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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 03, 2016, 07:23:38 PM

Title: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 03, 2016, 07:23:38 PM
From jump, the track is directed at Suge and the Dogg Pound, with "You drew first blood/ must've thought you was Stallone"...."Knick Knack Paddy Wack give a dog a bone...heard a dog yelpin but no help came"...

I think there is an original joint floating around with some more direct disses like "The Dogg Pound had a pimp (Suge)" as it's alluded to in the summer 96' Source article featuring DRe (in my Avatar)
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 03, 2016, 09:56:41 PM
Has this track leaked? Could you upload it or direct me to where it can be found? Or are you just basing these remarks on lyrics posted on some Tupac forum?
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 03, 2016, 10:22:24 PM
Has this track leaked? Could you upload it or direct me to where it can be found? Or are you just basing these remarks on lyrics posted on some Tupac forum?

"Blunt Time" was one of the more impressive, futuristic sounding joints on Aftermath Presents.  It's interesting that it contains so many subliminals cause at the time Dre was trying to to get away from being involved in beefs—and told his artists to avoid hanging in clubs and getting involved with Death Row beef. 

All the lyrics above are in the song from the album... except the "Dogg Pound had a pimp (Suge)" part was probably cut out.
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: JonnyTanna on February 04, 2016, 04:26:09 AM
I remember there was a scan of that issue somewhere on this forum. Can someone please link me to it?
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: donfathaimmortal on February 05, 2016, 05:21:31 AM
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Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: donfathaimmortal on February 05, 2016, 05:22:07 AM
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Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: donfathaimmortal on February 05, 2016, 05:22:28 AM
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Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: donfathaimmortal on February 05, 2016, 05:22:46 AM
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Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: donfathaimmortal on February 05, 2016, 05:23:02 AM
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Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: donfathaimmortal on February 05, 2016, 05:23:21 AM
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Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 05, 2016, 09:22:51 AM
Notice Dre mentions when talking about future projects and an NWA reunion...

"The ultimate would be to do an NWA movie and soundtrack for it".

Turns out Dre must have a crystal ball and psychic powers after all (which he says he doesn't have in another part of the interview).   Of course the prediction was only about 20 years late, but hey, it's still fitting considering the end of the movie is him walking off into the sunset with Aftermath.
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: JonnyTanna on February 05, 2016, 07:36:12 PM
Even at the time of reading that interview I felt that was the beginning of the end of good music. 2pac died and puffy capitalised and ruined music. Dre had no idea how much this decision would affect the future of music
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: realmuthafuckingeez on February 05, 2016, 07:49:55 PM
Somebody needs to re-upload scans of those old vibe and source magz. They was a whole bunch fof them on the net a few years ago but now you can't find them no more. I fucked up and deleted them.
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 06, 2016, 07:33:51 AM
Even at the time of reading that interview I felt that was the beginning of the end of good music. 2pac died and puffy capitalised and ruined music. Dre had no idea how much this decision would affect the future of music

I can vividly remember reading this magazine when it came out summer of 96', and I felt the complete opposite.  I felt really hopeful at the time of all the possibilities.  And even Dre was expecting that Death Row would still be strong.  I figured with Daz producing, with Pac, with Snoop, that Death Row would still be all right.  That Dre would go on to be a huge success with all his new ideas and hip-hop would just keep getting better and better as it had up to that point...

Of course I was wrong for being so naive.  A couple months later Pac died, aside from "East/West Killa" Dre's album was lackluster, a month or so after that Snoop dropped a brick, and then finally Suge ended up behind a prison wall and this all happened before the end of 96!  

Then shit really got fucked up in 97' with Bad Boy and No Limit filling the void...  Which basically destroyed what remained of the happiness I'd always experienced growing up... but I digress...
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 06, 2016, 08:49:13 AM
Has this track leaked? Could you upload it or direct me to where it can be found? Or are you just basing these remarks on lyrics posted on some Tupac forum?

"Blunt Time" was one of the more impressive, futuristic sounding joints on Aftermath Presents.  It's interesting that it contains so many subliminals cause at the time Dre was trying to to get away from being involved in beefs—and told his artists to avoid hanging in clubs and getting involved with Death Row beef. 

All the lyrics above are in the song from the album... except the "Dogg Pound had a pimp (Suge)" part was probably cut out.

I thought you were talking about the rumored unleaked Tupac song called "Blunt Tyme." Got a link to this one?
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 06, 2016, 12:09:18 PM
Even at the time of reading that interview I felt that was the beginning of the end of good music. 2pac died and puffy capitalised and ruined music. Dre had no idea how much this decision would affect the future of music

I can vividly remember reading this magazine when it came out summer of 96', and I felt the complete opposite.  I felt really hopeful at the time of all the possibilities.  And even Dre was expecting that Death Row would still be strong.  I figured with Daz producing, with Pac, with Snoop, that Death Row would still be all right.  That Dre would go on to be a huge success with all his new ideas and hip-hop would just keep getting better and better as it had up to that point...

Of course I was wrong for being so naive.  A couple months later Pac died, aside from "East/West Killa" Dre's album was lackluster, a month or so after that Snoop dropped a brick, and then finally Suge ended up behind a prison wall and this all happened before the end of 96!  

Then shit really got fucked up in 97' with Bad Boy and No Limit filling the void...  Which basically destroyed what remained of the happiness I'd always experienced growing up... but I digress...


Yeah 96 was a terrible year for the West Coast Hip-Hop scene.

The scary part it, had Dre just stuck around for a few more months, he would've had a Death Row records with no Pac or Suge and could've resumed business with Snoop, Tha Dogg Pound, Nate Dogg, and Rage.
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: on February 06, 2016, 02:28:42 PM

Yeah 96 was a terrible year for the West Coast Hip-Hop scene.

The scary part it, had Dre just stuck around for a few more months, he would've had a Death Row records with no Pac or Suge and could've resumed business with Snoop, Tha Dogg Pound, Nate Dogg, and Rage.

What an interesting point, I'd never considered that aspect. I wonder what direction Dre would have taken DR in with him being solo at the helm? At the bare minimum Snoop wouldn't have dropped a brick and we might have seen some of those shelved projects. On the other hand Dre might have spent the next 10 years polishing one beat and leaving his artists on the shelf as well..
Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 06, 2016, 05:43:22 PM

Yeah 96 was a terrible year for the West Coast Hip-Hop scene.

The scary part it, had Dre just stuck around for a few more months, he would've had a Death Row records with no Pac or Suge and could've resumed business with Snoop, Tha Dogg Pound, Nate Dogg, and Rage.

What an interesting point, I'd never considered that aspect. I wonder what direction Dre would have taken DR in with him being solo at the helm? At the bare minimum Snoop wouldn't have dropped a brick and we might have seen some of those shelved projects. On the other hand Dre might have spent the next 10 years polishing one beat and leaving his artists on the shelf as well..

haha....

funny...all these years I've been stewing over this and that is one perspective I never considered.  I always looked at it as 'Dre was the smart one who got out just before the collapse'.   But yeah... in a way it's like God took care of his problems for him, all he had to do was just sit back and wait it out a bit (something he is quite good at, sitting back and waiting). 

Only downside is he still would've been making Suge a ton of money.  Suge would've been profiting off acts like Eminem from prison earning his 50% cut off the label.  It would've turned into a sort of extortion type of scenario, where Suge would've probably not been providing any value to the company other than bullying, so Dre would've had to keep giving him his 50% cut.  Cause Dre was totally tired of doing business in that kind of way.

Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 07, 2016, 09:00:00 PM
I like that interview. Seeing Dre say fuck DOC, responding to 2Pac, flat out saying ain't no one going to do shit to him, so much more refreshing than the politically correct Dre he's been since the 00's

Title: Re: "Blunt Time" contains a lot of subliminal disses of Suge and the Dogg Pound
Post by: Blood$ on February 08, 2016, 07:40:24 AM
would it kill dudes to make those magazine scans smaller? I must be the only not blind member here who wouldn't have a problem with that