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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: WestSideDon on February 22, 2015, 08:35:31 AM
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Yo, one of the most legendary west coast groups of all time, lots of classic songs, and still in the game after decades. I'm a big fan myself, and clearly NOT a hater, but as you know every great artist or group also made their fair share of bad songs & projects, so lets discuss some of their "Not that great work" ;D
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I'll probably catch some hell for this, but I never cared much for If We all Fucc and Some Bomb Azz. To me, they slow the album to a halt, an album that was basically some hard West Coast beats with Kurupt in his prime spitting, and Daz doing pretty well himself. They're not really bad songs I suppose (although you could certainly drop the part with Snoop busting a nut), but don't fit the album.
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I'll probably catch some hell for this, but I never cared much for If We all Fucc and Some Bomb Azz. To me, they slow the album to a halt, an album that was basically some hard West Coast beats with Kurupt in his prime spitting, and Daz doing pretty well himself. They're not really bad songs I suppose (although you could certainly drop the part with Snoop busting a nut), but don't fit the album.
yeah this happened on Dillinger & Young Gotti as well, I think they had about 3 or 4 songs in a row like that...
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Good Pu$$y ????
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I'll probably catch some hell for this, but I never cared much for If We all Fucc and Some Bomb Azz. To me, they slow the album to a halt, an album that was basically some hard West Coast beats with Kurupt in his prime spitting, and Daz doing pretty well himself. They're not really bad songs I suppose (although you could certainly drop the part with Snoop busting a nut), but don't fit the album.
That kind of comes from the NWA/Dr. Dre school of album making, and who can argue with it considering all the classics?
Basically, the theory goes like this. An album should be something you can listen to the whole way through, sequenced beginning to end, even something you can play at a party. In a party atmosphere and party vibe you can't just hit them off with hardcore shit like "Dogg Pound Gangstaz", "Cyco-lic-no" or "Doggz Day Afternoon".
In the Dre school of album making, an album has to play out more like a movie. You have to have your action scenes balanced out with some sex scenes ("If We All/Bomb Ass") and some personal realization ("I Don't Like To Dream About Getting Paid", "Reality"), and some party jams ("Let's Play House"), maybe some comic relief... That makes for a great movie, a great party, and a great album.
...so it's not simply about putting your best songs onto an album and just going straight for the throat and jugular vein. The album has to be sequenced and balanced for overall effect. Nobody can say shit about Dogg Food because it is a classic.
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(...) Nobody can say shit about Dogg Food because it is a classic.
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Skip Skip!!!
Why daz dont produce there Own songs i really dont get it
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I'll probably catch some hell for this, but I never cared much for If We all Fucc and Some Bomb Azz. To me, they slow the album to a halt, an album that was basically some hard West Coast beats with Kurupt in his prime spitting, and Daz doing pretty well himself. They're not really bad songs I suppose (although you could certainly drop the part with Snoop busting a nut), but don't fit the album.
That kind of comes from the NWA/Dr. Dre school of album making, and who can argue with it considering all the classics?
Basically, the theory goes like this. An album should be something you can listen to the whole way through, sequenced beginning to end, even something you can play at a party. In a party atmosphere and party vibe you can't just hit them off with hardcore shit like "Dogg Pound Gangstaz", "Cyco-lic-no" or "Doggz Day Afternoon".
In the Dre school of album making, an album has to play out more like a movie. You have to have your action scenes balanced out with some sex scenes ("If We All/Bomb Ass") and some personal realization ("I Don't Like To Dream About Getting Paid", "Reality"), and some party jams ("Let's Play House"). That makes for a great movie, a great party, and a great album.
...so it's not simply about putting your best songs onto an album and just going straight for the throat and jugular vein. The album has to be sequenced and balanced for overall effect. Nobody can say shit about Dogg Food because it is a classic.
Fair enough but I actually like stuff like Automobile and whatnot--not so much the Dogg Food stuff. And I'm not so sure that is Dre's philosophy--other than the second NWA album and 2001, where does he come through with hardcore sex songs like that? Doggystyle doesn't have any. The Chronic doesn't other than the Doctor's Office skit (which was done more for comedy value). Straight Outta Compton doesn't. 50 Cent albums he produced have girl jams on them but not really stuff in this vein. Eminem, no. Xzibit, no. D.O.C., no. (Bridgette was cut for being too explicit on that one, to be fair, but it's still played more for laughs than sex as I recall.)
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"Bomb Azz Pussy" was classic, "If We All Fuc" was filler and should have been scrapped from the album but I wouldn't put that with their worst songs
I'll have to skim their albums later and come back to this thread
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I'll probably catch some hell for this, but I never cared much for If We all Fucc and Some Bomb Azz. To me, they slow the album to a halt, an album that was basically some hard West Coast beats with Kurupt in his prime spitting, and Daz doing pretty well himself. They're not really bad songs I suppose (although you could certainly drop the part with Snoop busting a nut), but don't fit the album.
That kind of comes from the NWA/Dr. Dre school of album making, and who can argue with it considering all the classics?
Basically, the theory goes like this. An album should be something you can listen to the whole way through, sequenced beginning to end, even something you can play at a party. In a party atmosphere and party vibe you can't just hit them off with hardcore shit like "Dogg Pound Gangstaz", "Cyco-lic-no" or "Doggz Day Afternoon".
In the Dre school of album making, an album has to play out more like a movie. You have to have your action scenes balanced out with some sex scenes ("If We All/Bomb Ass") and some personal realization ("I Don't Like To Dream About Getting Paid", "Reality"), and some party jams ("Let's Play House"). That makes for a great movie, a great party, and a great album.
...so it's not simply about putting your best songs onto an album and just going straight for the throat and jugular vein. The album has to be sequenced and balanced for overall effect. Nobody can say shit about Dogg Food because it is a classic.
I have always felt that if those two songs would have been left off the album Dogg Food would have flowed better. Or what if instead of those two tracks back to back they would have included "what would you do" instead? I know "what would you do" wasn't meant for the album but I always think that Dogg Food would have been better without those two or with a real classic instead. And it's not that the songs talk about fuckin that makes me not like them, I just feel that they were executed poorly. Take Quik's Safe + Sound album for example, it has "can I eat it?", "It's your fantasy" and "tha ho in you", all in a row; but I think they flow with the album better and are overall better songs and they're all about fuckin. This is something that has always bugged me about Dogg Food.
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I'll probably catch some hell for this, but I never cared much for If We all Fucc and Some Bomb Azz. To me, they slow the album to a halt, an album that was basically some hard West Coast beats with Kurupt in his prime spitting, and Daz doing pretty well himself. They're not really bad songs I suppose (although you could certainly drop the part with Snoop busting a nut), but don't fit the album.
That kind of comes from the NWA/Dr. Dre school of album making, and who can argue with it considering all the classics?
Basically, the theory goes like this. An album should be something you can listen to the whole way through, sequenced beginning to end, even something you can play at a party. In a party atmosphere and party vibe you can't just hit them off with hardcore shit like "Dogg Pound Gangstaz", "Cyco-lic-no" or "Doggz Day Afternoon".
In the Dre school of album making, an album has to play out more like a movie. You have to have your action scenes balanced out with some sex scenes ("If We All/Bomb Ass") and some personal realization ("I Don't Like To Dream About Getting Paid", "Reality"), and some party jams ("Let's Play House"). That makes for a great movie, a great party, and a great album.
...so it's not simply about putting your best songs onto an album and just going straight for the throat and jugular vein. The album has to be sequenced and balanced for overall effect. Nobody can say shit about Dogg Food because it is a classic.
You say that yet Dr.Dre - 2001 was sequenced pretty badly. It looses its flow multiple times throughout the album
But the again i think the 2001 album would have been much better if around 6 of the tracks on there were removed from it.
I will say the same about Dogg Food...classic album but could have done with a lot of the second half shaving off it, i think "Reality" is the only one i really like in the second half
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I'll probably catch some hell for this, but I never cared much for If We all Fucc and Some Bomb Azz. To me, they slow the album to a halt, an album that was basically some hard West Coast beats with Kurupt in his prime spitting, and Daz doing pretty well himself. They're not really bad songs I suppose (although you could certainly drop the part with Snoop busting a nut), but don't fit the album.
Absoutely agree! And to think, those 2 songs made it over "Can't C Me" - wtf!
That kind of comes from the NWA/Dr. Dre school of album making, and who can argue with it considering all the classics?
In the Dre school of album making, an album has to play out more like a movie. You have to have your action scenes balanced out with some sex scenes ("If We All/Bomb Ass") and some personal realization ("I Don't Like To Dream About Getting Paid", "Reality"), and some party jams ("Let's Play House"). That makes for a great movie, a great party, and a great album.
...so it's not simply about putting your best songs onto an album and just going straight for the throat and jugular vein. The album has to be sequenced and balanced for overall effect. Nobody can say shit about Dogg Food because it is a classic.
That's one of the dumbest things I ever heard. You're basically saying that a wack song should make it over a dope song because it creates balance? Then fuck balance, put out all the best material, my jugular vein can handle it. *pause
You say that yet Dr.Dre - 2001 was sequenced pretty badly. It looses its flow multiple times throughout the album
But the again i think the 2001 album would have been much better if around 6 of the tracks on there were removed from it.
I will say the same about Dogg Food...classic album but could have done with a lot of the second half shaving off it, i think "Reality" is the only one i really like in the second half
I caught flack for saying that once but I completely agree. 2001 was front loaded as fuck, the second half of that album was decent at best. Fuck ALL the skits (Bar skit, homosexual Porno skit, Eddie Griffin skit, and car bomb), fuck that random "Murder Ink" song, fuck that dry ass "Some LA Niggas" song - he should've replaced that with "Hello" or "Chin Check" (or possibly an unreleased track from those NWA reunion sessions)
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Speaking of making it over cant c me, which songs besides that one & every single day were planned for df ?
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Speaking of making it over cant c me, which songs besides that one & every single day were planned for df ?
Got My Mind Made Up
Don't Stop
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Speaking of making it over cant c me, which songs besides that one & every single day were planned for df ?
Got My Mind Made Up
Don't Stop
Started
Thx, so these 5 songs (the 3 you mentioned + Every Single Day & Cant C Me) are all or are there some more ?
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Speaking of making it over cant c me, which songs besides that one & every single day were planned for df ?
Got My Mind Made Up
Don't Stop
Started
Thx, so these 5 songs (the 3 you mentioned + Every Single Day & Cant C Me) are all or are there some more ?
i'm sure there were more but I cant think of them off the top...maybe a couple of tracks that were on future compilations like "2002" and "Doggy Bag"?
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And I'm not so sure that is Dre's philosophy--other than the second NWA album and 2001, where does he come through with hardcore sex songs like that? Doggystyle doesn't have any. The Chronic doesn't other than the Doctor's Office skit (which was done more for comedy value). Straight Outta Compton doesn't. 50 Cent albums he produced have girl jams on them but not really stuff in this vein. Eminem, no. Xzibit, no. D.O.C., no. (Bridgette was cut for being too explicit on that one, to be fair, but it's still played more for laughs than sex as I recall.)
comic relief is part of the Dre school of album making, btw...
as for sex, your crazy if you think there isn't plenty of sexual content to go around on albums Dre has overseen...
Chronic- Doctor's office skit and "Bitches Ain't Shit"
Doggystyle- has plenty of sex on the record, tracks like "Gin and Juice" have plenty of sexual content, the Sam Sneed skit has sex content, Lodi Dodi has sexual content, obviously "Ain't No Fun", the albums artwork has sexual content, and so on...
50 Cent - "21 Questions", and "P.I.M.P" and maybe a couple others have plenty of sexual content
Eminem- That wasn't really Eminem's style so much. Dre isn't going to dictate to an artist what to do but try to bring out the best in them. I still think there is some twisted sexual commentary in plenty of his rhymes though
Xzibit - "Front to Back", "Fucking You Right"
come on man, your trippin
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fuck that dry ass "Some LA Niggas" song - he should've replaced that with "Hello" or "Chin Check"
lol@this comment... "Some LA Niggaz" is a true Westcoast banger and the album wouldn't have been complete without that cut.
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aside from the corny intro with Snoop busting a nut, Some Bomb Azz Pussy is an excellent song. the beat is dope, snoop, daz and kurupt all come correct.
If We All Fucc is average at best, though.
top 10 worst songs though, IDK, i'd have to look into their later years on releases like D&YG2, Cali Iz Active, and Daz's albums (Matter of Dayz, etc.)
There are songs I never really got into, though, such as Knick Knack Patty Wack, or Fuck the World (on Space Boogie).
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And I'm not so sure that is Dre's philosophy--other than the second NWA album and 2001, where does he come through with hardcore sex songs like that? Doggystyle doesn't have any. The Chronic doesn't other than the Doctor's Office skit (which was done more for comedy value). Straight Outta Compton doesn't. 50 Cent albums he produced have girl jams on them but not really stuff in this vein. Eminem, no. Xzibit, no. D.O.C., no. (Bridgette was cut for being too explicit on that one, to be fair, but it's still played more for laughs than sex as I recall.)
comic relief is part of the Dre school of album making, btw...
as for sex, your crazy if you think there isn't plenty of sexual content to go around on albums Dre has overseen...
Chronic- Doctor's office skit and "Bitches Ain't Shit"
Doggystyle- has plenty of sex on the record, tracks like "Gin and Juice" have plenty of sexual content, the Sam Sneed skit has sex content, Lodi Dodi has sexual content, the albums artwork has sexual content, and so on...
50 Cent - "21 Questions", and "P.I.M.P" and maybe a couple others have plenty of sexual content
Eminem- That wasn't really Eminem's style so much. Dre isn't going to dictate to an artist what to do but try to bring out the best in them. I still think there is some twisted sexual commentary in plenty of his rhymes though
Xzibit - "Front to Back", "Fucking You Right"
come on man, your trippin
I wouldn't consider Lodi Dodi, 21 Questions, etc. "hardcore sex songs" which is the verbiage I used. "Bitches Ain't Shit" certainly has sexual content as well, but it's more of a breakup song so to speak than a sex song.
But as someone pointed out, Quik was able to keep his hardcore songs with the flow of the album--I just think the two on Dogg Food did not "flow" with the album.
"Work Dat Pussy" on the Dillinger and Gotti album is a flat out horrible song though. Thankfully it's short.
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Make that pussy talk- feat. paul wall
That shit was terrible
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Make that pussy talk- feat. paul wall
That shit was terrible
oh yeah, exactly, i had forgotten about this song.
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I'll probably catch some hell for this, but I never cared much for If We all Fucc and Some Bomb Azz. To me, they slow the album to a halt, an album that was basically some hard West Coast beats with Kurupt in his prime spitting, and Daz doing pretty well himself. They're not really bad songs I suppose (although you could certainly drop the part with Snoop busting a nut), but don't fit the album.
That kind of comes from the NWA/Dr. Dre school of album making, and who can argue with it considering all the classics?
Basically, the theory goes like this. An album should be something you can listen to the whole way through, sequenced beginning to end, even something you can play at a party. In a party atmosphere and party vibe you can't just hit them off with hardcore shit like "Dogg Pound Gangstaz", "Cyco-lic-no" or "Doggz Day Afternoon".
In the Dre school of album making, an album has to play out more like a movie. You have to have your action scenes balanced out with some sex scenes ("If We All/Bomb Ass") and some personal realization ("I Don't Like To Dream About Getting Paid", "Reality"), and some party jams ("Let's Play House"), maybe some comic relief... That makes for a great movie, a great party, and a great album.
...so it's not simply about putting your best songs onto an album and just going straight for the throat and jugular vein. The album has to be sequenced and balanced for overall effect. Nobody can say shit about Dogg Food because it is a classic.
preach
violence of tha lambz was sequenced wit that exact thought in mind