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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Hatesrats™ on May 19, 2003, 07:41:29 PM
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Who think's 50's success will stall Eminem.
I mean does anybody think the expectations are at it's highest point for Slim now...
his nexx lp might be make or break.
I think the media has found their new Icon...
50 Cent.
Personaly...I gotta go with 50, as far as material & endless possibility's he can acheive.
It kinda seems like Em alredy reached the nexus last year (2002). I can't really see him having a better year than that ever.
He peaked already, nexx is the downward spiral.
anybody else feel this coming..?
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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eminem will do fine. 50 cent won't do better anymore as he did with 'get rich...'
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you ever thought Em might want him to overshadow him? Em does make money off him, after all..
Em's next LP will still sell, although im not too sure about 50's
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I agree with you about '02 being Em's best year, and he won't top it. I don't however think that he's gonna go "down", but will be as successful as he's always been, just not as good as last year.
50 Cent is probably not gonna have as good of a year as he's having right now.
....Just my opinion
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all i can say is ill be glad when both disappear off the face of the earth
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i dont think 50 will ever be as big as eminem, but at the moment he is, and will probably be for the next year, im sure em dont mind, because hes producing it, and if eminem, drops an LP itll sell like no other
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all i can say is ill be glad when both disappear off the face of the earth
::) Still hurt from the Everlast-feud ?? This can't be healthy.. :P
As for the topic, I think there's place for both..
50 have joined "rap elite", and Eminem is already there..
Em doesn't really have nothing to prove any more, and as big as his popularity is, I can't see how a Eminem-album can sell less than 4 million..
And he has also proved that he doesn't rely on Dre, for those that thought Dre was the only reason he sold records.
As for 50, he seems ready for stardom..
He's a workaholic, and writes hits in every direction..
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Who think's 50's success will stall Eminem.
I mean does anybody think the expectations are at it's highest point for Slim now...
his nexx lp might be make or break.
I think the media has found their new Icon...
50 Cent.
Personaly...I gotta go with 50, as far as material & endless possibility's he can acheive.
It kinda seems like Em alredy reached the nexus last year (2002). I can't really see him having a better year than that ever.
He peaked already, nexx is the downward spiral.
anybody else feel this coming..?
Hatesrats 2oooTre
I can feel it coming also.....It happens to every rapper.
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nah eminem is a media sensation...he will allways sell records with his rock/hiphop style
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The other thing about Eminem is that he is developing a lot of other elements of his talent, not just rappin', but writing beats, developing new artists, ect. Plus, and I love 50 and all, but lyrically Em is just outta his league, his shit just keeps gettin' tighter..just my opinion.
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Thanx 4 the feedback..
prop's to everyone who responded to my thread.
let's keep it going ya'll.
More talk
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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nah 50 is goin end up like DMX. DMX pushed crazy units with his 1st 2 albums an its been down hill ever since. He still goin plat but aint seeing the sucess of his 1st album. Thats goin be 50. 50 mos likely never see the sucess he is seeing again in his career. on to em. if this is em's last album like he says its goin be , i think its goin be a classic. See he's has to go pop on his albums to continue selling. even if he didnt he still sell but he sell more with his pop appeal. See this is his last album, it will sell but there is no need to put out pop hits to keep the pop crowd. I think hes goin come with just hip hop a put out a tru classic hip hop knows he is capable of putting out
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Em is gonna do 2-3 more albums, originally TES was going to be his last album, but with the signing of new talent..
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Eminem is here to stay !! ;D 8)
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lol 50 is a joke compared to eminem
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It all comes down to if eminem can maintain what he's doing. If Eminem's next LP is put out and it is demmed better than 50s GTODT then eminem's new LP then eminem will be pushed straight back into the limelight... If its not (which i doubtful) i think 50Cent will eventully be the new face (in the public eye) on Shady Records. Although we are all overlooking Obie Trice... He could be a very big hit...
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Another thing to add: As long as 50 is part of Shady/Aftyermath and has Dre and Eminem supplying beats for him, I see 50 going nowhere...
Someone compared 50 to DMX and said he will fall off, but DMX never had Eminem and Dr. Dre behind him.
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Eminem's next album will be just as big. He'll probably sell another 8 million, minimum 4 million (that's if he only has 1 single).
I see no reason not to believe that his next album will be his best and still put up huge numbers.
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all i can say is ill be glad when both disappear off the face of the earth
::) Still hurt from the Everlast-feud ?? This can't be healthy.. :P
nice theory,but ive hated eminem long before that went down
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eminem will do fine. 50 cent won't do better anymore as he did with 'get rich...'
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all i can say is ill be glad when both disappear off the face of the earth
agree to the fullest. the dickriding of these 2 has surpassed snoops on the westcoast board.
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I predict 50's star will fade soon. He is at best an above average rapper, who became a multiplatinum artist because of his connections to Eminem & Dr. Dre. He has sold 4 million records, but doesn't have the talent to hang with the rap elite. His career will be like the Ja Rule's & DMX's... media's favorite for a few years, then eventually fall back from the spotlight. I can't see Eminem going anywhere, though. Most likely, he will continue to put out multi-platinum albums until the day he retires, with every release from his Shady/Aftermath empire going double platinum at least. Everything with his name on it sells these days... It's fucked up but that's the way it is. Peace
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-DMX fell off, but he put out 3 pretty tight albums, you cant forget that.
-50 Cent isn't as good as he seems right now. Without Em and Dre he would just be an above average East Coast rapper. But with Dre and Em's beats he can still make some pretty hot tracks. I think his next one or two albums will still sell, but then he will fall off unless he miraculously improves as a lyracist like Eminem has.
-I don't see Em falling off until he retires. Some people say his old stuff is better than his new stuff, but I think he has just gotten better and better (although I love his old shit) and will continue to do so until he throws in the towel.
peace
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I think 50's shine is more temporary...Em's will be more consistent over the long run.
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nah 50 is goin end up like DMX. DMX pushed crazy units with his 1st 2 albums an its been down hill ever since. He still goin plat but aint seeing the sucess of his 1st album. Thats goin be 50. 50 mos likely never see the sucess he is seeing again in his career. on to em. if this is em's last album like he says its goin be , i think its goin be a classic. See he's has to go pop on his albums to continue selling. even if he didnt he still sell but he sell more with his pop appeal. See this is his last album, it will sell but there is no need to put out pop hits to keep the pop crowd. I think hes goin come with just hip hop a put out a tru classic hip hop knows he is capable of putting out
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I think 50's shine is more temporary...Em's will be more consistent over the long run.
That's what people thought about Eminem homie..
And Em's still here pushing more unit's and still blowing peep's away with his talent. years later, after being written off by alot of peep's as being a candidate for a flash in the pan.
+ I think 50 cent is already bigger than just the dude who rides with Dre & Em, ImO...he's alredy created a buzz so big at the moment that no matter who he rides with his record's will fly off the shelf, from now on.
If his Shady/Aftermath ties were to be severed today...I think 50 would still sell no matter what. The guy's got that special extra needed to be a star....
Em's just gonna sit back and make that doe..
And 50's gonna continue to climb, I don't see G-unit going anywhere homies. Dude has just scratched the surface.
We got ton's of track's...
but I still think the best of 50 is yet to come.
Hatesrats 2oooTre
P.S. I don't consider 50 the best, just one of the more consistent rapper's left in the game...when his name is attached it's almost guaranteed 90% fire. The dude can do no wrong right now. Let's see where the card's take both of them.
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we all know why eminem sells 8-10 million recs every time he comes out, cuz his white........u dont gotta be a genious to know and even groupies can deny but deep dwn know thats truth...........HE SAID IT HIMSELF....but as far as talent goes, no doubt eminem has loads.......
anyways...........2003........eminem has been outshined by 50 cent by far...........but then again the nigga has outshined everyone this year by far and in da club is jus beyond huge, its the anthem of the year already......eminem wanted 50 to blow up so did dre, but i dont think they wanted him to oversahdow them........which he has been doin this year, cuz his on the mouth of everyone alot mo then eminem and dre keeps a low profile anyway, so thats all good........
but as long as 50 cent is on aftermath n shady n keeps sellin 3-4 million copies of his album, his gonna get bigger n bigger...........as long as dre supplyin him with beats..........if eminem produces or doesnt on his album dont matta, most cats dont like his production anyways, they rather see him rap on a joint.......and that gives 50 cent mo sales to.....
id say, on the eastcoast, 50 is already become the biggest star on that side since biggy n dmx..............only time will tell if he can keep it goin...........but with dre behind him, who can say he wont......dre is a fuckin genious
as fo eminem.........he the boss of shady recs, and he gone continue to come out with dope albums cuz again, he as he has on his other three joints done on aftermath, got dre ex producin his joint and wont let nuttin wack come out on aftermath...i jus wish he does mo production on this joint then the last one! and of course he gone sell......the next crop of lil young suburb kids are gon want they mommies to buy them the joint for the first single and then his already gotta fan base which is huge.....
so basically.........
50 cent is gon stay big imo.......
eminem is gon stay big imo......
BUT quality wise.............no dre..........no great album for both kats........jus a personal opinion....well it'll be alot harder for them to come with great albums anyway
peace
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i still think eminem is lyrically better then 50 an when 'Em drops his next single it will be back to all eyez on him again and i agree that 50's next cd is probably not going to sell as good as the last, i will still buy it an all but lots of the mainstream hip hoppers hopped on his last album but i dont think 'Em has any problems with being overshadowed
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all i can say is ill be glad when both disappear off the face of the earth
100% agreed!
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Dope talk..
another round' of proper's for everyone.
Let's keep it burining
Hatesrats 2oooTre
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all i can say is ill be glad when both disappear off the face of the earth
i dont care about 50, but i like eminem a lot
agree to the fullest. the dickriding of these 2 has surpassed snoops on the westcoast board
so true, casue hes like by so many pop listeners and skaters, that it just makes you a corny white boy, listining to eminem, even though his shit is nice
i think he should come out wit an album less pop, and really "gangsta",