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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: WestSideDon on March 21, 2015, 04:40:54 AM
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Yo been listening to this album a lot lately so I just thought I'd make a new thread about it to talk a bit about this classic death row/westcoast/gfunk album by daz in his prime (death row) days 8)
What y'all think of the album after the many years its out now ? Is it a classic to y'all ? Any especially underrated tracks on there ? Maybe also some overrated/bad/filler songs for y'all ? What you think of the production on there ? The features ? Daz performance ?
Just discuss it here 8)
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Definitely the best of Daz Dilly's catalog and one of my favorite of all DPGC albums. After RRAGB there weren't too much of that classic g-funk production in daz's music. No fillers but maybe too much features, though the best track hands down is gang bangin ass criminal and O.G. Tray Deee's verse.
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Definitely the best of Daz Dilly's catalog and one of my favorite of all DPGC albums. After RRAGB there weren't too much of that classic g-funk production in daz's music. No fillers but maybe too much features, though the best track hands down is gang bangin ass criminal and O.G. Tray Deee's verse.
That Gang Bangin Ass Criminal track is the shit, still it wouldve been cool if snoop had a verse on it, since they had soopa, kurupt, bad azz, tray dee & techniec on it snoop wouldve been perfectly placed among the other dpgcs here.
O.G. is also dope as hell, Snoop comes smooth as fuck on it and that beat is g funk at its finest. Not to forget nate 8)
Another hit is It might sound crazy with Short Dawg, that track still funky & smooth as fuck, ideal summertime anthem 8)
And In California still smashes 8)
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When this album first came out, I just wasnt really feeling it. Then I put it in one day in that summer, and I didnt stayed in heavy rotation. I bumped it over and over again. For sure Daz best album. I think my favorite track is OH NOOOOOOOOO
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the best track hands down is gang bangin ass criminal and O.G. Tray Deee's verse.
"Gang Bangin Ass Criminal" was a great posse cut and a certified banger to open the album with. They made a mistake by letting the intro run so long and not moving the song to track 2 on the album. But that was cool in those days, I think Biggie had "Kick In The Door" come in after a long skit on Life After Death, so a lot of rappers were doing that in that era.
...I've been giving props to this album for a long time at the forum. While most rap fans were following No Limit, Bad Boy, Ruff Ryders, Roccafella and trash like that... I was still riding for Death Row. By that time, Snoop, Nate, Kurupt, had all fled the label, Suge was of course in prison—and Daz was making a triumphant last stand for Death Row. They even gave him some Vice President title at the time (although that didn't end up amounting to much).
This would be the last great Death Row album, and it was up to the standard that was expected from the label throughout the mid-90's.
I thought "In California" was a perfect lead single. A great song that was hard but still had pop appeal. It's bullshit that the song was not topping the charts. I guess Daz lacked some sort of pop appeal to sell the song. Without Snoop and Dre around to make little cameo's in the video and single I guess MTV wasn't gonna show it no love.
The album is one of the hardest, gangsta rap albums ever made. Tracks like the title track, "Oh No", "Our Daily Bread", "O.G." are all bangers. And "Initiated" is the one track I still hear being bumped to this day in 2015. I think it's an album you can listen to from beginning to end, with no filler. I even like the tracks like "Only For You" and "Baby Mama Drama" or "Thank God For My Life" because I think they provide some balance and sentimentality to an otherwise hardcore gangsta rap album.
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the best track hands down is gang bangin ass criminal and O.G. Tray Deee's verse.
"Gang Bangin Ass Criminal" was a great posse cut and a certified banger to open the album with. They made a mistake by letting the intro run so long and not moving the song to track 2 on the album. But that was cool in those days, I think Biggie had "Kick In The Door" come in after a long skit on Life After Death, so a lot of rappers were doing that in that era.
...I've been giving props to this album for a long time at the forum. While most rap fans were following No Limit, Bad Boy, Ruff Ryders, Roccafella and trash like that... I was still riding for Death Row. By that time, Snoop, Nate, Kurupt, had all fled the label, Suge was of course in prison—and Daz was making a triumphant last stand for Death Row. They even gave him some Vice President title at the time (although that didn't end up amounting to much).
This would be the last great Death Row album, and it was up to the standard that was expected from the label throughout the mid-90's.
I thought "California Love" was a perfect lead single. A great song that was hard but still had pop appeal. It's bullshit that the song was not topping the charts. I guess Daz lacked some sort of pop appeal to sell the song. Without Snoop and Dre around to make little cameo's in the video and single I guess MTV wasn't gonna show it no love.
The album is one of the hardest, gangsta rap albums ever made. Tracks like the title track, "Oh No", "Our Daily Bread", "O.G." are all bangers. And "Initiated" is the one track I still hear being bumped to this day in 2015. I think it's an album you can listen to from beginning to end, with no filler. I even like the tracks like "Only For You" and "Baby Mama Drama" or "Thank God For My Life" because I think they provide some balance and sentimentality to an otherwise hardcore gangsta rap album.
"In California " not "Cali Love"
Besides that im with you !!
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the best track hands down is gang bangin ass criminal and O.G. Tray Deee's verse.
"Gang Bangin Ass Criminal" was a great posse cut and a certified banger to open the album with. They made a mistake by letting the intro run so long and not moving the song to track 2 on the album. But that was cool in those days, I think Biggie had "Kick In The Door" come in after a long skit on Life After Death, so a lot of rappers were doing that in that era.
...I've been giving props to this album for a long time at the forum. While most rap fans were following No Limit, Bad Boy, Ruff Ryders, Roccafella and trash like that... I was still riding for Death Row. By that time, Snoop, Nate, Kurupt, had all fled the label, Suge was of course in prison—and Daz was making a triumphant last stand for Death Row. They even gave him some Vice President title at the time (although that didn't end up amounting to much).
This would be the last great Death Row album, and it was up to the standard that was expected from the label throughout the mid-90's.
I thought "California Love" was a perfect lead single. A great song that was hard but still had pop appeal. It's bullshit that the song was not topping the charts. I guess Daz lacked some sort of pop appeal to sell the song. Without Snoop and Dre around to make little cameo's in the video and single I guess MTV wasn't gonna show it no love.
The album is one of the hardest, gangsta rap albums ever made. Tracks like the title track, "Oh No", "Our Daily Bread", "O.G." are all bangers. And "Initiated" is the one track I still hear being bumped to this day in 2015. I think it's an album you can listen to from beginning to end, with no filler. I even like the tracks like "Only For You" and "Baby Mama Drama" or "Thank God For My Life" because I think they provide some balance and sentimentality to an otherwise hardcore gangsta rap album.
"In California " not "Cali Love"
Besides that im with you !!
sorry, I haven't had my coffee yet today
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RRGB 2????
Does he still got it or he fuck it up??
Expectations?
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RRGB 2????
Does he still got it or he fuck it up??
Expectations?
hell no he doesn't still have it
it'll be garbage with trap beats probably
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as far as underrated tracks on the album I always felt Playa Partna was one of the most slept on song on the album, the groove on that song is crazy and Bila & Daz complement each other well
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This is a spring album to me, when it turns to spring I always want to play this, so now's the time. For some reason Dogg Food is a winter album to me, I guess because of their respective release dates, plus you got the epic line "in the dead of winter I spit my coldest phrases."
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This is a spring album to me, when it turns to spring I always want to play this, so now's the time.
Yep.. this album is a spring album for me, in the way that Warren G's G Funk Era album is a summer album. RRGB came out in march of 98'. Every March I dust off this album. This year will be the exception because I have been living abroad in SouthEast Asia where they only have two seasons, rainy and dry, and it is always hot. So this will be the first year since 98' I won't bump daz in the spring
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the last true great Death Row album :(
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This shut will always be bumping.
G shit at its best.
W
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the last true great Death Row album :(
Right.
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the last true great Death Row album :(
Right.
Exactly... Daz was still on fire at the time and he even had a leftover stash with tracks like "O.G." and "Initiated" that had been around for a while, but sounded fresh and fit his album perfectly.
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Snoop did him a favour when they took O.G. off Doggfather
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the best track hands down is gang bangin ass criminal and O.G. Tray Deee's verse.
"Gang Bangin Ass Criminal" was a great posse cut and a certified banger to open the album with. They made a mistake by letting the intro run so long and not moving the song to track 2 on the album. But that was cool in those days, I think Biggie had "Kick In The Door" come in after a long skit on Life After Death, so a lot of rappers were doing that in that era.
...I've been giving props to this album for a long time at the forum. While most rap fans were following No Limit, Bad Boy, Ruff Ryders, Roccafella and trash like that... I was still riding for Death Row. By that time, Snoop, Nate, Kurupt, had all fled the label, Suge was of course in prison—and Daz was making a triumphant last stand for Death Row. They even gave him some Vice President title at the time (although that didn't end up amounting to much).
This would be the last great Death Row album, and it was up to the standard that was expected from the label throughout the mid-90's.
I thought "In California" was a perfect lead single. A great song that was hard but still had pop appeal. It's bullshit that the song was not topping the charts. I guess Daz lacked some sort of pop appeal to sell the song. Without Snoop and Dre around to make little cameo's in the video and single I guess MTV wasn't gonna show it no love.
The album is one of the hardest, gangsta rap albums ever made. Tracks like the title track, "Oh No", "Our Daily Bread", "O.G." are all bangers. And "Initiated" is the one track I still hear being bumped to this day in 2015. I think it's an album you can listen to from beginning to end, with no filler. I even like the tracks like "Only For You" and "Baby Mama Drama" or "Thank God For My Life" because I think they provide some balance and sentimentality to an otherwise hardcore gangsta rap album.
Pretty much sums up how i feel about this album.
The production was tight (still had that organic sound), lyrics were cool (didn't become cliched) and before Daz started shouting his raps and doing stupid corny adlibs.
The only criticisms are the intro being too long, and the album being too long in general. Either take off 3/4 tracks or make some of the tracks much shorter.
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the best track hands down is gang bangin ass criminal and O.G. Tray Deee's verse.
"Gang Bangin Ass Criminal" was a great posse cut and a certified banger to open the album with. They made a mistake by letting the intro run so long and not moving the song to track 2 on the album. But that was cool in those days, I think Biggie had "Kick In The Door" come in after a long skit on Life After Death, so a lot of rappers were doing that in that era.
...I've been giving props to this album for a long time at the forum. While most rap fans were following No Limit, Bad Boy, Ruff Ryders, Roccafella and trash like that... I was still riding for Death Row. By that time, Snoop, Nate, Kurupt, had all fled the label, Suge was of course in prison—and Daz was making a triumphant last stand for Death Row. They even gave him some Vice President title at the time (although that didn't end up amounting to much).
This would be the last great Death Row album, and it was up to the standard that was expected from the label throughout the mid-90's.
I thought "In California" was a perfect lead single. A great song that was hard but still had pop appeal. It's bullshit that the song was not topping the charts. I guess Daz lacked some sort of pop appeal to sell the song. Without Snoop and Dre around to make little cameo's in the video and single I guess MTV wasn't gonna show it no love.
The album is one of the hardest, gangsta rap albums ever made. Tracks like the title track, "Oh No", "Our Daily Bread", "O.G." are all bangers. And "Initiated" is the one track I still hear being bumped to this day in 2015. I think it's an album you can listen to from beginning to end, with no filler. I even like the tracks like "Only For You" and "Baby Mama Drama" or "Thank God For My Life" because I think they provide some balance and sentimentality to an otherwise hardcore gangsta rap album.
Pretty much sums up how i feel about this album.
The production was tight (still had that organic sound), lyrics were cool (didn't become cliched) and before Daz started shouting his raps and doing stupid corny adlibs.
The only criticisms are the intro being too long, and the album being too long in general. Either take off 3/4 tracks or make some of the tracks much shorter.
Don't have a problem with the intro, the whole idea with the gang meeting fits the album pretty well 8)
But as far as beeing too long, there would only be the 3 tracks that Infinite mentioned (Baby Mama Drama, Only For U, Thank God For My Life) that sometimes can be skipped (although I like Baby Mama Drama, Daz & Style come smooth on that one 8), although they are still good songs and not really filler...
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The O.G. solo version with nate & snoop is better to me, just like it more with a snoop dogg in his prime doing all the verses (dont wanna say daz part is bad, because its definetely not :))
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The O.G. solo version with nate & snoop is better to me, just like it more with a snoop dogg in his prime doing all the verses (dont wanna say daz part is bad, because its definetely not :))
Yeah, it wasn't until WideAwake came out with LostSessions that I actually heard the old version of "O.G." that features two full Snoop verses along with the Snoop interlude and Nate. It is Snoop in his prime, maybe even done around the time of the Doggystyle sessions, because it sounds like that Snoop that was still fresh off the streets. Some of Snoop's best storytelling is on that song and it was a shame that his other verse got cut and never came out in a timely manner. He really needed that song to tighten up the Doggfather album and I don't know how the mistake was made of leaving the track off.
...That said, the RRGB version with Daz was still tight as fucc, and Daz also came hard on the track.
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Was "Ultimate Come Up" on there? I can't remember but was feeling that joint. Of course it sound better with some subs.
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Yeah, Ultimate Come Up is on there.
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DAZ DILLINGER - RETALIATION, REVENGE & GET BACK
(Original Master / December 1997)
01. Intro / Gang Meeting
02. Gang Bangin Ass Criminals
03. Its Going Down
04. Playa Partners
05. It Might Sound Crazy
06. Because Of You Girl
07. In California
08. Initiated
09. Oh No
10. Retaliation Revenge & Get Back
11. OG
12. Baby Mama Drama
13. Only For U
14. Ridin High
15. The Ultimate Come Up
16. Thanks God For My Life
17. Outro / Why Do We Bang
18. Pimp City (Cassette Bonus)
"Our Daily Bread" - Dogg Food leftover previously recorded in 1995
"Because Of You Girl" - original version featuring Outlawz
"Initiated" - recorded during the summer 1996, previously planned for Gridlock'd OST
"Pimp City" - later released in Soopafly Dat Whoopty Woop
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anyone know why that girls face was blurred in the 'in cali vid'?
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(http://i57.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0105/bf/efa7e404624a06f96fb8296f0a5a03bf.jpg)
DAZ DILLINGER - RETALIATION, REVENGE & GET BACK
(Original Master / December 1997)
01. Intro / Gang Meeting
02. Gang Bangin Ass Criminals
03. Its Going Down
04. Playa Partners
05. It Might Sound Crazy
06. Because Of You Girl
07. In California
08. Initiated
09. Oh No
10. Retaliation Revenge & Get Back
11. OG
12. Baby Mama Drama
13. Only For U
14. Ridin High
15. The Ultimate Come Up
16. Thanks God For My Life
17. Outro / Why Do We Bang
18. Pimp City (Cassette Bonus)
"Our Daily Bread" - Dogg Food leftover previously recorded in 1995
"Because Of You Girl" - original version featuring Outlawz
"Initiated" - recorded during the summer 1996, previously planned for Gridlock'd OST
"Pimp City" - later released in Soopafly Dat Whoopty Woop
Where you always get these infos from ? Like The Doggfather Timeline for example ?
Is there also one for this album ?
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I got the album the day it came out and "Because of You" is not on my copy. Also, "Gang Bang..." comes in after the long as intro for track 1, then 2. "It's Goin Down", then 3. "Playa Patnas"... and so on. Btw, not a fan of B-Legit but that "Playa Patna" joint is smooth as fucc in spite of B-Legit and thanks to Daz
...And like what was said above, Kurupt was all over the album, and it's likely he recorded those verses earlier, because he is his usual Death Row self and not just spittin random nonsensical—tyranical bacteria crack your back tortilla tyrantialla—like he did on Kuruption and everything else after leaving Death Row.
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Yep, I bought it release day, no "Because of You Girl" on mine, either. I didn't know there was a cassette only bonus, either. Damn you Death Row, always screwing the CD buyers!
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Pimp City was the bonus on my cassette
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Pimp City was the bonus on my cassette
I never bought the tape so didn't know there was one. I would've for the bonus cut if I had.
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I got the album the day it came out and "Because of You" is not on my copy. Also, "Gang Bang..." comes in after the long as intro for track 1, then 2. "It's Goin Down", then 3. "Playa Patnas"... and so on. Btw, not a fan of B-Legit but that "Playa Patna" joint is smooth as fucc in spite of B-Legit and thanks to Daz
...And like what was said above, Kurupt was all over the album, and it's likely he recorded those verses earlier, because he is his usual Death Row self and not just spittin random nonsensical—tyranical bacteria crack your back tortilla tyrantialla—like he did on Kuruption and everything else after leaving Death Row.
Yeah Kurupt was still in his prime, just look at the Inititated Part 8)
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When did Daz exactly announce a sequel to this ?
I'm afraid if it really comes out shits gonna suck terribly
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the last true great Death Row album :(
nah, Hood Star was.
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the last true great Death Row album :(
nah, Hood Star was.
LMAO not even close
It was Haven't You Heard :monkey:
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Classic Daz!
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the last true great Death Row album :(
nah, Hood Star was.
LMAO not even close
It was Haven't You Heard :monkey: