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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: Sccit on August 08, 2023, 05:25:57 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cvr1Fc9rRbG/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Holy fucc man.. can you imagine?? Pac and Rage on that joint??
That’s still to this day one of the most underrated tracks in rap history, it should’ve been a smokers anthem played in weed spots all over.
That Aftermath Presents album was so damn far ahead of its time by light years—I think they just made Dre rush the release cause Busta was supposed to be on “Fame” and there were a few weak joints Dre said were just demos that could’ve been left off and replaced, but the Mel-Man, RBX, King T, Group Therapy, and Nationowl joints on there are so next level it went over most folks heads. I still bump this more than any of Dre’s solo albums
(Btw, edit, lol, I wrote “light years”, forgot I don’t believe in “light years” anymore, damn I’m promoting their space propaganda nonsense without even knowin, lol. There’s no such thing as light years and the concept is asinine to anyone who thinks for themselves)
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we do not know if it has same beat with rbx's. or do we?
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we do not know if it has same beat with rbx's. or do we?
It should be the same beat. Pac was offered a couple of Dre beats when he came in. Can't C Me was originally a Dogg Pound track.
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It should be the same beat. Pac was offered a couple of Dre beats when he came in. Can't C Me was originally a Dogg Pound track.
"According to Dr. Dre co-writer J-Flexx, this song was originally written by him, then Dre scrapped his vocals and wrote to it, but RBX heard the beat in the studio at Dre’s house and wanted it, so Dre gave RBX the beat. This song was written in 1996 and briefly reunited Dre with Chris “The Glove” Taylor. Three members of Dre’s “Soul Kitchen” 1996 Aftermath production team wrote this."
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cvr1Fc9rRbG/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
think of an album in 96 which is produced by Johnny J, Daz Dillinger and Dr. Dre.... also mixed by DJ Quik... it should be a classic.
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we do not know if it has same beat with rbx's. or do we?
yea.. it does
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"According to Dr. Dre co-writer J-Flexx, this song was originally written by him, then Dre scrapped his vocals and wrote to it, but RBX heard the beat in the studio at Dre’s house and wanted it, so Dre gave RBX the beat. This song was written in 1996 and briefly reunited Dre with Chris “The Glove” Taylor. Three members of Dre’s “Soul Kitchen” 1996 Aftermath production team wrote this."
dre used to rework tracks multiple times
so it was first for dre’s solo ala cali love .. then went to pac .. then eventually ended up with rbx
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wow…always loved that track…now knowing it could have been even better is crazy
It should be the same beat. Pac was offered a couple of Dre beats when he came in. Can't C Me was originally a Dogg Pound track.
man I love Tha Dogg Pound but they didn’t do that beat justice…Pac went HAM on that track
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dre used to rework tracks multiple times
so it was first for dre’s solo ala cali love .. then went to pac .. then eventually ended up with rbx
i still believe 2 songs have nothing to do with each other but you can ask RBX... he can confirm that i guess.
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i still believe 2 songs have nothing to do with each other but you can ask RBX... he can confirm that i guess.
lol yea ok another song called blunt time produced by dre from that era
:mjlol:
obviously i already discussed it wit x before posting homie
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lol yea ok another song called blunt time produced by dre from that era
:mjlol:
obviously i already discussed it wit x before posting homie
Does X have a copy of the song he could share with us?
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Does X have a copy of the song he could share with us?
no
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think of an album in 96 which is produced by Johnny J, Daz Dillinger and Dr. Dre.... also mixed by DJ Quik... it should be a classic.
So, All Eyez On Me then?
I can’t imagine 2Pac on the beat to Blunt Time, it sounds like it would be too slow for him. Maybe I’m wrong, either way I’d love to hear his version of it. Hopefully it leaks one day.
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"According to Dr. Dre co-writer J-Flexx, this song was originally written by him, then Dre scrapped his vocals and wrote to it, but RBX heard the beat in the studio at Dre’s house and wanted it, so Dre gave RBX the beat. This song was written in 1996 and briefly reunited Dre with Chris “The Glove” Taylor. Three members of Dre’s “Soul Kitchen” 1996 Aftermath production team wrote this."
Alright this is gettin weird.. because yeah, I looked into it and J-Flexx did this joint with Dre the same day that they did "California Love". What a great day in rap history that day in the studio.
But then also J-Flexx did "Been There Done That" for Dre. But that also had to be at Death Row because Flex stayed with Death Row and didn't leave when Dre left. So now you gotta wonder what other joints from Aftermath Presents were already done by Dre before leaving. So what the fucc did he do over at Aftermath?
So now it's changing the way I look at the Aftermath Presents album. It's starting to look more like prime Death Row heat that Dre had stashed, and then when he left Death Row he took the stash to Aftermath and didn't do much else with it.
So... is the dopeness on Aftermath Presents really just a product of how great Death Row was and not an indication of anything that followed at Aftermath? What if all the dope shit was Death Row Dre and the weak shit was Aftermath Dre?
...anyway, it's just interesting because the Aftermath Presents album was presented like it was some fresh start and new era for Dre denouncing gangsta rap and moving on to Death Row but now it seems more like that album was just a product of Prime Death Row era.
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"According to Dr. Dre co-writer J-Flexx, this song was originally written by him, then Dre scrapped his vocals and wrote to it, but RBX heard the beat in the studio at Dre’s house and wanted it, so Dre gave RBX the beat. This song was written in 1996 and briefly reunited Dre with Chris “The Glove” Taylor. Three members of Dre’s “Soul Kitchen” 1996 Aftermath production team wrote this."
what was the soul kitchen
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wow…always loved that track…now knowing it could have been even better is crazy
man I love Tha Dogg Pound but they didn’t do that beat justice…Pac went HAM on that track
I thought DPG did fine with it, I mean I could hear it being a lead single when I hear the DPG version it almost comes off like "Let's Play House". Obviously Pac was just on another level and took it to a level nobody else could, but a finished and polished DPG version could've looked nice in a video.
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So, All Eyez On Me then?
I can’t imagine 2Pac on the beat to Blunt Time, it sounds like it would be too slow for him. Maybe I’m wrong, either way I’d love to hear his version of it. Hopefully it leaks one day.
Can you imagine actually hearing like this Dre version of "Blunt Time" or even better hearing a Pac and Method Man version of "Blunt Time".
when you talk about leaked, unfinished tracks, this would be one of the best ever. Right up there with Dre and Royce "The Throne is Mine" or "Topless" or 2pac's o.g "Play Your Cards Right", Eminem's "Our House" with Fred Durst
lol this sounds almost A.I. but supposedly this is Dre's part on "Topless" starts with "1996, I left it all behind...
https://youtu.be/PZ-S9PjNYrw
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Alright this is gettin weird.. because yeah, I looked into it and J-Flexx did this joint with Dre the same day that they did "California Love". What a great day in rap history that day in the studio.
But then also J-Flexx did "Been There Done That" for Dre. But that also had to be at Death Row because Flex stayed with Death Row and didn't leave when Dre left. So now you gotta wonder what other joints from Aftermath Presents were already done by Dre before leaving. So what the fucc did he do over at Aftermath?
So now it's changing the way I look at the Aftermath Presents album. It's starting to look more like prime Death Row heat that Dre had stashed, and then when he left Death Row he took the stash to Aftermath and didn't do much else with it.
So... is the dopeness on Aftermath Presents really just a product of how great Death Row was and not an indication of anything that followed at Aftermath? What if all the dope shit was Death Row Dre and the weak shit was Aftermath Dre?
...anyway, it's just interesting because the Aftermath Presents album was presented like it was some fresh start and new era for Dre denouncing gangsta rap and moving on to Death Row but now it seems more like that album was just a product of Prime Death Row era.
only the beat was from death row era
rbx raps was done under aftermath watch
same with pretty much the entire aftermath presents album
not sure about been there done that tho.. was it recorded during death row?
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So, All Eyez On Me then?
I can’t imagine 2Pac on the beat to Blunt Time, it sounds like it would be too slow for him. Maybe I’m wrong, either way I’d love to hear his version of it. Hopefully it leaks one day.
pac was just fine on slow beats
ala i ain’t mad at ya
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pac was just fine on slow beats
ala i ain’t mad at ya
not sure exactly though homie, because "Blunt Time" is more like a hype banger in spite of been a smooth track---while "I Ain't Mad At Ya" is more like heartfelt joint like "Dear Mama" which Pac had many great ones like that like "Can You Get Away", "It Ain't Easy being Me" and so many more.
I think what the O.G. post meant is can Pac make a hype track the way RBX did over a smoothed out beat.
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not sure exactly though homie, because "Blunt Time" is more like a hype banger in spite of been a smooth track---while "I Ain't Mad At Ya" is more like heartfelt joint like "Dear Mama" which Pac had many great ones like that like "Can You Get Away", "It Ain't Easy being Me" and so many more.
I think what the O.G. post meant is can Pac make a hype track the way RBX did over a smoothed out beat.
well blunt time is a weed song
here’s somewhat of a weed song he did on a similar tempo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F6DSPLNKezk
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well blunt time is a weed song
here’s somewhat of a weed song he did on a similar tempo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F6DSPLNKezk
Ahh come on cuzz “Krazy” is another “I Ain’t Mad At Ya” or “Lord Knows” type track I even remember crying to it and wanting to legit commit suicide listening to it at 16
We talking about hype tracks
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lol yea ok another song called blunt time produced by dre from that era
:mjlol:
obviously i already discussed it wit x before posting homie
ok then, discussion is over :D
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Check it out this st8 from the horses mouth J-Flexx. Dre’s lyrics went like this for “Blunt Time”. Same hook cause Roger was there doing this song and doing “California Love” both created that day in o.g form…
Dre’s verse:
“Rolling in a lotus /
with soul like otis// reddin
/ i end a rappers career like armaggedon/“
The rest he forgot
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Ahh come on cuzz “Krazy” is another “I Ain’t Mad At Ya” or “Lord Knows” type track I even remember crying to it and wanting to legit commit suicide listening to it at 16
We talking about hype tracks
why does blunt time need to be a hype track? pac coulda easily taken that and made it some laid back type stuff wit the slow flow
u tellin me u can’t picture pac on that beat?
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why does blunt time need to be a hype track? pac coulda easily taken that and made it some laid back type stuff wit the slow flow
u tellin me u can’t picture pac on that beat?
Well the hook was already there… Pac woulda spit some shit like
“Blunt time and I’m up and Adam
Bustin at these suckaz bullets scattering
They sayin Pac is a maad man
But I ain’t listening
Faked my death and became a legend
makeveli enterin
Exit see my enemies at the crossroads
Budsmokers Only just like Bone
When I die tell the Outlawz smoke my ashes
Tell my bitchez it’s still on
Full of that thug passion !!!”
Then Meth comes in like
“Pac hit me up bat signal that’s the WU
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Nah I can’t write for Meth
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Well the hook was already there… Pac woulda spit some shit like
“Blunt time and I’m up and Adam
Bustin at these suckaz bullets scattering
They sayin Pac is a maad man
But I ain’t listening
Faked my death and became a legend
makeveli enterin
Exit see my enemies at the crossroads
Budsmokers Only just like Bone
When I die tell the Outlawz smoke my ashes
Tell my bitchez it’s still on
Full of that thug passion !!!”
Then Meth comes in like
“Pac hit me up bat signal that’s the WU
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Nah I can’t write for Meth
:jayz:
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Who’s that homie at the forum that does the AI??
We need an AI Pac “Blunt Time” quick
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Who’s that homie at the forum that does the AI??
We need an AI Pac “Blunt Time” quick
no we don't. please stop this.
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I thought DPG did fine with it, I mean I could hear it being a lead single when I hear the DPG version it almost comes off like "Let's Play House". Obviously Pac was just on another level and took it to a level nobody else could, but a finished and polished DPG version could've looked nice in a video.
yeah I guess first hearing it years after I got used to the Pac version where he just obliterates the beat with his energy
but you are right the Dogg Pound version is not a bad track at all
Who’s that homie at the forum that does the AI??
We need an AI Pac “Blunt Time” quick
would love to hear it as well
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We need an AI Pac “Blunt Time” quick
I don't do AI music, but I put the following into Bing AI and it gave me this:
Write a 16-bar rap verse by 2Pac about smoking featuring a guest verse by Method Man that it is in time with RBX's "Blunt Time" from The Aftermath LP
2PAC
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the 2Pac, the rap legend, the outlaw
Coming through with the blunt in my mouth, I'm raw
I don't give a fuck about the law or the cops
I just do what I do 'cause I'm a boss
I'm a rap rebel, a West Coast icon
I got the skills to make you feel and make you cry, son
I spit truth like a prophet, I'm a martyr for the cause
I'm the one who gave you classics like Me Against The World and All Eyez On Me
I'm smoking blunts with Snoop Dogg, we're the ultimate duo
We make hits like 2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted and California Love, you know
We're on top of the game, we're on top of the charts
We're on top of your hearts, we're on top of the rap art
Blunt time-pull out your philly
Sip a glass of 'gnac, reload your nine milli
Dancin', puffin', sippin' or set trippin'
Dimes keep on flippin' flippin'
Method Man
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the M-E-T-H-O-D Man
Coming through with the blunt in my hand
I don't give a damn about the law or the plan
I just do what I do 'cause I can
I'm a rap icon, a Staten Island phenom
I got the skills to pay the bills and then some
I spit fire like a dragon, I'm a legend in the making
I'm the one who got you hooked on the Wu-Tang slang
I'm smoking blunts with Redman, we're the ultimate duo
We make hits like How High and Da Rockwilder, you know
We're on top of the game, we're on top of the world
We're on top of your girl, we're on top of the rap world
Blunt time-pull out your philly
Sip a glass of 'gnac, reload your nine milli
Dancin', puffin', sippin' or set trippin'
Dimes keep on flippin' flippin'
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I don't do AI music, but I put the following into Bing AI and it gave me this:
Write a 16-bar rap verse by 2Pac about smoking featuring a guest verse by Method Man that it is in time with RBX's "Blunt Time" from The Aftermath LP
2PAC
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the 2Pac, the rap legend, the outlaw
Coming through with the blunt in my mouth, I'm raw
I don't give a fuck about the law or the cops
I just do what I do 'cause I'm a boss
I'm a rap rebel, a West Coast icon
I got the skills to make you feel and make you cry, son
I spit truth like a prophet, I'm a martyr for the cause
I'm the one who gave you classics like Me Against The World and All Eyez On Me
I'm smoking blunts with Snoop Dogg, we're the ultimate duo
We make hits like 2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted and California Love, you know
We're on top of the game, we're on top of the charts
We're on top of your hearts, we're on top of the rap art
Blunt time-pull out your philly
Sip a glass of 'gnac, reload your nine milli
Dancin', puffin', sippin' or set trippin'
Dimes keep on flippin' flippin'
Method Man
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the M-E-T-H-O-D Man
Coming through with the blunt in my hand
I don't give a damn about the law or the plan
I just do what I do 'cause I can
I'm a rap icon, a Staten Island phenom
I got the skills to pay the bills and then some
I spit fire like a dragon, I'm a legend in the making
I'm the one who got you hooked on the Wu-Tang slang
I'm smoking blunts with Redman, we're the ultimate duo
We make hits like How High and Da Rockwilder, you know
We're on top of the game, we're on top of the world
We're on top of your girl, we're on top of the rap world
Blunt time-pull out your philly
Sip a glass of 'gnac, reload your nine milli
Dancin', puffin', sippin' or set trippin'
Dimes keep on flippin' flippin'
well I don't think AI is going to take over any time soon because even my Pac lyrics were better than that shit
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what was the soul kitchen
If you peep Dr. Dre Presents The Aftermath comp booklet, you'll see this on a page.
(https://coverartarchive.org/release/e4059069-57b5-4908-ac8e-7353e245e767/20790144221.jpg)
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Pac always made these tracklists and a lot of the songs never ended up being recorded. Method Man never recorded his verse. Pretty sure Rage did though 'cause she posted about the song years ago on her IG. No mention of Method Man though.
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If you peep Dr. Dre Presents The Aftermath comp booklet, you'll see this on a page.
(https://coverartarchive.org/release/e4059069-57b5-4908-ac8e-7353e245e767/20790144221.jpg)
yeah man summer of 2001 I was moving apartments and got all my cd cases stolen (they thought the cd's were inside). Still depressed about that shit.
...but thanks for postin, hadn't seen the inside of this in a long time, and I like the quote from Nationowl it sounds dope (though I'm all about the past, but then again in 96' we were all about the future cause the future seemed dope back then, we didn't know Bill Gates would lock us all down put masks on our faces and try to convert humans to AI)