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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Game-Won on October 14, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
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http://hiphopdx.com/editorials/id.3065/title.the-game-vs-50-cent-which-emcee-has-the-better-post-beef-discography
I like Game more, but what yall think?
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game is better in pretty much every facet....only think 50 got on game is hooks and bridges
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one is still putting out new good music and is still relevant
while the other is bankrupt irrelevant and hasn't had a hit in almost 10 years you tell me :D
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I like both of 'em even though as a Veteran Westcoast fan I always took Game side in the past but now if you're looking at their catalogue, Game discography is way better than 50.
Get Rich Or Die Tryin' is the only 50 album I really enjoyed, the rest wasn't so good
Regarding Game, The Documentary, Doctor's Advocate and LAX were great albums, Red was good but not extraordinary, Jesus Piece wasn't all that, Year of The Wolf was coo and The Doc 2 is probably the 3rd best Game album
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I like both of 'em even though as a Veteran Westcoast fan I always took Game side in the past but now if you're looking at their catalogue, Game discography is way better than 50.
Yeah, 50 got stale pretty quickly. Game has certainly had his down-moments as well but I'm much more interested in what he's doing these days than 50.
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for me, both were overhyped bubble gum rappers from the interscope/aftermath/shady factory when they makin their biggest hits.
Nowdays, both are washed up.
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50, for right or wrong, created his own lane as an artist. To me, Game never quite carved his own niche. Everything that he put together from albums to groups to concepts seemed like it was derived from ideas created by other rappers. Black Wall Street, Hurricane Game, The Red Album, M.O.B., Goon Squad, Blood Money. Conceptually, I think 50 is more unique of an artist.
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50, for right or wrong, created his own lane as an artist. To me, Game never quite carved his own niche. Everything that he put together from albums to groups to concepts seemed like it was derived from ideas created by other rappers. Black Wall Street, Hurricane Game, The Red Album, M.O.B., Goon Squad, Blood Money. Conceptually, I think 50 is more unique of an artist.
That's true, but when was the last time he actually put out an interesting project? The guy almost seemed to fizzle away with the rest of the guys in G-Unit musically speaking. I give him his props as a businessman with everything he's created, but to me Game is a much more entertaining artist to listen to these days.
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The Game has the more consistent discography.
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50, for right or wrong, created his own lane as an artist. To me, Game never quite carved his own niche. Everything that he put together from albums to groups to concepts seemed like it was derived from ideas created by other rappers. Black Wall Street, Hurricane Game, The Red Album, M.O.B., Goon Squad, Blood Money. Conceptually, I think 50 is more unique of an artist.
You said all that but can you really and I mean really say 50's discography is anywhere as good as Games. 50 is the artist that actually needs to be in a group. Nobody wants to hear 3 verse songs from 50 no more.
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50, for right or wrong, created his own lane as an artist. To me, Game never quite carved his own niche. Everything that he put together from albums to groups to concepts seemed like it was derived from ideas created by other rappers. Black Wall Street, Hurricane Game, The Red Album, M.O.B., Goon Squad, Blood Money. Conceptually, I think 50 is more unique of an artist.
You said all that but can you really and I mean really say 50's discography is anywhere as good as Games. 50 is the artist that actually needs to be in a group. Nobody wants to hear 3 verse songs from 50 no more.
If it were 2000-2004 era 50 Cent, I would love to hear a 3 or more verse song from 50. Example of sticking to your true calling being nearly destroyed by trying to be a business man.
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You said all that but can you really and I mean really say 50's discography is anywhere as good as Games. 50 is the artist that actually needs to be in a group. Nobody wants to hear 3 verse songs from 50 no more.
Yes, I could. I think it's hard to compare one to another because Game has never been in a 50 Cent position. He is a very good artist but he's never really been pressured to innovate as a solo artist. He's always gravitated towards associating himself with what is hot. He surrounds himself with A-list talent. His debut album was the best work coming out of his camp being handed to him to perform on. He was Pac with "All Eyez On Me". The difference was Pac followed that up with "Makaveli", a personal concept album done with very few established guests and next to no major producers. Game has a great talent pool of producers and artists to work with and can excel at riding popular formulas. I think 50 touched greatness a few times and actually developed his own style.
I think Game's strength is the mechanics of rapping. He has an incredibly powerful flow and can use it to his advantage. There isn't the complex conversational aspect to his lyrics that you get from say, Tupac or Eminem. It's all personal preference though. Some people get so caught up in production that they don't care about anything else. Game is dope but I still wish he'd delivered on that album he talked about doing with no guests and no name-dropping. Would have been interesting to see how he would have done.
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This Documentary 2.5 is the album I've been wanting Game to make for a while now. The industry name drops are at an all time low, introspective tracks and a westcoast feel. This shit bangs foreal
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This Documentary 2.5 is the album I've been wanting Game to make for a while now. The industry name drops are at an all time low, introspective tracks and a westcoast feel. This shit bangs foreal
Sounds awesome! I'm still waiting to get first disc in the mail and will probably grab 2.5 tomorrow. Hope it's as dope as you say.
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I know this is westcoast forum but some of you really talk down on 50's discography. From Power of the Dollar-Get Rich or Die Tryin'-Beg For Mercy-The Massacre-Get Rich or Die Tryin' Soundtrack dude felt like he was invincible. Let's not forget the G-Unit Radio mixtapes. They did like 20+ hard mixtapes. Curtis was aight but Before I Self Destruct's first half was incredible. Animal Ambition felt like it was a mixtape and latest record 9 Shots was something I wanted to hear from him.
I grew up in LA and honestly, we bumped his music like he was one of our own. Let's not forget Hate It or Love It and How We Do was suppose to be on The Massacre. I honestly thought it was a 50 Cent record when I first heard it on a radio.
No doubt Game has sick discography and he did it big with Documentary 2 because that was the type of album I was expecting from Game (Not some Jesus Piece shit). But the beef is old now.
I'm honestly a fan of both rappers and wish Game didn't do the flip flops he did every year. That's probably what's holding back the reunion. The inconsistency.
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I'd pick 50, altho Game has more dope albums.
But:
top 50 material >>>> top game material
And most of you are probably sleeping on some new 50 music, check: "Cant help myself", "9 shots", "irregular heartbeat" - all dope songs
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Game destroyed fiddy ciddy years ago
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Game destroyed fiddy ciddy years ago
Funny how people still won't admit it. Can't front, there's a couple of Fiddy songs here and there hr releases I'll listen to but to get am album from him, nahhh not gonna be able to do it.
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I know this is westcoast forum but some of you really talk down on 50's discography. From Power of the Dollar-Get Rich or Die Tryin'-Beg For Mercy-The Massacre-Get Rich or Die Tryin' Soundtrack dude felt like he was invincible. Let's not forget the G-Unit Radio mixtapes. They did like 20+ hard mixtapes. Curtis was aight but Before I Self Destruct's first half was incredible. Animal Ambition felt like it was a mixtape and latest record 9 Shots was something I wanted to hear from him.
But most of what you mention there is over a decade old. I loved GRODT, Beg for Mercy, etc but IMO 50 hasn't put out anything worth listening to in years while Game is at least still an interesting artist.
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I know this is westcoast forum but some of you really talk down on 50's discography. From Power of the Dollar-Get Rich or Die Tryin'-Beg For Mercy-The Massacre-Get Rich or Die Tryin' Soundtrack dude felt like he was invincible. Let's not forget the G-Unit Radio mixtapes. They did like 20+ hard mixtapes. Curtis was aight but Before I Self Destruct's first half was incredible. Animal Ambition felt like it was a mixtape and latest record 9 Shots was something I wanted to hear from him.
But most of what you mention there is over a decade old. I loved GRODT, Beg for Mercy, etc but IMO 50 hasn't put out anything worth listening to in years while Game is at least still an interesting artist.
50's last project was under-rated in my book, didn't get enough love and it was his best work in years... but it's pretty forgettable compared to TD2 lol
both G-Unit EPs from the past year were solid too
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I know this is westcoast forum but some of you really talk down on 50's discography. From Power of the Dollar-Get Rich or Die Tryin'-Beg For Mercy-The Massacre-Get Rich or Die Tryin' Soundtrack dude felt like he was invincible. Let's not forget the G-Unit Radio mixtapes. They did like 20+ hard mixtapes. Curtis was aight but Before I Self Destruct's first half was incredible. Animal Ambition felt like it was a mixtape and latest record 9 Shots was something I wanted to hear from him.
But most of what you mention there is over a decade old. I loved GRODT, Beg for Mercy, etc but IMO 50 hasn't put out anything worth listening to in years while Game is at least still an interesting artist.
50's last project was under-rated in my book, didn't get enough love and it was his best work in years... but it's pretty forgettable compared to TD2 lol
both G-Unit EPs from the past year were solid too
I actually never checked out those EPs, remember liking a few of the tracks they put out around that time.
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only reason i ever liked 50 was for his involvement wit dre.....if he was never on aftermath, he'd be nothin but another east coast artist to me, like papoose or some shit.
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only reason i ever liked 50 was for his involvement wit dre.....if he was never on aftermath, he'd be nothin but another east coast artist to me, like papoose or some shit.
facts... he would have just been in the same realm as Papoose, Saigon, Uncle Murda, Red Cafe, etc.
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Game is better in every department except possibly hook-singing and that last part I will only give to 50 on objective grounds, because I've never personally been that big on his hooks.
Get Rich and The Massacre each had some good tracks, but after the Massacre 50 has barely done anything worth keeping.
As for Game:
The Documentary: Classic
The Doctor's Advocate: Even better than The Documentary
LAX: Solid album - much better than its reputation.
RED album: A disappointment. My least played Game album. "The City" is a classic cut though.
Jesus Piece: Not my style, but a solid album.
Doc 2 + 2.5: Solid albums, but would have been better as a single album of the best cuts along with a street mixtape of the lesser cuts.
The main difference between the two as rappers though, is that 50 peaked in 2003-05 and then fell off heavily, while Game has pretty much only gotten better as a rapper. His albums haven't been improving, but he has grown as a rapper. I never used to consider Game a particularly skilled rapper. His strength was in having a great voice and knowing how to use it to great effect, pick the right flows for beats, etc. Today I regard him as a very skilled rapper.
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Game is better in every department except possibly hook-singing and that last part I will only give to 50 on objective grounds, because I've never personally been that big on his hooks.
I think it's all perception. Game makes "compilation albums". Documentary 2.5 has 31 guest artists on it and only one solo track. 50 has had 30 total guests artists on his entire discography from 2003 to now. 50's movie soundtrack has more solo tracks than all but one of Game's albums. It also has less guest artists. Game's albums are loaded with top guests, tributes, name-dropping, and whole songs done in the style of other rappers. He's great at knowing what wagons to attach his horse to but how much of his strength is in the originality of his presentation?
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Game is better in every department except possibly hook-singing and that last part I will only give to 50 on objective grounds, because I've never personally been that big on his hooks.
I think it's all perception. Game makes "compilation albums". Documentary 2.5 has 31 guest artists on it and only one solo track. 50 has had 30 total guests artists on his entire discography from 2003 to now. 50's movie soundtrack has more solo tracks than all but one of Game's albums. It also has less guest artists. Game's albums are loaded with top guests, tributes, name-dropping, and whole songs done in the style of other rappers. He's great at knowing what wagons to attach his horse to but how much of his strength is in the originality of his presentation?
I know documentary 2 has a lot of features, but u can barely tell listening to it
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I know documentary 2 has a lot of features, but u can barely tell listening to it
I don't know. I just finished bumping Documentary 2.5 (after listening to the first one before that) and it was pretty aware to me. Even his skits are kind of pushing that whole name-dropping, guest-friendly vibe. He starts by talking to Sway about 50 Cent and along the way, there's little history lessons on gang founders. He's got a song talking about Suge Knight and Tupac where he puts Scarface on it. He does a DJ Quik track where he flows like Suga Free. He's got a song about Biggie where he has Puffy talking about getting a car and a Blood set pass from him. There were numerous tracks where on one listen, I could hear him emphasizing popular lines from other people's songs. He's even got fucking W-Ballz radio drops in there. The music and production is certainly top notch but the content is still "let's do a verse with a rapper I love where I talk about how much I love them and have them co-sign me by appearing on it". You give a very average rapper this same production line-up and guest list and I would buy it because it has every great new and old school rapper I enjoy on there. It's a very low-risk concept. To me, a lot of these tracks sound incredible but it goes back to the formula of just rocking a great record.
He's literally had every important rapper/producer that he could on every album he's done since his debut. The only he hasn't done is Jay-Z and that's because Jay wouldn't do a track with him. He's had the hottest productions from Dr. Dre, Kanye West, Timbaland, Pharell, Scott Storch, DJ Khali, Just Blaze, Hi-Tek, Cool & Dre, DJ Premier, Jellyroll, Havoc, Swizz Beatz, DJ Quik, Will.i.am, and the list goes on. He's worked with 50 Cent, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Nas, Mary J. Blige, Fergie, Nate Dogg, Raekwon, Scarface, Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Diddy, Kanye West, DMX, Common, Ice Cube, Travis Barker, Kendrick Lamar, Chris Brown, Rick Ross, Drake, E-40, Big Boi, J. Cole, 2 Chainz, Jamie Foxx. He literally makes albums with just about every popular rapper from every region where he name-drops every popular artist has died and every popular movie that's been out in the last 20 years. He seems more like people are just happy to have a West Coast rapper name-dropping all the albums and artists they like. If he talks about doing some gangsta stuff, it just sounds the same but if he mentions that he's doing it while bumping Dogg Food, suddenly everyone gets the cold chills.
I'm really not trying to come off like I'm knocking the guy but it's been 10 years, when is he going to challenge himself as an artist, in terms of pushing the envelope? You can certainly make the argument that 50 Cent's music career fell a little but he at least gambled. He put his crew out and got them established. All the greats have. It took people a minute to catch on with Kendrick because he was trying new things but that's the joy in experimenting.
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I know documentary 2 has a lot of features, but u can barely tell listening to it
I don't know. I just finished bumping Documentary 2.5 (after listening to the first one before that) and it was pretty aware to me. Even his skits are kind of pushing that whole name-dropping, guest-friendly vibe. He starts by talking to Sway about 50 Cent and along the way, there's little history lessons on gang founders. He's got a song talking about Suge Knight and Tupac where he puts Scarface on it. He does a DJ Quik track where he flows like Suga Free. He's got a song about Biggie where he has Puffy talking about getting a car and a Blood set pass from him. There were numerous tracks where on one listen, I could hear him emphasizing popular lines from other people's songs. He's even got fucking W-Ballz radio drops in there. The music and production is certainly top notch but the content is still "let's do a verse with a rapper I love where I talk about how much I love them and have them co-sign me by appearing on it". You give a very average rapper this same production line-up and guest list and I would buy it because it has every great new and old school rapper I enjoy on there. It's a very low-risk concept. To me, a lot of these tracks sound incredible but it goes back to the formula of just rocking a great record.
He's literally had every important rapper/producer that he could on every album he's done since his debut. The only he hasn't done is Jay-Z and that's because Jay wouldn't do a track with him. He's had the hottest productions from Dr. Dre, Kanye West, Timbaland, Pharell, Scott Storch, DJ Khali, Just Blaze, Hi-Tek, Cool & Dre, DJ Premier, Jellyroll, Havoc, Swizz Beatz, DJ Quik, Will.i.am, and the list goes on. He's worked with 50 Cent, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Nas, Mary J. Blige, Fergie, Nate Dogg, Raekwon, Scarface, Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Diddy, Kanye West, DMX, Common, Ice Cube, Travis Barker, Kendrick Lamar, Chris Brown, Rick Ross, Drake, E-40, Big Boi, J. Cole, 2 Chainz, Jamie Foxx. He literally makes albums with just about every popular rapper from every region where he name-drops every popular artist has died and every popular movie that's been out in the last 20 years. He seems more like people are just happy to have a West Coast rapper name-dropping all the albums and artists they like. If he talks about doing some gangsta stuff, it just sounds the same but if he mentions that he's doing it while bumping Dogg Food, suddenly everyone gets the cold chills.
I'm really not trying to come off like I'm knocking the guy but it's been 10 years, when is he going to challenge himself as an artist, in terms of pushing the envelope? You can certainly make the argument that 50 Cent's music career fell a little but he at least gambled. He put his crew out and got them established. All the greats have. It took people a minute to catch on with Kendrick because he was trying new things but that's the joy in experimenting.
I know exactly what u mean, but that's just who he is .. The guy who makes himself feel big by talkin up every1 in his crew and ridin the wave of their vibes. We all know some1 like that. It all boils down to him bein a good rapper with great production. Nothing in his content has ever been tremendous, and it never will. But it sounds good on a consistent basis.. 50 Cent also has a very repetitive sound, but the difference is that his production hasnt consistently banged like Game's...and 50s style just doesn't go as hard as far as voice, flow, and delivery. I was never a huge Game fan, but he knows how to make a hot song.. Nothin more nothin less.
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I know documentary 2 has a lot of features, but u can barely tell listening to it
I don't know. I just finished bumping Documentary 2.5 (after listening to the first one before that) and it was pretty aware to me. Even his skits are kind of pushing that whole name-dropping, guest-friendly vibe. He starts by talking to Sway about 50 Cent and along the way, there's little history lessons on gang founders. He's got a song talking about Suge Knight and Tupac where he puts Scarface on it. He does a DJ Quik track where he flows like Suga Free. He's got a song about Biggie where he has Puffy talking about getting a car and a Blood set pass from him. There were numerous tracks where on one listen, I could hear him emphasizing popular lines from other people's songs. He's even got fucking W-Ballz radio drops in there. The music and production is certainly top notch but the content is still "let's do a verse with a rapper I love where I talk about how much I love them and have them co-sign me by appearing on it". You give a very average rapper this same production line-up and guest list and I would buy it because it has every great new and old school rapper I enjoy on there. It's a very low-risk concept. To me, a lot of these tracks sound incredible but it goes back to the formula of just rocking a great record.
He's literally had every important rapper/producer that he could on every album he's done since his debut. The only he hasn't done is Jay-Z and that's because Jay wouldn't do a track with him. He's had the hottest productions from Dr. Dre, Kanye West, Timbaland, Pharell, Scott Storch, DJ Khali, Just Blaze, Hi-Tek, Cool & Dre, DJ Premier, Jellyroll, Havoc, Swizz Beatz, DJ Quik, Will.i.am, and the list goes on. He's worked with 50 Cent, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Nas, Mary J. Blige, Fergie, Nate Dogg, Raekwon, Scarface, Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Diddy, Kanye West, DMX, Common, Ice Cube, Travis Barker, Kendrick Lamar, Chris Brown, Rick Ross, Drake, E-40, Big Boi, J. Cole, 2 Chainz, Jamie Foxx. He literally makes albums with just about every popular rapper from every region where he name-drops every popular artist has died and every popular movie that's been out in the last 20 years. He seems more like people are just happy to have a West Coast rapper name-dropping all the albums and artists they like. If he talks about doing some gangsta stuff, it just sounds the same but if he mentions that he's doing it while bumping Dogg Food, suddenly everyone gets the cold chills.
I'm really not trying to come off like I'm knocking the guy but it's been 10 years, when is he going to challenge himself as an artist, in terms of pushing the envelope? You can certainly make the argument that 50 Cent's music career fell a little but he at least gambled. He put his crew out and got them established. All the greats have. It took people a minute to catch on with Kendrick because he was trying new things but that's the joy in experimenting.
I know exactly what u mean, but that's just who he is .. The guy who makes himself feel big by talkin up every1 in his crew and ridin the wave of their vibes. We all know some1 like that. It all boils down to him bein a good rapper with great production. Nothing in his content has ever been tremendous, and it never will. But it sounds good on a consistent basis.. 50 Cent also has a very repetitive sound, but the difference is that his production hasnt consistently banged like Game's...and 50s style just doesn't go as hard as far as voice, flow, and delivery. I was never a huge Game fan, but he knows how to make a hot song.. Nothin more nothin less.
On point.
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I know documentary 2 has a lot of features, but u can barely tell listening to it
I don't know. I just finished bumping Documentary 2.5 (after listening to the first one before that) and it was pretty aware to me. Even his skits are kind of pushing that whole name-dropping, guest-friendly vibe. He starts by talking to Sway about 50 Cent and along the way, there's little history lessons on gang founders. He's got a song talking about Suge Knight and Tupac where he puts Scarface on it. He does a DJ Quik track where he flows like Suga Free. He's got a song about Biggie where he has Puffy talking about getting a car and a Blood set pass from him. There were numerous tracks where on one listen, I could hear him emphasizing popular lines from other people's songs. He's even got fucking W-Ballz radio drops in there. The music and production is certainly top notch but the content is still "let's do a verse with a rapper I love where I talk about how much I love them and have them co-sign me by appearing on it". You give a very average rapper this same production line-up and guest list and I would buy it because it has every great new and old school rapper I enjoy on there. It's a very low-risk concept. To me, a lot of these tracks sound incredible but it goes back to the formula of just rocking a great record.
He's literally had every important rapper/producer that he could on every album he's done since his debut. The only he hasn't done is Jay-Z and that's because Jay wouldn't do a track with him. He's had the hottest productions from Dr. Dre, Kanye West, Timbaland, Pharell, Scott Storch, DJ Khali, Just Blaze, Hi-Tek, Cool & Dre, DJ Premier, Jellyroll, Havoc, Swizz Beatz, DJ Quik, Will.i.am, and the list goes on. He's worked with 50 Cent, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Nas, Mary J. Blige, Fergie, Nate Dogg, Raekwon, Scarface, Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Diddy, Kanye West, DMX, Common, Ice Cube, Travis Barker, Kendrick Lamar, Chris Brown, Rick Ross, Drake, E-40, Big Boi, J. Cole, 2 Chainz, Jamie Foxx. He literally makes albums with just about every popular rapper from every region where he name-drops every popular artist has died and every popular movie that's been out in the last 20 years. He seems more like people are just happy to have a West Coast rapper name-dropping all the albums and artists they like. If he talks about doing some gangsta stuff, it just sounds the same but if he mentions that he's doing it while bumping Dogg Food, suddenly everyone gets the cold chills.
I'm really not trying to come off like I'm knocking the guy but it's been 10 years, when is he going to challenge himself as an artist, in terms of pushing the envelope? You can certainly make the argument that 50 Cent's music career fell a little but he at least gambled. He put his crew out and got them established. All the greats have. It took people a minute to catch on with Kendrick because he was trying new things but that's the joy in experimenting.
Agree with that.
50 is definitely better artist/musician than Game. 50 told his story, with his own words, making his own brand and blowing up with lot of noise. While Game's albums are pretty much primitive when it comes to making sense. He surely got top notch production i always enjoyed on his albums, he always picks the dopest beats. There aren't many fillers on his albums (take out RED and Jesus Piece - i dont feel those). But, well - i always considered Game like shit of a person, no character, mentality of a kid, doesnt sound real to me at all.
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why u retards still on this
50 is a fluke he will never comeback his music career is over
game is still around and still a lil relevant so now you know who won
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why u retards still on this
50 is a fluke he will never comeback his music career is over
game is still around and still a lil relevant so now you know who won
This thread has had much more interesting discussions than any of the click-bait gossip threads you make.
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why u retards still on this
50 is a fluke he will never comeback his music career is over
game is still around and still a lil relevant so now you know who won
This thread has had much more interesting discussions than any of the click-bait gossip threads you make.
u think so retard lol
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50 is definitely better artist/musician than Game. 50 told his story, with his own words, making his own brand and blowing up with lot of noise. While Game's albums are pretty much primitive when it comes to making sense. He surely got top notch production i always enjoyed on his albums, he always picks the dopest beats. There aren't many fillers on his albums (take out RED and Jesus Piece - i dont feel those). But, well - i always considered Game like shit of a person, no character, mentality of a kid, doesnt sound real to me at all.
You've got a point here, no doubt about that.
However, Game has some undeniable qualities:
- Has grown as a rapper throughout the last 10 years, while most get worse over time (including 50 Cent)
- Has a great ear for beats
- Has grown to be a very versatile rapper. Sure, a lot of it is jacking other rappers flows, but still very versatile.
- Is very good at using his voice for optimal effect - picking the right flows etc. For instance, he sounds awesome on "The City". A very simplistic rap, but it just sounds great.
- Consistently puts out good music.
Overall, The Game will probably not go down in history as an alltime great MC, but he does have one of the most consistently strong catalogues in hip-hop.
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why u retards still on this
50 is a fluke he will never comeback his music career is over
game is still around and still a lil relevant so now you know who won
This thread has had much more interesting discussions than any of the click-bait gossip threads you make.
u think so retard lol
Calling someone a retard doesn't really work when you have trouble typing coherent sentences. Just stick to scanning the web for gossip articles little buddy, everyone here really loves reading them.
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That whole "ear for beats" thing has never flown with me. He's getting basically first dibs on all the best producers in music. Jay-Z had a wonderful ear too when A-list producers were sending him their best stuff. His ear for beats seems to be great when his budgets are in place for the best but that Blood Moon compilation and Jesus Piece don't seem to be benefiting from that magic ear.
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That whole "ear for beats" thing has never flown with me. He's getting basically first dibs on all the best producers in music. Jay-Z had a wonderful ear too when A-list producers were sending him their best stuff. His ear for beats seems to be great when his budgets are in place for the best but that Blood Moon compilation and Jesus Piece don't seem to be benefiting from that magic ear.
i never listened to blood moon, but jesus piece had some bangin production......lota rappers have a top-of-the-line budget and still have a terrible beat selection, so your logic makes no sense
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why u retards still on this
50 is a fluke he will never comeback his music career is over
game is still around and still a lil relevant so now you know who won
This thread has had much more interesting discussions than any of the click-bait gossip threads you make.
u think so retard lol
Calling someone a retard doesn't really work when you have trouble typing coherent sentences. Just stick to scanning the web for gossip articles little buddy, everyone here really loves reading them.
anytime retard and u can stick to talking bout the same washed up trash
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lota rappers have a top-of-the-line budget and still have a terrible beat selection, so your logic makes no sense
Big budgets are a great thing to have but connections go a little further. I would say it's less a budget thing and more an access thing.
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I know documentary 2 has a lot of features, but u can barely tell listening to it
I don't know. I just finished bumping Documentary 2.5 (after listening to the first one before that) and it was pretty aware to me. Even his skits are kind of pushing that whole name-dropping, guest-friendly vibe. He starts by talking to Sway about 50 Cent and along the way, there's little history lessons on gang founders. He's got a song talking about Suge Knight and Tupac where he puts Scarface on it. He does a DJ Quik track where he flows like Suga Free. He's got a song about Biggie where he has Puffy talking about getting a car and a Blood set pass from him. There were numerous tracks where on one listen, I could hear him emphasizing popular lines from other people's songs. He's even got fucking W-Ballz radio drops in there. The music and production is certainly top notch but the content is still "let's do a verse with a rapper I love where I talk about how much I love them and have them co-sign me by appearing on it". You give a very average rapper this same production line-up and guest list and I would buy it because it has every great new and old school rapper I enjoy on there. It's a very low-risk concept. To me, a lot of these tracks sound incredible but it goes back to the formula of just rocking a great record.
He's literally had every important rapper/producer that he could on every album he's done since his debut. The only he hasn't done is Jay-Z and that's because Jay wouldn't do a track with him. He's had the hottest productions from Dr. Dre, Kanye West, Timbaland, Pharell, Scott Storch, DJ Khali, Just Blaze, Hi-Tek, Cool & Dre, DJ Premier, Jellyroll, Havoc, Swizz Beatz, DJ Quik, Will.i.am, and the list goes on. He's worked with 50 Cent, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Nas, Mary J. Blige, Fergie, Nate Dogg, Raekwon, Scarface, Snoop Dogg, Busta Rhymes, Diddy, Kanye West, DMX, Common, Ice Cube, Travis Barker, Kendrick Lamar, Chris Brown, Rick Ross, Drake, E-40, Big Boi, J. Cole, 2 Chainz, Jamie Foxx. He literally makes albums with just about every popular rapper from every region where he name-drops every popular artist has died and every popular movie that's been out in the last 20 years. He seems more like people are just happy to have a West Coast rapper name-dropping all the albums and artists they like. If he talks about doing some gangsta stuff, it just sounds the same but if he mentions that he's doing it while bumping Dogg Food, suddenly everyone gets the cold chills.
I'm really not trying to come off like I'm knocking the guy but it's been 10 years, when is he going to challenge himself as an artist, in terms of pushing the envelope? You can certainly make the argument that 50 Cent's music career fell a little but he at least gambled. He put his crew out and got them established. All the greats have. It took people a minute to catch on with Kendrick because he was trying new things but that's the joy in experimenting.
I know exactly what u mean, but that's just who he is .. The guy who makes himself feel big by talkin up every1 in his crew and ridin the wave of their vibes. We all know some1 like that. It all boils down to him bein a good rapper with great production. Nothing in his content has ever been tremendous, and it never will. But it sounds good on a consistent basis.. 50 Cent also has a very repetitive sound, but the difference is that his production hasnt consistently banged like Game's...and 50s style just doesn't go as hard as far as voice, flow, and delivery. I was never a huge Game fan, but he knows how to make a hot song.. Nothin more nothin less.
On point.
Agree with both Scitt & Jimmy H.
Actually, that's Game's schtick, impersonating other rappers' styles as a form of homage, hence the heavy name dropping that can get weird. And it's conscious, that's Game's stance on rap. He's a dedicated student and fan. As soon as you accept it and get past that, you can fully appreciate Game.
I think 50 is the better artist in terms of vision, songwriting, concepts and charisma. The whole package sounds more balanced and coherent. But in terms of raw talent, Game is far more skilled as a rapper / MC. He can ride a beat way better, and as a professional impersonator, he has the ability to pick up on any type of flow, which his an outstanding quality in rap. His wordplay is definitely nice. What I dislike about him is how he crams his albums with meaningless features and dickrides some of them, which gives his albums little to no direction. And that's why I liked 2.0 a lot (and actually better than 2.5), was the fact he had very few features compared to his other efforts and he sounded less weird than usual. Cause one thing about Game, is that, as BiggSadot put it in an old thread, he's a complete weirdo lol. He's like an emotional retarded high school jock who never matured past high school, always going on rants, soliloquies where he sucks other people's dicks and brags about the weirdest shit and likes to pose half naked on his instagram with erotic captions lol (no wonder dude was a male stripper at one point).
But as someone said in the thread, dude has a solid discography at the end of the day even if I don't rate many of his albums highly, he happens to have a lot of songs here and there ranging from dope to excellent. Even his pre-Aftermath shit has aged well, and that's a surprise to me. Cause I never thought his work with JT The Bigga Figga (and I'm like the biggest fan of his and Sean-T who produced the albums) was really memorable, but it still sounds surprisingly hot and fresh to this day).
Calling someone a retard doesn't really work when you have trouble typing coherent sentences. Just stick to scanning the web for gossip articles little buddy, everyone here really loves reading them.
Don't mind the retard lol, he's averse to any coherent posts with valid points and solid arguments and has the vocabulary range of an ill-mannered toddler. I gave up on him when I realized he dodged all my posts where I ethered him with coherent arguments, lol.
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Big budgets are a great thing to have but connections go a little further. I would say it's less a budget thing and more an access thing.
my point stands....there are rappers with endless connections and money out the ass who have terrible beat selection. game simply aint one of 'em.
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^^ I agree because Jadakiss has had every great producer at his disposal, from his frost album to second, and his albums are always not what you want or picture from a MC like him. Even the timbaland, swizz, neptunes dropped ass beats on kiss the game goodbye, Jadakiss would be better off working with alchemist and havoc and that's it. He even had Eminem make a beat beat and verse at Em's biggest and couldn't sell, with a Mariah Carey\Scott storch track and it seemed forced, so even with A List producers and rhymes it doesn't make you dope or prepared to sell records or jada and fat joe would be double platinum....
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^^ I agree because Jadakiss has had every great producer at his disposal, from his frost album to second, and his albums are always not what you want or picture from a MC like him. Even the timbaland, swizz, neptunes dropped ass beats on kiss the game goodbye, Jadakiss would be better off working with alchemist and havoc and that's it. He even had Eminem make a beat beat and verse at Em's biggest and couldn't sell, with a Mariah Carey\Scott storch track and it seemed forced, so even with A List producers and rhymes it doesn't make you dope or prepared to sell records or jada and fat joe would be double platinum....
Jadakiss is very good but is boring thats why he failed
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^^ I agree because Jadakiss has had every great producer at his disposal, from his frost album to second, and his albums are always not what you want or picture from a MC like him. Even the timbaland, swizz, neptunes dropped ass beats on kiss the game goodbye, Jadakiss would be better off working with alchemist and havoc and that's it. He even had Eminem make a beat beat and verse at Em's biggest and couldn't sell, with a Mariah Carey\Scott storch track and it seemed forced, so even with A List producers and rhymes it doesn't make you dope or prepared to sell records or jada and fat joe would be double platinum....
excellent example....if jadakiss was rappin over the production on documentary 2, shit would make for a classic.
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He even had Eminem make a beat beat and verse at Em's biggest and couldn't sell, with a Mariah Carey\Scott storch track and it seemed forced, so even with A List producers and rhymes it doesn't make you dope or prepared to sell records or jada and fat joe would be double platinum....
you do realize Kiss Of Death (which is a near classic album) went Gold before "U Make Me Wanna" was made the third single and Platinum after the fact right?
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You may want to go look at those Jadakiss production credits again if you're honestly under the illusion that he was getting the kind of access to production that Game was on his albums.
Documentary had 6 tracks produced by Dr. Dre, 2 co-produced by Scott Storch, production by Kanye West, Havoc, Cool & Dre, Hi-Tek, Focus, Just Blaze, and Eminem.
Jada's first album had one track a piece from Neptunes, DJ Premier, Timbaland, and Just Blaze. 3 tracks produced by Swizz Beatz. He had 2 from Alchemist but in 2004, Alchemist was just getting established. I would argue that "We Gone Make It" actually helped him break out as a producer.
There's also a way heavier label and guest presence on Game's album. Let's just stop with even pretending Jada was getting offered anything near as strong as "Hate It or Love It" over the course of any of his three albums. I mean, you really got to look at this beat selection business with a certain context. Albums like "All Eyez On Me" and "Documentary" were products of artists landing in great spots. Pac and Game were placed on winning teams and allowed to choose from the very best hits that were laying around.
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He even had Eminem make a beat beat and verse at Em's biggest and couldn't sell, with a Mariah Carey\Scott storch track and it seemed forced, so even with A List producers and rhymes it doesn't make you dope or prepared to sell records or jada and fat joe would be double platinum....
you do realize Kiss Of Death (which is a near classic album) went Gold before "U Make Me Wanna" was made the third single and Platinum after the fact right?
He should have hit better with the first joint the second seemed more focus, and more money was spent on features and production, i think the second album is better and the mixtape he followed up with after with green lantern was flames but I go to the mixtape more than the album...
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I actually really like Jada's second album. The Mariah joint felt a little forced but other than that, I felt it was how a solo album should have been for him. With the first album, there are still songs I bump off it to this day but it feels like it's missing something.
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Damn, you got it with Jadakiss example. Was thinking the same thing - hes great rapper, but he never squeeze it out on his albums with plastic-ass beats.