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Title: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: Okka on May 12, 2023, 04:36:51 AM
"No Limit Top Dogg" turned 24 years old a couple of days ago. What are your top 5 songs from this project?

(https://i.discogs.com/nk0utaol_osrrJxFAW66bFpruBGlVS3F_WO6B-NnzN8/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:592/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTk3Mzk1/MTctMTQ4NTYxNzE3/Ny01ODc0LmpwZWc.jpeg)

Here are the music videos from the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRrmoAACfic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Oj07IY5xY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g96vP23chCc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi7A7P7fths

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJTFiM45v9U
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: doggfather on May 12, 2023, 06:41:16 AM
neva considered this as a classic.

to me this is somewhere half between the no limit weak ass trash Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told and the doggystyle records masterpiece Tha Last Meal.


When this came out i aint wanna buy it at all thought snoop is washed up, and burn out rapper.

but i saw on tv the 1st single G bedtime stories and really liked the funny horror theme video, than i saw the cd in a record store and saw Sticky Fingaz on it I have to bought!

after this 2 track i heard the ultimate hit b please and got faith in snoop again!

snoopafella and party with a dpg are my last 2 choose for the top 5 tracks.

but i really lik the dolomite intro, and skit! doin too much, in love with a thug and my heat goos boom are tight jams too!
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: Corleone Diamonds on May 12, 2023, 04:14:20 PM
NL Top Dogg was dope, so was DGITBSNTBT
Last Meal & Eastsidaz First Album Was Last Good Snoop Projects.

OP: Too Many Songs To Name
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: HighEyeCue on May 13, 2023, 03:44:19 AM
neva considered this as a classic.

to me this is somewhere half between the no limit weak ass trash Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told and the doggystyle records masterpiece Tha Last Meal.


When this came out i aint wanna buy it at all thought snoop is washed up, and burn out rapper.

but i saw on tv the 1st single G bedtime stories and really liked the funny horror theme video, than i saw the cd in a record store and saw Sticky Fingaz on it I have to bought!

after this 2 track i heard the ultimate hit b please and got faith in snoop again!

snoopafella and party with a dpg are my last 2 choose for the top 5 tracks.

but i really lik the dolomite intro, and skit! doin too much, in love with a thug and my heat goos boom are tight jams too!

I don't think its classic either...great comeback album though

Bitch Please
Buck Em
Just Dippin
Doin Too Much
Down for my N's
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 13, 2023, 08:33:42 AM
"No Limit Top Dogg" turned 24 years old a couple of days ago. What are your top 5 songs from this project?

(https://i.discogs.com/nk0utaol_osrrJxFAW66bFpruBGlVS3F_WO6B-NnzN8/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:592/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTk3Mzk1/MTctMTQ4NTYxNzE3/Ny01ODc0LmpwZWc.jpeg)

Here are the music videos from the album.


Good thread but a couple of the joints you posted were wack.  "G Bedtime Stories" was the worst lead single/video to a classic album--ever.   And "Down For My Niccaz" is No Limit garbage that ignorant rap fans in KC thought was the only reason worth buying the Top Dogg album. 

My 5 joints from the album are

1.  "Bitch Please" - set off the West Coast resurgence and gave rise to Xzibit's transition from underground to star
2.  "Dipppin" - The first big official Dre/Snoop reunion on the mic
3.  "Buck-em" - Sticky was down with Dre and Aftermath at the rhyme (time)
4.  "My Heat Goes Boom" - this joint goes hard and is an actual diss detailing an actual event makes the joint even harder, he performs it from the backseat with his homies in one of those Smokefest st8 to videos

^^^^ those are the obvious choices.  Those are 4 of the biggest bangers in rap history.  After that it's kind of a toss up for me, a lot of good cuts to round out the album, but I'll go with..

5.  "in Love With A Thug" which is based on a true story and a good 90's rap/love song.  Better than Daz "Only For You" but not as good as Master P's "I Got the Hook Up" feat. Sons of Funk
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 13, 2023, 08:36:53 AM
I don't think its classic either...great comeback album though

Bitch Please
Buck Em
Just Dippin
Doin Too Much
Down for my N's

Come on homie we always agree on everything how can you not have "Heat Goes Boom" in top 5?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 13, 2023, 08:40:09 AM
neva considered this as a classic.

to me this is somewhere half between the no limit weak ass trash Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told and the doggystyle records masterpiece Tha Last Meal.


When this came out i aint wanna buy it at all thought snoop is washed up, and burn out rapper.

but i saw on tv the 1st single G bedtime stories and really liked the funny horror theme video, than i saw the cd in a record store and saw Sticky Fingaz on it I have to bought!

after this 2 track i heard the ultimate hit b please and got faith in snoop again!

snoopafella and party with a dpg are my last 2 choose for the top 5 tracks.

but i really lik the dolomite intro, and skit! doin too much, in love with a thug and my heat goos boom are tight jams too!

They dropped the album with very little promotion.  Snoop was really at a down period cause he'd alienated his true West Coast fans with Da Game album and No Limit was startin to fade out.  So it was put up or shut up time for Snoop.  In a way it as like the moment of truth for the 2nd act of his career.

Album was a slow burner.  1st week sales were just off die hard fans, name recognition, and the few No Limit fans left who bought anything No Limit put out.  That was enough to nearly get him 200,000. 

Then later.. with hardly any fanfare they dropped "Bitch Please".   Then the rest was history as they say. 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: HighEyeCue on May 14, 2023, 04:17:57 AM
Come on homie we always agree on everything how can you not have "Heat Goes Boom" in top 5?

ha ha yeah you're right, definite banger...Snoop and Meech came through again after "Still A G Thang" the standout from the last album
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: Corleone Diamonds on May 14, 2023, 10:10:03 PM
ha ha yeah you're right, definite banger...Snoop and Meech came through again after "Still A G Thang" the standout from the last album

cant take the heat, woof, game of life, bussn roccs, ghetto symphony, gin & juice 2, handle yo bidness...

from both NL LPs, dont really count eastsidaz & last meal as NL imo.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: doggfather on May 15, 2023, 12:27:47 AM
cant take the heat, woof, game of life, bussn roccs, ghetto symphony, gin & juice 2, handle yo bidness...

from both NL LPs, dont really count eastsidaz & last meal as NL imo.


IMO is important, BUT eastsidaz NEVA was no limit.

last meal came out on no limit. that was the 3rd album in a 3 album deal.

these are facts.
not opinions...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: Okka on May 15, 2023, 03:35:48 AM
NL Top Dogg was dope, so was DGITBSNTBT
Last Meal & Eastsidaz First Album Was Last Good Snoop Projects.

OP: Too Many Songs To Name

You don't like "Tha Blue Carpet Treatment"?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 15, 2023, 03:51:20 AM
You don't like "Tha Blue Carpet Treatment"?

I didn't like any Snoop albums after Last Meal and the 2nd Eastsidaz album (other than Snoop Lion)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: Corleone Diamonds on May 18, 2023, 02:12:13 AM
I didn't like any Snoop albums after Last Meal and the 2nd Eastsidaz album (other than Snoop Lion)

Same
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: dnjp4life on May 18, 2023, 03:48:59 AM
My top 5 in no order would be:

- Buck 'Em
- Just Dippin
- Buss'n Rocks
- 20 Minutes
- Party With A D.P.G.

Honourable mention to Don't Tell because of the smoothness of Quik's production.

No surprise that these are most of the harder tracks on the album.  Like most Snoop albums it could have done with trimming down a bit, though it's not that any of the tracks I consider as excess are bad or anything, I still listen to them when the album is on.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: doggfather on May 18, 2023, 11:26:18 PM
his welcome to the chuuch and thats my work mixtape series was good.

so do the album with damn-funk
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: hrsmn_london on October 17, 2023, 02:41:32 PM
I've always enjoyed this one.

Even Quik is on there, right?

Definitely one or two tracks that could've been left off.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on October 21, 2023, 11:27:36 PM
I've always enjoyed this one.

Even Quik is on there, right?

Definitely one or two tracks that could've been left off.

I think it’s Snoop’s second best ever after Doggystyle.  But yeah—3 tracks I didn’t like but those were liked by other fans
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 22, 2023, 05:00:01 AM
I've always enjoyed this one.

Even Quik is on there, right?

Definitely one or two tracks that could've been left off.
as is the case with all Snoop albums except for Doggystyle
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: hrsmn_london on October 23, 2023, 01:29:44 PM
Doggfather is his best album. Snoop says majority of his fans agree.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: doggfather on October 23, 2023, 10:07:12 PM
Doggfather is his best album. Snoop says majority of his fans agree.

Word!
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on October 24, 2023, 03:12:28 PM
Doggfather is his best album. Snoop says majority of his fans agree.

That's laughable if snoop is really convinced that the majority of his fans like Doggfather better than Doggystyle.....and sad in a way too. 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on October 25, 2023, 10:26:59 PM
Doggfather is his best album. Snoop says majority of his fans agree.

Here we go again.. Anyone who says this, I always know that they weren't old enough or not really into hip-hop back in 93 - because anyone who truly experienced the Chronic, Doggystyle, Murder Was the Case version of Snoop in real time and remembers what a sensation he was in the mid-90's...

...and then how the game had gotten really intense by the fall of 96' with Pac being murdered and the whole coast was leaning on Snoop--anyone who really remembers the mood at that time the day Doggfather dropped knows it was a huge disappointment when it dropped. 

It was probably the most dramatic case of Sophmore jinx in music history.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 26, 2023, 04:47:58 AM
Doggfather is his best album. Snoop says majority of his fans agree.

I'm going to need receipts on this one
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on October 27, 2023, 02:12:45 PM
Here we go again.. Anyone who says this, I always know that they weren't old enough or not really into hip-hop back in 93 - because anyone who truly experienced the Chronic, Doggystyle, Murder Was the Case version of Snoop in real time and remembers what a sensation he was in the mid-90's...

...and then how the game had gotten really intense by the fall of 96' with Pac being murdered and the whole coast was leaning on Snoop--anyone who really remembers the mood at that time the day Doggfather dropped knows it was a huge disappointment when it dropped. 

It was probably the most dramatic case of Sophmore jinx in music history.

I can tell you firsthand, i was extremely disappointed.  It was nothing like what i was expecting.  Sounded nothing like Doggystyle first of all.  No Dre production.  No 2Pac guest spots.  Filled with a bunch of lesser-known acts at the time.  Groupie with Warren G and Tha Dogg Pound was the only song i was feeling when i first got the CD that i truly felt like was a good Doggystyle followup song. 

It has aged well as people like Tray Deee, Bad Azz, Techniec, Sam Sneed, Charlie Wilson are now household names but you have to remember, back in 96, they hadn't been in the limelight yet so alot of people had never heard of these guys.  We were expecting guest spots like Dre, Pac, Rage, Ice Cube, DJ Quik, Nate Dogg (more than 1 song), Dogg Pound (more than 1 song as a unit), etc. And instead we got, at the time, a bunch of nobodies.  And snoop switched to that quiet laid back flow and strayed far from the sampled G funk sound.  I skipped school to go to Best Buy to buy the CD and i listened to it once and threw it on my shelf and took me a long time to get back into it. 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on October 28, 2023, 06:25:42 AM
I can tell you firsthand, i was extremely disappointed.  It was nothing like what i was expecting.  Sounded nothing like Doggystyle first of all.  No Dre production.  No 2Pac guest spots.  Filled with a bunch of lesser-known acts at the time.  Groupie with Warren G and Tha Dogg Pound was the only song i was feeling when i first got the CD that i truly felt like was a good Doggystyle followup song. 

It has aged well as people like Tray Deee, Bad Azz, Techniec, Sam Sneed, Charlie Wilson are now household names but you have to remember, back in 96, they hadn't been in the limelight yet so alot of people had never heard of these guys.  We were expecting guest spots like Dre, Pac, Rage, Ice Cube, DJ Quik, Nate Dogg (more than 1 song), Dogg Pound (more than 1 song as a unit), etc. And instead we got, at the time, a bunch of nobodies.  And snoop switched to that quiet laid back flow and strayed far from the sampled G funk sound.  I skipped school to go to Best Buy to buy the CD and i listened to it once and threw it on my shelf and took me a long time to get back into it.

There you go homie... I can tell we are age mates, because I had the same experience.

It sounded nothing like Doggystyle.  We were expecting some hard shit and some bangers like Doggystyle.  I remember it being really soft.  Even then I loved LBC Crew cause of "Beware of my Crew" and Tray Dee on "21 Jumpstreet" so I was happy with the tracks like "Gold Rush" and "Wake Up" and "Blueberry".  To me, I thought "Blueberry" was the joint that sounded most like what I was expecting cause it sounded like some hard shit along the lines of what we'd been hearing on Dogg Food and All Eyez on Me. 

I think the shit that through me off was really the album was dominated by DJ Pooh and the nod to the music he grew up to like Charlie Wilson which obviously was way before my time and it ain't like my parents exposed me to that shit either.  So--though I love DJ Pooh and he's got bangers like "New York New York" the sound Snoop came with on Doggfather was soft and unexpected. 

If there was any debate at the time it really proved that Pac had truly dethroned Snoop and became the #1 artists in rap.  Though dead—he proved on 7 Day Theory he could totally flip the script with a new sound and new producers and still come hard and be a dominating force in the game.  Snoop tried to update his shit and come with a new style and it didnt' work.  I mean, maybe he was trying to be a visionary and wanted to come with something fresh--but it dropped one week after 7 Day Theory--and one week earlier we were blown away by shit like "Hail Mary" which sounded larger than life and then hit with "Snoop Upside Your Head" Doggfather a week later and it just didn't hit...

...I also remember not skipping school cause I was a freshman and didn't have a license yet but I paid a senoir kid I was friends with 20 bucks to skip out during lunch period and pick it up for me.  That night I remember the dread of reaching the last track which was that weak-ass Pac tribute that took little to no effort and I was just thinking to myself... that's it?? 

I literally went through 10 years of being lost in depression after that from 15-25 all thanks to Snoop failing me on Doggfather.  I needed that shit to be the man and be a mack again--music was my whole life and motivation for living then I couldn't function on that Master P/P Diddy/DMX/Jay-Z/ shit that took over the game
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: HighEyeCue on October 28, 2023, 09:12:36 AM
I too had similar experiences as Infinite and Soopafly DPGC about "Tha Doggfather"

most Snoop fans in that time period would agree that it was a major letdown...how it is viewed now does not change that fact for us

I do understand that for many others "Tha Doggfather" might have been their introduction to Snoop so their feelings are different
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 08, 2023, 01:44:49 AM
I too had similar experiences as Infinite and Soopafly DPGC about "Tha Doggfather"

most Snoop fans in that time period would agree that it was a major letdown...how it is viewed now does not change that fact for us

I do understand that for many others "Tha Doggfather" might have been their introduction to Snoop so their feelings are different

Yeah even my son says Doggfather is his favorite Snoop album.  It is really interesting how it was viewed later vs. the day it dropped.

The day it dropped I even remember MTV did a special on it that week talking to people in the streetz and it was all disappointment.


 
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: HighEyeCue on December 17, 2023, 08:02:22 AM
Yeah even my son says Doggfather is his favorite Snoop album.  It is really interesting how it was viewed later vs. the day it dropped.

The day it dropped I even remember MTV did a special on it that week talking to people in the streetz and it was all disappointment.


 

I remember when they did that...one dude was asked what his favorite track was and he said "Blueberry"

interesting in that Snoop doesn't even rap a verse on that track
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 17, 2023, 09:12:39 AM
I remember when they did that...one dude was asked what his favorite track was and he said "Blueberry"

interesting in that Snoop doesn't even rap a verse on that track

Bingo! 

...and MTV must've been doing pretty good reporting in those days because that's exactly the same song I would have said was my favorite on that day the album came out.  I remember I was 14 so my brother used to drive me to school so I used to copy the best songs onto cassette tape to listen on the way to school and the next morning after Doggfather came out that was the song we listened to on the way to school "Blueberry".  It had that hard, gangsta sound you expected from the Doggystyle album.

Really that song was probably orchestrated by Daz, LBC Crew, and Sam Sneed and I bet Snoop wasn't even on it.  It was for the LBC Crew album.  Then they just added it last minute to the Doggfather and had Snoop talk on the outro at the end.

And that's the best song on the album?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: shmosh on December 20, 2023, 04:29:13 AM
The funny thing about Tha Doggafather is it could've been so much better too. Tracks like Dogg Collar, Midnight Love and Street Life were all cut and cutting some of the shit to replace with those alone would've made it better
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: HighEyeCue on December 20, 2023, 08:05:20 AM
The funny thing about Tha Doggafather is it could've been so much better too. Tracks like Dogg Collar, Midnight Love and Street Life were all cut and cutting some of the shit to replace with those alone would've made it better

Midnight Love is classic 8)

it was worthy of coming out as a 2nd single...we did eventually get it the following year but it was a year too late
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: doggfather on December 20, 2023, 12:36:07 PM
and dont forget snoops upside ya head!
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg (24th Anniversary)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 20, 2023, 11:13:08 PM
The funny thing about Tha Doggafather is it could've been so much better too. Tracks like Dogg Collar, Midnight Love and Street Life were all cut and cutting some of the shit to replace with those alone would've made it better

Or even dip further into the LBC Crew "Haven't You Heard" stash and whatever else, Dogg Pound stash.. I mean he already did that on Doggfather you can tell several cuts were sort of taken from other projects.