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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Hack Wilson - real on January 12, 2016, 12:58:52 PM
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LET'S GO CHIEFS
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LET'S GO CHIEFS
won 10 in a row against losing teams... not saying they're not capable they crushed the Pats last year
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Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
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Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
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Chiefs played a good game. They had some opportunities. That Knile Davis fumble was huge. Up to that point the Chiefs were holding on strong, and trading blows with the champs.
Knile Davis had been Jamal Charles back-up the last couple of years. The Chiefs were 1-5, and Charles was injured for the season. Out of nowhere, West and Ware emerged to become the go to running backs for the Chiefs, and were a great 1-2 punch that lead the Chiefs to 10 straight wins. Knile Davis became just a special teams guy.
Then Ware was injured last week, so Davis finally finds himself on the field in a big game, with the weight of the team on his shoulders, and he was fighting, but ultimately the moment was too big for him. He coughed up a fumble like he did all throughout his college career and through his first few seasons now in the pros. I knew he was an accident waiting to happen once I saw him out there being used at key moments in the game.
Then the Chiefs had a couple opportunities for some big turnovers on defense but just couldn't come up with it. The Pro-Bowl rookie Peters, who lead the league in interceptions nearly came up with a big one, and Tamba Hali nearly caught a gift from Brady.
Anyway, it just wasn't enough. Edlemen, Gronk, and Brady just proved to be too much. Hats off though to the Chiefs. They had a great season and won a playoff game. They traded punches with the champs, and proved they could play with the best.
I'm proud of the team.
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Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
I hate Brady fans when talking football. Could cate less about the actual athletes themselves. And if you go back to our old FIFA debates I was calling those games fixed as well. You called me an idiot. The courts of Europe disagree with you. I even called it fixed when my home country won the Euro in 04.
This is not about who I like or don't. It's about what I think of the "sport". I'm no more in to Brady vs Manning now as I was in HBK vs Bret Hart in the 90s. And I got just as riled up when HBK won at Wrestle mania 12.
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Chiefs played a good game. They had some opportunities. That Knile Davis fumble was huge. Up to that point the Chiefs were holding on strong, and trading blows with the champs.
Knile Davis had been Jamal Charles back-up the last couple of years. The Chiefs were 1-5, and Charles was injured for the season. Out of nowhere, West and Ware emerged to become the go to running backs for the Chiefs, and were a great 1-2 punch that lead the Chiefs to 10 straight wins. Knile Davis became just a special teams guy.
Then Ware was injured last week, so Davis finally finds himself on the field in a big game, with the weight of the team on his shoulders, and he was fighting, but ultimately the moment was too big for him. He coughed up a fumble like he did all throughout his college career and through his first few seasons now in the pros. I knew he was an accident waiting to happen once I saw him out there being used at key moments in the game.
Then the Chiefs had a couple opportunities for some big turnovers on defense but just couldn't come up with it. The Pro-Bowl rookie Peters, who lead the league in interceptions nearly came up with a big one, and Tamba Hali nearly caught a gift from Brady.
Anyway, it just wasn't enough. Edlemen, Gronk, and Brady just proved to be too much. Hats off though to the Chiefs. They had a great season and won a playoff game. They traded punches with the champs, and proved they could play with the best.
I'm proud of the team.
Just watch last year's hame again and watch every game the Pats offense struggles. When the defense disguises coverage and rotates a linebacker to blitz the Pats get shut down. So then answer why do teams not try more of it and more importantly go back to it after it worked?
My answer is because the sport is influenced by the coaches to go a certain way. Players for the most part are too stupid to get it. Like those idiots cheering on a 4th down interception not realizing they cost the tram a lot of yards. Or last night's game where Arians calls a timeout to get the hail mary defense ready and still puts a bad defense on the field.
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Just watch last year's hame again and watch every game the Pats offense struggles. When the defense disguises coverage and rotates a linebacker to blitz the Pats get shut down. So then answer why do teams not try more of it and more importantly go back to it after it worked?
My answer is because the sport is influenced by the coaches to go a certain way. Players for the most part are too stupid to get it. Like those idiots cheering on a 4th down interception not realizing they cost the tram a lot of yards. Or last night's game where Arians calls a timeout to get the hail mary defense ready and still puts a bad defense on the field.
I noticed one thing that Brady was doing that was pretty smart... He was coming to the line early, and the Chiefs would start moving their defense around and he would call out adjustments to correspond with whatever the Chiefs were showing. It seemed he had a lot of time at the line, and maybe the Chiefs did not do a good enough job disguising what they were going to do. It seemed Brady was winning the play at the line, and before the snap. It's like that saying from the Art of War, "Win first, and then go to battle".
Not sure what you are saying with your conspiracy theory about coaches influencing the game. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you and you can clarify.
I think you can't talk shit on Brady after the Chiefs game, because I thought he played pretty much mistake free. I mean he was on top of every movement the Chiefs made, and he was able to overcome a lot of key drops by his receivers.
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Just watch last year's hame again and watch every game the Pats offense struggles. When the defense disguises coverage and rotates a linebacker to blitz the Pats get shut down. So then answer why do teams not try more of it and more importantly go back to it after it worked?
My answer is because the sport is influenced by the coaches to go a certain way. Players for the most part are too stupid to get it. Like those idiots cheering on a 4th down interception not realizing they cost the tram a lot of yards. Or last night's game where Arians calls a timeout to get the hail mary defense ready and still puts a bad defense on the field.
I noticed one thing that Brady was doing that was pretty smart... He was coming to the line early, and the Chiefs would start moving their defense around and he would call out adjustments to correspond with whatever the Chiefs were showing. It seemed he had a lot of time at the line, and maybe the Chiefs did not do a good enough job disguising what they were going to do. It seemed Brady was winning the play at the line, and before the snap. It's like that saying from the Art of War, "Win first, and then go to battle".
Not sure what you are saying with your conspiracy theory about coaches influencing the game. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you and you can clarify.
I think you can't talk shit on Brady after the Chiefs game, because I thought he played pretty much mistake free. I mean he was on top of every movement the Chiefs made, and he was able to overcome a lot of key drops by his receivers.
Coaches can call whatever play they want and players are too stupid to question it. That's my point. So when you call a whole game with out one blitz when the last game you played against them you killed them with the rotating blitz there is no player on the defensive field that is even allowed to say fuck that, we're doing this instead.
I wouldn't say mistake free either. Brady made two poor throws in clutch time that could have been disasters. Lucky breaks. The one out route that the Chiefs jumped on but dropped the INT, and the up the middle to Gronk in coverage that ended up bouncing into Edeleman's hands. Both could have easily ended in pick 6s. And when you aren't getting to the QB at all , and won't call any bltizes to help the front 4, and your #1 target is consistently getting open off of uncalled pushoffs, yeah its not hard to have a good game.
Call it a conspiracy all you want, but just like Fifa, which gets caught doing it all the time, the NFL wll be shown for the fraud that it is. Of course I shouldn't use the word fraud because they come right out and tell you its not a real competition on the back of the ticket.
And to anyone that asks why I even watch if I think its bogus; the same reason I watched wrestling in the old days. Its fun to yell at the TV sometimes. And of course for the cash. I cleared an extra 6 grande this NFL season. Paid for a trip to Greece.
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Coaches can call whatever play they want and players are too stupid to question it. That's my point. So when you call a whole game with out one blitz when the last game you played against them you killed them with the rotating blitz there is no player on the defensive field that is even allowed to say fuck that, we're doing this instead.
I wouldn't say mistake free either. Brady made two poor throws in clutch time that could have been disasters. Lucky breaks. The one out route that the Chiefs jumped on but dropped the INT, and the up the middle to Gronk in coverage that ended up bouncing into Edeleman's hands. Both could have easily ended in pick 6s. And when you aren't getting to the QB at all , and won't call any bltizes to help the front 4, and your #1 target is consistently getting open off of uncalled pushoffs, yeah its not hard to have a good game.
Call it a conspiracy all you want, but just like Fifa, which gets caught doing it all the time, the NFL wll be shown for the fraud that it is. Of course I shouldn't use the word fraud because they come right out and tell you its not a real competition on the back of the ticket.
And to anyone that asks why I even watch if I think its bogus; the same reason I watched wrestling in the old days. Its fun to yell at the TV sometimes. And of course for the cash. I cleared an extra 6 grande this NFL season. Paid for a trip to Greece.
I'm not an expert on the rotating blitz, but it sure looked like that's what the Chiefs were doing at the beginning of the game. The Pats seemed to be prepared for it. Bell-li-check isn't going to let his team fall victim to the same scheme that got that blown out in the previous game. The Chiefs were going to have to expect that Bell-li-check would counter.
what's that about the back of the ticket? What does it say?
and I didn't take you for being such a conspiracy theorist.
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I'm not a huge theorist. Just a skeptic. And it's not so much where there is smoke there is fire but where there is fire there is fire. Fifa gets legally caught and punished for match fixing.
With the NFL it's just smoke but the author of that book interviewed in the 80s was dead on. Dick Butkus confirmed it. It doesnt confirm the fixing still goes on but no one can read that book and not acknowledge that it had gone on to a degree.
And the back of the ticket states the ticket holder is only entitled to the enter the stadium and watch the event. Not entitled to fair competition. The NFL is also registered in the government as not a league of separate entities in competition with each other but as a single entity for the purpose of entertainment. It's basically to cover their ass legally. It's in essence saying we don't fix games but if we go you can't sue
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I'm not a huge theorist. Just a skeptic. And it's not so much where there is smoke there is fire but where there is fire there is fire. Fifa gets legally caught and punished for match fixing.
With the NFL it's just smoke but the author of that book interviewed in the 80s was dead on. Dick Butkus confirmed it. It doesnt confirm the fixing still goes on but no one can read that book and not acknowledge that it had gone on to a degree.
And the back of the ticket states the ticket holder is only entitled to the enter the stadium and watch the event. Not entitled to fair competition. The NFL is also registered in the government as not a league of separate entities in competition with each other but as a single entity for the purpose of entertainment. It's basically to cover their ass legally. It's in essence saying we don't fix games but if we go you can't sue
No.. in essence they have to do that cause some low-life fan would throw stuff at refs and possible injure them, and claim that they weren't calling the game fair.
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I'm not a huge theorist. Just a skeptic. And it's not so much where there is smoke there is fire but where there is fire there is fire. Fifa gets legally caught and punished for match fixing.
With the NFL it's just smoke but the author of that book interviewed in the 80s was dead on. Dick Butkus confirmed it. It doesnt confirm the fixing still goes on but no one can read that book and not acknowledge that it had gone on to a degree.
And the back of the ticket states the ticket holder is only entitled to the enter the stadium and watch the event. Not entitled to fair competition. The NFL is also registered in the government as not a league of separate entities in competition with each other but as a single entity for the purpose of entertainment. It's basically to cover their ass legally. It's in essence saying we don't fix games but if we go you can't sue
No.. in essence they have to do that cause some low-life fan would throw stuff at refs and possible injure them, and claim that they weren't calling the game fair.
Refs? Its a fact its for legal reasons. It started after the 1919 World Series fix. To avoid further lawsuits the MLB switched its entity. The other leagues followed suit. A fan sued the league after spygate and the judge rejected the claim based entire on that reasoning.
Just research that book and the fallout from it and there is no way your left thinking the league wasn't dealing with fixed games and cover ups. Its not proof that it still goes on or that its orchestrated by the leagues and owners in long term planning but its real. I get the reluctance to accept it. Most people don't want to cheer for something they feel is real and then find out its not, or even accept the possibility it might not be.
And I'm not saying its all fake and set up, I'm saying when it looks too fishy it probably is.
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Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
fuck you, i dont hate lebron, i dislike him because he's bitchmade. has absolutely nothin 2 do with kobe, he's naturally a weaksauce, coulda been a laker and i'd be sayin the same.
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i dont hate lebron, i dislike him because he's bitchmade
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ZALUTE
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Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
I hate Brady fans when talking football. Could cate less about the actual athletes themselves
nice cop out. it is effectively the same.
Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
And if you go back to our old FIFA debates I was calling those games fixed as well. You called me an idiot. The courts of Europe disagree with you. I even called it fixed when my home country won the Euro in 04.
This is not about who I like or don't. It's about what I think of the "sport". I'm no more in to Brady vs Manning now as I was in HBK vs Bret Hart in the 90s. And I got just as riled up when HBK won at Wrestle mania 12.
No fucking court agrees with you - you were saying outrageous shit. Like something along the lines of only 7 teams being allowed to win the World Cup. Then Spain won and you looked like an idiot.
Of course there is corruption in sports, noone on earth actually denies that by the way. You giving any pro sport the same credibility as Wrestlemania is a joke though, and I am sure you know that as well, deep down.
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Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
fuck you, i dont hate lebron, i dislike him because he's bitchmade. has absolutely nothin 2 do with kobe, he's naturally a weaksauce, coulda been a laker and i'd be sayin the same.
We 2 know each other for too long buddy. You were talking shit about LeBron when nigga was still in high school.
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Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
fuck you, i dont hate lebron, i dislike him because he's bitchmade. has absolutely nothin 2 do with kobe, he's naturally a weaksauce, coulda been a laker and i'd be sayin the same.
We 2 know each other for too long buddy. You were talking shit about LeBron when nigga was still in high school.
The guy is bitchmade, duno what more to tell ya..Jordan is compared wit Kobe all the time, but I respect t him. I naturally gravitate towards winners and have a keen sense of who got that loser blood in em and who don't.
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Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
I hate Brady fans when talking football. Could cate less about the actual athletes themselves
nice cop out. it is effectively the same.
Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
And if you go back to our old FIFA debates I was calling those games fixed as well. You called me an idiot. The courts of Europe disagree with you. I even called it fixed when my home country won the Euro in 04.
This is not about who I like or don't. It's about what I think of the "sport". I'm no more in to Brady vs Manning now as I was in HBK vs Bret Hart in the 90s. And I got just as riled up when HBK won at Wrestle mania 12.
No fucking court agrees with you - you were saying outrageous shit. Like something along the lines of only 7 teams being allowed to win the World Cup. Then Spain won and you looked like an idiot.
Of course there is corruption in sports, noone on earth actually denies that by the way. You giving any pro sport the same credibility as Wrestlemania is a joke though, and I am sure you know that as well, deep down.
Just saying, the dislike I have for Tom Brady doesn't exist, and it certainly doesn't exist because of the fact that I like Peyton. I like Tom Brady the quarterback. He's very good, but thats as far as it goes for me. He's not worth the type of praise he gets from NFL fans. never was. never will be.
And to my dismay, I had actually conceded tthat when Spain I won I was wrong, but I did so stupidly. I said the 7th team represented the Revelation; the end of the world, and surely enough right after the 7th team won, all the match fixing investigations and charges came to light.
The courts are right now as we speak finding more and more FIFA players, coaches, refs, and FIFA officials guilty of match fixing. I'm sorry your favorite sport is a sham. Of course you can't see that just like you can't read. I didn't say the NFL or FIFA was just as credible as wrestling I said I was no more into one than the other. I was very upset when HBK beat Hart. I knew it wasn't real. I was upset when Clint Eastwood died at the end of Gran Torino, and that's really not real. My point is I can suspend my disbelief and cheer and jeer for athletes even though I think its not on the level.
But to clarify, the WWE is orchestrated completely with no surprises allowed and everyone knowing what it is. I don't think pro sports are that. I think it's fixed when it has to be by the people in positions of power and at best 1 or 2 athletes at any time may be in on that. I definitely feel the refs are part of the sham, and sometimes I think a coach is. But not all and not every time. If the NFL was like the WWE where players knew going in that they would win or lose it would never be able to keep that secret.
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Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
I hate Brady fans when talking football. Could cate less about the actual athletes themselves
nice cop out. it is effectively the same.
Game was over on Wednesday when the NFL told Reid and Sutton they had to lose.
You just hate Tom Brady because you love Peyton Manning, kinda like Nik hates LeBron because he's infatuated with Kobe.
And if you go back to our old FIFA debates I was calling those games fixed as well. You called me an idiot. The courts of Europe disagree with you. I even called it fixed when my home country won the Euro in 04.
This is not about who I like or don't. It's about what I think of the "sport". I'm no more in to Brady vs Manning now as I was in HBK vs Bret Hart in the 90s. And I got just as riled up when HBK won at Wrestle mania 12.
No fucking court agrees with you - you were saying outrageous shit. Like something along the lines of only 7 teams being allowed to win the World Cup. Then Spain won and you looked like an idiot.
Of course there is corruption in sports, noone on earth actually denies that by the way. You giving any pro sport the same credibility as Wrestlemania is a joke though, and I am sure you know that as well, deep down.
Just saying, the dislike I have for Tom Brady doesn't exist, and it certainly doesn't exist because of the fact that I like Peyton. I like Tom Brady the quarterback. He's very good, but thats as far as it goes for me. He's not worth the type of praise he gets from NFL fans. never was. never will be.
And to my dismay, I had actually conceded tthat when Spain I won I was wrong, but I did so stupidly. I said the 7th team represented the Revelation; the end of the world, and surely enough right after the 7th team won, all the match fixing investigations and charges came to light.
The courts are right now as we speak finding more and more FIFA players, coaches, refs, and FIFA officials guilty of match fixing. I'm sorry your favorite sport is a sham. Of course you can't see that just like you can't read. I didn't say the NFL or FIFA was just as credible as wrestling I said I was no more into one than the other. I was very upset when HBK beat Hart. I knew it wasn't real. I was upset when Clint Eastwood died at the end of Gran Torino, and that's really not real. My point is I can suspend my disbelief and cheer and jeer for athletes even though I think its not on the level.
But to clarify, the WWE is orchestrated completely with no surprises allowed and everyone knowing what it is. I don't think pro sports are that. I think it's fixed when it has to be by the people in positions of power and at best 1 or 2 athletes at any time may be in on that. I definitely feel the refs are part of the sham, and sometimes I think a coach is. But not all and not every time. If the NFL was like the WWE where players knew going in that they would win or lose it would never be able to keep that secret.
There has always been proven/obvious corruption in Football and it is not always done by People in high positions, but often just regular career criminals who bribe niggas to fix random low Level matches in order to make Money by betting on it.
The main FIFA investigations right now are not focused on things like "let's make Italy World Cup winners because the Country goes through lots of shit right now" but on corrupt officials who don't care about the Sport or the People at all - and just Focus on making themselves rich by granting votes and shady accounting.
What was always fixed by FIFA and is actually denied by NOBODY is the System of giving the host Team benefits. South Korea beat Italy in a super shady way back when they were Hosts, and I admit that Germany got some preferential Treatment in 2006 when facing Argentina.
Yet the conspiracy that you insist on ála "Let's make it IMPOSSIBLE for any other Team to win and let's make Spain win in order to have the 7th Winner Team to represent the Revelation!!" is just preposterous.
With that said, you can do a lot but you can't make a horrible Team win against a great Team unless a lot of luck is involved as well. Plus, what do you do if the refs or Players or coaches are just not up for it? Threaten to kill their families?
In the NBA they liked to extend an entertaining NBA Playoff series for obvious reasons. It was also a known Thing back then. When a great series was like 3-2 with the next game being an away game for the leading Team, everyone knew that it would be "tough" to Close out the series.
BTW What's with the retarded auto-correct writing random nouns in capital letters? Do only I have that?
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I've never had that auto correct problem.
Anyway. I said all long that you can't 100% grantee a fix in team sports because of too many factors but you can reach out to refs easily and make it much easier for one team over another and in World Soccer with so many coaches coaching countries they aren't from its not that hard to get a team to just play in the wrong formation. Like Brazil vs Germany last world cup. Not saying that was fixed. Just saying it was pretty easy for the coach to sell his team on that ridiculous formation that left the defense at a major handicap.
NFL is even easier if you have the play calling coaches on the take because the players won't even realize the stupidity of it in the moment. If the defensive play calling coach of the Jets and the offense play calling coach of the opposing Bills wanted they could fix evert drive and almost certainly create a score or turnover each time. They can't control it absolutely because a player could fall or break a tackle but it's more often than not that a pass play called to the middle of the field and a defense called to fake blitz a linebacker and have him drop to the side the ball is thrown will almost always lead to no catch and maybe even an INT.