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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Don Seer on May 07, 2003, 05:48:47 AM
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Dr Dre fined £1m for copying bass line - May 7, 2003 By : Overseer
A Los Angeles jury has recommended a near £1 million award to a British record company that sued rapper-producer Dr Dre for song plagiarism.
The judge has yet to sign the judgment, said Dre's lawyer Howard King.
London-based Minder Music sued Dre claiming his song, Let's Get High, used the bass line of their group Fatback's song, Backstrokin, said company lawyer Alan Dowling.
Let's Get High was one of the lesser known of 22 songs on Dre's successful 2001 album, which sold 9 million copies worldwide.
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well damn...
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Damn Dre's always gettin' sued.
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anyone know whats happened to the addictive case
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Didn't Erikah Badu also used that song ???
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Above the Law sampled it in "V.S.O.P.''. KAM did for "Givin' it Up", and Rodney O & Joe Cooley did for "Cooley High".
I guess Dre's the only one who's been caught.
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that's bullshit. that's one of the most commone bass lines out there. shit I was playing that progression when I just picked up the bass. and I ain't never heard it anyware. lol...when your the best, you get hated on from every direction. props to DRE
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that's bullshit. that's one of the most commone bass lines out there. shit I was playing that progression when I just picked up the bass. and I ain't never heard it anyware. lol...when your the best, you get hated on from every direction. props to DRE
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peeps hate too much on dre(http://www.penthesilea.ch/yabb-smiley-sets/afroset/angry.gif)
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Yea that is a common bassline but its obviously from Backstrokin, and Dre would know that seeing as the song is a well known funk classic.
I don't know why he doesn't try to get sample clearance. Probably woulda cost him a couple of grand to do that initially, now he has to pay $1.5 mill just for a bassline jack
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that's bullshit. that's one of the most commone bass lines out there. shit I was playing that progression when I just picked up the bass. and I ain't never heard it anyware. lol...when your the best, you get hated on from every direction. props to DRE
well thats the prolblem.......its common....so he should know where its from.......
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Dre hired a musicologist to make sure it would be cool, the dude said it was common so it wasn't a problem...
If you ask me, it's like using a quote in a book... I dunno why people are trippin out so much...
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Above the Law sampled it in "V.S.O.P.''. KAM did for "Givin' it Up", and Rodney O & Joe Cooley did for "Cooley High".
I guess Dre's the only one who's been caught.
i think ATL defo got clearance... its in the liner notes...
btw... search for "sample backstrokin" in google.. the first hit back goes to this page
http://diggin.igangsta.com/ATL-BlackMafiaLife/
cool huh!
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I don't get Dre's or Interscope's business etiquette when it comes to music clearances....
Quik produces a track that he said he recorded onto his VCR from am Indian movie that was on TV, samples it, Dre hears it, loves it and releases it as a single, then as soon as the single blows up, the original producer/movie outfit sue Dre for not clearing the sample, because they were impossible to contact/wouldn't return calls
Now Dre is sued for virtually the same thing. Dre is an educated and talented dude, but how can he not follow up on getting sample clearances? That has to be all cleared up before a label (in this case Interscope) can release an album.
While Above The Law was on Tommy Boy and working on Legends, we were having trouble with clearing "When Doves Cry" from Prince to use on "Deep Az The Root". All ATL wanted to do was say his chorus "maybe I'm just like mother/father...........etc." on our chorus and Prince wouldn't release it, so then the group went back and re-did the chorus and it came out better and funkier then what they originally planned, but Hutch always said "A REAL PRODUCER WILL ALWAYS CLEAR ANY SAMPLE OR INTERPOLATION OF A SONG AND PAY FOLKS ACCORDINGLY" But I think we also have one of the best, if not the best music clearance companies in the U.S. and they stay on top of things, so folks won't come out of the woodwork and start suing "millions for a bassline."
But based on current law nowadays, if you use so much of a second of a sample or interpolation of a recor etc., you got to get it cleared and pay for it, but there have been artists and estates who cleared songs for no fee whatsoever.
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^^ Yup, lots of people clear stuff for free...
anyways, the problem is, dre don't give a shit. The company with the truth hurts sample said he contacted them, they said no, and he used it anyway.... he did the same thing to george lucas (although he probably recreated the sound himself, but that's still an interpolation, he'd still have to pay royalties, and didn't).... Dre just don't give a shit, he does what he wants.
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Someone sounds jealous.
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Everybody's getting sued these days, just 'cause Dre's rich..
C'mon, how many people sampled plenty of shit and never got caught?
I bet James Brown didn't aprove ALL of them trackz that was sampled. :P
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Nah... and George Clinton REALLY got screwed, even the people that got clearance didn't pay him, he sued the hell out of priority a few years ago.
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Nah... and George Clinton REALLY got screwed, even the people that got clearance didn't pay him, he sued the hell out of priority a few years ago.
No, that's incorrect, George sold his publishing many years ago, so whenever folks, like Above The Law, sampled any of his songs, the money went straight to his publishing, which was owned by the independent record label, that he sold his publishing too. Which meant that the indie label (not Priority) got paid and he didn't get a penny from that. I believe he tried to buy his publishing back from the label and they refused to sell it back to him (since it's worth a grip). I think it's a shame that they would do that, since it's his art and livelihood. All Priority did was distribute his old catalogue.
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Oh, thanks for clearing that up then.
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kinda like how MJ bought the beatles stuff... and how mccartney is pissed at him for that..
i felt sorry for GC when i heard he's made fuck all from his legacy over the years its been sampled etc :(
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when your the best, you get hated on from every direction. props to DRE
yup...
but Dre should have been waay smarter than that, forreals.. and traum...I mean Mista America...Ill let that comment slide, ...cuz its from "Mister America", LOL....
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Someone sounds envious,
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they must be family to eminem's mom ::)