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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: Sccit on May 09, 2023, 01:58:00 PM
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the NY cock gobblers at it again
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Bullshit. Never once for a minute did I not think rbx was a highlight of the album.
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That is a terrible take. Lyrical Gangbang and High Powered are 2 of the best songs on the entire album.
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That is a terrible take. Lyrical Gangbang and High Powered are 2 of the best songs on the entire album.
not to mention, rbx literally won a grammy for writing let me ride
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not to mention, rbx literally won a grammy for writing let me ride
:francis:
exactly.
rbx is an MC who spits some real stuff unlike others
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Dj clark kent can clean RBXs shoes….
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he should stick to DJing and stop talking
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he should stick to DJing and stop talking
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Who? It's embarrassing the things people will say to try be 'relevant' or for social media likes. The whole genre is in aa right sorry state at the moment. The music has taken a backseat for this crap.
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I can think of east coast albums ruined by someone. Consequence, Beats Rhymes and Life
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not to mention, rbx literally won a grammy for writing let me ride
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And his verse on Stranded On Death Row was cold blooded
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And his verse on Stranded On Death Row was cold blooded
Absolutely. It would have been cool to see if RBX could have put together an album with Dre. His albums he came out with were decent, but nothing compared to his work with Dre.
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expect a response from x on the new album “hibernation shivers” 8)
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Who? It's embarrassing the things people will say to try be 'relevant' or for social media likes. The whole genre is in aa right sorry state at the moment. The music has taken a backseat for this crap.
one of them east coast cock gobblin “gatekeepers” who been hatin on the west since way back
he’s a producer from biggies camp, also did extensive work with rocafella.. he produced skys the limit, various cuts off reasonable doubt amongst others
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he included doggystyle though...
somehow i agree w him about doggystyle
i skip less tracks on doggystyle than on the chronic but its just me
dont get me wrong i love the chronic but yeah the very same tracks RBX is on... although he a dope MC, its the production that lacks on those tracks...
The Chronic was NO G-Funk album, it had some of that but not all.
Doggystyle is.
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he included doggystyle though...
somehow i agree w him about doggystyle
i skip less tracks on doggystyle than on the chronic but its just me
dont get me wrong i love the chronic but yeah the very same tracks RBX is on... although he a dope MC, its the production that lacks on those tracks...
The Chronic was NO G-Funk album, it had some of that but not all.
Doggystyle is.
stranded on death row, lyrical gang bang and high powered all 10/10 classix
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who gives a fucc about DJ Clark Kent wasn't he Jay-Z's DJ? Makes sense
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this kinda reminds me when the Source reviewer didn’t like “Little Ghetto Boy” so they wound up giving the Chronic 4.5 mics instead of 5, although later on they went back and corrected it
some people just want to be different for the sake of being different, the general consensus on all coasts is that the Chronic is nothing but a 5 mic classic 8)
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Doggystyle >>> The Chronic period
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this kinda reminds me when the Source reviewer didn’t like “Little Ghetto Boy” so they wound up giving the Chronic 4.5 mics instead of 5, although later on they went back and corrected it
some people just want to be different for the sake of being different, the general consensus on all coasts is that the Chronic is nothing but a 5 mic classic 8)
Yeah that happens a lot with music; a lot of times people are afraid to state the obvious because they think if they do they will appear like a casual fan. So people can’t state the obvious like albums like All Eyez On Me or Eminem Show or Chronic people can’t say these albums are perfect they have to find something wrong with them and split hairs just to make their opinion stand out.
They are okay with saying Nas Illmatic is 5 mics (which it is) because the album wasn’t a big album commercially. But if it had been a diamond selling album they would’ve tried to find some flaw in that album as well like saying the intro was too long or some shit… or it didn’t have enough songs on it…
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Yeah that happens a lot with music; a lot of times people are afraid to state the obvious because they think if they do they will appear like a casual fan. So people can’t state the obvious like albums like All Eyez On Me or Eminem Show or Chronic people can’t say these albums are perfect they have to find something wrong with them and split hairs just to make their opinion stand out.
They are okay with saying Nas Illmatic is 5 mics (which it is) because the album wasn’t a big album commercially. But if it had been a diamond selling album they would’ve tried to find some flaw in that album as well like saying the intro was too long or some shit… or it didn’t have enough songs on it…
y’all missing the main point
this is a classic east coast hating on west coast thing
it’s not to be different because if dre was a NY artist he would 100% say The Chronic is classic
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this kinda reminds me when the Source reviewer didn’t like “Little Ghetto Boy” so they wound up giving the Chronic 4.5 mics instead of 5, although later on they went back and corrected it
some people just want to be different for the sake of being different, the general consensus on all coasts is that the Chronic is nothing but a 5 mic classic 8)
LGB might be my fav Song on the album...they must be trippin
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he included doggystyle though...
somehow i agree w him about doggystyle
i skip less tracks on doggystyle than on the chronic but its just me
dont get me wrong i love the chronic but yeah the very same tracks RBX is on... although he a dope MC, its the production that lacks on those tracks...
The Chronic was NO G-Funk album, it had some of that but not all.
Doggystyle is.
nope production doesn't lack at all on any song on The Chronic and yes the chronic was a G-funk album and every song on The Chronic is dope and there is no skippable tracks on The Chronic
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Fuck Clark Kent. His opionions are always horrible.
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Fuck Clark Kent. His opionions are always horrible.
He wanted to make fun of the album but couldn't because RBX raps better than most. He hates the West but secretly does call the album a classic but not a classic because he thinks RBX saved the album due to lyricism. He calls it a classic when its a joke. He hates A-B-C rhymes
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y’all missing the main point
this is a classic east coast hating on west coast thing
it’s not to be different because if dre was a NY artist he would 100% say The Chronic is classic
Agreed. I almost said, "they are fine with giving Nas 5 mics because it was an East Coast album" but instead I pointed out the fact it wasn't a major commercial release at the time. I mean, I was only 12 years old at that rhyme (time), but was already a hip-hop head and I didn't even know the Illmatic album existed until after "If I Ruled The World" blew up in 96' and I was like "Damn, they really ride this Nas guy's dick for some reason." I was a fan of the song so I checked out It Was Written and was like.. "Nah this dude ain't all that." It wasn't till 1999 I ever gave Illmatic a chance.
But anyway, yeah, no doubt, if Chronic was an East Coast album it would've had 5 mics for sure and no complaints
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y’all missing the main point
this is a classic east coast hating on west coast thing
it’s not to be different because if dre was a NY artist he would 100% say The Chronic is classic
I agree in general but I don't know if that was the case in this instance
I think Clark Kent was hating on RBX, not the west with his statement
Fuck Clark Kent. His opionions are always horrible.
agreed...he is a clown
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I don’t get triggered by these opinions anymore.
Chronic and Doggystyle are both classic albums to me.
We all have slightly different tastes.
I love RBX’s voice and style but I can see why he might not be everyone’s cup of tea.
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I don’t get triggered by these opinions anymore.
Chronic and Doggystyle are both classic albums to me.
We all have slightly different tastes.
I love RBX’s voice and style but I can see why he might not be everyone’s cup of tea.
Dre was hitting you with different styles and flavors on the Chronic in a way that's never been done before and not really ever been done since. So at the very least you would appreciate RBX as playing his role and bringing some added ingredients to the record, and at most you would believe in him the way Dre believed with him at the time--some have said Dre had RBX pinpointed to be a next big solo act on Death Row, and then had him designated again to be the first big solo artist on Aftermath. "Blunt Time" was a big time banger for on Aftermath Presents and ahead of its time.
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I agree in general but I don't know if that was the case in this instance
I think Clark Kent was hating on RBX, not the west with his statement
agreed...he is a clown
naah he’s a known west coast hater since the 90s
he’s just looking for a reason to say our most monumental album isn’t classix
see through
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I don’t get triggered by these opinions anymore.
Yeah, weirdly I'm the same way. 20 years ago I would have been ready to go to war over something like this, but these days I just yawn at it. Probably because the east coast hasn't had much influence in the game for about 15 years now. It's a dude with a butter knife making fun of a dude with a cheese knife. He doesn't realize how pathetic it is.
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Agreed. I almost said, "they are fine with giving Nas 5 mics because it was an East Coast album" but instead I pointed out the fact it wasn't a major commercial release at the time. I mean, I was only 12 years old at that rhyme (time), but was already a hip-hop head and I didn't even know the Illmatic album existed until after "If I Ruled The World" blew up in 96' and I was like "Damn, they really ride this Nas guy's dick for some reason." I was a fan of the song so I checked out It Was Written and was like.. "Nah this dude ain't all that." It wasn't till 1999 I ever gave Illmatic a chance.
But anyway, yeah, no doubt, if Chronic was an East Coast album it would've had 5 mics for sure and no complaints
wrong even if it was the East Coast album does not mean it would get Five mics because Mobb Deep Infamous never got five mics.. no you were not a hip hop head at the age of 12 if you did not know Illmatic by Nas .because it was promoted everywhere from yo MTV Raps to Rap City. It was written as a classic and one of NASA's best work and if you didn't think that was dope you're not a real hip hop head.. if you didn't think Nas was all that after it was written you're not a real hip hop head and you don't know lyricism or skill.. real hip hop heads are not biased towards any Coast and are all about learning and should know Nas by then and before 99
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Straight hate and super subjective how can you put Reasonable Doubt as a classic? It had no impact what so ever didnt catapult any change or even spawn any thing but Jay-Z to jump on the Puffy/Bad Boy sound instead of the Raekwon/Nas mafioso that NY was on. Dope album but so? So was OBCL by Raekwon and had hit singles and started a whole style change coast to coast. Reasonable Doubt did none of that.
Ready to Die was Ice Cube and the Chronics straight up. Hands down he didn’t find his style and flor until One More Chance Remix. That album was super heavily WS influenced but NY sucks their own dick. All the major podcast are lit there same as the 90s with the magazines. The writers are their friends look Dream Hampton, she wrote reviews for both Vibe and Source see what she wrote about WS artist reviews and interviews and see what she did for Jay. She even had a hand in Decoted his book. Same with Biggie. They’re all friends and had no interest in WS music back then or now.
Jay-Z admitted he didn’t want Rap Music to go back West in that book. It’s hate and unneeded and hip hop shit or not Illmatic didn’t rock in the West or the South bro, dope album but it wasn’t huge when it dropped check the sales bro, It was Writtten was way bigger.
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wrong even if it was the East Coast album does not mean it would get Five Nights because Mobb Deep Infamous never got five mics.. no you were not a hip hop head at the age of 12 if you did not know Illmatic by Nas .because it was promoted everywhere from yo MTV Raps to Rap City. It was written as a classic and one of NASA's best work and if you didn't think that was dope you're not a real hip hop head.. if you didn't think Nas was all that after it was written you're not a real hip hop head and you don't know lyricism or skill.. real hip hop heads are not biased towards any Coast and are all about learning and should know Nas by then and before 99
you’re confused if u don’t think the east was biased against the west in the 90s
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you’re confused if u don’t think the east was biased against the west in the 90s
no I agree the East was bias versus the midwest, west coast and South back then but being a East Coast album doesn't mean it would get rated good.. Mobb Deep infamous, biggie ready to die and Wu-Tang Clan enter the 36 Chambers didn't get 5 mics and they are East Coast albums
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Somebody has to tell this Banana that RBX was also on Doggystyle.
As far as The Chronic VS Doggystyle they're both on the same level to me. They're two different style albums so I can't choose personally. I gave them both the same amount of play.
The Chronic to me was a better album while crusin in the ride HIGH!
Doggystyle was a better album staying at home chillin HIGH!
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wrong even if it was the East Coast album does not mean it would get Five mics because Mobb Deep Infamous never got five mics.. no you were not a hip hop head at the age of 12 if you did not know Illmatic by Nas .because it was promoted everywhere from yo MTV Raps to Rap City. It was written as a classic and one of NASA's best work and if you didn't think that was dope you're not a real hip hop head.. if you didn't think Nas was all that after it was written you're not a real hip hop head and you don't know lyricism or skill.. real hip hop heads are not biased towards any Coast and are all about learning and should know Nas by then and before 99
Wasn't claiming to have had the most refined taste in hip-hop at the age of 12 in 1993 when Chronic and Doggystyle got me into hip-hop. I was mostly just leaning on anything Death Row related and then whatever caught my ear on radio/video. My taste in music didn't really start to refine itself until the age of 17 in the year 1999.
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That's Clark Kent's opinion which he's entitled to but its a bit of a strange one to be honest. RBX's appearances are an important part of the album, he's on there almost as much as Snoop Dogg is, so yeah, I can't get with that take at all.
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That's Clark Kent's opinion which he's entitled to but its a bit of a strange one to be honest. RBX's appearances are an important part of the album, he's on there almost as much as Snoop Dogg is, so yeah, I can't get with that take at all.
Nah. RBX is only spittin' on four songs.
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Nah. RBX is only spittin' on four songs.
but he also wrote a lot
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but he also wrote a lot
RBX, Snoop & The DOC penned majority of those albums
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Nah. RBX is only spittin' on four songs.
I thought Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre were a rap group cause Snoop was really the star for 3 straight tracks Deep Cover, G Thang, Dre Day...
Then when you see the album it's like Snoop's name is just listed there with the others like RBX and technically appearing on around the same number of tracks. But to compare RBX's impact to Snoop's for the album is incomparable. We are all hardcore West Coast fans but to the average fan non-rap fan who also listened to and heard the Chronic, people like my brother. They all know Snoop was there but don't know RBX. RBX tracks sort of filled out the album the way Randy Brown or Bill Wennington filled out the Chicago Bulls championship roster. Randy had great defense and energy off the bench and Wennington had a size and nice little mid-range jumper. But I doubt my brother (just a regular Joe and not an NBA fan) remembers that either of those two guys were on the team. He knows Rodman (Snoop) and Pippen (Dogg Pound) were on there though.
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I thought Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre were a rap group cause Snoop was really the star for 3 straight tracks Deep Cover, G Thang, Dre Day...
Then when you see the album it's like Snoop's name is just listed there with the others like RBX and technically appearing on around the same number of tracks. But to compare RBX's impact to Snoop's for the album is incomparable. We are all hardcore West Coast fans but to the average fan non-rap fan who also listened to and heard the Chronic, people like my brother. They all know Snoop was there but don't know RBX. RBX tracks sort of filled out the album the way Randy Brown or Bill Wennington filled out the Chicago Bulls championship roster. Randy had great defense and energy off the bench and Wennington had a size and nice little mid-range jumper. But I doubt my brother (just a regular Joe and not an NBA fan) remembers that either of those two guys were on the team. He knows Rodman (Snoop) and Pippen (Dogg Pound) were on there though.
Bill Wennington wow...I'll never forget that double nickel game at the Garden in '95 when everyone thought Jordan was going to shoot and then passed it to Bill for the game winner
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I thought Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre were a rap group cause Snoop was really the star for 3 straight tracks Deep Cover, G Thang, Dre Day...
Then when you see the album it's like Snoop's name is just listed there with the others like RBX and technically appearing on around the same number of tracks. But to compare RBX's impact to Snoop's for the album is incomparable. We are all hardcore West Coast fans but to the average fan non-rap fan who also listened to and heard the Chronic, people like my brother. They all know Snoop was there but don't know RBX. RBX tracks sort of filled out the album the way Randy Brown or Bill Wennington filled out the Chicago Bulls championship roster. Randy had great defense and energy off the bench and Wennington had a size and nice little mid-range jumper. But I doubt my brother (just a regular Joe and not an NBA fan) remembers that either of those two guys were on the team. He knows Rodman (Snoop) and Pippen (Dogg Pound) were on there though.
snoop was more a force from a commercial standpoint, being the face out in the public and having that star power but as far as actual work put in behind the scenes, rbx writing was just as vital .. and calling him bill wennington is very disrespectful.. i mean he wrote “let me ride” for fux sake, probably the second most popular song on the album and the one that won a grammy
c’mon now
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LGB might be my fav Song on the album...they must be trippin
It was Dr. Dr's fav song on the album as well.
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It was Dr. Dr's fav song on the album as well.
Good to hear that
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snoop was more a force from a commercial standpoint, being the face out in the public and having that star power but as far as actual work put in behind the scenes, rbx writing was just as vital .. and calling him bill wennington is very disrespectful.. i mean he wrote “let me ride” for fux sake, probably the second most popular song on the album and the one that won a grammy
c’mon now
I meant in the eyes of an average Joe like my brother. He's not even a rap fan or hip-hop head or NBA fan but he knows who Jordan is, he knows who Rodman is, who Pippen is, he even knows Toni Kukoc. He knows Dre, knows Snoop, barely knows the Dogg Pound, but doesn't know RBX or Bill Wennington.
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I meant in the eyes of an average Joe like my brother. He's not even a rap fan or hip-hop head or NBA fan but he knows who Jordan is, he knows who Rodman is, who Pippen is, he even knows Toni Kukoc. He knows Dre, knows Snoop, barely knows the Dogg Pound, but doesn't know RBX or Bill Wennington.
yea but you’re conflating not knowing something with the importance of it
let’s take george lucas for instance .. most people who went to see star wars cared about george lucas or even knew what he looked like .. everyone was familiar with harrison ford.. but that doesn’t mean george lucas’ role any less important
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RBX>Everything Cunt Kent has produced :D