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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 03, 2021, 02:09:51 AM
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https://youtu.be/qCI4aOopr6E
Was watching those classic Fab 5 Freddy 1990's hip-hop and I have a few observations from that era. This was the era just after that 88' era in which Rakim and Kane took the game next level and everyone was going bananas over the shit they were doing. Then just before the West Coast Death Row era dominated the 93-96 rap golden age. What do ya'll think of that era... a few notes..
--It was really positive then even to the point of being corny. I mean a lot of that positive shit is really just propaganda anyway. Like being positive in today's time means encouraging everyone to "be safe" and "take the vaxxine" so it's all just sucker shit.
--There was a lot of average to dope shit in this era but not the bomb shit. Like NWA of course was bringing the bomb shit, but I'm talking the majority to nearly all was just like average to dope. But not much bomb
--The acts that really blew up the 1988 golden era were still around and making noise. LL and Kane started doing like upbeat type dance and music for the ladies. It was still kind of dope because they weren't far from their prime but it wasn't exactly bomb shit. KRS was still in the limelight off the noise he had made late 80's and was doing some dope stuff but it wasn't exactly the bomb shit. But these was the type of heads in control. They were intellgent cats but hip-hop had became a bit too nice.
--People actually believed rap was a fad that was going away at the time. I mean obviously in hip-hop circles they still lived and breathed the shit but I mean in general there was thought that it was a going away fad.
--So really it was Dre and NWA that saved the day. Cause the shit Dre was doing with NWA and then you had DOC doing bomb shit. And Cube leaving NWA and doing some bomb shit as well. Like it all goes back to Dre.
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phuckin like that era.
the early kane, ll, ice t, run dmc albums still in heavy rotation.
kane and ice t are in my personal top 10.
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it wasn’t 1996, but those years had classix galore regardless
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Ice Cube was basically untouchable during that era...classic after classic
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phuckin like that era.
the early kane, ll, ice t, run dmc albums still in heavy rotation.
kane and ice t are in my personal top 10.
Yeah I definitely like the era really enjoying thee old Fab 5 Freddy Yo episodes because it was that era I just barely missed by only 1 or two years later the Chronic dropped. So I remember it like vaguely like a remember a friend of mine and I used to like shit like Young MC “Bust a Move” and “Principals Office” or like Wrex in Effect I had that tape... and that was kind of our idea of what rap was. And we considered it mostly positive and kind of dance, have fun music but I was only 10 and I liked it but not way deep into it...
Going back there’s a ton of dope shit, like nearly every video is dope the culture was vibrant and alive— but not a lot of bomb shit (save for the NWA tree)
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There’s a lot of great hip hop albums from the 80s I’ve gotten into the last few years that I never appreciated when I was younger. One of my favorites is Slick Ricks album
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This shit is becoming life changing actually... I’ve been listening to the same 90-92 shows over and over 3 days st8 and my depression has cleared... I think it’s because it was just before my rhyme so I didn’t have the chance to play it out yet... shit is hittin hard in my senses
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- Naughty by Nature was pretty damn big in this era. I always liked their hits (just now figured out what O.P.P. means). But I'm surprised with how talented Treach was and KayG's production skills they should have had a classic album. They have a string of hits, but not that many headz are actually familiar with their albums. They don't even get mentioned much. Eminem started coming out of the woodwork giving Treach all this props and now people are realizing what a great emcee he was; but it should not have taken that.
I think what they were missing was the classic album. Their albums don't seem to have the overall sequencing and theme that could've brought the project together all the way.
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Treach is eminems #1 as i know.
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Erik Sermon was making a lot of noise in this 90-92 era... see its artists like that who were well respected but I never was too familiar about how they got there.
“Symphony 2” Kool G rap is tremendous on that, everyone on the track is tremendous this one is a banger and I see where Em and Mos def got their ideas for that BET cipher
DJ Quik was making noise
X-Clan doing some really creative stuff visually
And how come this bitch Boss never gets mentioned when female rappers are mentioned? “Deeper” is one of the most bangin joints a female emcee has ever done
...these videos are so well done, I didn’t think the budgets were big enough in those days to make music videos this dope—whoever was doing the directing in these days really earned their paycheck and furthered the vision of the artists
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/2839/11442919543_cd73134eda_z.jpg)
Big Daddy Kane, Madonna & Naomi
Life...😂
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Big Daddy Kane, Madonna & Naomi
Life...😂
DIZZAM!!
...Xzibit has that great line in his debut album "Before hip-hop was all about drama/ before Kane fucced Madonna/ I was bent like a comma/ just me and my bottle/ we shall lead not follow!!"
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DIZZAM!!
...Xzibit has that great line in his debut album "Before hip-hop was all about drama/ before Kane fucced Madonna/ I was bent like a comma/ just me and my bottle/ we shall lead not follow!!"
What Song?
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What Song?
“At the Speed of Light” Epic coming of age joint
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“At the Speed of Light” Epic coming of age joint
Found it:
https://youtu.be/wvoyoMDoOXI
Whole Album was Dopee
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Found it:
https://youtu.be/wvoyoMDoOXI
Whole Album was Dopee
Yeah man its one of the greatest songs in Hip-Hop History. I think it was produced by Muggs. This album was a near classic and had 3 classic joints. This joint, "Papparazi" and the joint he made about his son.
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Yeah man its one of the greatest songs in Hip-Hop History. I think it was produced by Muggs. This album was a near classic and had 3 classic joints. This joint, "Papparazi" and the joint he made about his son.
it’s a classic
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it’s a classic
fo sho
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I loved it. BDK, PE, Cool J, Cube, Professor Griff, 2 Live Crew, Mix A Lot, Ice-T...I sucked it all up like a vacuum cleaner.
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Yeah man its one of the greatest songs in Hip-Hop History. I think it was produced by Muggs. This album was a near classic and had 3 classic joints. This joint, "Papparazi" and the joint he made about his son.
https://youtu.be/Nvh6dayvQh8
Hard hitter.
Was the Song "at the speed of life" also done by Muggs?
Diamond D killed it.
https://youtu.be/9-LP01T_7hs
Where is Hurricane G?
https://youtu.be/B0p_zOQgPLE
Another Banger:
https://youtu.be/B0p_zOQgPLE
https://www.discogs.com/artist/222498-DJ-Pen-One
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Yeah the album was so close to being classic... I’ll admit his style was a bit rough for me in those days... I needed something a bit more polished... but I do remember him... especially with the second album when his video for “What U See is What U Get” was like the #1 video on BET he definitely had my ear—but again it was just slightly rough to my ears.. I was more used to laid back vibes like Snoop or Warren G back in those days.... but once Dre publicly co-signed onto X and he appeared on “Bitch Please” that brought the West back and it was at that point Spring 99 that I finally went out and bought the first two Xzibit albums and he’s been top #5 all time for me since
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I loved it. BDK, PE, Cool J, Cube, Professor Griff, 2 Live Crew, Mix A Lot, Ice-T...I sucked it all up like a vacuum cleaner.
Yeah the more I dig into it this era was spectacular—I’m finding new gems 💎 everyday like last week I caught up to an F Gary Gray directed WC and Maad Circle video that features Coolio before he had the braids—and you can see why the dude got a big solo deal and push because his charisma is thru the roof; but he didn’t have the superstar look yet—he just looks like one of WC’s homies but somebody at the label knew what they were doin’ obviously signing this dude solo
He’s sparin’ bar for bar with WC and steals the show, I’m willing to bet that’s the video that got him signed
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Yeah the album was so close to being classic... I’ll admit his style was a bit rough for me in those days... I needed something a bit more polished... but I do remember him... especially with the second album when his video for “What U See is What U Get” was like the #1 video on BET he definitely had my ear—but again it was just slightly rough to my ears.. I was more used to laid back vibes like Snoop or Warren G back in those days.... but once Dre publicly co-signed onto X and he appeared on “Bitch Please” that brought the West back and it was at that point Spring 99 that I finally went out and bought the first two Xzibit albums and he’s been top #5 all time for me since
at the speed of life, 40 dayz & 40 nightz, and restless is a goat level 3 album run …… all 3 are certified classix in my book
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Treach is eminems #1 as i know.
treach and redman.
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at the speed of life, 40 dayz & 40 nightz, and restless is a goat level 3 album run …… all 3 are certified classix in my book
Yeah... it's one of the greatest 3 album runs in history but not the all-time greatest. At the Speed of Light was like 4 mics (near classic) and 40 Days and 40 Nightz was 4 and a half mics (near classic) and Restless was 5 mics (classic thx to Dre assist).
Eminem ran off three 5 Mic Classics to Open his Career:
Slim Shady LP
MMLP
The Eminem Show
Then the Greatest 3 Album Run of All-Rhyme is 2pac's three album run which nobody will ever match unless they can go to prison with the #1 album on the charts, then rule the world and destroy the East Coast with All Eyez On Me, and then speak from the grave with 7 Day Theory:
Me Against the World
All Eyez On Me
7 Day Theory
Honorable Mention:
Chronic
2001
Compton
Stillmatic
God's Son
Hip-Hop Is Dead
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Personal funny thing.
I aint listened ll cool j for years couse ice t got a song with an outro where he saying keep it, i dont want it bout a cool j tape.
And if t doesnt like neither do i. ;D
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Yeah... it's one of the greatest 3 album runs in history but not the all-time greatest. At the Speed of Light was like 4 mics (near classic) and 40 Days and 40 Nightz was 4 and a half mics (near classic) and Restless was 5 mics (classic thx to Dre assist).
Eminem ran off three 5 Mic Classics to Open his Career:
Slim Shady LP
MMLP
The Eminem Show
Then the Greatest 3 Album Run of All-Rhyme is 2pac's three album run which nobody will ever match unless they can go to prison with the #1 album on the charts, then rule the world and destroy the East Coast with All Eyez On Me, and then speak from the grave with 7 Day Theory:
Me Against the World
All Eyez On Me
7 Day Theory
Honorable Mention:
Chronic
2001
Compton
Stillmatic
God's Son
Hip-Hop Is Dead
calling at the speed 4 mics is underselling it .. actually more people claim that a classic over restless.
but to each his own..dre em and pac 3 album run is goated too, no doubt. for nas’ run, id pick his first 3 albums.. cube with amerikkkaz most wanted, death certificate, and the predator is up there as well.
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At the speed and 40 dayz are def classics.
Restless aint TO ME.
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At the speed and 40 dayz are def classics.
Restless aint TO ME.
this was the overwhelming opinion when restless first dropped
i initially didn’t call it classic either, but over time it achieved classic status and in retrospect it stood the test of time
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at the speed of life, 40 dayz & 40 nightz, and restless is a goat level 3 album run …… all 3 are certified classix in my book
No doubt.
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Yeah the album was so close to being classic... I’ll admit his style was a bit rough for me in those days... I needed something a bit more polished... but I do remember him... especially with the second album when his video for “What U See is What U Get” was like the #1 video on BET he definitely had my ear—but again it was just slightly rough to my ears.. I was more used to laid back vibes like Snoop or Warren G back in those days.... but once Dre publicly co-signed onto X and he appeared on “Bitch Please” that brought the West back and it was at that point Spring 99 that I finally went out and bought the first two Xzibit albums and he’s been top #5 all time for me since
Exactly. But he still DOPE
Even before Paparazzi "money and a game" :😂
https://youtu.be/spXZaJQ6ltg
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calling at the speed 4 mics is underselling it .. actually more people claim that a classic over restless.
but to each his own..dre em and pac 3 album run is goated too, no doubt. for nas’ run, id pick his first 3 albums.. cube with amerikkkaz most wanted, death certificate, and the predator is up there as well.
Agreed.. saying it's 4 mics is under-selling it.. I was more so trying to point out how the overall quality of Xzibit's albums improved incrementally.
But.. I think you can't argue that the overall mixing and mastering of the debut is slightly under-budget. Then with 40 Dayz it felt like he had the full backing of the label and homies in the industry to make a classic. Just the sound quality of it alone when you play it in your stereo is an upgrade. Full production value and fully realized project. Then on the 3rd album Dre executive produced it and so that took it next level and classic.
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https://youtu.be/fGjgNhsTtBw
https://youtu.be/fcYY6xwwfCE
https://youtu.be/9aofoBrFNdg
https://youtu.be/2kdQ4soLcac
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Agreed.. saying it's 4 mics is under-selling it.. I was more so trying to point out how the overall quality of Xzibit's albums improved incrementally.
But.. I think you can't argue that the overall mixing and mastering of the debut is slightly under-budget. Then with 40 Dayz it felt like he had the full backing of the label and homies in the industry to make a classic. Just the sound quality of it alone when you play it in your stereo is an upgrade. Full production value and fully realized project. Then on the 3rd album Dre executive produced it and so that took it next level and classic.
the production on at the speed is not dre, but it’s still top tier and sounds great
and he was lyrically a bit sharper in his early years
dj muggs, e-swift, diamond d was no joke, and it had the big label backing with loud records and rca
restless was indeed a step above production wise, but at the speed was not lacking homie.. dust it off and give it another spin. it might be better than u remember.
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the production on at the speed is not dre, but it’s still top tier and sounds great
and he was lyrically a bit sharper in his early years
dj muggs, e-swift, diamond d was no joke, and it had the big label backing with loud records and rca
restless was indeed a step above production wise, but at the speed was not lacking homie.. dust it off and give it another spin. it might be better than u remember.
Come on homie I’m as big a fan of At The Speed of Light as anyone I don’t have to dust it off because it never collected any dust. I break out that album all the time.
When I say production I don’t mean beats I mean the OVERALL production of it. I mean the mixing and mastering. I guarantee you Xzibit was working on a modest budget for that album. Like just judge the sound quality I don’t think it’s the same. 40 Dayz seems like a full budget cause he got to work with more guest artists, producers and the overall quality, mixing, mastering sounds more fully realized.
Which plays louder in your speakers? Bump “Welcome to L.A.” and get back to me.
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Come on homie I’m as big a fan of At The Speed of Light as anyone
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the production on at the speed is not dre, but it’s still top tier and sounds great
Sure. Why not?
Doggfather was dope too WITHOUT dre.
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Okay yeah.. but still you’re splitting hairs again
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Okay yeah.. but still you’re splitting hairs again
dude i’m super familiar with snoops debut album doggyway and i can tell you with certainty that it’s even better than at the speed of light
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