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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: Sccit on April 16, 2020, 01:39:32 AM
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40 BC Powda joints vs. 40 G-Dub joints....
BATTLECAT:
1.KURUPT - WE CAN FREAK IT
2.XZIBIT - GET YO WALK ON
3.DOMINO - GHETTO JAM
4.SNOOP DOGG - ONE BLOOD ONE CUZZ
5.XZIBIT - BEEN A LONG TIME
6.213 - MLK
7.BAD AZZ - HOW WE GET DOWN
8.BLOODS & CRIPS - STEADY DIPPIN
9.BOO YA TRIBE - BANG ON
10.MR. SHORT KHOP - DOLLAZ DRANK N DANK
11.TYRESE - BABY BOY
12.YO YO - BONNIE & CLYDE 2
13.WC - JUST CLOWNIN
14.EASTSIDAZ - I LUV IT
15.BRIAN MCKNIGHT - DONT KNOW WHERE TO START
16.SNOOP DOGG - BIG MOUTH
17.CHICO N COOLWADDA - HIGH COME DOWN
18.DOGGYS ANGELS - BABY IF YOU READY
19.E-40 - NAH NAH
20.BELL BIV DEVOE - DONT GO
21.FAITH EVANS - FAITHFULLY
22.FROST - EVERYBODY KNOWS
23.HITTMAN - FRONT PAGE
24.ICE CUBE - 24 MO HOURS
25.JAYO FELONY - WHAT YA NEED
26.KENNY LATTIMORE - COME TO ME
27.KING T - SQUEEZE YA BALLS
28.SNOOP DOGG - STACY ADAMS
29.LIGHTER SHADE OF BROWN - PAQUITO SOUL
30.DRU DOWN - PLAYA 4 REAL
31.TOM JONES - I DONT THINK SO
32.NATE DOGG - CONCRETE STREETS
33.RAS KASS - MARINATIN
34.PENTHOUSE PLAYAZ CLIQUE - JUST TO KEEP YO ATTENTION
35.RL - DO YOU WANNA ROLL
36.SPICE 1 - BUSTAS CANT C ME
37.TASH - GZ IZ GZ
38.EASTSIDAZ - G’D UP
39.XZIBIT - LOUD & CLEAR
40.DOGG POUND - CALI IZ ACTIVE
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WARREN G:
1.WARREN G - REGULATE
2.NATE DOGG - NOBODY DOES IT BETTER
3.213 - GROUPIE LUV REMIX
4.MISTA GRIMM - INDO SMOKE
5.WARREN G - YOUNG LOCS SLOW
DOWN
6.TWINZ - ROUND N ROUND
7.DOVE SHACK - THIS IS THE SHACK
8.YOUNG JEEZY - LEAVE YOU ALONE
9.2PAC - HOW LONG WILL THEY MOURN ME
10.CEDRIC CEBALLOS - FLOW ON
11.WARREN G - I NEED A LIGHT
12.MC BREED - GOTTA GET MINE
13.SLICK RICK - BEHIND BARS REMIX
14.WARREN G - GHETTO VILLAGE
15.DA 5 FOOTAZ - WALK AWAY
16.WARREN G - GET U DOWN
17.TWINZ - JOURNEY WIT ME
18.SHAQ - MY DEAR
19.WARREN G - I WANT IT ALL
20.WARREN G - YO SASSY WAYS
21.KAM - KEEP THE PEACE
22.SNOOP DOGG & WHIZ KHALIFA - I GET LIFTED
23.WARREN G - ANNIE MAY
24.KURUPT - THATS GANGSTA
25.MAC DRE - FAST MONEY
26.WARREN G - GAME DONT WAIT
27.EASTSIDAZ - BIG BANG THEORY
28.TQ - ONE DAY
29.WARREN G - SMOKIN ME OUT
30.SNOOP DOGG - AFTER DARK
31.WARREN G - DO YOU SEE
32.2PAC - DEFINITION OF A THUG NIGGA
33.ICE CUBE - RACE CARD
34.GUCCI MANE - CRUSH ON YOU
35.WARREN G - PARTY WE WILL THROW
36.STYLES P - HOW I FLY
37.TWINZ - EASTSIDE LB
38.WARREN G - WHAT WE GO THROUGH
39.E-40 - WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM DAYS
40.WARREN G - THIS DJ
who u got?
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bc
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i think its not so fair to compare BC and Warren. you can compare warren with dre, quik, daz... you can also compare bc with meech wells, jelly roll, fredwreck...
warren produced hits which rocked the whole world, which hit the charts in number one.
bc is a fucking great musician and a genius in beatmaking, he does amazing complex productions and i bet warren is a fan of him, like any other legends in beatmaking that i know they are a bc fan.
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i think its not so fair to compare BC and Warren. you can compare warren with dre, quik, daz... you can also compare bc with meech wells, jelly roll, fredwreck...
warren produced hits which rocked the whole world, which hit the charts in number one.
bc is a fucking great musician and a genius in beatmaking, he does amazing complex productions and i bet warren is a fan of him, like any other legends in beatmaking that i know they are a bc fan.
battlecat is better than daz
hes also very comparable to warren in terms of catalogue.... just look at all those hits. that range is epic.
who’d u vote for?
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voted for Battlecat..he is just under Dre and Quik imo
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In terms of versatility, musicianship, signature sound it's not match really, Battlecat is hands down the best producer.
Battlecat is in the same league as Quik. He's a musician and a technician. He has a deep knowledge of music equipment, he is an engineer in his own right, he can play several instruments, he can play the talkbox and he mixes his own shit. Very comparable to Quik. His knowledge and skills surpass Warren's. He is a mentor to dope musicians / technicians ala 1500 or Nothin' / Terrace Martin.
Warren is dope in his own right but he's in the same league as Daz, which is in my opinion under Quik and Battlecat's echelon. He came up in a very innovative era within a very innovative camp. He was a representative of a subculture that was blowing up nationwide and that's what made him dope too. Musically, he has a great ear and impressive musical culture but he's no technician. He can work out the MPC, play a little keyboards but he needs dope ass session musicians like Greg Geitzenauer, Sean Barney Thomas, Carl Butch Smalls and engineers like Greg Geitzenauer to make his music sound crisp and dope and you can tell that, like Daz, his inspiration has more or less dried up along the years (a lot of hit or miss output). Whereas Battlecat's sound keeps getting crisper (even though his early productions are among his best). G Dub got dope concepts and produced seminal G-Funk albums (The Twinz' Conversation, which is Warren's heyday as a producer) but on the whole, he's not as skillful as Battlecat.
Warren G's most famous songs (namely Regulate, The Definition of a Thug Nigga, Indo Smoke) are more famous than Battlecat's but Battlecat's catalogue in terms of quantity and consistency is superior, IMO. It's interesting to see that some of the songs you mentioned on Warren G's 40 range from average to pretty good, some are forgettable and some are taken from his own albums. Personally, among his best productions, I'd have added : DFC's Things in Tha Hood, Still Can't Fade It (from The Show OST).
Among BC's best productions, I'd have added E-40's Get Breaded (feat. Fat Joe & Sauce Money), Domino's Sweet Potato Pie, Poppa LQ's Die Like a G or Live like a Trick + Neighborhoodsta Funk, Daz's It Might Sound Crazy (Remix), Quo - Quo Funk, Snoop Dogg - Ballin' (feat. Lil HD & The Dramatics), King Tee's The Game (It's Ruff), I Smooth 7 - Coolin' In Tha Ghetto, WC's Hog & Tears of a Killa, E-40 & Too $hort's Do U Remember (feat. Kurupt). which goes to show that, imo, Battlecat's catalogue is deeper and doper. Warren G is among my very favorite producers but, just like Kurupt when it comes to MCing, his prime was shorter than BC's.
It'd be interesting to make a tier list of westcoast producers.
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In terms of versatility, musicianship, signature sound it's not match really, Battlecat is hands down the best producer.
Battlecat is in the same league as Quik. He's a musician and a technician. He has a deep knowledge of music equipment, he is an engineer in his own right, he can play several instruments, he can play the talkbox and he mixes his own shit. Very comparable to Quik. His knowledge and skills surpass Warren's. He is a mentor to dope musicians / technicians ala 1500 or Nothin' / Terrace Martin.
Warren is dope in his own right but he's in the same league as Daz, which is in my opinion under Quik and Battlecat's echelon. He came up in a very innovative era within a very innovative camp. He was a representative of a subculture that was blowing up nationwide and that's what made him dope too. Musically, he has a great ear and impressive musical culture but he's no technician. He can work out the MPC, play a little keyboards but he needs dope ass session musicians like Greg Geitzenauer, Sean Barney Thomas, Carl Butch Smalls and engineers like Greg Geitzenauer to make his music sound crisp and dope and you can tell that, like Daz, his inspiration has more or less dried up along the years (a lot of hit or miss output). Whereas Battlecat's sound keeps getting crisper (even though his early productions are among his best). G Dub got dope concepts and produced seminal G-Funk albums (The Twinz' Conversation, which is Warren's heyday as a producer) but on the whole, he's not as skillful as Battlecat.
Warren G's most famous songs (namely Regulate, The Definition of a Thug Nigga, Indo Smoke) are more famous than Battlecat's but Battlecat's catalogue in terms of quantity and consistency is superior, IMO. It's interesting to see that some of the songs you mentioned on Warren G's 40 range from average to pretty good, some are forgettable and some are taken from his own albums. Personally, among his best productions, I'd have added : DFC's Things in Tha Hood, Still Can't Fade It (from The Show OST).
Among BC's best productions, I'd have added E-40's Get Breaded (feat. Fat Joe & Sauce Money), Domino's Sweet Potato Pie, Poppa LQ's Die Like a G or Live like a Trick + Neighborhoodsta Funk, Daz's It Might Sound Crazy (Remix), Quo - Quo Funk, Snoop Dogg - Ballin' (feat. Lil HD & The Dramatics), King Tee's The Game (It's Ruff), I Smooth 7 - Coolin' In Tha Ghetto, WC's Hog & Tears of a Killa, E-40 & Too $hort's Do U Remember (feat. Kurupt). which goes to show that, imo, Battlecat's catalogue is deeper and doper. Warren G is among my very favorite producers but, just like Kurupt when it comes to MCing, his prime was shorter than BC's.
It'd be interesting to make a tier list of westcoast producers.
^^ i heavily disagree
warren g and battlecat are both right under dre and quik .... and where battlecat definitely has stayed consistent and has way more bangers overall, i will take warren g’s best work over battlecat’s really, warren is like a mini dre while battlecat is like a mini quik. so while battlecat may be better as a pure musician, warrens best productions can be put against anyone’s in hip-hop history. not to mention, warren has produced his share of classic albums top to bottom, and has more universal hits too. on that note, i’m taking mid 90s warren over bc....not by much tho.
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Very interesting thread and comparison. Two of the greatest producers from the West ever. Both have classics for days. But because I prefer Battlecat catalogue and his innovative sound I voted for BC
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I agree with the consensus Dre <> Quik it's all the same to me, Dre was more succesful commercially is all.
Warren G <> Battlecat
I'd take Warren G catalogue over BC but maaan I Smooth 7 Lp is pure dope or Battlecat unreleased album. The only hiatus being Battlecat can't rap (or barely), Warren did control the mic a little.
Underrated WG prod i listen these days: Dollar Make sense ft Kurupt Crucial Conflict:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1pGjMPE1Nk
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<====== you already know who i voted for... That said, Warren's early production (Twinz album, his first album, Mista Grimm single) are flawless, gold-standard G-Funk classics. As far as consistency. Battlecat hands down, he has almost 30 years worth of hits...
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battlecat killin the polls :-X
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I thought this might be one of those producer battles that's been doing the rounds, this definitely needs to happen 8)
Battlecat for me. I like Warren G's productions, and he's obviously a pivotal figure when it comes to west coast rap, but he hasn't really produced proper bangers like Battlecat has.
Warren G's production tends to be of the smoother G-funk variety, but Battlecat has produced some of the greatest, most hardest beats of all time that you can really feel and play loud as hell in the stereo/car.
Beats like G'd Up, Trust Nobody, It's Ruff, The Vapors Remix, Back Up Off The Wall from The Game's Documentary 2.5, Marinatin' etc is some of the best shit ever in my opinion, definitely equal with Dr. Dre or DJ Quik's best productions. On the other hand, I would say Warren G is more well known by your average listener, especially with his worldwide smash Regulate and his other commercial successes.
Some of the tracks listed I have never heard, so I definitely need to do my homework on those - I can't believe Cat produced a Tom Jones record :D.
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DJ Battlecat has been live on Instagram every couple days during the quarantine and everyone's been asking him to do a battle but he said he won't ever do one.
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DJ Battlecat has been live on Instagram every couple days during the quarantine and everyone's been asking him to do a battle but he said he won't ever do one.
damn
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bump
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Battlecat.
Warren G fell off since "I Want it all"
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Battlecat.
Warren G fell off since "I Want it all"
Did you listen to "return of the regulater"?
im a fan of "i want it all" album. but ROTG is even better than it.
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and again, i should repeat, its not possible to compare these two cats. warren is an artist and producer who is worldwide famous. battlecat is a local beatmaker/musician.
these two guys are my heroes and mentors. i can certainly say their music saved my life.
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Did you listen to "return of the regulater"?
im a fan of "i want it all" album. but ROTG is even better than it.
I did! Sonically I like "I want it all" a bit better, because of the live instruments. Return Of the Regulator is well-rounded tho. But even tho Warren G's last Mainstream hit is the Young Jeezy song, it feels as if he is uninspired
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I did! Sonically I like "I want it all" a bit better, because of the live instruments. Return Of the Regulator is well-rounded tho. But even tho Warren G's last Mainstream hit is the Young Jeezy song, it feels as if he is uninspired
i didnt like "in the midnight hour" and "g-files" albums either.
g-funk era part 2 EP was also good album.
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i want it all is a near classic
return of the regulator is dope but not on that level
midnite hour was dope and underrated as well
g-files was pretty sub-par
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i want it all is a near classic
return of the regulator is dope but not on that level
midnite hour was dope and underrated as well
g-files was pretty sub-par
return of the regulator is magnum opus of warren to me.
production is dope as fuck. every song is catchy. featurings are awesome: nate dogg, snoop dogg, mista grimm, george clinton, butch cassidy, kokane, wc, boss hogg, el debarge!
there is also a great production by dr. dre, ghostwriting by knoc-turn'al (on "keepin it strong")
there is no song to skip.
he must feel like he did his best and he cant do better than this. thats why he lost his motivation and did average albums after that.
i love "i want it all" too. it has a different vibe than "ROTR". i can honestly say "I want it all" album is one and only sample of its own genre. it doesnt sound like anything else. its not classic g-funk, not like early 90s not like late 90s. Strings , pianos and classic g-funk leads are completely out of production. most of the production is based on guitars, rhodes, keys and rnb groove. ROTR is kinda representing the early 2000s vibe of west coast. more strings are included, brass hits are on everywhere of the album, less guitar, more synth leads. also there are a few songs reminds us "i want it all" vibe like "yo sassy ways", "keepin it strong". its a 10 out 10 sample of its genre (early 2000s west coast hip hop).
i realised again with this discussion that how much i love warren-g and how much west coast hip-hop owe to him.
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Nice thread.. didn't know Battlecat did "Ghetto Jam". Interesting story that Domino was actually the first Long Beach artist to break through not Snoop. Yet nobody in Long Beach ever shows love to Domino we never hear of him. I love Battlecat but Warren got a classic album he produced - G Funk Era. Battlecat hasn't produced a classic album. And Warren got three classic songs "This DJ", "Regulators", and "Do You See"--Battlecat hasn't produced anything as good as that.
Then if you look at the overall body of work... Warren's first 4 albums were all solid. And his work wit the Twinz album, with Dove Shack.... and then all the songs Sccit mentioned...
1. Dre
2. Daz
3. Warren
4. Rza
5. Johnny J
6. Premier
7. Quik
8. Battlecat
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https://www.discogs.com/2Pac-I-Get-Around/release/317114
does anybody have these?
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I'm goin' with Cat. Warren G in my Top 25 too though, but he hasn't really been producing that much lately.
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Battlecat all day. Props to Warren G but BC's beats are too gangsta 8)
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Did you listen to "return of the regulater"?
im a fan of "i want it all" album. but ROTG is even better than it.
True. "In The Midnite Hour" is a great album too.
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i want it all is a near classic
return of the regulator is dope but not on that level
midnite hour was dope and underrated as well
g-files was pretty sub-par
I Want it All was a very solid album. That was part of the West Resergence movement. But I see Warren's albums decreasing in degrees (like EPMD LP's). Every album he falls off a bit more. So G Funk Era was classic. Take A Look Over Your Shoulder is very underrated. I think "Annie Mae", "Reality", "Smokin Me Out", "What We Go Thru", "Young Fun"-- I mean these tracks are a cut above anything on I Want it All. Want it All was still a solid album though... Then Return of the Regulator had it's bangers... so it wasn't far off the mark either...
How come nobody ever shows no love for Take A Look Over Your Shoulder? That album never gets mentioned. It was a major release at the time with a lot of hype. But none of the singles blew up so it only went gold. But a lot of trendy white fans (non-hip-hop heads) were buying it around my way.
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I Want it All was a very solid album. That was part of the West Resergence movement. But I see Warren's albums decreasing in degrees (like EPMD LP's). Every album he falls off a bit more. So G Funk Era was classic. Take A Look Over Your Shoulder is very underrated. I think "Annie Mae", "Reality", "Smokin Me Out", "What We Go Thru", "Young Fun"-- I mean these tracks are a cut above anything on I Want it All. Want it All was still a solid album though... Then Return of the Regulator had it's bangers... so it wasn't far off the mark either...
How come nobody ever shows no love for Take A Look Over Your Shoulder? That album never gets mentioned. It was a major release at the time with a lot of hype. But none of the singles blew up so it only went gold. But a lot of trendy white fans (non-hip-hop heads) were buying it around my way.
take a look over your shoulder is an incredible album and underrated for sure .. maybe a near classic
but i’d call i want it all a classic. the production on there is better layered and more musical
too bad warrens last album was g-files
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While we at it, does someone here have the dirty full version of "Dolla Dolla Bill" by 213 and "Clownin" by Warren G and Nate Dogg?