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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 14, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
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and if I'm lyin, I'm flyin
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Mainstream rap is a tool to suppress the conscious blacks. But there is also hip hop that empowers black people. Even back to the beginning with like the last poets.
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Mainstream rap is a tool to suppress the conscious blacks. But there is also hip hop that empowers black people. Even back to the beginning with like the last poets.
I tried to explain this to him but the guys an idiot lol
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The only idiot here is you Correa.
I'm aware of the Last Poets and have been since the 90s but unfortunately many many generations are not but that's a completely different discussion.
Mainstream Rap is actually more Positive than most things not. The worst thing about Mainstream Rap is the corny music and the Egocentric Essence of it.
But in order to know that you would actually have to know what the Clear Channel Top 50 is but obviously none of you do which is why you made that comment in the first place. That's not to say people don't use those mediums as sources of entertainment but you're over-inflating it's popularity in everyday life. There's probably alot of people who haven't bothered to turn on the radio in years
You're also legally blind if you really think folks (of all ages) listen to Radio like that, let alone sit around watching Videos online and on T.V. all day. That's actually a pretty ignorant statement in 2015
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You are correct, at least for the mainstream.
Alicia Keys talked about it and got in big ass trouble and then went back and recanted her statement.
Mainstream rap is really nothing but popping molly, drank, weed, spending your money to go to the club instead of paying for rent, and fucking as many people as possible.
And people emulate it.
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Alicia Keys is lightweight anyway. She doesn't hold any real water in the game; her and Swiss.
And speaking of Swiss, unless he brings the Digital Game to the very Bottoms of the Trap his shit is irrelevant.
But I commend them for their work over in the East. More people should be doing that, including people over there in the East
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You are correct, at least for the mainstream.
Alicia Keys talked about it and got in big ass trouble and then went back and recanted her statement.
Mainstream rap is really nothing but popping molly, drank, weed, spending your money to go to the club instead of paying for rent, and fucking as many people as possible.
And people emulate it.
i fully agree, kinda sad really
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Mainstream rap is a tool to suppress the conscious blacks. But there is also hip hop that empowers black people. Even back to the beginning with like the last poets.
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Yeah I do have to say that the Mainstream is just as bad as everything not in it's loop.
On one side it's not as vulgar but on the other side it completely lacks nutrition therefore making it just as bad.
Tru dat. But you have to realize that "the underground" is way more explicit. No side of Hip Hop is really safe except for a few artists/rappers here and there.
If a Nigger is saying "Nigga" in his Raps it really doesn't make it anymore better than a French Montana record
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Yeah I do have to say that the Mainstream is just as bad as everything not in it's loop.
On one side it's not as vulgar but on the other side it completely lacks nutrition therefore making it just as bad.
Tru dat. But you have to realize that "the underground" is way more explicit. No side of Hip Hop is really safe except for a few artists/rappers here and there.
If a Nigger is saying "Nigga" in his Raps it really doesn't make it anymore better than a French Montana record
it doesn't make it better but I'm sure that every underground artist is more articulate and wouldn't use the word in the context that french montana may or may not.
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Yeah I do have to say that the Mainstream is just as bad as everything not in it's loop.
On one side it's not as vulgar but on the other side it completely lacks nutrition therefore making it just as bad.
Tru dat. But you have to realize that "the underground" is way more explicit. No side of Hip Hop is really safe except for a few artists/rappers here and there.
If a Nigger is saying "Nigga" in his Raps it really doesn't make it anymore better than a French Montana record
it doesn't make it better but I'm sure that every underground artist is more articulate and wouldn't use the word in the context that french montana may or may not.
That's an assumption. Regardless of how it's used it's still just as bad. If you honestly believe/know that words have power (just like I do) then you'd agree that the word casts a spell on one's mind
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Yeah I do have to say that the Mainstream is just as bad as everything not in it's loop.
On one side it's not as vulgar but on the other side it completely lacks nutrition therefore making it just as bad.
Tru dat. But you have to realize that "the underground" is way more explicit. No side of Hip Hop is really safe except for a few artists/rappers here and there.
If a Nigger is saying "Nigga" in his Raps it really doesn't make it anymore better than a French Montana record
it doesn't make it better but I'm sure that every underground artist is more articulate and wouldn't use the word in the context that french montana may or may not.
That's an assumption. Regardless of how it's used it's still just as bad. If you honestly believe/know that words have power (just like I do) then you'd agree that the word casts a spell on one's mind
sure words do have power but the underground artists aren't pushin' the coonery that french montana is.
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There's no way a 14 year old regardless of ethnicity should be saying it, let alone know it's a word.
Fuck your life story, nobody should be using it. It shouldn't be part of anyone's normal vocabulary
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There's no way a 14 year old regardless of ethnicity should be saying it, let alone know it's a word.
Fuck your life story, nobody should be using it. It shouldn't be part of anyone's normal vocabulary
even if no rappers said the word any more, what about the niggas in the streets ? their still gonna use it. do you still use the word ?
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Yeah I do have to say that the Mainstream is just as bad as everything not in it's loop.
On one side it's not as vulgar but on the other side it completely lacks nutrition therefore making it just as bad.
Tru dat. But you have to realize that "the underground" is way more explicit. No side of Hip Hop is really safe except for a few artists/rappers here and there.
If a Nigger is saying "Nigga" in his Raps it really doesn't make it anymore better than a French Montana record
it doesn't make it better but I'm sure that every underground artist is more articulate and wouldn't use the word in the context that french montana may or may not.
That's an assumption. Regardless of how it's used it's still just as bad. If you honestly believe/know that words have power (just like I do) then you'd agree that the word casts a spell on one's mind
sure words do have power but the underground artists aren't pushin' the coonery that french montana is.
Yeah they do. You can't say becuz you know of 30 EmCees who have a more positive perspective in their music that all of a sudden that's supposed to negate the 10,000,900 others who don't or have that smooth balance between the two sides. That's ignorant
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you can't blame hip hop for 14 year olds usin' profanity blame their parents...some of these parents are doin' a terrible job at raisin' their children but we blamin' hip hop ? come on man !!!!
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this crap has nothing to do with with this section post here http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=3.0
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There's no way a 14 year old regardless of ethnicity should be saying it, let alone know it's a word.
Fuck your life story, nobody should be using it. It shouldn't be part of anyone's normal vocabulary
even if no rappers said the word any more, what about the niggas in the streets ? their still gonna use it. do you still use the word ?
That's y I said earlier before that "it's easier to encourage a child than it is to change an adult" - LaKeisha Brown
We might not reach the 30-somethings or soon to be but we can influence the babies way more easily. And even then I'd betchu alot of those 30-somethings would be alot more conscious if it's executed right. Don't underestimate the fact that most people are sheep regardless of how "intellectual" they come across as
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you can't blame hip hop for 14 year olds usin' profanity blame their parents...some of these parents are doin' a terrible job at raisin' their children but we blamin' hip hop ? come on man !!!!
Exactly, we failed them too. We should've done better by them instead of continue the cycle
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There's no way a 14 year old regardless of ethnicity should be saying it, let alone know it's a word.
Fuck your life story, nobody should be using it. It shouldn't be part of anyone's normal vocabulary
even if no rappers said the word any more, what about the niggas in the streets ? their still gonna use it. do you still use the word ?
That's y I said earlier before that "it's easier to encourage a child than it is to change an adult" - LaKeisha Brown
We might not reach the 30-somethings or soon to be but we can influence the babies way more easily. And even then I'd betchu alot of those 30-somethings would be alot more conscious if it's executed right. Don't underestimate the fact that most people are sheep regardless of how "intellectual" they come across as
it starts in the home bruh....you got parents that say all kinds of wild shit while their kids is listenin' wit no fucks given. if a 4 minute record got more control over a kid than the person who gave them life somethin' is wrong in that home. train a child in the way he should go and when he grow old he will not depart from it.
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this crap has nothing to do with with this section post here http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=3.0
Go back to finding out a new song by a Southern Rapper so you can post the track and pretend to hate it and spam the Outbound Section with useless threads again like you always do.
You make 20 threads in one day and get 30 views and one response.
What I'm talkin about is Hip Hop. If you can't talk about the music then take your lame ass somewhere else. Hater
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There's no way a 14 year old regardless of ethnicity should be saying it, let alone know it's a word.
Fuck your life story, nobody should be using it. It shouldn't be part of anyone's normal vocabulary
even if no rappers said the word any more, what about the niggas in the streets ? their still gonna use it. do you still use the word ?
That's y I said earlier before that "it's easier to encourage a child than it is to change an adult" - LaKeisha Brown
We might not reach the 30-somethings or soon to be but we can influence the babies way more easily. And even then I'd betchu alot of those 30-somethings would be alot more conscious if it's executed right. Don't underestimate the fact that most people are sheep regardless of how "intellectual" they come across as
it starts in the home bruh....you got parents that say all kinds of wild shit while their kids is listenin' wit no fucks given. if a 4 minute record got more control over a kid than the person who gave them life somethin' is wrong in that home. train a child in the way he should go and when he grow old he will not depart from it.
Real life parenting doesn't work that way tho. Once they get past a certain age it's all them (and their friends) at that point. Hopping the nest as I say
And again, we failed them too. Hip Hop is pushin 40 years Bruh Bruh
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this crap has nothing to do with with this section post here http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=3.0
Go back to finding out a new song by a Southern Rapper so you can post the track and pretend to hate it and spam the Outbound Section with useless threads again like you always do.
You make 20 threads in one day and get 30 views and one response.
What I'm talkin about is Hip Hop. If you can't talk about the music then take your lame ass somewhere else. Hater
nobody gives a shit bout this and nothing will change
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There's no way a 14 year old regardless of ethnicity should be saying it, let alone know it's a word.
Fuck your life story, nobody should be using it. It shouldn't be part of anyone's normal vocabulary
even if no rappers said the word any more, what about the niggas in the streets ? their still gonna use it. do you still use the word ?
That's y I said earlier before that "it's easier to encourage a child than it is to change an adult" - LaKeisha Brown
We might not reach the 30-somethings or soon to be but we can influence the babies way more easily. And even then I'd betchu alot of those 30-somethings would be alot more conscious if it's executed right. Don't underestimate the fact that most people are sheep regardless of how "intellectual" they come across as
it starts in the home bruh....you got parents that say all kinds of wild shit while their kids is listenin' wit no fucks given. if a 4 minute record got more control over a kid than the person who gave them life somethin' is wrong in that home. train a child in the way he should go and when he grow old he will not depart from it.
Real life parenting doesn't work that way tho. Once they get past a certain age it's all them (and their friends) at that point. Hopping the nest as I say
And again, we failed them too. Hip Hop is pushin 40 years Bruh Bruh
like I said it starts in the home.
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Personally I don't think this is a stricly black cultural problem
Look at miley cyrus. She's out there encouraging very young girls to behave and dress like sluts. And her MOTHER is her manager. It's a white Trash cash grabbing machine. then u got the kardashians and Paris Hilton sucking dicks on film and still being teen icons and shit on tv. Porn and shit online and this trash celebrity culture doing just as much damage as some rappers
And like Black Excellence said it all stems from bad parenting and a general cultural lack of values. Like a revolution of the mind - out with the old, In with the new. If a teen wants to be a pole dancer she's a feminist! If a mom wants to film herself doing squats to make her booty phat with her toddler in the background she's an empowered female etc etc
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No offense bob but I hate when everybody else tries to jump on the bandwagon like somehow everything effects everybody the same.
Fact is, White People have different sources of inspiration and motivation while Black People have few.
White People have alot of Two Parent households and Black People have few. Which brings me to Black's "it starts in the home" theory...
Black folks households been fucked up since the late 60s/early 70s. I mean you had situations here and there before then but the numbers were far less.
Most images of Blacks in the media are usually Rebel Entertainers and Criminals. Most black art is a reflection of that. Hip Hop created a new reality where "baby mamas" are acceptable. I don't know where y'all are from but it's rare to see Two biological parents raising their child together. We don't encourage that.
We don't encourage hope, we encourage Savages to keep doin wat they doin just for the sake of feeding themselves and their folks, and we do a horrible job at that. They don't realize that the art they draw inspiration from perpetuates a certain frame of mind to keep them that way until God smacks them in the head personally, then they have that Moment Of Clarity. But by then it's mad late in the game and most of the damage is done.
Like it or not Chief Keef has more influence than Common and John Legend. But even if he came out to do charity work today it would only create a contradiction in the child's mind.
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Don't confuse Hip Hop and rap
Hip Hop in its purest form doesn't promote any of that
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Don't confuse Hip Hop and rap
Hip Hop in its purest form doesn't promote any of that
BULLSHIT!
AIN'T no real difference between the two, especially to a child
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Don't confuse Hip Hop and rap
Hip Hop in its purest form doesn't promote any of that
BULLSHIT!
AIN'T no real difference between the two, especially to a child
No difference to an idiot either
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Don't confuse Hip Hop and rap
Hip Hop in its purest form doesn't promote any of that
agreed.
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Don't confuse Hip Hop and rap
Hip Hop in its purest form doesn't promote any of that
BULLSHIT!
AIN'T no real difference between the two, especially to a child
No difference to an idiot either
Point proved
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Dudes need to be sharpenin they precision out here