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Title: How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 02:54:44 PM
I'm serious... I've said this like 1000 times, but if someone came along, and was creative enough to sample all the great country songs (not the stupid ones), they'd make a fortune.  I was just listening to this song "Angels among us" by Alabama, and it's country as hell, but man if you lifted that chorus for a rap track, it'd sell platinum.  It'd cross over a million different ways, I just don't understand why people ignore country music when they go sampling... the only thing I can think of off the top of my head that's ever been sampled is Refugee camp sampled or interpolated 'islands in the stream' by kenny rogers, and then wyclef put kenny rogers on his last cd.  
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 03:07:17 PM
I'm listening to this other perfect sample now, this dude's singing about how this woman and him got in a big fight, and then the key changes, and he goes


"If I know me..... I'll turn this car around....
I won't get halfway through town, and I'll be sorry...
I'll stop and call, and you'll say you're sorry too...
and Ill come running back to you, if I know me"


That'd be a PERFECT sample.  Cut, Paste, Hit.  

Here's another one, same guy...

"All night, we love all night
Practice makes perfect, gonna get it right
Gonna get it right, one night at a time"


or there's another part of the song that goes

"I'm not yours, and baby you're not mine
but We've got something and it sure is fine,
lets take our love, one night at a time"

Either of those would be perfect for like a r&b flavored track, I just dont' get why people don't lift all this stuff.  

Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 03:11:03 PM
Another one, but it'd have to be redone to sound less twangy


"Oh baby... Oh, what a crying shame,
To let it all slip away, and call it yesterday...
Oh baby, my life would be so blue,
my heart would break in two, oh what a crying shame....."

This stuff is PERFECT and nobody outside of country has ever even heard it.  where's puffy, I've got a proposition...
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Don Seer on May 11, 2003, 03:21:39 PM
dont want people committing suicide to rap music too..
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 03:23:33 PM
Oh, good point.  
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Jome on May 11, 2003, 05:56:46 PM
If U want country-samples in hiphop, take a listen to Bubba Sparxxx's new shit..
Not that Bubba is anything special, but he's far from wack..
And Timbaland is a fucking genius..
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 06:52:07 PM
I don't feel bubba too much, and I'm not talking about just sampling stuff here and there, I'm talking about like a major track with a major artist, sampling a major country song.  I think that would be mega.  I'm really surprised nobody's done it yet, it's good to see timbaland will experiment around with stuff.  
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Kaidy on May 11, 2003, 06:52:14 PM
thats a good point. reason probably is that most hip hop producers dont know shit about country music and completely dismiss it. Myself included. So much easier or logical to use a familiar funk bassline or a soul hook ya know.
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 06:53:07 PM
^^ Yeah, I guess that's it... but one day, somebody's gonna come along and make a friekin' FORTUNE off that.  
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: platinumk777 on May 11, 2003, 06:59:09 PM
Bubba's new shit was a bit too much country for me. But the way Timbaland was able to combine rap & country was very impressive. Hats off
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 07:05:38 PM
yeah, you'd have to decountryfy it if you were gonna make any money off of it... take the twang out of it, and get rid of all the fiddles and stuff (in my opinion).  The slow country songs would work good, because they've all got really beautiful melodies, or you could just remake the hooks of them in stuff.  It'd be better with the original artists though, like get willie nelson to sing something on your hook, LOL man that crap would SELL, i'm telling you...
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Darksider on May 11, 2003, 07:21:22 PM
dont want people committing suicide to rap music too..
well....good point ;D
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on May 11, 2003, 07:28:50 PM
dont want people committing suicide to rap music too..
well....good point ;D

Yeah Great point...country and hip hop dont mix well....
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Suga Foot on May 11, 2003, 11:07:28 PM
Trauma, if you want to see it done, and nobody's doing it, and you think it would make millions of dollars, what's stopping you from doing it?  Get off ya ass boy!
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 11, 2003, 11:10:59 PM
I'm not that talented, and I don't have the resources to do it.  I also wouldn't get any kind of support from anyone doing it.  If dre did it, he'd make millions, if I did it, I'd never even get anybody to hear a demo tape, and then they'd sue me for trying to make money and not being able to afford the samples.  
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Suga Foot on May 11, 2003, 11:23:46 PM
I'm not that talented, and I don't have the resources to do it.  I also wouldn't get any kind of support from anyone doing it.  If dre did it, he'd make millions, if I did it, I'd never even get anybody to hear a demo tape, and then they'd sue me for trying to make money and not being able to afford the samples.  

Make a demo, send it to dre, He'll steal it, then you just sue him  ;D
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Jome on May 12, 2003, 12:14:05 AM
Bubba Sparxxx - Comin' round (http://medlem.spray.se/jomeog/Bubba_sparxxx-comin_round-xxl.mp3)

Right click and hit "save target as" or "save link as"..
Pretty cool country-sample..
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 12, 2003, 12:18:37 AM
See, that is a good sample, but that's not what I'm talking about, LOL... he's kinda parodying country, that's your sterotypical banjo track and everything.... I was trying to say that country music a lot of times is pretty good stuff, and some songs have awesome hooks and things, so it would sound (to a hiphop head) just as good or better than all the other things that people sample, but yet nobody samples it.  Peace~
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Woodrow on May 12, 2003, 01:33:00 AM
Didn't Coolio make a track with Willie Nelson on his last album? I think it was called the gambler, and was based on willie's song of the same name. I seem to remember a video and everything!
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 12, 2003, 06:25:02 AM
Nah, that's Kenny Rogers, and I thought it was wyclef that worked with him, but maybe it was coolio.
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on May 12, 2003, 11:40:27 AM
cuz that country shits wack brother!lol
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Immortal on May 12, 2003, 12:00:34 PM
country music sucks, like gay men sucking dicks
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Jome on May 12, 2003, 05:12:36 PM
Wyclef Jean feat. Pharoahe Monch & Kenny Rogers - "Dub Plate"

^^ Dope as hell, peep what Rapreviews said about it:

Meanwhile 'Clef is out there trying things that have never been though of before; such as putting Kenny Rogers and Pharoahe Monch (no I'm NOT kidding) on a remix of "Simon Says" which is obscurely called the "Kenny Rogers - Pharoahe Monch Dub Plate." While Pharoahe raps that he got "women in they thongs, gettin it on, but not Sisqo" Kenny croons a modified "Gambler" hook that includes the lines "You got to count your ducats, 'fore you touch the turntables, cause if you run out of big tunes, that means your sound is done." If you're not screaming in horror, you may actually appreciate how Wyclef "breaks all formats" with this song - it's actually quite good.
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Trauma-san on May 12, 2003, 05:45:22 PM
^^ Yup, country musicians are talented, and the music is as real as rap, I dunno why they haven't mixed that much.  Ignorancy I guess.  
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 13, 2003, 08:50:21 AM
I don't think it's ignorance. It's just country just really isn't in demand among most of the people that listen to hip hop.
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on May 13, 2003, 09:25:22 AM
I don't think it's ignorance. It's just country just really isn't in demand among most of the people that listen to hip hop.

Yeah I agree....people that listen to hip hop aren't in much demand of country....
Title: Re:How come nobody ever samples country
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on May 13, 2003, 12:51:37 PM
lol its got nuttin to do with ignorance........jus the shits wack im my opinion, i aint diggin it..........not to say the ppl who do it arent talented or some shit, cuz most likely thers lots of talented country kats out their, jus i cant stand that shit for real

peace