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Title: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on January 20, 2015, 08:49:19 PM
each team has their own 12 footballs to use


Colts caught on after intercepting Brady.  I remember being so happy he threw that INT without knowing how now Brady looks like a complete fraud for his reaction yesterday.


NFL needs to ban Belichunks from coaching the Superbowl
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Chamillitary Click on January 21, 2015, 07:34:20 AM
Corporations run the country. Super Bowl Sunday is a huge day for them. No shot they touch the game. Pats will feel the wrath after the season.
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 21, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
I hope they ban Belichick next year. All next year. But they wouldn't touch the game, and I don't want them to touch the game. This is professional football, not college. If you lose, even if the other team cheats you have to deal with it, and you move on to the next game. The next game is the Super Bowl, and you let the two best teams go at it full strength. But next year, you almost have to ban Belichick the whole year.
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Chamillitary Click on January 21, 2015, 10:18:39 AM
^If you can prove it was him.
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on January 21, 2015, 12:07:32 PM
like they proved against Sean Payton?
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 21, 2015, 12:12:05 PM
^If you can prove it was him.

like they proved against Sean Payton?

I think Sean Payton is exactly the standard the NFL is going with. They'll throw the book at Belichick.
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on January 21, 2015, 08:47:55 PM
i hope so


it's not like they NEEDED to cheat to win but the fact they did it so blatantly is horrible
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Sccit on January 22, 2015, 12:42:58 PM
ask Brady
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Shallow on January 22, 2015, 10:35:23 PM
i hope so


it's not like they NEEDED to cheat to win but the fact they did it so blatantly is horrible


Lets look at that for a second. The Colts said they knew to check about the balls because of the the two picks the Colts had on Brady in the week 8 game during the season. This means the Pats did it back then, and most likely they did it in between then and the AFC Title Game. I agree with Jaworski, who said the Pats didn't need to underinflate balls to beat the Colts, they could have beaten them with a frisbee.

But what about the Ravens. It wasn't a warm spring day against them in the Divisional Round. If those balls were underinflated by two pounds then that really could have helped Brady get a grip on a nice throw to Lafell, and it would have helped Edelman grip a ball thrown to Amendola.

In my opinion, it is like they NEEDED to cheat, just not against the Colts.
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on January 23, 2015, 10:45:49 AM
they def needed to cheat to beat Baltimore
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 23, 2015, 08:19:37 PM
Judging by this, it could have been as far back as the almost perfect season!

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2917

Do they change the balls in the Super Bowl, because they've been to two Super Bowls since then and lost both. Or do the Giants just have NE's number? Anyways, DAMN! This might be as deep as deep can get.
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Sccit on January 23, 2015, 08:28:58 PM
all the balls in the superbowl are provided by the nfl.....maybe
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on January 23, 2015, 08:46:13 PM
Bernjarvis Green Ellis had 0 fumbles in 50+ games with the Pats


in 32 games with the Bengals he had 5 fumbles


hmmm  ::)
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 23, 2015, 09:37:55 PM
Bernjarvis Green Ellis had 0 fumbles in 50+ games with the Pats


in 32 games with the Bengals he had 5 fumbles


hmmm  ::)

I don't have a link, but the one that was interesting as well was the Patriots rainy weather passing compared to their dry weather passing. They actually do BETTER in the rain than in the dry weather. It was talked about a lot on Bay Area radio. But I don't have a link right now, and especially a link as detailed as the one on fumbles. One thing is for sure something is up.
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 23, 2015, 09:45:13 PM
Also, an interesting one. Kevin Faulk.

From 99-06, he had 23 fumbles. From 07-11 he had 2 fumbles, without a huge cut off on carries because he really never had a huge year of carries anywhere except 2003 with 4 fumbles and 2008 with 0 fumbles.
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Shallow on January 24, 2015, 06:07:23 AM
Nothing is new here, the Patriots cheat and the NFL covers it up. Goodel went out of his way to get Spygate to go away. Destroying tapes before seeing them and not allowing curious congressmen to see what was up.

Of course I'm sure there was just as much or more cheating happening and being covered up by Rozelle and Tagliabue, but Goodel is doing such a poor job at representing this league its laughable. he's trying so hard to get the soccer moms to come out and let their kids play football, that he completely ignores the integrity of the game.

To the soccer moms, the fantasy bums, and the water cooler crowd, the NFL is a fad. They'll walk away from it the second it gets a little stale. To to the actual fans of football; they need a game they can respect, and very quickly Roger Goodel is taking that away;

Rule changes that inflate numbers, deflated balls being swept under the rug, video tapes being destroyed. Eventually something is going to give.

To be honest I expect a new league to be formed in the coming years to deal with all this. Definitive instant replay with little wiggle room for interpretation, no silly personal fouls for simply tackling someone, a little more contact allowed after 5 yards, QBs being treated like football players rather than kings. I don't expect it to over take the NFL but I expect it to open a few eyes with in the NFL about how Football can be played.

The problem with the XFL was they were trying to do everything the NFL does but attempt to to do it better. The agenda should be to do right everything that the NFL does completely wrong, and do the same for everything the NFL does right.
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Sccit on January 24, 2015, 08:45:40 AM
Nothing is new here, the Patriots cheat and the NFL covers it up. Goodel went out of his way to get Spygate to go away. Destroying tapes before seeing them and not allowing curious congressmen to see what was up.

Of course I'm sure there was just as much or more cheating happening and being covered up by Rozelle and Tagliabue, but Goodel is doing such a poor job at representing this league its laughable. he's trying so hard to get the soccer moms to come out and let their kids play football, that he completely ignores the integrity of the game.

To the soccer moms, the fantasy bums, and the water cooler crowd, the NFL is a fad. They'll walk away from it the second it gets a little stale. To to the actual fans of football; they need a game they can respect, and very quickly Roger Goodel is taking that away;

Rule changes that inflate numbers, deflated balls being swept under the rug, video tapes being destroyed. Eventually something is going to give.

To be honest I expect a new league to be formed in the coming years to deal with all this. Definitive instant replay with little wiggle room for interpretation, no silly personal fouls for simply tackling someone, a little more contact allowed after 5 yards, QBs being treated like football players rather than kings. I don't expect it to over take the NFL but I expect it to open a few eyes with in the NFL about how Football can be played.

The problem with the XFL was they were trying to do everything the NFL does but attempt to to do it better. The agenda should be to do right everything that the NFL does completely wrong, and do the same for everything the NFL does right.

or maybe it's just time for a new commissioner
Title: Re: Mort: Patriots deflated 11 of 12 footballs
Post by: Shallow on January 24, 2015, 10:50:49 AM
Losing Goodel won't fix a lot of the current problems. They need to allow illegal contact from noth sides until 10 to 15 yards at least. They need to stop with this defenseless receiver BS and defenseless QB. If you see a guy coming you cover up. Making people feel safe leads to the worst of injuries because the WRs and QBs take for granted that the guy won't lay you out. In a slightly different manner, its how the extra pads and helmets ended up getting so many hockey players seriously injured. Before the body check would never be a ram in the back face first into the boards, then it became common on every play. Live video replay refs in the booth being able to judge penalties on the spot as to not slow down the game. An assistant head ref that the head ref trusts to call it as it happens and radio into the ref with the call. Not just for plays but for penalties too.

And personally I would like to see a system where each team has two designated captains, one on D one on O and never more than one designated captain on the field at once, and that captain is the only one even allowed to have any contact with the ref. He is the only one allowed to plead the case and ask why the call was made. Anyone else that asks gets a 5 yard penalty for the team. Also any complaining or yelling at the refs also gets a 5 yarder if from the captain and a ten yarder from anyone else. And in every case it is coupled with a loss of down as well. (you don't have to wear a C or anything and if the captain has to leave the field then anyone else can become the captain, but it must be designated and told to the refs when it happens).

That will instantly clean up the game and quicken it.