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With two singles out, we now know their placement on the tracklist and the total number of songs.
The Apple Music “The Death of Slim Shady” pre-save page shows a tracklist and an empty cover art holder.
This means that the scribbles, playing on the classic “The Slim Shady LP” lettering, which we saw in the album teaser, are not confirmed as the official “The Death of Slim Shady” cover art.
What is confirmed now is the length of the tracklist. The new album has 19 songs. The Apple Music pre-view says 20, but this only means that they included the “Houdini” music video on the list.
Two of those 19 tracks have already been released and have taken their place on the list: “Houdini” is 11, and “Tobey” is 17.
The album is LONG, which should not surprise us as Marshall took over four years between projects and clearly has a lot to say.
The wait is almost over. “The Death of Slim Shady” will be released next Friday, July 12.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=X0HIrS6kUYI (https://youtube.com/watch?v=X0HIrS6kUYI)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CanCZktm0TQ (https://youtube.com/watch?v=CanCZktm0TQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaK9Wi5ho0o
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interesting
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it doesnt make sense to me that he goes with murder theme again after MTBMB.
but anyway, new eminem album! let's chill!
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it doesnt make sense to me that he goes with murder theme again after MTBMB.
but anyway, new eminem album! let's chill!
yeah I was trying to be positive so the best thing I could come up with was "interesting". I realized pretty much all my posts these days are the same. Can be summed up in a few sentences.
--"I don't listen to any new music they are all sell-outs now, praise the golden age era of rap life was amazing until Pac was murdered, Convid was a hoax and the Earth is flat."
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interesting
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I guess he iaa going to apologaise to a lot of people
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Every Em release I have the same questions: Did ICU/Dre produce or exec produce most or all of it? Who are the producers on this? As for content, at least we can count on less corny single choices - no lame We Made You and bs like that anymore
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Dre's heard the album, he's going to add his lil touches...maybe even a song or two.
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Looking forward to it, judging by the title it will quite probably be Eminem's last album.
Coming in summer apparently, I always tend to associate Eminem's music with the darker months, which is when he normally drops albums, so will be weird riding around listening to this in the summer time.
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interesting
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unfortunately what we really need is slim shady back
because hippity hop eminem is cool but not quite the same
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unfortunately what we really need is slim shady back
because hippity hop eminem is cool but not quite the same
he can't.. because there is a cancel culture now.. and the me-too movement.. and the gay, LBQT, trans agenda etc. And unfortunately Eminem has of course aligned himself with the Democratic Leftist wackjobs that are destroying America these days and forced society into lockdown for 2 years and made us wear masks and take boosters, etc.
So the current social climate will not allow him to be Slim Shady anymore. He can get away with some stuff like the devil worshipping symbolism and rapping about murder and shit like that and attacking Donald Trump -- those topics have been approved by the globalist left in power.
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Looking forward to it, judging by the title it will quite probably be Eminem's last album.
Coming in summer apparently, I always tend to associate Eminem's music with the darker months, which is when he normally drops albums, so will be weird riding around listening to this in the summer time.
lol @ last album
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Em needs to be poppin pills again for Slim Shady to come back, that's not happening.
I miss those jokey sound effects he used to do in the backgrounds of his raps.
But yeah, stiff robotic gibberish mumblin jumblin Em aint it.
Eminem celebrates 16 years of sobriety by showing off his new chip
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a producer leaked a few things about the album
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/1ck83t5/producer_who_worked_with_eminem_had_his_private/
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Another Em and Snoop song.
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Luis Resto, a long-time collaborator of Eminem's, says the American rapper's anticipated new album will have him going back to his hard-hitting roots.
Eminem's long-time collaborator Luis Resto on working with hip-hop's biggest names
The American musician has worked with the rapper for more than 20 years
Speaking to The National after his performance at Mutek.AE music and design festival last week in Dubai, the American pianist says he has been contributing sporadically to Eminem’s new album since 2021.
Eminem, real name Marshall Mathers, has announced The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grace) will be released this year and Resto says seasoned fans will savour the new songs.
“I do have a notion of things judging by what I have seen and heard across the last three years and if I have to give you a forecast, you are going to hear a whole nod back to some of his original creative areas,” Resto, 62, tells The National.
“He is talking about where he came from and where he is now. So it is really a hodgepodge musically of ideas and influences.”
Resto's prediction is in line with the reported theme of the album, which follows the life and demise of Eminem's controversial alter-ego Slim Shady.
Resto's contribution continues his long-standing relationship with the rapper, stemming back to 2000's The Marshall Mathers LP. Although that record had him contributing minimally, it was from 2002's follow up The Eminem Show that Resto scored song-writing credits on each of Eminem's album and associated soundtracks.
The work includes co-writing and producing chart-topping hits such as 2004's Toy Soldiers, 2010's Grammy Award-winning Not Afraid and 2020’s Godzilla.
The track record also includes the wildly successful 2002 track Lose Yourself from 8 Mile, a film that starred Eminem. The song earned the duo, alongside co-producer and writer Jeff Bass, an Oscar for Best Original Song in 2003.
Resto recalls writing the dramatic string section when recording the track in a makeshift studio on the film set in Detroit.
"Marshall led that session and I remember he kept saying how the song felt too rock 'n' roll and he wanted us to really rebuild the song and take it in a different direction," he says. "And this is where I got to use my orchestral chops and added piano, French horns, flutes and strings.”
As someone classically trained and steeped in the jazz world, Resto says his collaboration with hip-hop artists such as Eminem, 50 Cent and Jay Z is his most rewarding.
"I love the hip-hip ethos in general because a lot of it is based on using your ear and feeling your way through songs," he says.
"Now I personally have knowledge of music theory and I am well-versed on how it all works but working with people like Eminem and 50 Cent is a much more open session. It's not based on major or minor chords or what is correct or not. It's based on whether it sounds dope or not."
From working on 50 Cent's blockbuster 2003 debut album Get Rich or Die Tryin' to playing the synth lines on Akon's 2006 hit Smack That, Resto says hip-hop artists often use him as a sounding board for ideas.
"Sometimes we are in the studio and they would look at us and wonder if what they are doing is right," he says. "And from my experience, I would tell them that it depends on what context you are asking me.
"If you are asking me theoretically, then I could say that this is not the right note and then what happens is the minute we change it to the correct note, the song is not as cool as it sounds. We often change it back again because they knew what they wanted in the first place.”
The Mutek.AE performance marks a rare international outing for Resto. If he is not recording with other artists across the US, he can be found in Detroit's Feeder Loft Records, a studio he co-owns with Iranian-American producer Salar Ansari. It is with Ansari's group that Resto made his Dubai debut.
As for touring on the road again as part of Eminem’s live backing band, he says those days are long behind him.
"I went out on the road with him around 2011 and quickly realised that he needed a more youthful culture projected on stage," he says. "I remember at that time I always wore my hair long and I went grey so early in life that I was done dyeing it.
"So when one of the roadies asked me if I was going to dye it, I understood the band really needed to look for somebody different. There was absolutely no offence taken because my relationship with Eminem continued and the work flowed.”
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I'll take a new Em album over this boring new shit any day. Bring it on.
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I'll give it a chance. But I'd like to see him go back to his MMLP2 style where he was focused on making great songs. In that era he made "Guts Over Fear" which I think is his most under-rated song of the second half of his career (post Encore).
I'm not into the new stuff he's doing where he's like "let me prove how great I am by showing everyone how fast I can rhyme, how many rhymes I can fit into each bars, how many metaphors, homonyms, and double entendres I can fit in." Because ultimately if i don't care about what the rapper is actually saying it won't be worth the listen.
Like "Rap God" is a good example. It was extremely impressive what he did on that song. And it was worth doing for a track to prove his dominance over everyone else. But we don't need a whole album of that. He balanced it out with songs like "Legacy" and "Stronger Than I Was". So MMLP2 I felt was the perfect balance.
And also his lefty politics have fucced this guy up. How is he going to be a leftist rapping about how he hates Trump and "wear your damn mask" when the far left is all about promoting homosexuals, feminism, and cancel culture. So Eminem gets a pass because he promoted far left agendas like the "masks" and Trump hate and their race agenda
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New single "Houdini" coming out on 31st of may this friday.
i believe this time we are going to get a funny eminem single with a funny music video that we were used to back in the day.
https://www.instagram.com/eminem/p/C7iLZ35NrQt/
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New single "Houdini" coming out on 31st of may this friday.
i believe this time we are going to get a funny eminem single with a funny music video that we were used to back in the day.
https://www.instagram.com/eminem/p/C7iLZ35NrQt/
Yea i guess. Back to the original shady goofy stuff.
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Sounds like Dre and his team on the production
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Sounds like Dre and his team on the production
Naah, the little snippet sounds like a classic Eminem, Luis resto type of shit.
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SHADY'S BACK! I LOVED IT.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=22tVWwmTie8?si=Q7EL5jdpo4tVuUbH (https://youtube.com/watch?v=22tVWwmTie8?si=Q7EL5jdpo4tVuUbH)
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Video is jokes :D
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nostalgic as phuck!
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He just tweaked "Without Me" song and video. He said like "What would the old slim shady say, he would say that this shit is gay". Then he rapped something about cancel culture and gender but I didn't really catch it, maybe I'll go back and listen, or not. He has a funny line about hitting a kid with a participation trophy. Some of it is okay.
This guy is a big leftist always talking shit on Trump even told people to "wear your damn mask" in 2020—and now he's complaining about lefty politics??
And I called it with my recent post about Eminem cross dressing in everyone of his lead singles from "My Name Is" up until "Not Afraid" (Even in the D12 singles) was when he finally stopped. Well, in this video he holds a photo of him cross dressing and says "I'll probably get shit for that."
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Damn I heard alchemist had a hand in production and get amped this is the worst shit I’ve heard from alchemist. He just dropped a dope ass album with hitboy and big-hit and Kendrick’s meet the grahams (which is hard not to think of Em and stan)
And we get this wack ass remake of without me from the last time Eminem dropped a album worth listening to he ruined Dre tracks for me and now if this is really alchemist he ruined him for me too.
Shit is trash like he is the biggest artist in the world damn near he don’t need these stupid singles any more … he has wasted plenty of Dre tracks for beats headphone money why now? What sales does he need? Its 2024 u made it bro
Drop a classic !!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22tVWwmTie8
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EM AND LUIS produced the beat. not alchemist.
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Fire.
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Damn I heard alchemist had a hand in production and get amped this is the worst shit I’ve heard from alchemist. He just dropped a dope ass album with hitboy and big-hit and Kendrick’s meet the grahams (which is hard not to think of Em and stan)
And we get this wack ass remake of without me from the last time Eminem dropped a album worth listening to he ruined Dre tracks for me and now if this is really alchemist he ruined him for me too.
Shit is trash like he is the biggest artist in the world damn near he don’t need these stupid singles any more … he has wasted plenty of Dre tracks for beats headphone money why now? What sales does he need? Its 2024 u made it bro
Drop a classic !!
was supposed to be nostalgic throwback to mmlp and eminem show singles
think he did a good job replicating that time, for me at least. video cool too - funny cameos. i fw this - for sure won't be favorite joint on the album but i'm not mad. not like he gave us Just Lose It or We Made You
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Could be Eminem’s biggest song in many years…
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Song is dope.
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the production and chorus is vintage Eminem
unfortunately he’s still got traces of that hippity hop shit in the verses … coulda been better witout
but solid overall
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I think it’s the best Em we’ve gotten since Relapse. I’m feeling it.
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the production and chorus is vintage Eminem
unfortunately he’s still got traces of that hippity hop shit in the verses … coulda been better witout
but solid overall
hippity hop shit?? What's that supposed to mean. You mean like a targeted single, or a contrived single? Or just anything that isn't dark and brooding? Was the original "Without Me" too hippity hop?
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I think it’s the best Em we’ve gotten since Relapse. I’m feeling it.
Dogg you are trippin out... This shit isn't even as good as "Bezerk" was. It's not as dope as "Monster" was. "Walk on Water" was better, "Rap God" was a lot better. "Love the Way You Lie" made history. It's not even close to "Not Afraid" or "Fast Lane". Not in the same Universe as "Guts Over Fear" and I'm just listing singles that are in the same category as this song. But if I start listing tracks that weren't singles I'd have to list like half of the MMLP2 album...
"Groundhog Day"
"Legacy"
"Stronger Than I Was"
etc
what about
"Welcome 2 Hell"
"Catipillar"
"Living Proof"
Come on Dogg seriously, RELAPSE??? Dogg, I'm not a big fan of Eminem's career post 8-Mile he's never been quite the same—because how could he be hungry when he achieved everything after that—but he's still had a lot of shit better than this song.
And I'm not even saying this new one is bad.
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Vintage eminem. And this is generational. Now my kids ask me about eminem. This is genious marketing right there.
I was thinking that he is going to be apologiseing, but its getting worse ;D. Evem hes kids aint safe no more.
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This is nostalgic - not a great song by any means, average in fact but it’s extremely nostalgic and does sound like a real Eminem first single - almost reminds me of why we all hated Eminem first singles at one stage past real slim shady apart from lose yourself - I can imagine this blowing up for a while and then dying down due to nostalgia but not being a very good song. This aint even close to fucking with joints like euphoria or not like us. However it has huge nostalgic value and it’s a nice reminder of his better days. He hasn’t released an album worth listening top to bottom since Eminem show so maybe he got something this time. Dre involved too supposedly.
On a side note if you check his IG and the comments - you can see how embarrassing his fan base is/has become and the demographics of it real quick. They don’t know shit about hiphop
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On a side note if you check his IG and the comments - you can see how embarrassing his fan base is/has become and the demographics of it real quick. They don’t know shit about hiphop
Yeah man it’s changed totally—and doesn’t make sense like before.
One of the great things about being an Eminem fan back in the day was the responses and feedback. So basically he’d put out Infinite—everyone said it’s like he’s trying to sound like Nas or AZ so then he puts out SlimShadyEP/LP. Then everyone responds and he has both fame and haters and also controversy and he responds to all of it in MMLP addresses everything.
Then Eminem Show kind of fell out of the sky I don’t know how he pulled that one out of his ass because by that time all the haters had became fans and the controversy had all died down and then he still came with a flawless album and had more to tell.
…then you have the periods where he was responding to the Source or XXL—well you really don’t have any publication these days that represents the voice of the hiphop community all that shit has changed
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hippity hop shit?? What's that supposed to mean. You mean like a targeted single, or a contrived single? Or just anything that isn't dark and brooding? Was the original "Without Me" too hippity hop?
"Rappers Delight" type style
all those lead singles were cut from the same cloth...even though they were dope
I always liked Ems lead singles but it was the other joints on the album that I preferred
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"Rappers Delight" type style
all those lead singles were cut from the same cloth...even though they were dope
I always liked Ems lead singles but it was the other joints on the album that I preferred
Not every song is supposed to be dark and brooding and screaming his head off, or trying to prove how fast he can rap and how many rhymes and multis he can fit into each bar, then every song would be like "Rap God" or like "Way I Am".
Nothing wrong with having a lead single that's a bit more of a simple format. "Without Me", "My Name Is", and "Real Slim Shady" are all great songs and great lead singles. I wouldn't disparage them by calling them hippityhop
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Not every song is supposed to be dark and brooding and screaming his head off, or trying to prove how fast he can rap and how many rhymes and multis he can fit into each bar, then every song would be like "Rap God" or like "Way I Am".
Nothing wrong with having a lead single that's a bit more of a simple format. "Without Me", "My Name Is", and "Real Slim Shady" are all great songs and great lead singles. I wouldn't disparage them by calling them hippityhop
yeah I don't know if Sccit meant it in a disparaging way...he could explain it better
as for me yeah those lead singles were very dope but because of their commercial aspect they were played to death everywhere you went that eventually I got a little tired of them
I'm more of an album listener anyway I like to just vibe to the whole project
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This is nostalgic - not a great song by any means, average in fact but it’s extremely nostalgic and does sound like a real Eminem first single - almost reminds me of why we all hated Eminem first singles at one stage past real slim shady apart from lose yourself - I can imagine this blowing up for a while and then dying down due to nostalgia but not being a very good song. This aint even close to fucking with joints like euphoria or not like us. However it has huge nostalgic value and it’s a nice reminder of his better days. He hasn’t released an album worth listening top to bottom since Eminem show so maybe he got something this time. Dre involved too supposedly.
On a side note if you check his IG and the comments - you can see how embarrassing his fan base is/has become and the demographics of it real quick. They don’t know shit about hiphop
Yeah I noticed a lot of his new fans are more familiar with Em post Relapse. It was around Recovery/ MMLP2 when he started rapping in his new style. Like sccit said there’s hints of that in the new single but he’s clearly striving for the old em and we get hints of it when he does that layered harmonizing briefly in verse 2 I think. And the chorus. I think Em still has potent for that vintage sound if Dre is involved
Also it seems like Em hijacked the missionary album with his and Dre has been very supportive and involved with Em album. Ever since Dre announced the Em album missionary was over
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hippity hop shit?? What's that supposed to mean. You mean like a targeted single, or a contrived single? Or just anything that isn't dark and brooding? Was the original "Without Me" too hippity hop?
hippity hop = trying hard to show how lyrical he can be, fitting in as many rhymes as possible in each bar, sacrificing the overall punch and meaning for display of technical skills
basically what em has been doing for the past decade or so
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hippity hop = trying hard to show how lyrical he can be, fitting in as many rhymes as possible in each bar, sacrificing the overall punch and meaning for display of technical skills
basically what em has been doing for the past decade or so
in that case then I agree. See, higheyecue and I thought you meant something else.
Yeah... I thought his format on MMLP2 was good. Because he had a song like Rap God where he did what you call "hippityhop" by fitting as many rhymes in each bar, showing how fast he could rap.
But then he had other songs like "Legacy" or "Stronger than I Was" where the goal was just to make a great song, not trying to outdo another rapper lyrically or to gain credibility with headz in some sort of Top 5 MC's all time argument.
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in that case then I agree. See, higheyecue and I thought you meant something else.
Yeah... I thought his format on MMLP2 was good. Because he had a song like Rap God where he did what you call "hippityhop" by fitting as many rhymes in each bar, showing how fast he could rap.
But then he had other songs like "Legacy" or "Stronger than I Was" where the goal was just to make a great song, not trying to outdo another rapper lyrically or to gain credibility with headz in some sort of Top 5 MC's all time argument.
the best song on mmlp2 was brainless
which is better than this new joint
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the best song on mmlp2 was brainless
which is better than this new joint
No argument there, "Brainless" was spectacular. Almost like an update of "Brain Damage" that actually improved on the original. Unlike this track that is not even half of "Without Me."
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What do you all think was Ems best song in the last 20 years? (post Encore)
my pick would be a little surprising
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgT1AidzRWM
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What do you all think was Ems best song in the last 20 years? (post Encore)
my pick would be a little surprising
^^thing is homie that "Beautiful" is really technically the last song of that era for Em. Dogg is kind of wrong in saying Relapse, because actually he was using some weird accent and changed his style for Relapse but Eminem said "Beautiful" was like and old song and I think it was his last with the Bass Brothers who were such an intrical part of his career and defining Eminem's sound in his prime from SSEP up thru 8 Mile
I keep saying it again and again but this track gets no love on here—it was a single and it’s the same kind of track like “Lose Yourself” or “Beautiful” or “Not Afraid” or “8 Mile Rd”, “Legacy”—his best since Proof died is…
“Guts Over Fear”
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Its a catchy banger. Goofy as fuck. Updated slim
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What do you all think was Ems best song in the last 20 years? (post Encore)
my pick would be a little surprising
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgT1AidzRWM
if we look at the charts its something else for example "Love the way you lie", but to me personally it is "Lucky You" or "Never Love Again".
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^^thing is homie that "Beautiful" is really technically the last song of that era for Em. Dogg is kind of wrong in saying Relapse, because actually he was using some weird accent and changed his style for Relapse but Eminem said "Beautiful" was like and old song and I think it was his last with the Bass Brothers who were such an intrical part of his career and defining Eminem's sound in his prime from SSEP up thru 8 Mile
I keep saying it again and again but this track gets no love on here—it was a single and it’s the same kind of track like “Lose Yourself” or “Beautiful” or “Not Afraid” or “8 Mile Rd”, “Legacy”—his best since Proof died is…
“Guts Over Fear”
yeah you are correct it is an older track
sounds nothing like the stuff Em was doing on Relapse
the thing about that album though is that I loved Dres production on it but I wonder if those beats were older as well
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The best Eminem track of recent times to me is The Ringer from Kamikaze - just an exceptional display of lyrical prowess, rhyme schemes flow, breath control etc. If I was a rapper I would study that track and hope to be half as good as that.
This new one, Houdini, is pretty good, a great way to bridge the old and new fans, especially with the accompanying video. I'm not overly enthusiastic about it, but I know the album will come with other tracks that I'll enjoy a lot more.
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Guess who’s back? How Eminem is storming to the top of the charts again
His new song Houdini is set to be the fastest-selling single of the year, eclipsing even Taylor Swift – despite being ignored by rap fans and radio stations alike
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Houdini. Reviews were lukewarm to woeful. “Eminem loses the magic,” ran the headline in the New York Times, while website Stereogum went for the more straightforward “Eminem’s New Song ‘Houdini’ Is Really, Really Bad”, criticising everything from the “stilted” rapping to a lyrical joke about the incident when Megan Thee Stallion was shot in the foot by her fellow rapper Tory Lanez.
The public’s response was quite the opposite. A week on, it is the most-streamed song in the UK and guaranteed to become Eminem’s 11th UK No 1. It is both his fastest-selling single in 22 years, and on track to become the UK’s fastest-selling single of the year by anyone, including Taylor Swift.
Regardless of your views on the single’s quality, it’s easy to see why Houdini has been a hit. It is very commercial, based around an immediately recognisable sample from Steve Miller Band’s Abracadabra. And it plays to an ongoing vogue for early 00s musical nostalgia that has found its expression in the resurgent popularity of pop-punk and a rise in rap singles borrowing from the era’s pop and R&B hits: more than anything Eminem has released in recent years, Houdini harks back to his early days.
It heavily references his 2002 hit Without Me, while its video features 50 Cent, who was catapulted to huge sales, with the help of Eminem’s patronage, back in 2003. It precedes an album that mentions his notorious alter ego in its title – The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce), due later in the summer – and it reverts back to the old Eminem formula of making queasy, cartoonish, controversy-provoking jokes, following a period in which the rapper seemed more interested in fulminating at the latterday state of hip-hop (as on 2018’s Kamikaze) or unleashing the deeply improbable concept of a woke Slim Shady. (In 2016 and 2017, he released a string of anti-Trump tracks that took in the subjects of immigration, gun control and white supremacy.)
Moreover, years of middling and negative reviews have done little to dent Eminem’s popularity. His last album, 2020’s Music to Be Murdered By, sold 4m copies globally, while Kamikaze was the biggest-selling hip-hop album of 2018 in the US. His greatest hits collection, Curtain Call, is the solitary hip-hop album to enjoy the UK chart ubiquity usually reserved for august artists such as Fleetwood Mac, Queen or Elton John: it has spent a staggering 620 weeks in the British album charts.
His ongoing success is rendered a little strange by the fact that he no longer seems to be a central figure in contemporary rap culture. The days when Eminem was discussed 159 times in the pages of the New York Times in one year – as apparently happened in 2002 – are long behind him, and however successful Houdini may be, it seems unlikely to prove as influential as his 2000 hit Stan, which gave the English language a new word for toxic die-hard fans. Hip-hop tends to move fast, constantly throwing up new stars and styles, and when it comes to generating controversy, Eminem has long since been outstripped by the behaviour of Kanye West.
Longstanding British hip-hop DJ Semtex calls Eminem “one of the rap gods”, but says he “didn’t pay attention” when Houdini was released, and was unsure even whether to play it on his weekly Capital Xtra show. “It doesn’t fit in with anything else, with either the UK or US sound. The kids are streaming Central Cee and Lil Baby right now.” Moreover, it’s “not creatively great. As a fan, I think: you could have done more, bro.”
He suggests Eminem’s audience aren’t the kind of mainstream hip-hop fans who hung on every insult thrown during the recent row between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, but rather “ageing Eminem stans” drawn in by Houdini’s familiarity, and the peculiar cosiness of its controversy-mongering. “Talking about Megan Thee Stallion looks like it’s controversial but it actually isn’t. Talk about Diddy being arrested; talk about Drake and Kendrick, if you want to go in on hip-hop. Macklemore’s onstage speech in Germany talking about Palestine and the Holocaust – that’s shock. I watched that and thought – wow, he took it there.”
There is undoubtedly some truth in what Semtex says but it can’t be the whole story. Last year, streams of Eminem’s 2004 single Mockingbird suddenly surged to over 1.5bn after it became a huge viral hit on TikTok, a platform far more popular with teenagers than anyone old enough to remember Eminem’s heyday first-hand.
Lee Thompson, of music industry website Record of the Day, suggests Eminem’s appeal “spans three generations”, and notes that the single has barely been playlisted on UK radio. “It’s another example of the attentive, younger-skewed streaming audience being way ahead of the disconnected old gatekeepers,” he says. “Eminem was absolutely huge with the 15-19 age bracket when he first emerged. They’re now in their early 40s, probably with a teenage kid or two living at home with them in 2024, and that influence will have rubbed off on them, no question.”
It’s an intriguing thought. There might be a generation for whom Slim Shady isn’t redolent of parent-scaring nihilism, but of their actual parents: of childhood journeys in the car soundtracked by Stan or My Name Is. And perhaps their parents weren’t mainstream hip-hop fans 20 years ago – just Eminem fans. In Anthony Bozza’s authoritative 2004 biography, Whatever You Say I Am, he identifies a moment when the rapper’s audience changed from sceptical Black crowds won over by his sheer talent, to fans who seemed more like punk or nu-metal devotees: pissed-off, opinionated and “predominantly white”. If Houdini seems at one remove from the rest of hip-hop, that’s somewhere Eminem has been for a very long time.
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Where is this article from?
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Eminem’s New Single Is Already The Longest-Running No. 1 Hit Of His Career
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Eminem dominated charts all around the world recently as his new single “Houdini” arrived. Now, the tune is entering its second frame on rankings everywhere, and it is proving to be a fairly sturdy hit–especially across the pond.
“Houdini” holds at No. 1 on the U.K. songs chart. The track debuted in first place on the list last time around, and now it’s earned a second stay on the throne.
According to the Official Charts Company, “Houdini” is now Eminem’s only hit to spend more than one week at No. 1. The rapper has earned a historically-high number of champions, but for decades, he’s been forced to watch all of his smashes be replaced immediately after rising to the peak.
Eminem has sent 11 singles to No. 1 in the U.K. throughout his years as a superstar. “Houdini” added an eleventh win to that tally, and it helped him make history.
With 11 No. 1 singles to his credit, Eminem is now tied for the fifth-most rulers ever among soloists. In the U.K., he’s on the same level as Calvin Harris, who racked up his 11 winners much faster than the hip-hop powerhouse.
Elvis Presley claims the most No. 1 hits among all acts in U.K. history, with 21. Cliff Richard and Ed Sheeran are matched with 14 champions. Madonna is just above Harris and Eminem, with 13 No. 1s.
“Houdini” is one of two Eminem hits that are present on the U.K. songs chart this week. “Without Me” rises one space from where it sat last frame, and it lands at No. 37. Last week, that smash returned thanks to all the attention paid to the latest offering from the rapper.
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what do you think about Houdini? was it the right single, right beat and right concept to bring slim shady era back?
to me, i find it very succesful and dope, but i still have a feeling that it could be better.
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what do you think about Houdini? was it the right single, right beat and right concept to bring slim shady era back?
to me, i find it very succesful and dope, but i still have a feeling that it could be better.
Variety is key, i don't think there's anything wrong with going the nostalgia route. His last couple albums all had that modern sound and started to sound repetitive, so it's cool he went back to his roots. One album like this should be fun. I don't think it's a change he's going to keep forever.
It is very hard to bring back a nostalgic sound yet still make it sound modern enough that today's fans are going to like it. I think he did about the best he could do with it given those circumstances.
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kinda weird there's still no release date been almost a month since single dropped
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kinda weird there's still no release date been almost a month since single dropped
it’s guna come in july and eminem usually doesn’t announce a date until the week of so that hype doesn’t die down after it’s announced
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It's got people interested, even random celebs -
You’ve become a fan of hip-hop in recent years. What draws you to it?
One of the most interesting things about the best hip-hop is that language isn’t just being used in a poetic sense. It’s also about the fun of the teeth being hit by the back of the tongue – the sound and the glory of speaking. Language is like a musical instrument with so much range, depth and scope. It can be a rapier, a sabre, or it can be a soft feather to tickle people with. It has so many possibilities.
Any top hip-hop tips for 2024?
[laughs] I’m no expert! I’m very much looking forward to Eminem’s farewell to Slim Shady, though. You know, that character that looked as if he’d dipped his head in some Domestos. - S Fry
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kinda weird there's still no release date been almost a month since single dropped
It’s coming relax champ
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It’s coming relax champ
your mental illlness actin up again
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0U5R1gx13M&t=1s
Eminem “Tobey”: Marshall presents teaser and the date of his 2nd single from upcoming album “The Death Of Slim Shady”.
New music 7/2, video 7/5
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7/12
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https://www.youtube.com/v/X0HIrS6kUYI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0HIrS6kUYI)
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https://www.youtube.com/v/X0HIrS6kUYI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0HIrS6kUYI)
Classic Eminem style. haha
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xn0OHEZZ8Q&t=228s
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Damn. Thats fire. Bars on bars on bars.
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Unscrabbling the Lyrics of Eminem’s “Tobey” Single: Full Breakdown of Punches
Having trouble figuring out Eminem’s, Sean’s, or Babytron’s lyrics? Here’s our complete guide on Tobey’s punchlines.
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[Chorus: BabyTron]
Tobey Maguire got bit by a spider, but see, me, it was a goat
Tobey Maguire is an American actor, best known for his portrayal of Spider-Man in Sam Raimi’s original Spider-Man trilogy and 2021’s Spider-Man: No Way Home.
Peter Parker (Spider-Man) has one of the most well-known superhero stories of all time, first established in film with 2002’s Spider-Man. There, Peter is bitten by a genetically modified spider which gives him his use of webs and other super powers such as climbing up the sides of buildings like a spider.
If you want space, I hope you take your helmet off soon as you get up to Venus and choke
To want space in terms of the rap-game means to wanna get recognized. But BabyTron refers to the space above us saying that rappers won’t have their place in the game. The best thing they can do is leave the game by dying on Venus, the 6th biggest planet in the Solar system.
My city Leia and I’m Obi-Wan, got a mission to pass, I just might be the hope
Princess Leia and Obi-Wan Kenobi are popular characters in the Star Wars Universe. In the first movie, A New Hope, Leia refers to Obi-Wan as her only hope, as her ship was attacked by the movie’s antagonist, Darth Vader.
In this line, BabyTron compares his city of Detroit to the princess and himself to Obi-Wan Kenobi, as he considers himself the city’s hope of saving it through his raps.
Tobey Maguire got bit by a spider, but see, me, it was a goat
Tobey Maguire is an American actor, best known for his portrayal of Spider-Man in Sam Raimi’s original Spider-Man trilogy and 2021’s Spider-Man: No Way Home.
Peter Parker (Spider-Man) has one of the most well-known superhero stories of all time, first established in film with 2002’s Spider-Man. There, Peter is bitten by a genetically modified spider which gives him his use of webs and other super powers such as climbing up the sides of buildings like a spider.
BabyTron flips this story by saying a goat bit him. The term “GOAT” is commonly used as an abbreviation for “greatest of all time,” establishing that the goat that bit him gave him the powers of the best rapper of all time.
He’s previously referenced Spider-Man’s story in his 2023 song “Spidey-Senses.”
My city Leia and I’m Obi-Wan, got a mission to pass, I just might be the hope
Princess Leia and Obi-Wan Kenobi are popular characters in the Star Wars Universe. In the first movie, A New Hope, Leia refers to Obi-Wan as her only hope, as her ship was attacked by the movie’s antagonist, Darth Vader.
In this line, BabyTron compares his city of Detroit to the princess and himself to Obi-Wan Kenobi, as he considers himself the city’s hope of saving it through his raps.
[Verse 1: BabyTron]
No español, I’m allergic to rojo and legally blind, all I’m seein’ is gold
D to the A, there and back, if we ride with the Drac’, can’t smoke from the T to the O
On the one hand, BabyTron says that rappers won’t have a chance to chill if he’s riding with Draco, semi-automatic pistol.
T to the O in that case means Tennessee and Ohio. Those are states between Michigan and Georgia. Up until last November recreational weed was illegal in Ohio, and it’s still illegal in Tennessee. Babytron doesn’t want to risk a gun charge by getting pulled over by the police for smoking weed.
On the other hand, the way BabyTron pronounces Drac’ is similar to Drake, Canadian rapper who was born in Toronto. T is the first letter, O is the last.
Road DSM on the beach, not a sand stand
DSM stands for “Dog Shit Militia” which is a rap group BabyTron is a member of.
[Verse 2: Big Sean]
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I was immersed in the Merce, I show ’em no mercy, I really was watchin’ the throne (For real)
This is wordplay on the song Mercy by Kanye West, off of the album Cruel Summer.
Going on with the Kanye West wordplay, Sean also references West’s 2011 collab album with Jay-Z, Watch The Throne.
If he Obi-Wan, then I gotta be Yoda
This is a callback to the chorus where Babytron referred to himself as Obi-wan Kenobi:
“My city Leia and I’m Obi-Wan”
Big Sean refers to himself as Yoda, another jedi and mentor figure from Star Wars.
Fuck your whole image, I’m with Cole Bennett
Cole Bennett is a music video director who worked with Eminem, Big Sean & BabyTron. He also made a music video for “Tobey”, which is set to be released on July 5th.
This song must’ve been on Lyrical Lemonade’s (Cole’s video production brand) album “All Is Yellow”, but due to a lack of time it was scrapped and put on Eminem’s album instead.
Bitch, I come from the D where they BMFing
The D is slang for Detroit. Big Sean has referenced Detroit as “the D” in many songs before like April 2012’s Mercy:
“I give her that D, ‘cause that’s where I was born and raised in”
BMFing is a reference to the Black Mafia Family (BMF), which is a drug trafficking and money laundering organization in the United States. It was founded in 1985, in Southwest Detroit by brothers Demetrius Edward “Big Meech” Flenory and Terry Lee “Southwest Tee” Flenory.
Where they movin’ them keys like a chord progression
This line refers to kilograms, as in kilos of drugs like cocaine. Chord Progressions are the fundaments of most music songs.
“Keys” is slang for kilogram, as in kilograms of drugs like narcotics or cocaine. Moving keys/kilos means selling a large volume of drugs.
Chord progression is a musical term that refers to a succession of chords.
keys is a double-entendre, referring to both kilos of drugs and keys on a piano, as your fingers move across different piano keys when playing a chord progression.
Fuck it, dog, I’ma go Wes Craven
Wes Craven was a film director credited for his chilling creative innovations in the horror genre. He brought to life some truly iconic fictional characters that have spawned film franchises of their own. For example, Craven directed 1977’s The Hills Have Eyes, 1984’s A Nightmare on Elm Street, and 1996’s Scream. All films that launched respective franchises and cult fanbases.
Big Sean uses Craven’s name as a verb here. We can only assume that he intends to become violent, scary or as depraved as the films that the late director made.
[Verse 3: Eminem]
Tobey Maguire got bit by a spider, me? Must’ve got bit by a goat (Yeah)
I used to dream as a kid I would grow (Baa)
To be one, I hope that I inspire hope (For what?)
Eminem’s purpose to inspire younger generations hasn’t changed. He wanted to be the grown GOAT for them (the baa adlib refers to a goat call) since him being kid — baby goat. Marshall was saying similar things a couple of times before on his earlier songs, such as “Sing for the Moment” in 2002:
“That’s why we sing for these kids who don’t have a thing
Except for a dream and a fuckin’ rap magazine (Ha-ha!)”
“The Monster” in 2013:
“But if one kid out of a hundred million
Who are goin’ through a struggle, feels it and relates, that’s great”
and “Fall” in 2018:
“Somewhere some kid is bumpin’ this while he lip-syncs in the mirror
That’s who I’m doin’ it for, the rest, I don’t really even care”
Spit fire, bitch, I was just flyin’ coach (Yeah)
Eminem has been spitting fire bars since 20th century. He was the coach for the big amount of rappers at that period.
Also, Supermarine Spitfire is a British single-seat figher aircraft, what completes the wordplay and fits into the next theme of being the only G.O.A.T.
Y’all thought you was sick, you were misdiagnosed (Nope)
In hip-hop, “sick” is slang for “really good”. Playing on the conventional meaning of “sick” as in “having an illness” or being unwell in some way, Eminem declares that other rappers might think they themselves are really good, but they’re just wrong.
PROPOSED SUGGESTION: It’s a double entendre.
I got so many stories, but I hate ceilings (Haha)
He hates ceilings as in, he hates limitations, and he is constantly surpassing them. He also cleverly plays with the word “stories,” implying both the many levels he has reached and the numerous experiences he has yet to share.
He also mentions the same in his song “Elevator”
Ain’t feelin’ your top five favorite rappers (Woo)
So I know they ’bout to be pissed at me (Why?)
Eminem has a history of mentioning rappers he dislikes on his songs, he often goes on to even diss some, most notably on his tenth studio album, Kamikaze, which was a response to critics and rappers who didn’t like his anterior album, Revival.
He often dissed rappers that are beloved by the community, like Tyler, The Creator on “Fall”, though he apologised to him later on “No Regrets”.
In this line he refers to the fact that he doesn’t care if a rapper is among your top five favorite rappers, if he doesn’t like them, he will not hold back, and he won’t hesitate to diss them, even if people are going to be angry at him for doing so.
This could also be a reference to one of the two featured artists on this song, BabyTron stating in an interview that Eminem is not in his top 5 detroit rappers.
How rappers I’ve already ripped could be (What?)
Higher up on a list than me (Ha)
This could be a reference to Jay-Z who is Number 1 on Billboard’s best rappers of all time list, while Eminem is number 5. Eminem was featured on Jay-Z’s song “Renegade” and it was universally agreed on that Eminem ate Jay on the song.
Get dissed though and by a pioneer
Who was one of the reasons why I am here
They tell me I should just let that shit go and slide (Why?)
“Melle Mel shouldn’t get no reply” (Why?)
“That man is a legend,” bitch, so am I (Haha, yeah)
In Eminem’s 2023 song “Realest,” he took a shot at Grandmaster Melle Mel of the The Furious Five, poking fun at his alleged steroid use:
“And I’ll be the last to toy with a juice head whose brain is like half destroyed
Like a meteor hit it well there went Melle Mel we lost his ass to roids (Damn)”
The namedrop was done in retaliation to Mel’s comments on Eminem as a rapper:
“If you were talking about rhyme style, okay he got a rhyme style. But he’s white. He’s white!””
The feud resulted in the release of Mel’s “Kickback” diss track in August, 2023. It recieved poor reception amongst hip-hop fans, leading Mel to share a public apology:
“Regrettably, my response fell short in its execution, and I accept full responsibility for the misjudgment.”
Middle finger stuck up, but I never conceded
Eminem is known for flipping people off because he doesn’t give a fuck, and often jokes about his middle finger being stuck in songs like Cum on Everybody and Role Model.
Cement my legacy, I definitely did controversy, I always said all I needed
Treat it like a truck, hit it head-on, I meet it (Krrk)
Eminem relates his approach to addressing controversy in a “head-on” way to a head-on collision accident.
Comparing his way of addressing controversies in confrontation and direct opposition (head-on problem solving), to the physical act of two cars colliding into the front of each other (head-on collision).
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Not really feeling the song or purpose - usually with the older version of Eminem (since the title and first single are all throwbacks) would have a weighty second single - whether it be like a Stan or a way I am or even guilty conscience- all great second tracks - this feels pointless - almost mixtape level - beats alright, hook too but it feels dated. I wonder where within his making of this album was made - so bored of Eminem how can I not be in your top 5 womp womp shit too. His quality of albums and releases are making it harder actually. I was hoping with Dre’s supposed involvement in this album that he would have something worthy of coming out but not it seems. The features seem pointless too past the connect. Having this as a second single worries me more than Houdini. Whilst I didn’t really like it it was okay and worked as a first single for its quick impact. Not really sure what this is. It’ll still do well cuz it’s Eminem but personally not a fan of this at all. Can’t see many like me this either tbh.
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The 2nd single is way better than 1st one. Especially the Em's verse. I hope the album doesn't have too many features.
The LP has 18 tracks 19 tracks.
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The 2nd single is way better than 1st one. Especially the Em's verse. I hope the album doesn't have too many features.
Deluxe Version of the LP has 18-tracks.
i guess normal version has 19 tracks. there will be 2 more bonus tracks for digital release.
but i believe deluxe version will have more songs.
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i guess normal version has 19 tracks. there will be 2 more bonus tracks for digital release.
but i believe deluxe version will have more songs.
Yeah, It's 19 tracks. Apple Music Pre-Add shows 19 tracks and the #20 has the music video for "Houdini".
Nice too see it's a LONG album (like all Em's albums), after 4 years to release this album.
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Need tracklist with features and production
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found on hiphopdx!
https://www.youtube.com/v/CanCZktm0TQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CanCZktm0TQ)
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I hope this black spot is not a final cover.
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I hope this black spot is not a final cover.
Obviously not. The album cover will be revealed when the album arrived.
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I hope this black spot is not a final cover.
:dead:
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I don't recall such a situaion with covers of preorders before.
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Album cover revealed on Em’s instagram.
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Cover sucks
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I don't like this cover too, let's see the music.
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I like the cover 🤷♂️
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Nice one. The tracklist leak occured not accurate.
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now i realised its Slim Shady laying in the body bag inside car truck.
what a fucking good promotion and marketing process...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EeUsaIcTck
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now i realised its Slim Shady laying in the body bag inside car truck.
what a fucking good promotion and marketing process...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EeUsaIcTck
excellent marketing
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Tracklist is out with production credits but it only has singer features listed, the rap features remain hidden
Only two Dre beats is disappointing from a production standpoint, but nice to see Fred Wreck and Dem Jointz on here.
Wonder who the rap features are! Surely Dre on Guilty Conscious 2.
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Tracklist is out with production credits but it only has singer features listed, the rap features remain hidden
Only two Dre beats is disappointing from a production standpoint, but nice to see Fred Wreck and Dem Jointz on here.
Wonder who the rap features are! Surely Dre on Guilty Conscious 2.
been told everyone .. dre not producing a full em project
it’s going to be another music to be murdered by
solid album.. some dope joints.. some ok joints..
those hopin for mmlp level em guna be greatly disappointed
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Tracklist is out with production credits but it only has singer features listed, the rap features remain hidden
Only two Dre beats is disappointing from a production standpoint, but nice to see Fred Wreck and Dem Jointz on here.
Wonder who the rap features are! Surely Dre on Guilty Conscious 2.
NO production credits revealed yet. what u saw is fake. just wait.
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Damn having a song called guilty conscience 2 is crazy. And exciting. I hope that shit lives up to its name, kinda like a bitch please 2 did.
I still wonder why they released Tobey as the second single. Shit is so average and sounds dated.
Still this should be exciting. An eminem album is always an event even if he aint released a dope album in forever. Looking forward to this! I hope Dre is decently involved at least! And whilst I don’t rate his team at all currently as long as he takes full lead/control, surely with his experience we should expect some fire between him and em. Something to look forward to!
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1. Renaissance
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
2. Habits (feat. White Gold)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
3. Trouble
Produced By Fredwreck & Dem Jointz
4. Brand New Dance
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
5. Evil
Produced By Don Cannon & CuBeatz
6. All You Got (Skit)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
7. Lucifer (feat. Thomas Cheval & Sly Pyper)
Produced By Dr. Dre
Contains a samples from the track Dries Holton & Hans van Hermet
8. Antichrist (feat. Bizarre)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
Contains a samples from song Susie Webb
9. Fuel
Produced By Mr. Porter
10. Road Rage (feat. Sly Pyper)
Produced By Dr. Dre, Dem Jointz, Brandon Thomas & DJ T Gray
11. Houdini
(Marshall Mathers, Steve Miller, Jeff Bass, Kevin Bell, Anne Dudley, Trevor Horn & Malcolm McLaren)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
Additonal Vocals By Steve Miller
Keyboards By Luis Resto
Mastered By Brian "Big Bass Gardne
Contains interpolations from multiple previous Eminem works and "Abracadabra", written by Jeff Bass, Anne Dudley, Steve Miller, Trevor Horn, Kevin Bell, and Malcolm McLaren, as performed by the Steve Miller Band.
12. Breaking News (Skit)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
13. Guilty Conscience 2
Produced Fredwreck & Dem Jointz
14. Head Honcho
Produced By Jameil Aossey
Co-Produced By S1
15. Temporary
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
16. Bad One (feat. White Gold)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
17. Tobey (feat. Big Sean & BabyTron)
(Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, Sean Anderson, James Johnson, Cole Bennett, Daniyel Weissmann, John Nocito, Carlton McDowell & Marvin Jordan)
Produced By Car!ton, Cole Bennett, Daniel, Eminem, John Nocito & Marvy Ayy
Additional Keyboards By Luis Resto
Additional Production By Eminem
Mastered By Brian "Big Bass" Gardner
Mixed By Mike Strange
18. Guess Who's Back
Produced By Eminem
19. Somebody Save Me (feat. D. Stevens)
Produced By Emile & Benny Blanco
Tracklist confirmed, production credits still rumored, but Em doing mostly of production certainly.
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NO production credits revealed yet. what u saw is fake. just wait.
Pretty sure the production credits (since posted below) I saw were accurate
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1. Renaissance
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
2. Habits (feat. White Gold)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
3. Trouble
Produced By Fredwreck & Dem Jointz
4. Brand New Dance
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
5. Evil
Produced By Don Cannon & CuBeatz
6. All You Got (Skit)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
7. Lucifer (feat. Thomas Cheval & Sly Pyper)
Produced By Dr. Dre
Contains a samples from the track Dries Holton & Hans van Hermet
8. Antichrist (feat. Bizarre)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
Contains a samples from song Susie Webb
9. Fuel
Produced By Mr. Porter
10. Road Rage (feat. Sly Pyper)
Produced By Dr. Dre, Dem Jointz, Brandon Thomas & DJ T Gray
11. Houdini
(Marshall Mathers, Steve Miller, Jeff Bass, Kevin Bell, Anne Dudley, Trevor Horn & Malcolm McLaren)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
Additonal Vocals By Steve Miller
Keyboards By Luis Resto
Mastered By Brian "Big Bass Gardne
Contains interpolations from multiple previous Eminem works and "Abracadabra", written by Jeff Bass, Anne Dudley, Steve Miller, Trevor Horn, Kevin Bell, and Malcolm McLaren, as performed by the Steve Miller Band.
12. Breaking News (Skit)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
13. Guilty Conscience 2
Produced Fredwreck & Dem Jointz
14. Head Honcho
Produced By Jameil Aossey
Co-Produced By S1
15. Temporary
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
16. Bad One (feat. White Gold)
Produced By Eminem & Luis Resto
17. Tobey (feat. Big Sean & BabyTron)
(Marshall Mathers, Luis Resto, Sean Anderson, James Johnson, Cole Bennett, Daniyel Weissmann, John Nocito, Carlton McDowell & Marvin Jordan)
Produced By Car!ton, Cole Bennett, Daniel, Eminem, John Nocito & Marvy Ayy
Additional Keyboards By Luis Resto
Additional Production By Eminem
Mastered By Brian "Big Bass" Gardner
Mixed By Mike Strange
18. Guess Who's Back
Produced By Eminem
19. Somebody Save Me (feat. D. Stevens)
Produced By Emile & Benny Blanco
Tracklist confirmed, production credits still rumored, but Em doing mostly of production certainly.
weak ass features .. 2 dre tracks.. was hopin that at least guilty conscience 2 would be done by dre…. eminem producing a lot, which worked wit mmlp n eminem show…
based on this and the singles we heard, i’ll be very surprised if this is any better than his last few efforts, which were all solid but not slim shady type stuff
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weak ass features .. 2 dre tracks.. was hopin that at least guilty conscience 2 would be done by dre…. eminem producing a lot, which worked wit mmlp n eminem show…
based on this and the singles we heard, i’ll be very surprised if this is any better than his last few efforts, which were all solid but not slim shady type stuff
As I said, the production credits are not official yet, and there may be more Dre productions in the Deluxe Edition, as there are on several Em albums, be patient!!!!
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This wut the game needs yall. It’s gon be dope. Prolly even more Dre shit, that gives me hopes for Detox
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I think that the Fredwreck & Dem Jointz tracks are also produced by Dre. A few weeks ago, Fredwreck posted on Instagram something like "produced by Dr. Dre & The ICU" concerning the Eminem album. Maybe the credits are incomplete or Dre is featured on the songs. The names of the features have been removed from the credits.
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I think that the Fredwreck & Dem Jointz tracks are also produced by Dre. A few weeks ago, Fredwreck posted on Instagram something like "produced by Dr. Dre & The ICU" concerning the Eminem album. Maybe the credits are incomplete or Dre is featured on the songs. The names of the features have been removed from the credits.
Probably, that's what I thought, like in Marsha's "CASABLANCA".
When you see Fredwreck, Dem Jointz, Erik "Blu2th" Griggs & Trevor Lawrence Jr. (The ICU) you will see Dre. I'm sure these credits are incomplete, there's a lot of musicians behind this. 8)
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Probably, that's what I thought, like in Marsha's "CASABLANCA".
When you see Fredwreck, Dem Jointz, Erik "Blu2th" Griggs & Trevor Lawrence Jr. (The ICU) you will see Dre. I'm sure these credits are incomplete, there's a lot of musicians behind this. 8)
going even further when you see Quentin Gilkey (Dre's engineer) i believe you're getting some Dre on the mix, even uncredited...
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I think that the Fredwreck & Dem Jointz tracks are also produced by Dre. A few weeks ago, Fredwreck posted on Instagram something like "produced by Dr. Dre & The ICU" concerning the Eminem album. Maybe the credits are incomplete or Dre is featured on the songs. The names of the features have been removed from the credits.
Dre is pretty generous w/ production credits for a long time, i believe if he's listed for mixing or spot his engineer credited on a song it's a sign he's had a hand (maybe substantial) in a record.
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Even if Dre aint credited he definetly produced those joints. Dont matter who’s on da credits, it’s definetly Dre
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Dre is pretty generous w/ production credits for a long time, i believe if he's listed for mixing or spot his engineer credited on a song it's a sign he's had a hand (maybe substantial) in a record.
yup
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To be fair this has been the case since at least Dogg Food
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Heil yeah. Yalla be smokin om dat scherm if u not think Dre doin mo prod. Heard da sampellz and it had Dre all over it. Dre day part 2, da second comin. Yall ain’t ready 4 dat
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Plus that features list ain't complete. Rap features are hidden. Dre gotta be on Guilty Conscious 2.
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Cant wait for Guilty Conscience 2. Im sure Doc Dre had his hand in this album, he was pretty excited on Jimmy Kimmel. Just a short time left before release!
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Lol
You are in for a surprise
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Its out but no info about features.
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Juz heard it. Anthem materiel. Guilty conciense has Dre prod all ova it. Most of da album sounds like Dre shit
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Really no features outside the single with big Sean and that kid and JID from Dreamville (who bodied and ate that track) Bizarre was descent on his feature from d12.
It’s what I thought it would be he really goes in Celebs like Diddy got it the worst mentions Keefe D and all… but the 4 or so Dre “produced” songs are coo Fred Wreck and Dem Jointz brought some dope shit but it still fell short slightly I mean it’s kinda like that murder music or whatever the first one it was descent
He rhymes his ass but the songs and “concept” wasn’t too creative
Made me appreciate Nas for some reason … Nas concepts and creativity on albums really show he has grown through out his career
Wish Ken kaniff narrated the album his skits are always hilarious since slim shady even on relapse … wish I listened to the common and Pete rock album first though … Dre hasn’t helped these albums get better yet i
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what i expected .. music to be murdered by part 2
great marketing .. album not living up to the slim shady stuff tho
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Any Dre features/production?
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Any Dre features/production?
No Dre feature, but two productions: "Lucifer" and "Road Rage". "Trouble" and "Guilty Conscience 2" prod. by Fredwreck & Dem Jointz.
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No Dre feature, but two productions: "Lucifer" and "Road Rage". "Trouble" and "Guilty Conscience 2" prod. by Fredwreck & Dem Jointz.
Yup but damn trouble should have been way longer the way it blends in to the next track and never comes back was sad …
Lucifer is dope as fuck
Bizarre is on Antichrist
2 chainz is on a bonus track on YouTube he bodied that shit
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No Dre feature, but two productions: "Lucifer" and "Road Rage". "Trouble" and "Guilty Conscience 2" prod. by Fredwreck & Dem Jointz.
How you know that?
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Album is fire.
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what i expected .. music to be murdered by part 2
great marketing .. album not living up to the slim shady stuff tho
The album is way better than Music to Be Murdered by from productions to how Eminem is rapping. Great balance between not being too technical and that old Shady flow, he hasn't sounded this good in years 8)
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How you know that?
Listened through the whole album and checked the credits on Spotify.
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First listen, way under my expectations.
a guiltiy conscience 2 without dr. dre is betraying to history.
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First listen, way under my expectations.
a guiltiy conscience 2 without dr. dre is betraying to history.
agreed on the guilty conscience part
and i didn’t really expect much so it’s about what i thought it would be
the singles were pretty telling
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First listen not bad, what I like the most are the productions, I like when Em make these type of beats.
I like Dre’s production on Lucifer, the following track Antichrist is another good production from Em.
Good album, I was expecting a bit more creativity/concept, like story telling.
Thought Guilty Conscience 2 will give me that but no (why not do it with Dre?)
Overall good album.
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Yalll be buggin. Dre clearly has his juice all over Em’s shit. Have patients. No clear track lit and creditz been posted. You can hear tha Dre mix here
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Sold album but they wasted that Trouble beat! That shit was fire to only last a minute
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^ word Iz they savin the rest of it fo Dre’s solo . Dre wanted it
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^ word Iz they savin the rest of it fo Dre’s solo . Dre wanted it
Yeah and for Snoop Missionary which according to Daz is coming this month ;D
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Yeah and for Snoop Missionary which according to Daz is coming this month ;D
lol. Quit hatin and be patient. Yall aint ready 4 Dre comin fo you.
Trust me, I have an inside source . Dre puttin togetha somethin the world aint nevva Heard befo, and he be mixin in 5:1 surround dolby shit. Its like a funk opera im space or sum shit. Dre day part 2 comin yall
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After 1st listen i think it’s solid album. Good production and concept. I’m not a big fan of Em but this is one pretty good. Will be on rotation for sure.
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Eminem: The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) album review — alter ego returns for another round of rapid-fire rap
The veteran provocateur’s 12th album has tight beats and wide-ranging targets
Eminem’s 12th album revisits his alter ego, Slim Shady
In the 27 years since Eminem’s psychotic alter ego Slim Shady first appeared, he has undergone several violent deaths. The 2004 album Encore ended with Shady slaughtering a theatre filled with Eminem fans before turning the gun on himself. But the doppelgänger was back a year later, tormenting Eminem on the song “When I’m Gone”. “Die Shady!” the Detroit rapper cried on that occasion as he shot himself in the head. But again Shady survived. In a plot twist worthy of a fifth-grade exercise in creative writing, it was all a dream.
Like a homicidal maniac in a profitable horror-movie franchise, Shady always returns. The result has been a bad case of sequelitis, the hip-hop equivalent of Halloween’s 13 films. Eminem was untouchable between 1999 and 2002 when he released The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show. But the rest of his albums, excepting 2013’s The Marshall Mathers LP 2, are mediocre or outright turkeys. Although the rapper’s verbal dexterity remains supreme — his 2014 song “Rap God” set a record for most words in a song, 1,560 in total — his storytelling has lost its edge.
The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) is his 12th studio album. It arrives with a funerary fanfare for Eminem’s evil twin. In an echo of the obituary that the New York Times published after Agatha Christie killed off Hercule Poirot, the Detroit Free Press has eulogised Shady in a faux-death notice claiming he met “a sudden and horrific end”. Is this really it for the old monster? We settle into our seats for the latest lengthy instalment — 19 tracks lasting more than an hour — with unbated breath and a supersize tub of stale popcorn.
Opening track “Renaissance” finds Eminem carping at rap fans for being too critical. Strain your ears and you might hear the world’s tiniest violin in the mix. But then the album perks up. In “Habits”, Shady abducts his maker and embarks on a rapid-fire offence-fest. “A lyricist here to voice his true sentiments,” he raps, mockingly adopting the language of affirmation. Targets in this and subsequent songs include women, pronouns, disability, the overweight and dwarfism. Eminem struggles to wrest the microphone from Shady. “You gonna cancel me, yeah? Gen Z me, bruh?” the unhinged alter ego taunts him in response on “Trouble”.
Eminem, 51 going on 15, is a veteran provocateur. He sounds it on “Brand New Dance”, a pointlessly exhumed relic from the 2000s in which he has tired fun at the expense of disabled Superman actor Christopher Reeve. But he is sprightlier elsewhere. Having once wanted to be a comic-book artist, he raps with cartoonish energy, closer in spirit to South Park than Marvel superheroes. The Shady persona turns his edgelordery into role play. “You created me to say everything you didn’t have the balls to say,” Shady needles him in “Guilty Conscience 2”, a highlight in which rapper and alter ego battle rap each other.
The flow of words is dazzling. One rapping mode is a stop-start motion, almost a stutter, as though on the verge of blurting out something unsayable. He switches accent, timbre, pace and intensity with Olympian skill. Interjections are scattered throughout the verses, as though anticipating the reaction they’re meant to cause. The beats are somewhat tighter than usual. “Evil” has a gothic singsong feel. “Lucifer”, which reunites him with old foil Dr Dre as producer, makes ingenious use of a sample from a kitsch song by 1970s Dutch duo Mouth and MacNeal.
The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) is one of the better albums since his heyday. But it suffers from inconsistency and lack of narrative. “Temporary” is a maudlin ballad addressed to his daughter Hailie Jade, now an adult but treated in the song as though she were a toddler. A straight-faced Eminem raps about his own death, not Slim Shady’s. The latter’s demise is supposedly the album’s theme, but it disappears from view. As there aren’t any cliffhangers, this isn’t a spoiler: the franchise is bound to go on.
★★★☆☆
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^ word Iz they savin the rest of it fo Dre’s solo . Dre wanted it
Yeah that’s like me going to the record store summer of 1998 looking for King T’s Aftermath album or Dre and Cube Heltah Skeltah album before that ;D or how about Snoop and Dre Make Up to Breakups album, Detox, Rakim…. I’ll stop there
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Yeah that’s like me going to the record store summer of 1998 looking for King T’s Aftermath album or Dre and Cube Heltah Skeltah album before that ;D or how about Snoop and Dre Make Up to Breakups album, Detox, Rakim…. I’ll stop there
all dem Joints dre dropped 4 a reason though. Shit wasn’t dope. But the shit he be cookin up in da llab now, yall about 2 get ya minds blowned. U got it wrong my G. Dre knows his shit is too hot 4 most of you average listeners, dats why he waitz until the world gon be ready.
All i can say about the new Dre shit at dis time is. He be keepin the FUNK alive, while developed new sonic shit datz nevva been heared
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The album is way better than Music to Be Murdered by from productions to how Eminem is rapping. Great balance between not being too technical and that old Shady flow, he hasn't sounded this good in years 8)
Agreed. He sounds hungry again and not too technical which is great for his 12th album. Some good shit on here.
The only disappointment for me was Dre not being on Guilty Conscience 2…
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He dissed the shit out diddy.
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Dre's Lucifer instrumental is dope, rest of the album is a skip for me.
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Dre's role on MTBMB was better (bigger involvement and better beats), but the album overall is definitely Em's best since 09
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DJ Premier
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^ Yup. Original version had a up n comin Detroit rappa named Scotch Earth on there… Slim didn’t want 2 release da Joint, but Dre chopped the shit up inn studio and mixed it to fiyah. 2 Chaimz wuz added lateah
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Dre's Lucifer instrumental is dope, rest of the album is a skip for me.
pretty much. Lucifer is very nice, should have been a single. maybe they'll drop that next...
not feeling Road Rage, it's got more of that Dem Jointz sort of thing...
there's another Bad One' where's he's shouting out Dre at the start (no credit)?? this track is dope too.
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Read what i sed about da creditz
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Good concept album from Em. I like it. 8)
Dre only did 2 joints of the album "Lucifer" produced with Callus & Eminem and "Road Rage" prod. w/ Dem Jointz & Eminem, let's see if he's producer any of the bonus tracks.
PRODUCTION CREDITS HERE:
https://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php/topic,343236.msg3190388.html
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Smazing album. He really delivered. Production is amazing. I guess they use ai now.
But boy, he shits on diddy real hard. No homo.
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Good concept album from Em. I like it. 8)
Dre only did 2 joints of the album "Lucifer" produced with Callus & Eminem and "Road Rage" prod. w/ Dem Jointz & Eminem, let's see if he's producer any of the bonus tracks.
PRODUCTION CREDITS HERE:
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All songz is mixd by Dre, or he had hiz input on em. Anyone who really knowz, 1 uv da Mobstaz in Dre’s qlique Iz Dawg Ono, a triple OGg. He from my block and Ive been known homy fo yearz . Gave me da scoop. Slim be tellin hiz peoplez dat fiz May Bee hiz last lp so he /Em made sho Da Good Dock blezzed da Joint wiff hiz sprinklingz
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All songz is mixd by Dre, or he had hiz input on em. Anyone who really knowz, 1 uv da Mobstaz in Dre’s qlique Iz Dawg Ono, a triple OGg. He from my block and Ive been known homy fo yearz . Gave me da scoop. Slim be tellin hiz peoplez dat fiz May Bee hiz last lp so he /Em made sho Da Good Dock blezzed da Joint wiff hiz sprinklingz
You smoke crack? :dirty:
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According to the booklet, Dre only mixed his productions plus „Houdini“.
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According to the booklet, Dre only mixed his productions plus „Houdini“.
According to the BOOKLET Dre mixed three songs on the album. "Lucifer" and "Road Rage" the two produced by him and "Houdini".
There are a lot of people saying what they don't know about the productions, try to find out more before making "speculations".
Actual real production credits are in the usual place at this forum.
Digital Booklet for who wants:
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TDOSS Bonus Tracks
20. Kyrie & Luka (feat. 2 Chainz) (Produced By DJ Premier)
21. 21 Like My Shit (Produced By d.a. got that dope)
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This is the Eminem I fux with. Album is a 8-10 for me! I hope he stays like this...
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Nah, Yalla be buggin. They f d up on da creditz doigh, cus Dre did his thang on it. Listen 4 yoself. Its all about Dre
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I thought the album was a solid 7.5, Some clever wordplay as always and his tone on the mic sounded better than it has in a while in my opinion. The best song for me on the album was Lucifer, this was Dre's best production in a while and shows he can still make songs using his old style of production which lets be honest everybody prefers. Too many filler songs on the album though for me, and not having Dre be part of Guilty Conscience is a crime against hip hop
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I remember first time i listened to Music To Be Murderd By album. Lots of songs were in repeat for few weeks for me. This one didnt feel me same.
This album is like emimem got some leftovers from his previous albums in last 20 years from encore to Mtbmb, took them mixed and re-produced them. Then he make 2 or 3 new songs like fuel, temporary, somebody save me for charts and radios.
For example GC 2 is fucking genius but its not a song that you will want to put to a playlist or listen to a few weeks later.
2 dr. Dre songs are ICU shit. Not even icu shit, dem jointz shit. You can listen to a dozen of these in K.a.a.n.'s albums.
Album has full of old type (pre enore amd post encore) eminem productions and all of them are fillers. Not bad, good but nothing special.
However i got bored of eminem is keep talking same stuff. A new halie song?? Come on man!
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Eminem - The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) (2024) | Review
Eminem’s 2024 album The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) marks a strong return to form for the rap icon. After years of mixed reception and a notably low point with 2017’s Revival, Em has managed to recapture the magic that made his iconic trifecta – The Slim Shady LP (1999), The Marshall Mathers LP (2000), and The Eminem Show (2002) – so legendary.
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This concept album revolves around the struggle between Eminem and his alter-ego Slim Shady, with the latter aiming for cancellation and control. Em taps into his outrageous roots, aiming at various groups and societal issues without coming across as trying too hard or being overly corny. The interactions between Eminem and Slim Shady add depth and engagement to the record.
Lyrically, Eminem is on point. His wordplay, flow, and delivery are top-notch throughout most of the album. He even addresses his critics head-on, calling out the tendency to nitpick and hate on great artists:
Now let’s travel inside the mind of a hater
‘Cause I don’t see no fans, all I see’s a bunch of complainers
“Kendrick’s album was cool, but it didn’t have any bangers
Wayne’s album or Ye’s, couldn’t tell you which one was lamer
Joyner’s album was corny, Shady’s new s*** is way worse
Everything is either too tame or there’s too much anger
I didn’t like the beat, so I hated Might Delete Later”
You nerdy pricks would find somethin’ wrong with 36 Chambers
It’s what they do to the greats
Pick apart a Picasso and make excuses to hate
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Production-wise, the album benefits from Dr. Dre’s involvement, bringing a welcome return to their collaborative sound. While some beats could be stronger, overall, the production complements Eminem’s style well. The features are a mixed bag, but thankfully, there are no questionable Ed Sheeran-like pop collaborations this time around.
Standout tracks like “Temporary” and “Somebody Save Me” add emotional depth, contrasting nicely with more aggressive cuts like “Habits,” “Lucifer,” and “Antichrist.” The album’s strength lies in its overall songwriting, concept, and the interplay between Eminem and Slim Shady. The Death of Slim Shady isn’t without flaws. Some topics are repetitive, and the AI-assisted “young Shady” vocal effect can be hit-or-miss. However, when it works, it adds an interesting layer to the concept. Highlights include the clever flip on “Guilty Conscience,” JID’s stellar verse on “Fuel,” and Skylar Grey’s performance on “Temporary.”
The Death of Slim Shady sees Eminem wrestling with his past persona in an entertaining back-and-forth. He uses Slim Shady to aim at various targets, from Gen-Z to cancel culture to specific public figures, while attempting to play the rational personality himself. This framing device works well, even if it could be seen as a scapegoat for the juvenile and edgier content. While not a blazing return to glory, the album is filled with light-hearted and funny moments lacking in Eminem’s recent work. There are a few missed opportunities and some regression to pop elements towards the end, but the album is largely consistent.
For open-minded listeners and long-time fans, The Death of Slim Shady is a solid addition to Eminem’s discography. It may not reach the heights of his early classics, but it’s a fun, self-aware reflection on his legacy that proves Em can still entertain and provoke. This album won’t convert die-hard Eminem haters, but for those willing to give it a chance, it’s a return to form that showcases his enduring skills as a rapper and storyteller. While not perfect, The Death of Slim Shady is Eminem’s most consistent and thematically cohesive effort since the underappreciated Relapse (2009), proving that the recent hate he’s received is largely undeserved.
7/10
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Too many filler songs on the album though for me, and not having Dre be part of Guilty Conscience is a crime against hip hop
I cant believe they forgot about Dre!
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Eminem’s place in the hip-hop community has been a hot topic since his first shot out of the gate as he had, and continues to have, a polarizing effect on hip-hop listeners. Back in 2000, his music and image created a surge in blonde hair dye jobs in suburban White boys, from the preppy Abercrombie stock to the music-loving stoner intellects. Some urban-dressing White hip-hop fans would immediately disassociate themselves from Eminem and his music, most likely for fear of ridicule via comparison to both. For Black hip-hop fans, the effect was much more divisive. Some, like me, viewed the lyrical skills as all that mattered. Others viewed him as an intruder in a Black art form who only appeals to White people. The part concerning appeal rings somewhat true as I’ve heard Eminem quoted by White people I knew who to not even like hip-hop: From a middle-aged White co-worker of mine from that time who’d oft-times randomly quote some of Em’s most disturbing lines to my high school guidance counselor who I once witnessed gain control of a group of unruly students by shouting “Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?!”.
His breakthrough debut album, “The Slim Shady LP”, was a tongue-twisting rhymed discourse of self-deprecation and pop culture barbs via the introduction of his Slim Shady persona. However, the over-the-top cartoonish violence of Slim Shady caused many to miss the point of his satire. Eleven albums and twenty-five years later, we arrive at the character’s end with “The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce)”. It’s evident that his pen game remains sharp, but the aforementioned polarization causes Eminem to also remain as an acquired taste even now: You either like him or you don’t. But, with this album, the Slim Shady persona is in full effect for apparently one last time, taking his customary bitingly humorous aim at celebrities, the mass media, and society’s hypocrisy.
The opening track, “Renaissance” begins with the sound a grave being spat upon and, given Em’s penchant for references, it wouldn’t be surprising if that was a nod to the “Hawk Tuah” girl. Lyrically, he briefly does an inverse of the concept he began on “Stan” and explores the minds of obsessed haters. He attacks the current climate of political correctness on “Habits” and there are several skits showing the dichotomy of the Slim Shady and Eminem halves of his nature while taking shots at cancel culture. “Brand New Dance” sounds reminiscent of 2002’s “Square Dance” may have been left on the cutting room floor Em’s album from that year. The purpose of “Evil” is to spark controversy and appropriately leads into “Lucifer”, which is the only song with Dr. Dre’s hand in the production. As for the beats, the tracklist mostly has Em and Luis Resto credited with multiple producers assigned to tracks, including Emile, FredWreck, Dem Jointz, and Mr. Porter to name a few. “Antichrist” has a playful beat and shows Em’s mastery of wordplay, homophones, and flow, particularly on the third verse.
While Em has been shown to hold down an album on his known, he’s not above collaborations with older and newer school rappers. “Fuel” sees him sharing the mic with Atlanta emcee J.I.D. over Mr. Porter’s head-nodding 808 beat. “Road Rage” brings more sarcastic mockery of woke culture and Em’s last verse parodies the flow, cadence, and beat of Juvenile’s 1999 hit “Ha”. “Guilty Conscience 2” is a sequel to the original from his 1999 debut and is reworked into a rhymed debate between Slim Shady and Eminem. The production is interesting here as it takes a darker turn with moody bass and piano keys and therefore, the right soundscape for Eminem to essentially roast himself. Shady Records signee EZ Mil provides the assist on “Head Honcho”, but things become serious on “Temporary”, with Skylar Grey on the hook. Similar to Michael Keaton’s “My Life”, Eminem temporarily sheds Slim Shady and provides a heartfelt message to his daughters for after he’s gone. It’s the kind of track that’s bound to resonate with girl-dads. The album’s lead self-produced single “Houdini” is Slim Shady at his apex. From a Steve Miller Band sample to a music video that parodies himself, superhero movies and other aspects of pop culture, Em shows the last trick of his infamous persona.
“Bad One” has a certain bounce to it while the second single, the Spider-Man inspired “Tobey”, sees Em giving a mentor shine to fellow Michigan emcees Big Sean and BabyTron. Closing out the album is “Somebody Save Me”, which ties back to “Temporary”. Crooner Jelly Roll helms the chorus as Em lyrically laments the negative effects of Slim Shady on himself and his family. While “The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce)” is his most consistent album since 2013’s “The Marshall Mathers LP 2”, neither are *great* albums (the last Eminem album that deserves that honor is 2010’s “Recovery”). The point of this album can be summarized in a tongue-in-cheek line that Em spat earlier in his career, “So if I hurt your self-esteem and you get dissed too bad / You know I just be sayin’ that to get you mad.” Given the hyper-sensitive, easily-offended nature of today’s modern society, the joke inherent in this album is on them.
Overall Score 7
Music 6.5
Lyrics 7.5
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Full List of Public Figures That Eminem Has Mentioned or Dissed on “The Death of Slim Shady”
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Dr Dre shares unbelievable video of Eminem’s skills to prove no rapper could beat him
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Dr Dre - ''Marshall Mathers vs Who???!!''
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dam Slim killd candance ovens careeer whiff da dizz. Slim BEEN knowing Mo bout da black (*our) struggle than dat bitz. Dre said he now Slim be grovis up almos black cuz he black on da inzide (no matta what da haterz say), FUCK candence ovens fo tellin black people to better themselvez and take rrsponsebility fo dey actions cuz its da WHITe man (not Slim doiugh) that Bee holdin uzdown
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this album would of been a lot better served as 11-13 songs, its way to long and spread out and to be honest gets boring at the back end of the album
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rolling stone obliterated this shit LOL
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/eminems-the-death-of-slim-shady-coup-de-grace-review-1235060317/
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rolling stone obliterated this shit LOL
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/eminems-the-death-of-slim-shady-coup-de-grace-review-1235060317/
Meh…such a lazy, half assed review. I’ve heard all this before. Another reviewer who barely spends any time covering the songs on the album. Instead the entire crux of the argument is that Eminem's career has outlived its relevance. Seems more ideologically motivated than an earnest attempt to review the album.
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There are a lot of lazy snd trolling lyrics on this album. I cant believe the amount of times he mentioned Christopher Reeves; you gotta be at least 40 to know who your parent’s favourite actor super hero is. Never mind know the back story. Seems like he regurgitated a lot of old trolling.
I dont know if this album is meant to be offensive or just offensive that Eminem repeated his same schtick from 25 years ago and is charging $ for it. Smh.
Best songs are Road Rage and Lucifer in my opinion. The obesity problem and 3 XL, being a small size, is real in America.
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Anyone have the bonus tracks in 320?
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Only track i dont fuck with is ez mill track. Rest is fire. Album off the year. Crazy word play, lyricsm and the best. If you a rapper studdy this album. Slim is back, marshall is dead.
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Meh, it's aight. I still love his style and flow, but too many mellow songs and guests for me.
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Meh, it's aight. I still love his style and flow, but too many mellow songs and guests for me.
Exactly - Temporary doesn’t fit the album imo.
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Renaissance sounds very similar to "when the music stops", "one day at a time" and "rabbit run".
trouble sounds like a relapse leftover. if you listen to "the warning" and "taking my balls" you will get what i mean.
evil, very similar beat to "evil twinz", even the song title is similar :D and chorus is almost same with "brainless".
antichrist, same melody and same chorus with canibitch song, beat sounds very same with "leave dat boy alone" and "6 in the morning" by d12.
guilty conscience 2 is same beat with trouble song from same album, they just updated it with few touches.
temporary is revival, bad one is mtbmb and somebody save me is recovery.
this is why i didnt like the album because whatever u listen to makes u feel like i've heard it before. also, most of these songs are fillers, no bangers or hits.
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Renaissance sounds very similar to "when the music stops", "one day at a time" and "rabbit run".
trouble sounds like a relapse leftover. if you listen to "the warning" and "taking my balls" you will get what i mean.
evil, very similar beat to "evil twinz", even the song title is similar :D and chorus is almost same with "brainless".
antichrist, same melody and same chorus with canibitch song, beat sounds very same with "leave dat boy alone" and "6 in the morning" by d12.
guilty conscience 2 is same beat with trouble song from same album, they just updated it with few touches.
temporary is revival, bad one is mtbmb and somebody save me is recovery.
this is why i didnt like the album because whatever u listen to makes u feel like i've heard it before. also, most of these songs are fillers, no bangers or hits.
brainless is better than any song on this album
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GC2 and Lucifer are definitely better
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I hate to say it, but this album is just plain bad in my opinion. Sure, there are some interesting concepts and Em’s voice and flow are nicer than the last few albums, but overall this isn’t a good product, especially when compared to Common and Pete or what LL has coming out soon.
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the album sounds like 2003-2009 eminem era, mostly encore, a little bit relapse and recovery.
i dont think that kind of era is a good choice to farewell to slim shady. especially when "encore" is expected as eminem's worst album.
There should be some vibes from first 3 album run with new flavour (like habits song)
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the album sounds like 2003-2009 eminem era, mostly encore, a little bit relapse and recovery.
i dont think that kind of era is a good choice to farewell to slim shady. especially when "encore" is expected as eminem's worst album.
There should be some vibes from first 3 album run with new flavour (like habits song)
i wish it was 03-09
this is more like 2010-2020 eminem trying to mimic 2000-2010 eminem
encore is a classic compared to this one
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Crazy wordplays, rhymes schemes, punchlines, great concept. 4.8 outa 5. If you rap studdy this amazing work. Dude rhymed marshall and not cool :o.
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Haven't listened to this album since shortly after release date. Nothing really on it for me. Best song was Lucifer. I know people keep saying he is a great lyricist, but to me he is so childish and corny that it takes away from his flows. He is technically nice, but too corny for me.
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Haven't listened to this album since shortly after release date. Nothing really on it for me. Best song was Lucifer. I know people keep saying he is a great lyricist, but to me he is so childish and corny that it takes away from his flows. He is technically nice, but too corny for me.
I've only heard Houdini and the track with Big Sean and BabyTron, neither of which I'm particularly big on. Waiting for the album to drop on CD which I think is coming in September, unusual for Eminem as he has always released hard copy straight away. Plus hopefully it's the deluxe version so I don't have to buy it twice.
I'm not overly desperate to hear it anyway and it's gotten mixed reviews on here and elsewhere.
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https://www.youtube.com/v/Vwa0HenQMi4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwa0HenQMi4)
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to me thiss album better than encore, mmlp2, revival (weed plate)
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to me thiss album better than encore, mmlp2, revival (weed plate)
no way better than encore or mmlp
revival for sure .. and recovery
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New edition comin out on friday!
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https://www.youtube.com/v/u3RlUC-8yXo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3RlUC-8yXo)
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New edition comin out on friday!
4 new tracks on EMs youtube!
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4 new tracks on EMs youtube!
1 skit, 2 songs already released with the pre-order and one Shady Remix, bit disappointing :(
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(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab67616d0000b273333c01a0f55915549caf5623)
The 4 Bonus tracks of "The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce): Expanded Mourner’s Edition" in Lossless:
20. Steve Berman (Skit) (Produced By Eminem & Paul Rosenberg)
21. Fuel (Shady Edition) [feat. Westside Boogie & Grip] (Produced By Mr. Porter & Co-Produced By Eminem)
22. Like My Shit (Produced By D.A. Got Da Dope)
23. Kyrie & Luka (Produced By DJ Premier)
https://fastupload.io/9baa154b2814c563
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1 skit, 2 songs already released with the pre-order and one Shady Remix, bit disappointing :(
The 2 Bonus tracks previously released with pre-order aren't in Lossless.
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That is the worst Primo beat I've ever heard. Their first collaboration and that is what they deliver. Doesn't even sound like a Primo beat. What a massive disappointment.
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That is the worst Primo beat I've ever heard. Their first collaboration and that is what they deliver. Doesn't even sound like a Primo beat. What a massive disappointment.
Its not bad, I hear the Primo elements, although it sounds like something from 1988
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I agree. This is the worst Primo beat in years. I expected much more from a beat that came from him and was offered to Eminem. What a shame.
And generally the Eminem's Bonus Tracks are really good. :-\
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finally checkn this!
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2 Chains got Em on that Luka and Kyrie joint
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not bad, but i liked his previous better!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaK9Wi5ho0o
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=JiLrdmEmd8M?si=wxXNjQIc_gkEIXo_
Guilty conscience 2 over original beat
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I agree. This is the worst Primo beat in years. I expected much more from a beat that came from him and was offered to Eminem. What a shame.
And generally the Eminem's Bonus Tracks are really good. :-\
Wayyy overpriced produced you can tell they truly replayed and took away what premium put forward. I could tell like even on Compton the way Dre did Primo on his joint they still tried to keep it close to what Premo did but it isn’t the same thing
It’s the same with Dre and his “perfection” bullshit if it’s dope it’s dope doesn’t matter if it’s mastered or a certain quality cuz look at 36 chambers it’s dope the way it is … and it has no mixing quality or consistency across the songs and it’s a classic ..