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Title: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 23, 2015, 11:51:04 AM
Time for this album to get some of the love and respect that it sadly never received.

...This shit is banging.  I heard recently King T was one of B.I.G.'s influences, and it really makes sense to me now.  King T is like a West Coast Biggie (without the overdose of perversion and sexual content in Biggie's records) if you look at his voice, flow, lyrical ability.  Then you got Dre's team behind the boards, I mean.. this is even an album that can grow on you—because at the time Dre was trying to set trends—he wasn't doing this Detox routine of going out and buying beats from outside cats who have a more updated sound.  

The beats are somewhat subtle like the shit Dre was doing with "Been there Done That"—it is more simple, and smooth so some fools who lack insight may overlook the beats—but less is more—and when you get into it that shit is bangin and can even knock you on your fuckin ass if you got the right system.  

"Speak On It"-  fuckin bangs! and King T's lyrics are hard to match!
"Money" - Dre drops 16 on this one, signature Dre banger from that era
"Da Kron" - I think it's a little play on that Jerry Maguire "quan" concept, dope concept and Dre bringin some freshness with the beat, original sound, whistles, high keys
"Got It Locked" - This was the single, kind of a party joint, shit bumps, King T's flow is unfuckwitable, clever metaphors
"That's Drama" - uses that same beat Dre used with that dope Dre solo unreleased "Smoke Weed" with King showin his melodic voice on the hook

...those are some of the highlights, but you really don't have to skip any tracks


Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Fresh Bone on June 23, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
Even with all the Dr. Dre beats on it, I still think "Let's Make A V" is a classic. DJ Quik produced it and smashed the verse, no disrespect to King T and Frost but Quik should have kept that beat for himself and rapped all 3 verses. El DeBarge dropped a classic chorus on it too. What a waste on an album that didn't even get a proper release. Man, Quik was on FIRE those days.
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on June 23, 2015, 01:38:17 PM
still waiting for the song he did w/ Crooked I to leak


those 19th street era Crooked verses were always fire
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: JonnyTanna on June 23, 2015, 03:49:58 PM
I was thinking about Dre being fussy and was always very picky... He must have lost all of that when he dropped 'I need a doctor' that song was so embarrassingly shit. I don't get how people listen to this soft clichéd shit. Point being this makes this album more of a lost opportunity. He could have still dropped it and advertised Eminem's album in the sleeve.

Man I am so disappointed with Dre
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Post by: prince on June 23, 2015, 07:20:22 PM
does anybody have the high quality MP3 of Step On By ft. Dr.Dre off this album?
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on June 23, 2015, 07:40:15 PM
I was thinking about Dre being fussy and was always very picky... He must have lost all of that when he dropped 'I need a doctor' that song was so embarrassingly shit. I don't get how people listen to this soft clichéd shit. Point being this makes this album more of a lost opportunity. He could have still dropped it and advertised Eminem's album in the sleeve.

Man I am so disappointed with Dre

every detox song was awful
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: MUHFUKKA on June 23, 2015, 08:12:24 PM
infant just now heard this for the first time
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: donfathaimmortal on June 24, 2015, 01:27:22 AM
every detox song was awful
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: doggfather on June 24, 2015, 02:02:03 AM
One of the best released unreleased album of all time.
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 24, 2015, 05:15:51 AM
I was thinking about Dre being fussy and was always very picky... He must have lost all of that when he dropped 'I need a doctor' that song was so embarrassingly shit. I don't get how people listen to this soft clichéd shit.

Dre was testing the waters a bit with the releases of "Kush" and "I Need A Doctor".  I thought they were worthy singles, and he probably made some money off advertisements, "I Need A doctor" was like a gatorade commercial
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Will_B on June 24, 2015, 06:28:02 AM
every detox song was awful
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 24, 2015, 09:34:38 AM
every detox song was awful

Even "Topless"?  

I agree, most of it was off target—but one track I don't think anyone can deny is "Topless".  Had Dre done two verses over Em and TI's references—and then Nas offered a spectacular 16.... how can you say EVERY song was awful?
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Will_B on June 24, 2015, 09:51:24 AM
Nothing comparable to Dre's previous solo work
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Blood$ on June 24, 2015, 10:00:22 AM
lol at Infinite just now hearing everything that everyone else heard 10 years ago
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Matty on June 24, 2015, 10:27:19 AM
you mention five tracks but not 'Lets Make A V' :'(
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Blood$ on June 24, 2015, 12:37:41 PM
you mention five tracks but not 'Lets Make A V' :'(

he just now heard the album this week, give him a break
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 24, 2015, 12:42:03 PM
lol at Infinite just now hearing everything that everyone else heard 10 years ago

I was in record stores summer of 98' looking for and anticipating this album, I remember everything from seeing the "Got It Locked" video on BET that summer to seeing ads and articles in the Source about it—and I heard it when it first leaked in 02'.  This is just an appreciation thread, but then again, I know you just make shit up to try to piss me off.
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Blood$ on June 24, 2015, 12:43:30 PM
lol at Infinite just now hearing everything that everyone else heard 10 years ago

I was in record stores summer of 98' looking for and anticipating this album, and I heard it when it first leaked in 02'.  This is just an appreciation thread, but then again, I know you just make shit up to try to piss me off.

what did I say that was made up?
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mr. Theo on June 24, 2015, 12:53:36 PM
you mention five tracks but not 'Lets Make A V' :'(

suspicious
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Giesuz on June 24, 2015, 01:15:33 PM
Nothing comparable to Dre's previous solo work

solo work sounds funny when we talk about Dre. it`s even hard to name 10 solo tracks with 3 verses from dre and no featuring artist on!
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sccit on June 24, 2015, 01:36:45 PM
CLASSIC ALBUM
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: johnnie360 on June 25, 2015, 10:24:50 PM
I know that I am in the minority here, but that album was a waste of good beats to me. King T is boring, and I don't like his voice. Just my opinion though. Best thing about that album were the beats and the features.
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on June 26, 2015, 12:07:07 PM
lol at Infinite just now hearing everything that everyone else heard 10 years ago
Title: Re: King T - They Kingdom Come Appreciation Thread
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 27, 2015, 07:39:03 PM
Nothing comparable to Dre's previous solo work

solo work sounds funny when we talk about Dre. it`s even hard to name 10 solo tracks with 3 verses from dre and no featuring artist on!

Dre is one of the best ever to bless the mic, very under-rated, simply because he is known as a producer and desnt write his own material.

But imagine if Dre was not known as a producer and did write his own shit we would be talking about a legendary top 5 all-time emcee.... check these solo joints from Dre where he blesses all 3 verses and they are some of they are all trend-setting and undeniable verses....

-"Keep the Heads ringing" - he out-metaphored all the East-Coast rappers at the time and I see this as similar to what Kurupt accomplished with new york new york

-"Let Me Ride"- funny when I first saw this video as a kid in 93' I actually thought snoop and dre were a rap group and when this video dropped I realized dre was a solo artist

-"Nigga wit a gun" - this is THE hardest gangsta shit ever recorded.   That's right, think of all the wannabe gangsta rappers and this track topped them all

-"Rat-tat-tat-tat"- see what I wrote above, the hardest shit ever recorded courtesy of a man who doesn't even consider himself a rapper, that shows you how humble dre really is

...those are his best but he has more st8 solo records from solid unreleased shit like "way I be pimpin" and "smoke weed" to his steller aftermath solos like "been there done that" and "the watcher"