 15, 2014, 09:04:09 AM
I dont think Jada has dropped an album as good as Tical...but the biggest letdown for me was Meth's second album

even though Judgement Day and MAke Ups To Breakups are the shit?
Judgement Day is underrated. How can people not fuck with this..

https://www.youtube.com//v/ikY7GWdL4d0https://www.youtube.com//v/E2KAXhJoWtYhttps://www.youtube.com//v/t95CO4ktWbMhttps://www.youtube.com//v/yyCpoo6uNyg

And Break Up to Make up is sick also.

Kiss Of Death title track > all of those lol
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 18, 2014, 07:17:31 PM
upp
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on October 30, 2014, 10:33:55 AM
Jada easy. For whatever reason, Jada could not make ONE good album.
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Blood$ on October 30, 2014, 01:52:09 PM
Jada easy. For whatever reason, Jada could not make ONE good album.

that reason is because he has 2 solid albums and one ok album  8)

Meth's catalog is one almost classic, one good album, and all the rest duds
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on November 03, 2014, 02:00:12 PM
too bad Jada never got himself some vintage RZA beats
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Blood$ on November 03, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
too bad Jada never got himself some vintage RZA beats

that would have been dope... at least he got some Havoc and Primo  8)
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: westside159 on November 03, 2014, 03:09:04 PM
Both of them have wack solo albums . Tical is overrated , and Jadakiss is a good rapper but he makes wack songs
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: doggfather on November 03, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
Ttical o errated?
Where?
Title: Re: Bigger solo disappointment: Method Man or Jadakiss
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on November 11, 2014, 09:45:03 PM
Ttical o errated?
Where?