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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: djole 213 on December 17, 2014, 01:31:15 AM
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As Stephen Colbert prepares to say goodbye to "The Colbert Report", he welcomed Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick debuted an untitled new track alongside a band featuring Thundercat and Bilal. The track was reportedly produced by Astronote.
http://www.sharebeast.com/3agfgpelex5r
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again, Kendrick is completely ignored on this forum. smh
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again, Kendrick is completely ignored on this forum. smh
good lyrical deliverance like always from Kendrick i hope to here the regular version
but true smh but what do you expect when 96% of the time here is talked about washed up rappers from 20 years ago
the whole tde is ignored here as well as other newer good west artist
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smh at the first two posts being meta-commentary instead of actually talking about the track, much irony.
shit sounded good, way better than i. jazzy track with spacey sounds and plenty of soul, more tracks like this would be great.
performance starts around 4 mins
http://www.youtube.com/v/6zr9YagWL3w
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Song is decent. Kendrick isn't appreciated on this forum because his style is not very West Coast. And ever since he blew up, he acts silly and artificial, like he's Wayne or a "Martian" or some other gimmicky rapper. At the end of this performance, the screaming and shaking is just hella gay to me. It's designed to appeal to 16 year olds.
I'm glad to see TERRACE MARTIN getting some shine, though.
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smh at the first two posts being meta-commentary instead of actually talking about the track, much irony.
shit sounded good, way better than i. jazzy track with spacey sounds and plenty of soul, more tracks like this would be great.
i know right, lol. Kendrick is getting a lot of love but it's not like they ever come up with something credible and unbiased to say.
I liked the production, obviously needs more spins to process the content but I liked the guitar and the performance overall.
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smh at the first two posts being meta-commentary instead of actually talking about the track, much irony.
shit sounded good, way better than i. jazzy track with spacey sounds and plenty of soul, more tracks like this would be great.
i know right, lol. Kendrick is getting a lot of love but it's not like they ever come up with something credible and unbiased to say.
I liked the production, obviously needs more spins to process the content but I liked the guitar and the performance overall.
it's hillarious how they whine about other peoples preferences then when there's a thread for something they do actually like, they're still whining. those guys are the worst posters, full of negativity all the time.
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This damn good.
Kendrick is bacc
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I generally think Kendrick sounds like an Andre 3000 spinoff for the 2010s era. I agree that he hardly sounds like a west coast artist at all, so it's no surprise to me that he doesn't get much "love" here. This is a west coast forum after all. That's why I don't understand why people complain about certain artists like Kendrick not getting enough love here. I think it's fair to think of a forum dedicated to west coast music as being one that is dedicated to music that sounds west coast rather than to artists that hail from the west coast.
It's not really something I've really formally thought of before, but, you know, there are French artists who make west coast-sounding music who get more shine here in some respects than Compton artists like Kendrick who don't make traditional west coast music. I think the tension that exists on this board lies in the division between how people view what this forum is dedicated to. Is it just music that sounds west coast? (In which case it doesn't matter where it's made -- California, France, etc.) Or is it music that was actually made by artists that are from the West Coast, regardless of what their music sounds like? Some people think it's the latter, but I tend to think of it as the former.
I think Kendrick is a good artist, and Good Kid was good for what it was, but to me, I'd much rather listen to other stuff, and his style doesn't really speak to me as directly as someone more traditionally West Coast like Dom Kennedy.
Something to think about...
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I generally think Kendrick sounds like an Andre 3000 spinoff for the 2010s era. I agree that he hardly sounds like a west coast artist at all, so it's no surprise to me that he doesn't get much "love" here. This is a west coast forum after all. That's why I don't understand why people complain about certain artists like Kendrick not getting enough love here. I think it's fair to think of a forum dedicated to west coast music as being one that is dedicated to music that sounds west coast rather than to artists that hail from the west coast.
It's not really something I've really formally thought of before, but, you know, there are French artists who make west coast-sounding music who get more shine here in some respects than Compton artists like Kendrick who don't make traditional west coast music. I think the tension that exists on this board lies in the division between how people view what this forum is dedicated to. Is it just music that sounds west coast? (In which case it doesn't matter where it's made -- California, France, etc.) Or is it music that was actually made by artists that are from the West Coast, regardless of what their music sounds like? Some people think it's the latter, but I tend to think of it as the former.
I think Kendrick is a good artist, and Good Kid was good for what it was, but to me, I'd much rather listen to other stuff, and his style doesn't really speak to me as directly as someone more traditionally West Coast like Dom Kennedy.
Something to think about...
Good Point of view
True dat
Preach
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it's true that first and foremost it's a board dedicated to g-funk and traditional gangsta rap, but kendrick has gotten a lot of love here over the years. some people have complained about his lack of "regional sound" which I disagree with since I think Kendrick's californian identity is pretty obvious but a lot of people have shown love as well.
i think you picked the wrong example with france because although France is a very active g-funk "nursery", most often it's being ridiculed here for being unauthentic and over-the-top (can't say I disagree much although I do think some producers are extremely dope). what's true though is that most posters are more interested in golden age g-funk music than any other type of music, coming from the west coast or not. hence a lot of my threads about lesser-known newer artists having no response at all lol. but TDE gets a lot of love round here, and it's not a new thing. even as far back as 2010 it was the case.
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smh at the first two posts being meta-commentary instead of actually talking about the track, much irony.
shit sounded good, way better than i. jazzy track with spacey sounds and plenty of soul, more tracks like this would be great.
performance starts around 4 mins
http://www.youtube.com/v/6zr9YagWL3w
I loved the song. Like Matty always says need to hear it properly mixed/mastered but that was a hell of a performance from K.Dot
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I generally think Kendrick sounds like an Andre 3000 spinoff for the 2010s era. I agree that he hardly sounds like a west coast artist at all, so it's no surprise to me that he doesn't get much "love" here. This is a west coast forum after all. That's why I don't understand why people complain about certain artists like Kendrick not getting enough love here. I think it's fair to think of a forum dedicated to west coast music as being one that is dedicated to music that sounds west coast rather than to artists that hail from the west coast.
It's not really something I've really formally thought of before, but, you know, there are French artists who make west coast-sounding music who get more shine here in some respects than Compton artists like Kendrick who don't make traditional west coast music. I think the tension that exists on this board lies in the division between how people view what this forum is dedicated to. Is it just music that sounds west coast? (In which case it doesn't matter where it's made -- California, France, etc.) Or is it music that was actually made by artists that are from the West Coast, regardless of what their music sounds like? Some people think it's the latter, but I tend to think of it as the former.
I think Kendrick is a good artist, and Good Kid was good for what it was, but to me, I'd much rather listen to other stuff, and his style doesn't really speak to me as directly as someone more traditionally West Coast like Dom Kennedy.
Something to think about...
This is the way I see it as well.
Kendrick is a product of marketing to appeal to teenagers across America. He's not for fans of West Coast rap.
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All this talk about Kendrick not sounding West Coast is ridiculous. Kendrick doesn't have an accent that would make me think he's East or even South. He's West! And I'm not saying this based on the new shit that people are just listening too. Kendrick has released multiple albums/mixtapes and people are still talking about his style? I had KDot tracks before he even dropped Section 80. Never did that even cross my mind; people are confused. What Kendrick does not sound like is a "GANGSTER RAPPER". This isn't about him not sounding West. It's about him not being a gangster rapper. This doesn't mean he doesn't sound WEST. Kendrick is just a type of rapper that has made it big on the West, who isn't a gangster rapper. But he is not the first of his kind on the WEST. He could easily blend it with Pharcyde, Souls of Mischief, Tha Liks, Hiero, Dilated Peoples, Madlib, Lootpack, Defari, Aceyalone, Jurassic 5 etc etc etc. He isn't the first of his kind in the West. There's been a westcoast tradition of backpack/hip hop rappers since waaaay back. People just need to catch the fuck up. Not just a tradition but LEGENDARY "underground" groups like [The Pharcyde] and [Souls of Mischief] who had their own unique style and sounded like nobody. Kendrick and AB Soul are more to this liking, stylistically. Of course, they are also able to blend the rawness of the West but that's not who Kendrick is. He's more of a Hip Hopper. That's all it is.
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He could easily blend it with Pharcyde, Souls of Mischief, Tha Liks, Hiero, Dilated Peoples, Madlib, Lootpack, Defari, Aceyalone, Jurassic 5 etc etc etc. He isn't the first of his kind in the West. There's been a westcoast tradition of backpack/hip hop rappers since waaaay back. People just need to catch the fuck up.
I think you're providing evidence that supports my point. Basically all of those groups don't get nearly the same level of attention here as Tha Dogg Pound because they didn't make the kind of music that could be called stereotypically west coast*. Fans of west coast rap are generally fans of stereotypical west coast gangsta rap -- that "sound" -- rather than backpack rap. So it should come as no surprise that those groups you mentioned don't amass the same levels of appreciation from this board, because what really captures the hearts and minds of a global fanbase is not where an artist is from but how he sounds. At the end of the day, fans don't care where you're from provided you make the kind of music that they like to listen to.
I'm just explaining WHY new west coast artists that don't sound stereotypically west coast like Kendrick don't get "love" on this board. It's not because we're stuck in the 90s.
*except for maybe Tha Liks -- I don't think you should have included them in that list
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All this talk about Kendrick not sounding West Coast is ridiculous. Kendrick doesn't have an accent that would make me think he's East or even South. He's West! And I'm not saying this based on the new shit that people are just listening too. Kendrick has released multiple albums/mixtapes and people are still talking about his style? I had KDot tracks before he even dropped Section 80. Never did that even cross my mind; people are confused. What Kendrick does not sound like is a "GANGSTER RAPPER". This isn't about him not sounding West. It's about him not being a gangster rapper. This doesn't mean he doesn't sound WEST. Kendrick is just a type of rapper that has made it big on the West, who isn't a gangster rapper. But he is not the first of his kind on the WEST. He could easily blend it with Pharcyde, Souls of Mischief, Tha Liks, Hiero, Dilated Peoples, Madlib, Lootpack, Defari, Aceyalone, Jurassic 5 etc etc etc. He isn't the first of his kind in the West. There's been a westcoast tradition of backpack/hip hop rappers since waaaay back. People just need to catch the fuck up. Not just a tradition but LEGENDARY "underground" groups like [The Pharcyde] and [Souls of Mischief] who had their own unique style and sounded like nobody. Kendrick and AB Soul are more to this liking, stylistically. Of course, they are also able to blend the rawness of the West but that's not who Kendrick is. He's more of a Hip Hopper. That's all it is.
co-sign 100 percent
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He could easily blend it with Pharcyde, Souls of Mischief, Tha Liks, Hiero, Dilated Peoples, Madlib, Lootpack, Defari, Aceyalone, Jurassic 5 etc etc etc. He isn't the first of his kind in the West. There's been a westcoast tradition of backpack/hip hop rappers since waaaay back. People just need to catch the fuck up.
I think you're providing evidence that supports my point. Basically all of those groups don't get nearly the same level of attention here as Tha Dogg Pound because they didn't make the kind of music that could be called stereotypically west coast*. Fans of west coast rap are generally fans of stereotypical west coast gangsta rap -- that "sound" -- rather than backpack rap. So it should come as no surprise that those groups you mentioned don't amass the same levels of appreciation from this board, because what really captures the hearts and minds of a global fanbase is not where an artist is from but how he sounds. At the end of the day, fans don't care where you're from provided you make the kind of music that they like to listen to.
I'm just explaining WHY new west coast artists that don't sound stereotypically west coast like Kendrick don't get "love" on this board. It's not because we're stuck in the 90s.
*except for maybe Tha Liks -- I don't think you should have included them in that list
I see what you're saying. My point remains the same though. We both agree on what Kendrick is but that doesn't mean he doesn't "sound" West Coast. It just means he isn't a gangster rapper. The West originated the G Rap, so that's why we're identified with it but that's what most people were on in those days. Everyone jocked the West style.Everyone was doing some type of G/street rap. It wasn't just in the West. Times have now changed and we're on a different era. Seems to me that the backpack style is getting more love than ever, so guys like Kendrick are taking advantage of this movement. But I don't necessarily agree with those who think he doesn't sound West. It's more about him not doing gangster rap.
Tha Liks were never G rappers either. They were more along the side of pure Hip Hop as well.
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i can give a fuck bout most of ya opinion bout music here cause ur not here in the usa so you dont know how life is here
plus your irrelevant as fuck in 2015 still listing to artist from 20 -30 years ago like if it was today what that says bout you prob
most of you are out of touch i been listing to kendrick since 2011 after the kendrick lamar ep came out if most of you fucks give the guy a chance ur know hes west coast
point is most of you dont like him or most new guys cause there not talking bout gang banging in every track just like most of them washed up old west coast artist thats why 95 % fell off its almost 2015 time to put your dads rappers away
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smh at the first two posts being meta-commentary instead of actually talking about the track, much irony.
shit sounded good, way better than i. jazzy track with spacey sounds and plenty of soul, more tracks like this would be great.
performance starts around 4 mins
http://www.youtube.com/v/6zr9YagWL3w
He was jammin and flowin his ass off , i'm feelin this song . laid back smooth , luv that sax and the beat .
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smh at the first two posts being meta-commentary instead of actually talking about the track, much irony.
shit sounded good, way better than i. jazzy track with spacey sounds and plenty of soul, more tracks like this would be great.
performance starts around 4 mins
http://www.youtube.com/v/6zr9YagWL3w
He was jammin and flowin his ass off , i'm feelin this song . laid back smooth , luv that sax and the beat .
good song but nothing new cause hes always doing that he had some great records before section 80
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Not feeling this new direction that Kendrick is taking at all, to me its over pretentious and just give me Arrested Development/Spearhead vibes lol.
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Joined the forum years ago because of my love for west coast sounds, so obviously I expect majority to be from or fond of that era.
Saying that, I read most of the posts in different sections, maybe not respond to all the post.
The Forum is called Dubcc for a reason.
Back to the post, I like this song a lot, I like 'i' too.
Can't wait for Kendrick's new album, one of the few artist nowadays that I try to understand the message of their songs.
J.cole's new album and PRYHME are the 2 albums that have been making my December a beautiful one.
I know K.Dot will deliver
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This shit is dope. Definitely feelin it.
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MAN DOWN WHERE U FROM MY NIGGA , GEAH IT AINT NOTHIN BUT A COMPTON THANG 8) 8) KENDRICK AND EIHT DYNAMIC DUO 1 2 PUNCH FOR THE WIN COMPTON STYLE
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Lol
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I Like it!
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smh at the first two posts being meta-commentary instead of actually talking about the track, much irony.
shit sounded good, way better than i. jazzy track with spacey sounds and plenty of soul, more tracks like this would be great.
performance starts around 4 mins
http://www.youtube.com/v/6zr9YagWL3w
He was jammin and flowin his ass off , i'm feelin this song . laid back smooth , luv that sax and the beat .
good song but nothing new cause hes always doing that he had some great records before section 80
did he say that it was new ? did he talk about section .80 in his post ? look, we get it, you were listening to Kendrick before section .80, big deal, do you want a medal or something ? cause that's all you ramble about lol, like you are the only one on this forum (LOL), like it gives your opinion any legitimacy (re-LOL). if you want to be taken seriously, drop the rants and try typing coherent posts using credible arguments other than "you're not from the USA so your opinion doesn't count", "you're irrelevant because you listen to 20 year old music".
plus you said "most of you don't like kendrick", but have you checked the response to this thread ? it's mostly positive feedback aside from a few posters. point is you're conflicted because if Kendrick doesn't get love from someone you're gonna say "this forum is stuck in the past", if Kendrick gets love you're gonna say "you just like him now cause he's hype but i've been listening to him since way back". you're a walking contradiction who is barely making any sense in his posts. it looks to me you have an ego problem and want to be seen as a kind of prophet or trendsetter regarding music, you're dissing people talking about g-funk but you're making threads about 2pac and Warren G, isn't that contradictory ?